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Re: Looking for Brest-Litovsk Records #belarus

Susan M. Rogers <smroger{@...>
 

It would be very helpful to many interested in Brest-Litovsk if you would be
so kind as to reveal how you happened to come across a book on
Brest-Litovsk, which my great grandfather left in 1886.

Also, what is the name of the book and in what language is it? When was it
published? Does it have photos?

Finally, it is customary to list with your surnames researching the places
and guberniyas of origin to be of use to fellow researchers who might
provide input to your own search.

Susan M. Rogers
CousinsPlus Family History Web Page Design Center
New York, NY
http://www.cousinsplus.com
Researching:
UBERSTINE, Ostroshitskiy Gorodok, goberniya Minskaya, Belarus, 1901 to US
SIMON, Brest Litovsk, Grodno goberniya (now Belarus), 1886 to US
POLACZEK, Lida, Lida, Vilna goberniya, now Belarus, 1905 to US
DEUTSCH, Tryskiai [Trishik], Shavli Uyezd, Kovno guberniya, now Lithuania,
1906 to US


Re: "Lapidus" ? (Jewish residence in Kiev) #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In her message of 9-16-00 Eloise Hintersteiner wondered whether the surname
"Lapidus" could be derived >from the area in Kiev known as "Lipid." I don't
think so. For information about the surname Lapidus, Ms. Hintersteiner should
check Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives where, unless I misremember, the
name has been mentioned several times and its meaning or origin described.

Naomi Fatouros
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Looking for Brest-Litovsk Records #belarus

Susan M. Rogers <smroger{@...>
 

It would be very helpful to many interested in Brest-Litovsk if you would be
so kind as to reveal how you happened to come across a book on
Brest-Litovsk, which my great grandfather left in 1886.

Also, what is the name of the book and in what language is it? When was it
published? Does it have photos?

Finally, it is customary to list with your surnames researching the places
and guberniyas of origin to be of use to fellow researchers who might
provide input to your own search.

Susan M. Rogers
CousinsPlus Family History Web Page Design Center
New York, NY
http://www.cousinsplus.com
Researching:
UBERSTINE, Ostroshitskiy Gorodok, goberniya Minskaya, Belarus, 1901 to US
SIMON, Brest Litovsk, Grodno goberniya (now Belarus), 1886 to US
POLACZEK, Lida, Lida, Vilna goberniya, now Belarus, 1905 to US
DEUTSCH, Tryskiai [Trishik], Shavli Uyezd, Kovno guberniya, now Lithuania,
1906 to US


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: "Lapidus" ? (Jewish residence in Kiev) #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In her message of 9-16-00 Eloise Hintersteiner wondered whether the surname
"Lapidus" could be derived >from the area in Kiev known as "Lipid." I don't
think so. For information about the surname Lapidus, Ms. Hintersteiner should
check Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives where, unless I misremember, the
name has been mentioned several times and its meaning or origin described.

Naomi Fatouros
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse.


Re: Ukraine SIG #ukraine

Howard M. Kaplan <howardmk@...>
 

Jackye Sullins may be partly right, but her relatives may have been in
the army later on. My great Uncle Gedalia Leib Kaplan served in the
czar's army for nearly 8 years (drafted after his bar mitzvah and in
until he was 21!!). When recalled to serve in the Russo-Japanese war,
he LEFT (with the financial aid of the balance of the family) to
Canada, later to Minnesota. Once here, he repaid the rest of the
family by bringing the entire mishpacha out of the Ukraine. But he
NEVER said they lived IN Kiev. (Howard Kaplan)
* * * * *

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jackye@...>
To: "Ukraine SIG" <ukraine@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Ukraine SIG



Jews were allowed to live in Kiev if someone in their family served
in the
tsar's army. Many of my relatives came >from Kiev and St.
Petersburg.

