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A Miami, Florida research request #general

David Priever <David_Priever@...>
 

Hello Fellow Jewishgenners,

A happy and healthy New Year in advance to all >from the Priever family.

Would someone in Miami be willing to swap research in that city for my
doing New York research? I need a Probate record >from 1974 (if one was
filed).

Please contact privately at:

david priever@...

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

David Priever


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Miami, Florida research request #general

David Priever <David_Priever@...>
 

Hello Fellow Jewishgenners,

A happy and healthy New Year in advance to all >from the Priever family.

Would someone in Miami be willing to swap research in that city for my
doing New York research? I need a Probate record >from 1974 (if one was
filed).

Please contact privately at:

david priever@...

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

David Priever


Searching: Rotman / Rothman in Philadelphia, PA #general

Jeanne Gold <JeanneGold@...>
 

Seeking Family/Descendents of Jacob Rotman / Rothman / Rothmen
(Documents have various surname spellings)

1 ROTMAN, Jacob
b: 01/1865 - 1867 Russia
d: 06/13/1928 on the train to Pittsburgh, PA
+ ??? [1], Miriam "Mary"
b: 08/1866 - 1870 Russia
m: 1885 - 1887

2 ROTMAN, Clara
b: 01/1886 Russia
+ LOPOTIN [2], ??? (male)

2 ROTMAN, Benjamin
b: 11/1889 - 1891 Russia
+ ???, Lena

2 ROTMAN, Ida
b: 01/1892 Russia
+ COHEN, ??? (male)
3 COHEN, Rivian
3 COHEN, Bernard

2 ROTMAN, Yetta [3]
b: 08/1892 Russia

2 ROTMAN, Bertha [3]
b: 1894

2 ROTMAN, Morris
b: 02/1896 - 1897 Russia

2 ROTMAN, Bessie [4]
b: ca 1902 PA

2 ROTMAN, Beatrice [4]

Notes:

[1] Miriam "Mary" ???: Maiden name may be Zupnick
[2] Lopotin: Surname may have been spelled Lopotin, Lapotin, Lapoten, Lopoten
[3] Yetta and Bertha: may be one person
[4] Bessie and Beatrice: may be one person

Please reply privately.

TIA.

Jeanne Gold
El Cajon, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Rotman / Rothman in Philadelphia, PA #general

Jeanne Gold <JeanneGold@...>
 

Seeking Family/Descendents of Jacob Rotman / Rothman / Rothmen
(Documents have various surname spellings)

1 ROTMAN, Jacob
b: 01/1865 - 1867 Russia
d: 06/13/1928 on the train to Pittsburgh, PA
+ ??? [1], Miriam "Mary"
b: 08/1866 - 1870 Russia
m: 1885 - 1887

2 ROTMAN, Clara
b: 01/1886 Russia
+ LOPOTIN [2], ??? (male)

2 ROTMAN, Benjamin
b: 11/1889 - 1891 Russia
+ ???, Lena

2 ROTMAN, Ida
b: 01/1892 Russia
+ COHEN, ??? (male)
3 COHEN, Rivian
3 COHEN, Bernard

2 ROTMAN, Yetta [3]
b: 08/1892 Russia

2 ROTMAN, Bertha [3]
b: 1894

2 ROTMAN, Morris
b: 02/1896 - 1897 Russia

2 ROTMAN, Bessie [4]
b: ca 1902 PA

2 ROTMAN, Beatrice [4]

Notes:

[1] Miriam "Mary" ???: Maiden name may be Zupnick
[2] Lopotin: Surname may have been spelled Lopotin, Lapotin, Lapoten, Lopoten
[3] Yetta and Bertha: may be one person
[4] Bessie and Beatrice: may be one person

Please reply privately.

TIA.

Jeanne Gold
El Cajon, CA


: Beware of false researchers #ukraine

Udi Cain
 

We know that the economic situation in the Ukraine is far >from being stable.
We can estimate reasonable prices, for instance if a researcher asks foe
between 2-5$ per hour + expenses for copying or paying to archives if
needed, it might look good. But in the case that I referred to, one of our
colleges, paid over 2000$ on advance, and got gurnisht in return. I have
sent a letter of attorney to a researcher in Kiev, she didn't ask for money
on advance so I'm happy with that, and I'll be happier to pay her if and
when she will show results.

