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Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

Dear Diana
my BERLIN family comes >from Grodno Gubernya, now Belarus.
They are not connected to Warszawa:
my father met my mother Ruchla ROTENSTEJN ( she was born in Warszawa)
in Toulouse France during WWII ...
Unfortubnately BERLIN is an awfully common name.
Good luck !
Nicole BERLINE
searching ROTENSZTEJN ROCHMAN RAKOWER Warsawa
BERLIN ISAAC Derechin Slonim (Belarus)
OGUS ARONOWICH Paberze, Kaunas LEIBOVICH St Petersburg

----- Message d'origine -----
De : John & Diana Terry <jterry@picknowl.com.au>

I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER, from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER and
I have been researching my Family for years.

Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA
jterry@picknowl.com.au


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

Dear Diana
my BERLIN family comes >from Grodno Gubernya, now Belarus.
They are not connected to Warszawa:
my father met my mother Ruchla ROTENSTEJN ( she was born in Warszawa)
in Toulouse France during WWII ...
Unfortubnately BERLIN is an awfully common name.
Good luck !
Nicole BERLINE
searching ROTENSZTEJN ROCHMAN RAKOWER Warsawa
BERLIN ISAAC Derechin Slonim (Belarus)
OGUS ARONOWICH Paberze, Kaunas LEIBOVICH St Petersburg

----- Message d'origine -----
De : John & Diana Terry <jterry@picknowl.com.au>

I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER, from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER and
I have been researching my Family for years.

Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA
jterry@picknowl.com.au


Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Dear Nicole
I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER,
from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER
and
I have been researching my Family for years.
Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA

Just to fill everyone in who doesn't know, Nasz Przeglad is the second of
the "Life Cycle" Databases sponsored by the Warszawa Research Group.

The first one was the 1937-1939 Marriage annoucements >from the Warszawa
Jewish Newspaper Glos Gminy Further information can be found at
(http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/warsaw/warsmarr.htm) There were over 6000
names listed in this database.

The second database, which is currently in progress, is death notices >from
the daily newspaper, Nasz Przeglad. Further information can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/NaszPrzeglad.htm The database
currently contains July-December 1937 death notices. Soon to be added
are portions of 1938 and a very small portion >from 1923. We will announce
when the next set of data goes live.

from the responses that I have received >from people, both of the databases
have yielded helpful information to our Warszawa Researchers.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland RE: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Dear Nicole
I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER,
from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER
and
I have been researching my Family for years.
Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA

Just to fill everyone in who doesn't know, Nasz Przeglad is the second of
the "Life Cycle" Databases sponsored by the Warszawa Research Group.

The first one was the 1937-1939 Marriage annoucements >from the Warszawa
Jewish Newspaper Glos Gminy Further information can be found at
(http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/warsaw/warsmarr.htm) There were over 6000
names listed in this database.

The second database, which is currently in progress, is death notices >from
the daily newspaper, Nasz Przeglad. Further information can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/NaszPrzeglad.htm The database
currently contains July-December 1937 death notices. Soon to be added
are portions of 1938 and a very small portion >from 1923. We will announce
when the next set of data goes live.

from the responses that I have received >from people, both of the databases
have yielded helpful information to our Warszawa Researchers.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY


Re: How many marriages? #hungary

George Farkas <george@...>
 

Hi,

I received this information >from my great-uncle, but I have not verified
it. There were two cases in my family where the children took the mother's
name and this was given as the reason. There were other situations, where,
in second marriages, the children did take the father's name.

George Farkas


At 12/1/00 10:15 AM +0100, Graner Georges wrote:
Hello,
I am surprised that there is a discussion about the number of marriages
allowed for jews in the Austro-Hungarian empire. It might have been true
in Galicia but not in Hungary.
In my family, there are many cases of brothers who got married legally
without problem.
mod.- I think we have already established the historical fact that there
were no restrictions on legal secular or religious marriages in Hungary
proper. There are a myriad of reasons why a person would begin useing the
mother's name and not the father's name. It was not an uncommon experience
throughout Eastern Europe. Unless there is some new substantial material
on this subject let's close this thread.LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: How many marriages? #hungary

George Farkas <george@...>
 

Hi,

I received this information >from my great-uncle, but I have not verified
it. There were two cases in my family where the children took the mother's
name and this was given as the reason. There were other situations, where,
in second marriages, the children did take the father's name.

