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Reading Recommendation #latvia

Jack R. Braverman <jbraverman1@...>
 

Articles about desecration of Jewish cemeteries are at least tangentially=

related to this List, nicht
var? Hope so. =


You may be interested in reading "The Carpentras Affair," in the November=

6th issue of "The
New Yorker." Do so especially if you are a Francophile, yet even a mild
interest in the dynamics
of European small-town prejudice make it a good read.

The desecration of the oldest cemetery in Europe still _in use_ (>from the=

14th cent.) =

is the occasion of the piece, but it's really in the background and is
given only a little description.
What happens after the discovery ... therein lies the tale.

Oh, have you ever wondered where Captain Dreyfus went after his return fr=
om
Devil's Island?
Yes! Carpentras until he couldn't stand it anymore.

Jack Braverman
Cleveland, OH


Latvia SIG #Latvia Reading Recommendation #latvia

Jack R. Braverman <jbraverman1@...>
 

Articles about desecration of Jewish cemeteries are at least tangentially=

related to this List, nicht
var? Hope so. =


You may be interested in reading "The Carpentras Affair," in the November=

6th issue of "The
New Yorker." Do so especially if you are a Francophile, yet even a mild
interest in the dynamics
of European small-town prejudice make it a good read.

The desecration of the oldest cemetery in Europe still _in use_ (>from the=

14th cent.) =

is the occasion of the piece, but it's really in the background and is
given only a little description.
What happens after the discovery ... therein lies the tale.

Oh, have you ever wondered where Captain Dreyfus went after his return fr=
om
Devil's Island?
Yes! Carpentras until he couldn't stand it anymore.

Jack Braverman
Cleveland, OH


SF Bay Area JGS Workshop #general

D. Kurtz <dlkurtz@...>
 

The San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society presents the

15th ANNUAL JEWISH GENEALOGY WORKSHOP
Sunday, November 12, 2000
12pm - 4pm

Fort Mason Center
Marina Blvd. at Buchanan St.
Building C, Room 205
San Francisco

*CLASSES*
12pm-1:30pm - Jewish Genealogy: The Basics, presented by Marc Seidenfeld

2pm-3:30pm - Beyond the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions),
presented by Rodger Rosenberg and Rosanne Leeson


*ASK ME ABOUT* Come get your questions answered and information about:
1pm-2:30pm - National Archives, Immigration, France, Germany, Romania,
Hungary

2:30pm-4pm - Belarus, Lithuania, Poland, England, UC Berkeley Libraries

*TRANSLATION ASSISTANCE*
1pm-4pm - Yiddish, Polish, Russian, German, Georgian, Macedonian, more.

*ALL DAY RESEARCH AND ASSISTANCE*
Library resources: microfiche, maps, computers, helpful volunteers!

Door prizes! Refreshments! Schmooze tables! Information tables!
More!

JOIN US!

Visit our website at: www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs

For more information, contact:
Rodger Rosenberg, President, eandr@ix.netcom.com
Rosanne Leeson, Vice President, Leeson1@attglobal.net
Sita Likuski, Membership, sitaL@aol.com
Judy Baston, Librarian, jrbaston@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SF Bay Area JGS Workshop #general

D. Kurtz <dlkurtz@...>
 

The San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society presents the

15th ANNUAL JEWISH GENEALOGY WORKSHOP
Sunday, November 12, 2000
12pm - 4pm

Fort Mason Center
Marina Blvd. at Buchanan St.
Building C, Room 205
San Francisco

*CLASSES*
12pm-1:30pm - Jewish Genealogy: The Basics, presented by Marc Seidenfeld

2pm-3:30pm - Beyond the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions),
presented by Rodger Rosenberg and Rosanne Leeson


*ASK ME ABOUT* Come get your questions answered and information about:
1pm-2:30pm - National Archives, Immigration, France, Germany, Romania,
Hungary

2:30pm-4pm - Belarus, Lithuania, Poland, England, UC Berkeley Libraries

*TRANSLATION ASSISTANCE*
1pm-4pm - Yiddish, Polish, Russian, German, Georgian, Macedonian, more.

*ALL DAY RESEARCH AND ASSISTANCE*
Library resources: microfiche, maps, computers, helpful volunteers!

Door prizes! Refreshments! Schmooze tables! Information tables!
More!

JOIN US!