Jackye Sullins

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard M. Kaplan <howardmk@...>
To: Ukraine SIG <ukraine@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Ukraine SIG

... I've been
puzzled by references to Zhitomir, Radomyschl, Lugin, etc. by
various
(all now deceased!) family ancestors. One even said the clan came
from
Kiev, but I learned later that any Jews found INSIDE Kiev's walls
after sundown was as good as dead. Now I hope to learn exactly
WHERE
the Kaplan clan originated -- and with whom. Howard M. Kaplan,
Colorado


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ukraine SIG #ukraine

Howard M. Kaplan <howardmk@...>
 

Jackye Sullins may be partly right, but her relatives may have been in
the army later on. My great Uncle Gedalia Leib Kaplan served in the
czar's army for nearly 8 years (drafted after his bar mitzvah and in
until he was 21!!). When recalled to serve in the Russo-Japanese war,
he LEFT (with the financial aid of the balance of the family) to
Canada, later to Minnesota. Once here, he repaid the rest of the
family by bringing the entire mishpacha out of the Ukraine. But he
NEVER said they lived IN Kiev. (Howard Kaplan)
* * * * *

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jackye@...>
To: "Ukraine SIG" <ukraine@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Ukraine SIG



Jews were allowed to live in Kiev if someone in their family served
in the
tsar's army. Many of my relatives came >from Kiev and St.
Petersburg.

Jackye Sullins

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard M. Kaplan <howardmk@...>
To: Ukraine SIG <ukraine@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: Ukraine SIG

... I've been
puzzled by references to Zhitomir, Radomyschl, Lugin, etc. by
various
(all now deceased!) family ancestors. One even said the clan came
from
Kiev, but I learned later that any Jews found INSIDE Kiev's walls
after sundown was as good as dead. Now I hope to learn exactly
WHERE
the Kaplan clan originated -- and with whom. Howard M. Kaplan,
Colorado


searching names: Preluki Poltavska Gubernia #ukraine

RMJaspan@...
 

Hi-
I am searching these names >from Preluki. They were related to Yashpan family
from Kovno Gubernia in Lithuania. Please respond privately.
Thank you. Randi Jaspan, New Jersey

YASPAN/YASHPAN and MALAG (or possibly MALAGA OR MALAGI)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine searching names: Preluki Poltavska Gubernia #ukraine

RMJaspan@...
 

Hi-
I am searching these names >from Preluki. They were related to Yashpan family
from Kovno Gubernia in Lithuania. Please respond privately.
Thank you. Randi Jaspan, New Jersey

YASPAN/YASHPAN and MALAG (or possibly MALAGA OR MALAGI)


Ukraine SIG #ukraine

Joan Rosen <jrosen@...>
 

snip (personal)<
I am looking for information about a family named Krasne that immigrated to
the Phila. area sometime in the 1890s. It is not my family, but that of my
grandfather's second wife, and I am not doing research on this family with
any intensity at all--mainly doing it for a (half)-cousin who is a direct
descendant of these Krasne's. (Pronounced Krasny, incidentally). I have
not come across any immigration information nor do I have any indication of
where they came from, or whether their name was really Krasne or something
longer. The original immigrant would have been Hyman Krasne. His wife was
Lena, although I do not know whether they were married before or after they
came here. They had 6 children...Isadore, Bertha, Harry, Sadie, Celia, and
Fanny, in approximately that order. (I know this much because I actually
knew all of them!) I believe all of their children were born here (certainly
Bertha was and she was definitely the second oldest.) Other info: they left
this area and went to Calif. early in the 1920s, and one of their children
(Celia) was deaf >from birth--whether genetic or due to a problem during
pregnancy I cannot say.

Do you by any chance know anything about a Hyman Krasne? (No, I have not
entered this name in JGFF because I am really not actively researching
them!)