George Farkas


At 12/1/00 10:15 AM +0100, Graner Georges wrote:
Hello,
I am surprised that there is a discussion about the number of marriages
allowed for jews in the Austro-Hungarian empire. It might have been true
in Galicia but not in Hungary.
In my family, there are many cases of brothers who got married legally
without problem.
mod.- I think we have already established the historical fact that there
were no restrictions on legal secular or religious marriages in Hungary
proper. There are a myriad of reasons why a person would begin useing the
mother's name and not the father's name. It was not an uncommon experience
throughout Eastern Europe. Unless there is some new substantial material
on this subject let's close this thread.LS


* interesting link for Slovakian researchers #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear friends,

If you wish to see the shtetls where your ancestors lived, have a peek at
http://ender.mtak.hu/index_e5.html
There you will find paintings made in the 19th century by Thomas
Ender. They depict most of the Slovakian towns and landmarks. Very
interesting and you can get an enlargment of any painting.

Enjoy
Tom
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary * interesting link for Slovakian researchers #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear friends,

If you wish to see the shtetls where your ancestors lived, have a peek at
http://ender.mtak.hu/index_e5.html
There you will find paintings made in the 19th century by Thomas
Ender. They depict most of the Slovakian towns and landmarks. Very
interesting and you can get an enlargment of any painting.

Enjoy
Tom
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

John & Diana Terry <jterry@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Berline" <nberline@club-internet.fr>
To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 3:51 AM
Subject: Nasz Przeglad copies.


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Dear Hadassah
Thanks a lot for the Nasz Przeglad copies.
This Estera RAKOWER which you found might well be close to my mother:
an educated woman, professor of philosophy, was not common in these
times.
She died >from sickness at 26, otherwise she would have died a few years
later in
a gaz chamber ...

I am thinking of ways of finding help for going on with this work.

amities
Nicole Berline, Paris
Dear Nicole

I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER, from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER and
I have been researching my Family for years.

Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA
jterry@picknowl.com.au


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re: Nasz Przeglad copies. #warsaw #poland

John & Diana Terry <jterry@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Berline" <nberline@club-internet.fr>
To: "Warszawa Research Group" <warszawa@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 3:51 AM
Subject: Nasz Przeglad copies.


This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show
your appreciation and support by visiting
http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/
Dear Hadassah
Thanks a lot for the Nasz Przeglad copies.
This Estera RAKOWER which you found might well be close to my mother:
an educated woman, professor of philosophy, was not common in these
times.
She died >from sickness at 26, otherwise she would have died a few years
later in
a gaz chamber ...

I am thinking of ways of finding help for going on with this work.

amities
Nicole Berline, Paris
Dear Nicole

I read your e-mail to the Group with interest. I found the name of an
Ancestor also on Nasz Przeglad and her name was ROZA BERLINER WECHSLER, from
Warsaw, Poland but died in Buenos Aires, in 1937.. I was wondering
whether your surname was BERLINER or just BERLINE. My name was BERLINER and
I have been researching my Family for years.

Kind regards
DIANA TERRY - AUSTRALIA
jterry@picknowl.com.au


Searching for Rubensteins. #belarus

BUBBICHAR@...
 

It's been a while so I'm posting my searching for:

Any RUBENSTEIN >from Gorodok, Ostroshitsky Gorodok.
Specifically, PESACH RUBENSTEIN who lived in Chicago
early part of the century.
His daughter's name was Ruth.

Any MELTZER >from Minsk Gubernia

Any STILLMAN >from Shmulavitz (spelling?)

Already listed in Family Finder, but it never hurts to
throw it out to everyone.

Thanks,
Charlotte Abrams,
Venice, Ca


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching for Rubensteins. #belarus

BUBBICHAR@...
 

It's been a while so I'm posting my searching for:

Any RUBENSTEIN >from Gorodok, Ostroshitsky Gorodok.
Specifically, PESACH RUBENSTEIN who lived in Chicago
early part of the century.
His daughter's name was Ruth.

Any MELTZER >from Minsk Gubernia

Any STILLMAN >from Shmulavitz (spelling?)

Already listed in Family Finder, but it never hurts to
throw it out to everyone.