Visit our website at: www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs

For more information, contact:
Rodger Rosenberg, President, eandr@ix.netcom.com
Rosanne Leeson, Vice President, Leeson1@attglobal.net
Sita Likuski, Membership, sitaL@aol.com
Judy Baston, Librarian, jrbaston@aol.com


November Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

November Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Philadelphia

Date: Monday, November 13, 2000
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA

Speaker: Mark Halpern
Topic: Jewish Records Indexing -Poland: Vital Records >from Poland and More

Mark will review how to use the online database of records >from Poland,
explain what information can be obtained there, and also describe the new
initiatives recently announced by JRI-Poland.

Mark Halpern has coordinated for JRI-Poland the records of the Bialystok
(birthplace of his mother) branch of the Polish State Archives, which had
not been microfilmed by the LDS church. Currently, he is coordinating the
indexing of records held in Warsaw's AGAD Archives for 13 towns near
Tarnopol, his father's birthplace, in the Galacian part of Ukraine. In
addition he is a volunteer on Jewishgen and a member of JGSP for one year.

******
Special Offer for New Members and other Beginners!

Come at 7:15, 30 minutes early, and hear more experienced members of
JGSP give advice and counsel on issues that interest and perplex you.
Come early and stay for the regular meeting following.
*****
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Russian Special Interest Group:
The next (Important) meeting will be held on Sunday, November 19, at
1:30 p.m. at the Klein Branch JG/CC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.

Speaker: Ms. Klara Vinokur, former head of the Kiev organization of
Holocaust survivors.
*****

Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen November Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

November Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Philadelphia

Date: Monday, November 13, 2000
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA

Speaker: Mark Halpern
Topic: Jewish Records Indexing -Poland: Vital Records >from Poland and More

Mark will review how to use the online database of records >from Poland,
explain what information can be obtained there, and also describe the new
initiatives recently announced by JRI-Poland.

Mark Halpern has coordinated for JRI-Poland the records of the Bialystok
(birthplace of his mother) branch of the Polish State Archives, which had
not been microfilmed by the LDS church. Currently, he is coordinating the
indexing of records held in Warsaw's AGAD Archives for 13 towns near
Tarnopol, his father's birthplace, in the Galacian part of Ukraine. In
addition he is a volunteer on Jewishgen and a member of JGSP for one year.

******
Special Offer for New Members and other Beginners!

Come at 7:15, 30 minutes early, and hear more experienced members of
JGSP give advice and counsel on issues that interest and perplex you.
Come early and stay for the regular meeting following.
*****
Interested friends are always welcome!
Refreshments will be served following the meeting
******
For all who are researching Philadelphia roots and need information on
local resources; cemeteries, funeral directors, repositories (and much
more) please visit the JGSP website: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsp
******
Russian Special Interest Group:
The next (Important) meeting will be held on Sunday, November 19, at
1:30 p.m. at the Klein Branch JG/CC, Red Lion Rd. & Jamison Ave.

Speaker: Ms. Klara Vinokur, former head of the Kiev organization of
Holocaust survivors.
*****

Lois Sernoff [JGS Philadelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


Re: Dr. Vivian Moses DNA website #general

Kevin Brook <samkarsh@...>
 

Wayne,

I have learned that preliminary results >from Dr. Vivian Moses' study
may be available as soon as December of this year. The University
College London homepage of the genetic study being led by Dr. Moses is:

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/ashkenazim/

For complete coverage of the pros and cons of various genetic
interpretations, along with comprehensive statistical information, see
the summaries and articles at the following link:

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html

Sincerely yours,
Kevin Alan Brook
Author, The Jews of Khazaria


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dr. Vivian Moses DNA website #general

Kevin Brook <samkarsh@...>
 

Wayne,

I have learned that preliminary results >from Dr. Vivian Moses' study
may be available as soon as December of this year. The University
College London homepage of the genetic study being led by Dr. Moses is:

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/ashkenazim/

For complete coverage of the pros and cons of various genetic
interpretations, along with comprehensive statistical information, see
the summaries and articles at the following link:

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html

Sincerely yours,
Kevin Alan Brook
Author, The Jews of Khazaria


The surname KUVANT and given name Feige #general

JonBorchard@...
 

I have recently tracked down US Social Security card for a relative
Rose TABACHNIK. Her maiden name was KUVENT and they came >from Gostynin,
Poland.