Joan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joan Rosen
jrosen@...
Elkins Park, Pa (outside Philadelphia)

----- Original Message -----
From: <GojuMom@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: A welcome addition

JoAnne Vanett
Ambler PA
HOSSMAN, GOMBERG, KRASNEY.....all in the Kiev-Podolia area


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine SIG #ukraine

Joan Rosen <jrosen@...>
 

snip (personal)<
I am looking for information about a family named Krasne that immigrated to
the Phila. area sometime in the 1890s. It is not my family, but that of my
grandfather's second wife, and I am not doing research on this family with
any intensity at all--mainly doing it for a (half)-cousin who is a direct
descendant of these Krasne's. (Pronounced Krasny, incidentally). I have
not come across any immigration information nor do I have any indication of
where they came from, or whether their name was really Krasne or something
longer. The original immigrant would have been Hyman Krasne. His wife was
Lena, although I do not know whether they were married before or after they
came here. They had 6 children...Isadore, Bertha, Harry, Sadie, Celia, and
Fanny, in approximately that order. (I know this much because I actually
knew all of them!) I believe all of their children were born here (certainly
Bertha was and she was definitely the second oldest.) Other info: they left
this area and went to Calif. early in the 1920s, and one of their children
(Celia) was deaf >from birth--whether genetic or due to a problem during
pregnancy I cannot say.

Do you by any chance know anything about a Hyman Krasne? (No, I have not
entered this name in JGFF because I am really not actively researching
them!)

Joan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joan Rosen
jrosen@...
Elkins Park, Pa (outside Philadelphia)

----- Original Message -----
From: <GojuMom@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: A welcome addition

JoAnne Vanett
Ambler PA
HOSSMAN, GOMBERG, KRASNEY.....all in the Kiev-Podolia area


Ukraine Sig. #ukraine

EHecht4085@...
 

Let me add my two cents as well. Have read the welcome mails >from viewers and
agree this is a neglected area. So far I have been working on my paternal
side which originates in Galicia and have had no luck with the shtetl of
Rusow(Rusov) not far >from Czernowitz. Now my maternal side came >from Kiev
Gubernia, the shtetl is Belaya-Yzerkov, about 70kms SW of Kiev. Their name
was Rosenkrantz, and the name does not appear too many times. My mgfather
took the whole family to the US in 1909, leaving >from Antwerp and came on the
ship Vaderland(Red Star LIne) ave not yet found the ships manifest fro this
date. My father came >from Rusow, on the same shi[p in 1910 and I have his
ships manifest. Just lucky.
Anyway, trying to find family of the Rosenkrantz tribe. The gfather was
Israel and his wife was Mechly(Mary). They had Chana, Chaya, Dovid, Yussel
and Yaacov. Any information out there would be greatly appreciated.
Wifes family came >from Krasne, Kamanetz-Podolsk. The name was Vinnitsky, but
changed to Weiner when they came here. Came in two shifts, two brothers and a
sister came prior to WWI, and the rest came in 1922 due to two brothers who
served in US Army during WWI. Father of all was Mordke and wife was Liouba.
They owned or managed a factory in Krasne. Again, any information would be
appreciated.


ELi C. Hecht
ehecht@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine Sig. #ukraine

EHecht4085@...
 

Let me add my two cents as well. Have read the welcome mails >from viewers and
agree this is a neglected area. So far I have been working on my paternal
side which originates in Galicia and have had no luck with the shtetl of
Rusow(Rusov) not far >from Czernowitz. Now my maternal side came >from Kiev
Gubernia, the shtetl is Belaya-Yzerkov, about 70kms SW of Kiev. Their name
was Rosenkrantz, and the name does not appear too many times. My mgfather
took the whole family to the US in 1909, leaving >from Antwerp and came on the
ship Vaderland(Red Star LIne) ave not yet found the ships manifest fro this
date. My father came >from Rusow, on the same shi[p in 1910 and I have his
ships manifest. Just lucky.
Anyway, trying to find family of the Rosenkrantz tribe. The gfather was
Israel and his wife was Mechly(Mary). They had Chana, Chaya, Dovid, Yussel
and Yaacov. Any information out there would be greatly appreciated.
Wifes family came >from Krasne, Kamanetz-Podolsk. The name was Vinnitsky, but
changed to Weiner when they came here. Came in two shifts, two brothers and a
sister came prior to WWI, and the rest came in 1922 due to two brothers who
served in US Army during WWI. Father of all was Mordke and wife was Liouba.
They owned or managed a factory in Krasne. Again, any information would be
appreciated.