Thanks,
Charlotte Abrams,
Venice, Ca


Re: death certificate - NY #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

If the NY Dept. of Health did a correct search, another solution is
possible. Your relative may actually have died elsewhere, but the last
benefit paid to a Brooklyn address. An example might be if your relative
had a second home in Florida and died there, but maintained Brooklyn as
his official address to the Social Seciruty Administration, or the
beneficiary was in Brooklyn.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: death certificate - NY #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

If the NY Dept. of Health did a correct search, another solution is
possible. Your relative may actually have died elsewhere, but the last
benefit paid to a Brooklyn address. An example might be if your relative
had a second home in Florida and died there, but maintained Brooklyn as
his official address to the Social Seciruty Administration, or the
beneficiary was in Brooklyn.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


Sokolow-Podlaski? #general

mraizman <mraizman@...>
 

Several months ago someone told me that a group of Sokolow-Podlaski
folks living in France were starting a page on the Internet about the
town. Does anyone have any information on this? Sokolow-Podlaski is a
Polish town due east of Warsaw and in the Warsaw province or district.
Thank you and best, Marc Raizman, Boulder, Colorado, USA


Los Angeles riddle #general

Clankarol@...
 

What would 20 bucks and two days get you in Los Angeles?

Twenty bucks would get you two hours family research in Los Angeles-
it would probably cost you more to get there! And two days is all you
have left to bid on this item in the JewishGen AuctionHouse.

So go on, visit the auction house at http://www.jewishgen.org/auction/
and pick up a real bargain.

Karol Schlosser
AuctionHouse Volunteer


Re: Locating marriage license #general

Barbara <bleckstein@...>
 

Frankly without the location of the wedding I haven't a clue how you'd
find the marriage license, but there are other angles to pursue. One
is to find out if she had a social security number prior to the
marriage and then to check if she filed a name change when she
married.

Two is to find out if the VA will allow sworn affidavits to replace
the documentation required. ie someone who has known her under both
names for a long period of time swearing that she is the same person.

Three is to find out if the branch of the service she was in still has
her file which should contain her photograph, blood type, and in some
cases fingerprints.

Good luck

Barbara Leckstein
New Jersey

My wife's elderly aunt suffers >from dementia and doesn't have very good
memory these days. She is a WWII veteran and needs to get some services
from the VA. Problem is that her discharge papers show her maiden name and
she now uses her married name. So we need her marriage license as proof of
the name change.


Ciechanow web page addition #ciechanow #poland

stanz@...
 

Dear Ciechanow researchers,

If you have a look at our web page you will see an addition (>from
the menu) under "Jewish Life". The addition is a photo of an oil
painting of the shul.

from the same source, we have a copy of a hand drawn map (>from
memory) of Ciechanow (1920), labelled with street names,
buildings, etc. Some of these labels are difficult to read. The
objective is to redraw this map for presentation on our web page.

To do this well, it would be helpful to be able to examine other town
maps of Ciechanow of this era. I have not as yet been successful
in finding any such material. If any one is aware of a source for
this, please let me know.

I would like to see the 1923 business directory completed. The
challenge here is to prepare the existing data so that the special
Polish characters can be displayed. I can provide instructions on
how to do this. I am hoping that someone will volunteer to take up
the task. The objective is to present the already assembled data in
three ways:

1) By category
2) By name
3) By address

The latter one may be very interesting in that it provides a way of
seeing how business are located in proximity to one another. This,
along with the map, might help us get a bit of a glimpse into the life
of the town.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada
stanz@idirect.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sokolow-Podlaski? #general

mraizman <mraizman@...>
 

Several months ago someone told me that a group of Sokolow-Podlaski
folks living in France were starting a page on the Internet about the
town. Does anyone have any information on this? Sokolow-Podlaski is a
Polish town due east of Warsaw and in the Warsaw province or district.
Thank you and best, Marc Raizman, Boulder, Colorado, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Los Angeles riddle #general

Clankarol@...
 

What would 20 bucks and two days get you in Los Angeles?

Twenty bucks would get you two hours family research in Los Angeles-
it would probably cost you more to get there! And two days is all you
have left to bid on this item in the JewishGen AuctionHouse.

So go on, visit the auction house at http://www.jewishgen.org/auction/
and pick up a real bargain.

Karol Schlosser
AuctionHouse Volunteer