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Re: Ukraine to Philly #ukraine

Henry Carrey/San Francisco/IBM <hcarrey@...>
 

The Yiddish name for Gladstone is probably Gladstein or most likely
Glatshtein as in the famous Yiddish writer/poet..

Henry Carrey
>Personal Address Deleted<
San Francisco,CA.

Subject: Ukraine to Philly
My big mystery is a large family of GLADSTONEs (the English translation of
something), the maiden name of my ggm (Todres BROTT married Chanah
GLADSTONE). The GLADSTONEs also lived in the same general area,
particularly
in Chartorysk, but I have found no one researching this particular family.
One distant cousin in Canada is a descendent by marriage of a branch of
KOLODNYs who married into one branch of the descendents of one Gladstone
sister of my ggm but that is my only source of information and she doesn't
know much. Many of this branch did not immigrate and did not survive the
Holocaust I'd love to know anything at all about the Ukranian
GLADSTONEs near Stepan, because I know almost nothing about my ggm's
origins.

I hope that this Sig can eventually pool its resources to extract archival
data for various areas in the Ukraine.

Jo Schwartz
Philadelphia

MODERATOR NOTE: That is one of the main goals of this SIG.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ukraine to Philly #ukraine

Henry Carrey/San Francisco/IBM <hcarrey@...>
 

The Yiddish name for Gladstone is probably Gladstein or most likely
Glatshtein as in the famous Yiddish writer/poet..

Henry Carrey
>Personal Address Deleted<
San Francisco,CA.

Subject: Ukraine to Philly
My big mystery is a large family of GLADSTONEs (the English translation of
something), the maiden name of my ggm (Todres BROTT married Chanah
GLADSTONE). The GLADSTONEs also lived in the same general area,
particularly
in Chartorysk, but I have found no one researching this particular family.
One distant cousin in Canada is a descendent by marriage of a branch of
KOLODNYs who married into one branch of the descendents of one Gladstone
sister of my ggm but that is my only source of information and she doesn't
know much. Many of this branch did not immigrate and did not survive the
Holocaust I'd love to know anything at all about the Ukranian
GLADSTONEs near Stepan, because I know almost nothing about my ggm's
origins.

I hope that this Sig can eventually pool its resources to extract archival
data for various areas in the Ukraine.

Jo Schwartz
Philadelphia

MODERATOR NOTE: That is one of the main goals of this SIG.
---


Re: ukraine to philly #ukraine

Carol Raspler
 

Many of us of the Ukraine-(particularly Kiyev)-to-Philadelphia have wondered if anyone has
researched a specific reason for this route.
It's been suggested that once a Jew settled, successfully, in any given area, others >from his
town/region followed. This seems too simple.
Philadelphians: anything?? Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL

Searching: HANAPOLSKY, GANAPOLSKY, ANAPOLSKY, CHANIURES, Belaya Tserkov/Philadelphia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine to philly #ukraine

Carol Raspler
 

Many of us of the Ukraine-(particularly Kiyev)-to-Philadelphia have wondered if anyone has
researched a specific reason for this route.
It's been suggested that once a Jew settled, successfully, in any given area, others >from his
town/region followed. This seems too simple.
Philadelphians: anything?? Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL

Searching: HANAPOLSKY, GANAPOLSKY, ANAPOLSKY, CHANIURES, Belaya Tserkov/Philadelphia


All Ukraine data base? #ukraine

Margy & Burton Rockoff <MARBURT@...>
 

Are you set up to receive data to put into your All Ukraine Database? I
have some documents that I received >from the Odessa Archives regarding
WOLINSKY family. Do you want them submitted now? Where?

Margy Rockoff
MARBURT@...

searching: WOLINSKY, BERKOWITZ (possibly >from Rogovitz), ZLATAPOLSKY OR
SLATAPOLSKY (possibly >from Yelisavetograd or Kirovohrad).

MODERATOR NOTE: If anyone has data they believe is relevant to the interests of the Ukraine SIG, it can be sent to Ada Glustein at adag@... for approval.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine All Ukraine data base? #ukraine

Margy & Burton Rockoff <MARBURT@...>
 

Are you set up to receive data to put into your All Ukraine Database? I
have some documents that I received >from the Odessa Archives regarding
WOLINSKY family. Do you want them submitted now? Where?