ELi C. Hecht
ehecht@...


Re: Researching Korostyshev, Zhitomir, Tarascha, Uman #ukraine

SOkun1@...
 

My relatives were named Korostoshevsky, and were >from the town of Koshovata,
which was very close to the town of Tarascha (Taraschta?). I wonder if you
know the connection between the town and the name?

Susan Korostoff Okun


SIPERSTEIN - Orinin, Kamenets-Podolsk #ukraine

haflo <haflo@...>
 

X-From_: bbrazy@... Fri Sep 15 22:29:20 2000
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:29:21 -0700
From: Betsy Brazy <bbrazy@...>

This is being posted on behalf of Betsy Brazy who was unable to post it
herself.

One of my surname researches is my maternal grandmother's branch, the
SIPERSTEINs of Pinsk. Yesterday I received email >from a woman, Suzy, in
Israel asking whether we might be related, as she knows of no other
SIPERSTEINs in Israel. I learned >from her note that she was >from Hotin
Basarabia and survived - along with her brother and parents - concentration
camps in the Ukraine.

Now, I didn't know where Hotin Basarabia was, and the JewishGen
shtetlseeker database was unavailable. But I know 2 other SIPERSTEIN
researchers thanks to the Jewish Gen Family Finder, and one of them traces
family >from Orinin, near Kamenets-Podolsk, Ukraine. While the exact lines
still need to be traced, it seems that Suzy now has many cousins.

Interestingly, she found me with http://www.google.com search engine for
"SIPERSTEIN" because I have a family history website. I'm glad that I've
also registered in the JGFF database.

Betsy BRAZY
Alameda, California USA

Researching: SIPERSTEIN of Pinsk (Belarus); DRAIKIN of Kherson (Ukraine);
BRAZY of Poland/Lithuania/Belarus; HURWICH of Kaunas, Lithuania


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Researching Korostyshev, Zhitomir, Tarascha, Uman #ukraine

SOkun1@...
 

My relatives were named Korostoshevsky, and were >from the town of Koshovata,
which was very close to the town of Tarascha (Taraschta?). I wonder if you
know the connection between the town and the name?

Susan Korostoff Okun


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine SIPERSTEIN - Orinin, Kamenets-Podolsk #ukraine

haflo <haflo@...>
 

X-From_: bbrazy@... Fri Sep 15 22:29:20 2000
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:29:21 -0700
From: Betsy Brazy <bbrazy@...>

This is being posted on behalf of Betsy Brazy who was unable to post it
herself.

One of my surname researches is my maternal grandmother's branch, the
SIPERSTEINs of Pinsk. Yesterday I received email >from a woman, Suzy, in
Israel asking whether we might be related, as she knows of no other
SIPERSTEINs in Israel. I learned >from her note that she was >from Hotin
Basarabia and survived - along with her brother and parents - concentration
camps in the Ukraine.

Now, I didn't know where Hotin Basarabia was, and the JewishGen
shtetlseeker database was unavailable. But I know 2 other SIPERSTEIN
researchers thanks to the Jewish Gen Family Finder, and one of them traces
family >from Orinin, near Kamenets-Podolsk, Ukraine. While the exact lines
still need to be traced, it seems that Suzy now has many cousins.

Interestingly, she found me with http://www.google.com search engine for
"SIPERSTEIN" because I have a family history website. I'm glad that I've
also registered in the JGFF database.