Has anyone ever come across the name KUVENT and is there a usual
translation for the given name Feige - who was Rose's mother??

One final question please - Rose's husband was Max TABACHNIK and they
lived in New York area. Has anyone come across this family??

Many thanks
Jonathan Borchard - London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The surname KUVANT and given name Feige #general

JonBorchard@...
 

I have recently tracked down US Social Security card for a relative
Rose TABACHNIK. Her maiden name was KUVENT and they came >from Gostynin,
Poland.

Has anyone ever come across the name KUVENT and is there a usual
translation for the given name Feige - who was Rose's mother??

One final question please - Rose's husband was Max TABACHNIK and they
lived in New York area. Has anyone come across this family??

Many thanks
Jonathan Borchard - London


Re: Unfamiliar Yiddish first names #general

Howard Zakai
 

Steven,
Your great-grandmother Bertha's Hebrew name reads Bella Chaya - they are
both common names...
Your great aunt Sylvia's name is Havtola Zlada...
I am not sure what the first name is/means, but the second can be Zlata...
My great-great-grandmother was Lottie in English, but Zlata in Hebrew....
It can also read Zelda, although I was never aware Zelda was a Hebrew
name...
Don't quote me on these.. I can read Hebrew and can recognize most
Hebrew/Yiddish names, but I am not fluent.. I am sure most Genners can
give you a more precise answer..
Howie Zakai
Staten Island & Binghamton, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unfamiliar Yiddish first names #general

Howard Zakai
 

Steven,
Your great-grandmother Bertha's Hebrew name reads Bella Chaya - they are
both common names...
Your great aunt Sylvia's name is Havtola Zlada...
I am not sure what the first name is/means, but the second can be Zlata...
My great-great-grandmother was Lottie in English, but Zlata in Hebrew....
It can also read Zelda, although I was never aware Zelda was a Hebrew
name...
Don't quote me on these.. I can read Hebrew and can recognize most
Hebrew/Yiddish names, but I am not fluent.. I am sure most Genners can
give you a more precise answer..
Howie Zakai
Staten Island & Binghamton, NY


Scharye and Zacharia #general

steve morgan <morgansr@...>
 

I think I found the correct passenger record for my great-grandfather,
Schmarye Baron. The records shows the 3 brothers in the family, the age is
right so I guess I am on the right track. The passenger records show his
father being named "Scharye",but my great grandfather's headstone says
Schmarye Rachmil bar Zacharia.

I am confident that this is the same name but I ask for your opinion.

Thanks to all

Steve Morgan
Wilmington NC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Scharye and Zacharia #general

steve morgan <morgansr@...>
 

I think I found the correct passenger record for my great-grandfather,
Schmarye Baron. The records shows the 3 brothers in the family, the age is
right so I guess I am on the right track. The passenger records show his
father being named "Scharye",but my great grandfather's headstone says
Schmarye Rachmil bar Zacharia.

I am confident that this is the same name but I ask for your opinion.

Thanks to all

Steve Morgan
Wilmington NC


Removing Ivies from a Gravesite #general

Jim & Sara Feldman <feldmans@...>
 

Reading about the travails of the group who cleaned up some
grave sites in the Baron Hirsch Cemetery, Staten Island, I must
recommend that you be a little more patient and take advantage of
modern chemistry. All woody plants -- and that includes poison ivy
and English ivy -- can be killed using a good defoliant (weed
killer). There are, if fact, special ones that are particularly
effective on ivies. You spray it on the leaves during growing season
and go away for several weeks. Come back in 3 weeks. If there are
still signs of health in the woody weeds, reapply. Two applications
is normally plenty. It kills the plant and that is the end of it.

Be careful not to do this under trees, since the stuff gets
into the root system and is injurious to the tree. It has no impact
(when used as directed) on grass.

After the ivies have died, you will be left with dead stems
and possibly dead and withered leaves. If this is poison ivy, the
allergenic oils may still be present, so care is called for. But
there will be a lot less "stuff" to remove and, and once cut out, it
will stay removed. If you do not use the defoliant or pull out the
root system (very difficult), you might as well not bother.