Yours, Udi Caim.

I agree.

It's kind of frustrating that the rules of the SIG prevent us >from alerting
people to the risk of getting ripped off by unscrupulous researchers and
all
we can do is sit back and hear about the problems after the event. As the
SIG is meant to be a vehicle for sharing and exchanging information, it's a
bit of a shame that the SIG can't be used for this important service.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine : Beware of false researchers #ukraine

Udi Cain
 

We know that the economic situation in the Ukraine is far >from being stable.
We can estimate reasonable prices, for instance if a researcher asks foe
between 2-5$ per hour + expenses for copying or paying to archives if
needed, it might look good. But in the case that I referred to, one of our
colleges, paid over 2000$ on advance, and got gurnisht in return. I have
sent a letter of attorney to a researcher in Kiev, she didn't ask for money
on advance so I'm happy with that, and I'll be happier to pay her if and
when she will show results.

Yours, Udi Caim.

I agree.

It's kind of frustrating that the rules of the SIG prevent us >from alerting
people to the risk of getting ripped off by unscrupulous researchers and
all
we can do is sit back and hear about the problems after the event. As the
SIG is meant to be a vehicle for sharing and exchanging information, it's a
bit of a shame that the SIG can't be used for this important service.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@...


Re: : Beware of false researchers #ukraine

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

I agree.

It's kind of frustrating that the rules of the SIG prevent us >from alerting
people to the risk of getting ripped off by unscrupulous researchers and all
we can do is sit back and hear about the problems after the event. As the
SIG is meant to be a vehicle for sharing and exchanging information, it's a
bit of a shame that the SIG can't be used for this important service.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@...

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)

-----Original Message-----
From: Udi Cain [mailto:chaikin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2000 07:45
To: Ukraine SIG
Subject: : Beware of false researchers


Hear Hear, as they say in the parliament.

Udi Cain.


Ukranians all --

Perhaps the solution would be for the SIG to begin a database of reliable
researchers. In fact, it would be in the best interest of the more
reputable researchers in the area to form a working relationship with the
SIG. If the SIG had a "pool" of researchers in the region, it would make
such research easier for us (I myself have been too timid to try it yet),
and would be quite lucrative for the researchers -- a good match.

-- Alex Kolker


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: : Beware of false researchers #ukraine

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

I agree.

It's kind of frustrating that the rules of the SIG prevent us >from alerting
people to the risk of getting ripped off by unscrupulous researchers and all
we can do is sit back and hear about the problems after the event. As the
SIG is meant to be a vehicle for sharing and exchanging information, it's a
bit of a shame that the SIG can't be used for this important service.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@...

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)

-----Original Message-----
From: Udi Cain [mailto:chaikin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2000 07:45
To: Ukraine SIG
Subject: : Beware of false researchers


Hear Hear, as they say in the parliament.

Udi Cain.


Ukranians all --

Perhaps the solution would be for the SIG to begin a database of reliable
researchers. In fact, it would be in the best interest of the more
reputable researchers in the area to form a working relationship with the
SIG. If the SIG had a "pool" of researchers in the region, it would make
such research easier for us (I myself have been too timid to try it yet),
and would be quite lucrative for the researchers -- a good match.

-- Alex Kolker


: Beware of false researchers #ukraine

Udi Cain
 

Hear Hear, as they say in the parliament.

Udi Cain.

Ukranians all --

Perhaps the solution would be for the SIG to begin a database of reliable
researchers. In fact, it would be in the best interest of the more
reputable researchers in the area to form a working relationship with the
SIG. If the SIG had a "pool" of researchers in the region, it would make
such research easier for us (I myself have been too timid to try it yet),
and would be quite lucrative for the researchers -- a good match.