Margy Rockoff
MARBURT@...

searching: WOLINSKY, BERKOWITZ (possibly >from Rogovitz), ZLATAPOLSKY OR
SLATAPOLSKY (possibly >from Yelisavetograd or Kirovohrad).

MODERATOR NOTE: If anyone has data they believe is relevant to the interests of the Ukraine SIG, it can be sent to Ada Glustein at adag@... for approval.


Re: port of Philadelphia #ukraine

Ilene Murray <ilenemurray@...>
 

Hello to everyone,
Like just about everyone else, I am delighted that we finally have an
all-Ukraine SIG. In response to the many items about Philadelphia, there
are a few other things to consider. First, ticket prices. >from what I
have read, it may have been cheaper for our ancestors to come to the US
via an intermediate stop, like Hamburg-Liverpool (just as it is often
cheaper for us to fly via a hub city) and then on to the US. Many of the
Hamburg-Liverpool ships came into the port of Philadelphia. (Just a
reminder to everyone to use the Hamburg Emigration Lists when you are
looking for people. You never know if folks came in that way.) Once in
Philadelphia, many of the immigrants were helped by HIAS (Hebrew
Immigrant Aid Society). Their records have been microfilmed by the
Mormons and are easy to use. Once in Philadelphia, some chose to stay
because there was a strong Jewish community there, and others took a
train to NY or elsewhere. The HIAS records often indicate the final
destination of people who were assisted and who came to get them or paid
for their tickets elsewhere.
Ilene Murray
St. Louis, MO
Researching: WEISBERG in Machnovka (nr. Berdichev)
BOCHES in Pikov (nr. Vinnetsa)
KANFER in Horochov (Volynhia)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re:port of Philadelphia #ukraine

Ilene Murray <ilenemurray@...>
 

Hello to everyone,
Like just about everyone else, I am delighted that we finally have an
all-Ukraine SIG. In response to the many items about Philadelphia, there
are a few other things to consider. First, ticket prices. >from what I
have read, it may have been cheaper for our ancestors to come to the US
via an intermediate stop, like Hamburg-Liverpool (just as it is often
cheaper for us to fly via a hub city) and then on to the US. Many of the
Hamburg-Liverpool ships came into the port of Philadelphia. (Just a
reminder to everyone to use the Hamburg Emigration Lists when you are
looking for people. You never know if folks came in that way.) Once in
Philadelphia, many of the immigrants were helped by HIAS (Hebrew
Immigrant Aid Society). Their records have been microfilmed by the
Mormons and are easy to use. Once in Philadelphia, some chose to stay
because there was a strong Jewish community there, and others took a
train to NY or elsewhere. The HIAS records often indicate the final
destination of people who were assisted and who came to get them or paid
for their tickets elsewhere.
Ilene Murray
St. Louis, MO
Researching: WEISBERG in Machnovka (nr. Berdichev)
BOCHES in Pikov (nr. Vinnetsa)
KANFER in Horochov (Volynhia)


searching Margulis in Korytnitza. #ukraine

Margulis <lmargulis@...>
 

I=B4m searching the folowing families:

surname shteitl
MARGULIS KORYTNITSA, Volhynia gubernia
CRISTAL KORYTNITSA, Volhynia gubernia
DORENFELD VLODZIMEZHETZ, Volhynia guberrnia
SCHWARTZBLAT VLODZIMEZHETZ, Volhynia gubernia

Does anyone know if any of the shteitls currently exists?
Does anyone know where I can find information about births, weddings,
deceases, etc. in this shteilts?
Is anyone looking for relatives in this shteitls?

My father, David Margulis, was born in Korytnitsa en 1912 (in that moment
Volhynia belonged to Poland) and arrived to Buenos Aires, Argentina, in 1=
928
being an adolscent. He brought his sisters (Fany, Udl and Sure) and broth=
er
(Ioine). His parents, Hersh Margulis and Nejome Cristal stayed in the
shteitl with their oldest daughter (Marim), his husband and sons (names
unknown) and Ioine=B4s wife and three sons (names unknown). All of them =
were
killed by the nazzis. I know that cousins of my father, also named Margul=
is,
were living in Mexico.
I was not lucky in finding any information by now.
I=A8ll be very happy if someone has any information useful for me. Thanks.