Good luck.
Jim

Jim Feldman
Newton, MA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Removing Ivies from a Gravesite #general

Jim & Sara Feldman <feldmans@...>
 

Reading about the travails of the group who cleaned up some
grave sites in the Baron Hirsch Cemetery, Staten Island, I must
recommend that you be a little more patient and take advantage of
modern chemistry. All woody plants -- and that includes poison ivy
and English ivy -- can be killed using a good defoliant (weed
killer). There are, if fact, special ones that are particularly
effective on ivies. You spray it on the leaves during growing season
and go away for several weeks. Come back in 3 weeks. If there are
still signs of health in the woody weeds, reapply. Two applications
is normally plenty. It kills the plant and that is the end of it.

Be careful not to do this under trees, since the stuff gets
into the root system and is injurious to the tree. It has no impact
(when used as directed) on grass.

After the ivies have died, you will be left with dead stems
and possibly dead and withered leaves. If this is poison ivy, the
allergenic oils may still be present, so care is called for. But
there will be a lot less "stuff" to remove and, and once cut out, it
will stay removed. If you do not use the defoliant or pull out the
root system (very difficult), you might as well not bother.

Good luck.
Jim

Jim Feldman
Newton, MA

MODERATOR NOTE: The original thread was closed. This posting provides
information that is useful to subscribers. Any further new information
will be posted. The original Baron Hirsch Cemetery thread remains closed.


Re: Baron Hirsch Cemetery #general

Babette C Bloch <bvcb@...>
 

In addition to the messages that appeared on the list, I reveived more to
my Email address.

For those who are interested, I am keeping a small personal mail list of
those who are interesteded in trying to mount some sort of effort at the
cleanup at Baron Hirsch and will circulate the messatges to all
concerned. Perhaps we can get something going, and those of us who live
outside the NYC area can contribute funds.

What I think we really need are referrals to Jewish groups on Staten
Island who might be interested in helping us.

If we are all out of town, it will be difficult for us to locate even
paid help to do the job.

Babette Bloch
Marin County, California

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed. All further discussion should be
handled privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Baron Hirsch Cemetery #general

Babette C Bloch <bvcb@...>
 

In addition to the messages that appeared on the list, I reveived more to
my Email address.

For those who are interested, I am keeping a small personal mail list of
those who are interesteded in trying to mount some sort of effort at the
cleanup at Baron Hirsch and will circulate the messatges to all
concerned. Perhaps we can get something going, and those of us who live
outside the NYC area can contribute funds.

What I think we really need are referrals to Jewish groups on Staten
Island who might be interested in helping us.

If we are all out of town, it will be difficult for us to locate even
paid help to do the job.

Babette Bloch
Marin County, California

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed. All further discussion should be
handled privately.


Re: Unfamiliar Yiddish first names #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

My great grandmother's name was Bertha, but her
tombstone reads (>from right to left):
bet-yod-lamed-hay (space) chet-yod-hay
That's Beila Chaya. Beila is a Yiddish name , Chayah is Hebrew (but
Beila is not a translation of Chayah, which is the feminine form of Chaim,
meaning "life."

My great aunt's name was Sylvia, her but her tombstone
reads (>from right to left):
hay-bet-tet-vav-lamed-hay (space )zayin-lamed-daled-hay
Actually the first word is not a name. It is the Hebrew word ha-betulah
(meaning, "the virgin") Your great-aunt presumably died unmarried.
(Ha-betulah is the standard way of designating a never-married woman (for
instance, a first-time bride is routinely thus described in the ketubbah).
On your aunt's tombstone, ha-betulah is followed by the name "Zelda"
(which is Yiddish rather than Hebrew).

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unfamiliar Yiddish first names #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

My great grandmother's name was Bertha, but her
tombstone reads (>from right to left):
bet-yod-lamed-hay (space) chet-yod-hay
That's Beila Chaya. Beila is a Yiddish name , Chayah is Hebrew (but
Beila is not a translation of Chayah, which is the feminine form of Chaim,
meaning "life."

My great aunt's name was Sylvia, her but her tombstone
reads (>from right to left):
hay-bet-tet-vav-lamed-hay (space )zayin-lamed-daled-hay
Actually the first word is not a name. It is the Hebrew word ha-betulah
(meaning, "the virgin") Your great-aunt presumably died unmarried.
(Ha-betulah is the standard way of designating a never-married woman (for
instance, a first-time bride is routinely thus described in the ketubbah).
On your aunt's tombstone, ha-betulah is followed by the name "Zelda"
(which is Yiddish rather than Hebrew).

Judith Romney Wegner