-- Alex Kolker

Looking for KOLKER, BEL'SKAYA VOLYA, MAX, and HORNSTEIN in the towns of
KOLKI and BEL'SKAYA VOLYA, near LUTSK


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine : Beware of false researchers #ukraine

Udi Cain
 

Hear Hear, as they say in the parliament.

Udi Cain.

Ukranians all --

Perhaps the solution would be for the SIG to begin a database of reliable
researchers. In fact, it would be in the best interest of the more
reputable researchers in the area to form a working relationship with the
SIG. If the SIG had a "pool" of researchers in the region, it would make
such research easier for us (I myself have been too timid to try it yet),
and would be quite lucrative for the researchers -- a good match.

-- Alex Kolker

Looking for KOLKER, BEL'SKAYA VOLYA, MAX, and HORNSTEIN in the towns of
KOLKI and BEL'SKAYA VOLYA, near LUTSK


Re: Volume of mail #ukraine

arlene <aparnes@...>
 

Its called a "digest"
Arlene [Parnes]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert A. Korren" <rkorren@...>
To: "Ukraine SIG" <ukraine@...>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Volume of mail

One email with all the separate messages combined is a great idea. I was
just sitting here opening 30 separate new messages in one day thinking
that an avalanche of mail >from this SIG started not more than a few
weeks ago.
One email a day will let us keep up with and share the flood of
information without stressing out our email inbox....
Thanks.
[Robert Korren]


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Volume of mail #ukraine

arlene <aparnes@...>
 

Its called a "digest"
Arlene [Parnes]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert A. Korren" <rkorren@...>
To: "Ukraine SIG" <ukraine@...>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Volume of mail

One email with all the separate messages combined is a great idea. I was
just sitting here opening 30 separate new messages in one day thinking
that an avalanche of mail >from this SIG started not more than a few
weeks ago.
One email a day will let us keep up with and share the flood of
information without stressing out our email inbox....
Thanks.
[Robert Korren]


Surname OFSA. If not real, what might it have been #ukraine

gail bank <bankg@...>
 

Hello all:
My maternal grandparents emigrated to Baltimore in 1884 >from Kiev,
they said, or possibly >from the environs of that city, where they
operated a butcher shop. Their first two children were born in
Baltimore, the next 4 in several cities in Virginia, and the last 7 in
West Virginia. The 1900 Census for McDowell County, the town of
Keystone, lists my grandparents as born in Russia. There is also a
listing of a husband and wife and child with the same surname, OFSA, but
they were born in Germany. There is no further listing of the german
born OFSA family, or of any other family with that surname in the 1910
and 1920 censuses. A check of the OFSA surname listed in telephone books
via the internet for the entire US contains only names of persons who
are descendants of my grandparents. I have been unable to locate the
name in any of the books by Beider that I have access to. Thus, I am
faced with the nagging possibility that the name OFSA was not the
original family name.
My observation is that family name changes were often associated
with a shortening of the original name, or that there was some
reasonable linkage or association that could be made between the old and
the new name. I am stumped! Any suggestions about what other names to
explore as a possible original family name will be appreciated.
Thanks for any suggestions that can be offered.

(male) Gail Bank, Columbia, MO


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Surname OFSA. If not real, what might it have been #ukraine

gail bank <bankg@...>
 

Hello all:
My maternal grandparents emigrated to Baltimore in 1884 >from Kiev,
they said, or possibly >from the environs of that city, where they
operated a butcher shop. Their first two children were born in
Baltimore, the next 4 in several cities in Virginia, and the last 7 in
West Virginia. The 1900 Census for McDowell County, the town of
Keystone, lists my grandparents as born in Russia. There is also a
listing of a husband and wife and child with the same surname, OFSA, but
they were born in Germany. There is no further listing of the german
born OFSA family, or of any other family with that surname in the 1910
and 1920 censuses. A check of the OFSA surname listed in telephone books
via the internet for the entire US contains only names of persons who
are descendants of my grandparents. I have been unable to locate the
name in any of the books by Beider that I have access to. Thus, I am
faced with the nagging possibility that the name OFSA was not the
original family name.
My observation is that family name changes were often associated
with a shortening of the original name, or that there was some
reasonable linkage or association that could be made between the old and
the new name. I am stumped! Any suggestions about what other names to
explore as a possible original family name will be appreciated.
Thanks for any suggestions that can be offered.