Mario Margulis
Buenos Aires, Argentina
lmargulis@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine searching Margulis in Korytnitza. #ukraine

Margulis <lmargulis@...>
 

I=B4m searching the folowing families:

surname shteitl
MARGULIS KORYTNITSA, Volhynia gubernia
CRISTAL KORYTNITSA, Volhynia gubernia
DORENFELD VLODZIMEZHETZ, Volhynia guberrnia
SCHWARTZBLAT VLODZIMEZHETZ, Volhynia gubernia

Does anyone know if any of the shteitls currently exists?
Does anyone know where I can find information about births, weddings,
deceases, etc. in this shteilts?
Is anyone looking for relatives in this shteitls?

My father, David Margulis, was born in Korytnitsa en 1912 (in that moment
Volhynia belonged to Poland) and arrived to Buenos Aires, Argentina, in 1=
928
being an adolscent. He brought his sisters (Fany, Udl and Sure) and broth=
er
(Ioine). His parents, Hersh Margulis and Nejome Cristal stayed in the
shteitl with their oldest daughter (Marim), his husband and sons (names
unknown) and Ioine=B4s wife and three sons (names unknown). All of them =
were
killed by the nazzis. I know that cousins of my father, also named Margul=
is,
were living in Mexico.
I was not lucky in finding any information by now.
I=A8ll be very happy if someone has any information useful for me. Thanks.

Mario Margulis
Buenos Aires, Argentina
lmargulis@...


perhaps just an application of the same Fusgeyer name...but #ukraine

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

anyone interested in can read Gertrude Ogoshwitz' account at
http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/newsletter/vol2/vol2-4.html

So...which actually came first...the Fusgeyer movement among the
artisans in Romania or the application of the designation
"Fusgeyer" to any groups seeking freedom we may never know.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark MA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Personal messages to -->skydell@...
JewishGen business to -->cskydell@...
Thank you!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine perhaps just an application of the same Fusgeyer name...but #ukraine

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

anyone interested in can read Gertrude Ogoshwitz' account at
http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/newsletter/vol2/vol2-4.html

So...which actually came first...the Fusgeyer movement among the
artisans in Romania or the application of the designation
"Fusgeyer" to any groups seeking freedom we may never know.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark MA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Personal messages to -->skydell@...
JewishGen business to -->cskydell@...
Thank you!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Volume of mail #ukraine

Ancesthntr@...
 

To all,

I am very happy about the existence of the Ukraine SIG, but it seems quite overwhelming to get 50-75 emails per day. Is it possible to group all messages into one email per day? That is the way that other SIGs work, and it seems much better to me.

Paul Weiss
ancesthntr@...

Searching: in Zhitomir - BENOWITZ, BEJNUMOVICH, SCHNEIDER, SPOCK/SPOCH.
In Dnepropetrovsk/Ekaterinaslav - VASHEVNIKOV, VASHEVNIK, VISHEVNIK, BROVINSKY, LANBAUM/LASSBAUM, NAIZTAT, YETNIKOFF, SILAR/SKLAR

MODERATOR NOTE: All the JewishGen SIGs (including the Ukraine SIG) provide this option to members. You must go to the Mailing Lists' site at http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm, and follow the instructions under Managing Your Subscription.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Volume of mail #ukraine

Ancesthntr@...
 

To all,

I am very happy about the existence of the Ukraine SIG, but it seems quite overwhelming to get 50-75 emails per day. Is it possible to group all messages into one email per day? That is the way that other SIGs work, and it seems much better to me.

Paul Weiss
ancesthntr@...

Searching: in Zhitomir - BENOWITZ, BEJNUMOVICH, SCHNEIDER, SPOCK/SPOCH.
In Dnepropetrovsk/Ekaterinaslav - VASHEVNIKOV, VASHEVNIK, VISHEVNIK, BROVINSKY, LANBAUM/LASSBAUM, NAIZTAT, YETNIKOFF, SILAR/SKLAR

MODERATOR NOTE: All the JewishGen SIGs (including the Ukraine SIG) provide this option to members. You must go to the Mailing Lists' site at http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm, and follow the instructions under Managing Your Subscription.


Unexpected surprise at Kirovograd #ukraine

sjkmb4@...
 

Out of desperation I mailed a letter (in English) to "Town Hall Kirovograd"
as I had been unable to get any information regarding my ggm Fannie Weitzman
Rosenfield and ggf Jacob Rosenfield both of whom were born in the mid 1850s.
According to all of the census' I found they arrived (through NY) in
Providence, RI in about 1888 (I cannot find them and the elder children
Charles b. 1885 and Max b. 1881) on the passenger ship lists and the only
naturalization we have found does not totally fit.

Thanks to a posting and some very helpful genners, I found that Yelets (which
was what was on the 1900 census) was Yeletsovograd which become several names
later became Kirovograd. Kirovograd is a pretty good size city, but is
rarely mentioned in genealogy.

So, I wrote in April and last week I received a letter >from the Center of
the information and researches >from Kiev, Ukraine. They stated that they
found 2 archive certificates. It took them 39 hours, but they worked at a
rate of $2US per hour. The info could be translated for an additional fee.
The money could be wired through Western Union or Bankers Trust Company, NY.

Sherry Kamens
Wayne, NJ


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Unexpected surprise at Kirovograd #ukraine

sjkmb4@...
 

Out of desperation I mailed a letter (in English) to "Town Hall Kirovograd"
as I had been unable to get any information regarding my ggm Fannie Weitzman
Rosenfield and ggf Jacob Rosenfield both of whom were born in the mid 1850s.
According to all of the census' I found they arrived (through NY) in
Providence, RI in about 1888 (I cannot find them and the elder children
Charles b. 1885 and Max b. 1881) on the passenger ship lists and the only
naturalization we have found does not totally fit.

Thanks to a posting and some very helpful genners, I found that Yelets (which
was what was on the 1900 census) was Yeletsovograd which become several names
later became Kirovograd. Kirovograd is a pretty good size city, but is
rarely mentioned in genealogy.

So, I wrote in April and last week I received a letter >from the Center of
the information and researches >from Kiev, Ukraine. They stated that they
found 2 archive certificates. It took them 39 hours, but they worked at a
rate of $2US per hour. The info could be translated for an additional fee.
The money could be wired through Western Union or Bankers Trust Company, NY.

Sherry Kamens
Wayne, NJ


Re: Searching GOLDMAN and CITRIN, Olyka Volynia/Ukraine #ukraine

Toby Brief
 

Hi
Olyka is located in the western part of Volyn, near the Polish border. It
changed >from Russian to Polish between the Wars, then back to Ukraine after
WWII.
If you are intereseted we have portions of the Yizkor Book on JG.

Can you tell me where Olyka is located?
Sheila Friedman
---
Toby Brief, Campton, New Hampshire
tbrief@...

OLYKA: Horwitz, Finklestein, Mathless, Erga, Gingburg, Gorbaty
HORCHIV (GOROKHOV): Auerbach (Averbuch), Reicher, Rabinowitz
ROZHISHCHE: Auerbach, Goldweber
TORCIN: Bronstein, Weisberg
VOLODYMYR, ZASLAV: Brief

MODERATOR NOTE: Please check the ShtetlSeeker Site on JewishGen at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/
_________________________________________________________________________


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Searching GOLDMAN and CITRIN, Olyka Volynia/Ukraine #ukraine

Toby Brief
 

Hi
Olyka is located in the western part of Volyn, near the Polish border. It
changed >from Russian to Polish between the Wars, then back to Ukraine after
WWII.
If you are intereseted we have portions of the Yizkor Book on JG.

Can you tell me where Olyka is located?
Sheila Friedman
---
Toby Brief, Campton, New Hampshire
tbrief@...

OLYKA: Horwitz, Finklestein, Mathless, Erga, Gingburg, Gorbaty
HORCHIV (GOROKHOV): Auerbach (Averbuch), Reicher, Rabinowitz
ROZHISHCHE: Auerbach, Goldweber
TORCIN: Bronstein, Weisberg
VOLODYMYR, ZASLAV: Brief

MODERATOR NOTE: Please check the ShtetlSeeker Site on JewishGen at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/
_________________________________________________________________________


(No subject) #ukraine

lea yagol <yagol@...>
 

i'm glad to be a member of the ukraine sig.
i'm looking after my mothers family shraier >from kamnitz podolsk aria.
if somebody has any knowledge please lat. us knew.
lea *(Yagol)

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GREKIN Surname in Poldolia & Kherson Gubernia #ukraine

ANURICK@...
 

I am researching any and all individuals >from the Poldolia and Kherson
gubernia, particularly in and around the Balta region (50-100 mile radius)
with the surname GREKIN. This also includes eastern Moldova around the
Ribnitsa area. If anyone has connections to this family, I would love to
hear >from you.

Rick Ford
West Palm Beach, FL