(male) Gail Bank, Columbia, MO


áòðééï: þKrivozer/Krivoye Ozero #ukraine

Nitsan <nitsanri@...>
 

Hi,
Snip< [Personal]
My great great grandfather was Ephraim Rosovsky >from Bragin Belarus. Bragin is located in south Belarus very close to border with the Ukraine. The family lived in Bragin for about 300 years. They worked as coachmen and klezemrim. Ephraim had 13 or 17 children. One of them was a General in the Red Army. The youngest one was Harry and he grew up in Lviv Ukraine. Some of the family members moved at some point to Kiev and to
Odessa. Ephraim's brother was Joseph he moved to Ekatrinoslav lived and
had his family over there. He had 3 children a son named Shachne and 2
daughters Chya Leah Ida, and Sima Rosa. I hope some of this sounds
familiar to you. Good luck in your research.

Nitsan Richter

From: michael turner <mturner@...>
To: Ukraine SIG <ukraine@...>
Date: 2000 00:22
Subject: Re: Krivozer/Krivoye Ozero

i just spotted your message and am interested in your last name fuchs. =
my
maternal grandfather bore that name..philip son of feifel who married a =
rose
and had helen married to willy cohen; fanny married to feifel deutsch; =
jenny
married jacob glottstein; an unknown child; philip(grandpa) how married
Sarah seidler. ...happy new year....mike turner


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine áòðééï: þKrivozer/Krivoye Ozero #ukraine

Nitsan <nitsanri@...>
 

Hi,
Snip< [Personal]
My great great grandfather was Ephraim Rosovsky >from Bragin Belarus. Bragin is located in south Belarus very close to border with the Ukraine. The family lived in Bragin for about 300 years. They worked as coachmen and klezemrim. Ephraim had 13 or 17 children. One of them was a General in the Red Army. The youngest one was Harry and he grew up in Lviv Ukraine. Some of the family members moved at some point to Kiev and to
Odessa. Ephraim's brother was Joseph he moved to Ekatrinoslav lived and
had his family over there. He had 3 children a son named Shachne and 2
daughters Chya Leah Ida, and Sima Rosa. I hope some of this sounds
familiar to you. Good luck in your research.

Nitsan Richter

From: michael turner <mturner@...>
To: Ukraine SIG <ukraine@...>
Date: 2000 00:22
Subject: Re: Krivozer/Krivoye Ozero

i just spotted your message and am interested in your last name fuchs. =
my
maternal grandfather bore that name..philip son of feifel who married a =
rose
and had helen married to willy cohen; fanny married to feifel deutsch; =
jenny
married jacob glottstein; an unknown child; philip(grandpa) how married
Sarah seidler. ...happy new year....mike turner


Re: SSDI form #general

Shirley Wilets
 

My experience with SSDI has been quite successful.
Admittedly some of the information on the applications, which was provided
by the applicant himself or herself, proved to be incorrect but that was
not the fault of the SSDI records. It just happened that I knew enough of
the family lore to make corrections.
As always one document isn't the whole answer but still it can be of use
when added to other research.

Shirley Wilets
Chevy Chase, Md. USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSDI form #general

Shirley Wilets
 

My experience with SSDI has been quite successful.
Admittedly some of the information on the applications, which was provided
by the applicant himself or herself, proved to be incorrect but that was
not the fault of the SSDI records. It just happened that I knew enough of
the family lore to make corrections.
As always one document isn't the whole answer but still it can be of use
when added to other research.

Shirley Wilets
Chevy Chase, Md. USA


Industrial Removal Office #general

delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
 

Where would one find, order or otherwise obtain specific records >from the
Industrial Removal Office?

Stacy Harris
Nashville


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Industrial Removal Office #general

delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
 

Where would one find, order or otherwise obtain specific records >from the
Industrial Removal Office?

Stacy Harris
Nashville