Betsy BRAZY
Alameda, California USA

Researching: SIPERSTEIN of Pinsk (Belarus); DRAIKIN of Kherson (Ukraine);
BRAZY of Poland/Lithuania/Belarus; HURWICH of Kaunas, Lithuania


ukraine to philly #ukraine

Robert W. Rosenthal <rosentha@...>
 

Fellow Ukraine researchers:

All eight of my ggp's emigrated >from Ukraine as married adults and settled
in Philadelphia around 1890. Fairly complete information on their
descendents is available. Here is what I think I know about their sibs,
their ancestors, and themselves. Any additions or corrections would be
appreciated.

1. Mayer WERNICK >from Kiev region. Born in 1857. Was a grocer in Phila. Son
of Rav Abraham Hanan Wernick. Had a possible sister Bessie (Brucha)
SMOLENSKI. Possibly another named Raizel YUROVSKY; and possibly others
named Anna, Vitt'l, and Rachel.

2. Pess'l KRASNOV (or KRAUSS) Wernick >from Stepansy (Stepanitz). Born 1857.
Parents were probably Mordechai and Rebecca KOMARNITSY Krasnov. If so,
Pess'l's sibs were: Baruch Leib, Hinde, Zhata LISHINSKY, Hassie LINETSKY,
Malya KLEVANSKY, Toiba WIENGRONOWITZ, and Mind'l KRAMAROV. Rebecca
KOMARNITSY Krasnov's sibs were Abraham and Itzhak.

3. Louis OISTATCHER (or OSTEICHER, EISTATCHER, etc.). Born 1868 in
Berdichev. Son of Velvul and grandson of Berel >from Kazatin. Was a merchant
in Phila. Louis's sibs were Joseph TATCHER and Shifra.

4. Leah (Lena) BERTINSKY (or BEHRTAN) Oistatcher. Born 1863 in Polonnoye.
Daughter of Abash and Hannah-Sura. Sibs were Fischel, Nathan, Samuel,
Raisel LIPSHITZ, and Aron.

5. Solomon ROSENTHAL >from Kiev region. Born approx. 1854. Son of Yehuda
Laib. May have had a sister who married a man named Weiner.

6. Lena ? Rosenthal. Born approx 1871 in Kiev region.

7. Oser (Herman) GROSS >from Ulodofka. Born 1860(?). Was a grocer in Phila.
Brother Harry was known as "the Vetter". Parents were Samuel and Brondel
MORGALOW, who changed their name to Gross to avoid conscription.

8. Rebecca SPITALNY Gross >from Uladofka. Born 1861? Rebecca's sibs names
were all changed to Gross upon immigration. They were Anna LIPSHUTZ, Bessie
LIPSHUTZ (a case of sisters marrying brothers), Becky DAVIDOW, Cheel,
Chaika, Willy, Rose and Esther ALTOIZ (later remarried to a man named
COOPERSMITH). Rebecca's parents were Morris Spitalny and Lizzie (Hannah
Leah) Altoiz Spitalny. Lizzie also immigrated late in life. Her parents
were Israel Abraham and Annie Altoiz >from Korolevka.

Robert W. Rosenthal


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine ukraine to philly #ukraine

Robert W. Rosenthal <rosentha@...>
 

Fellow Ukraine researchers:

All eight of my ggp's emigrated >from Ukraine as married adults and settled
in Philadelphia around 1890. Fairly complete information on their
descendents is available. Here is what I think I know about their sibs,
their ancestors, and themselves. Any additions or corrections would be
appreciated.

1. Mayer WERNICK >from Kiev region. Born in 1857. Was a grocer in Phila. Son
of Rav Abraham Hanan Wernick. Had a possible sister Bessie (Brucha)
SMOLENSKI. Possibly another named Raizel YUROVSKY; and possibly others
named Anna, Vitt'l, and Rachel.

2. Pess'l KRASNOV (or KRAUSS) Wernick >from Stepansy (Stepanitz). Born 1857.
Parents were probably Mordechai and Rebecca KOMARNITSY Krasnov. If so,
Pess'l's sibs were: Baruch Leib, Hinde, Zhata LISHINSKY, Hassie LINETSKY,
Malya KLEVANSKY, Toiba WIENGRONOWITZ, and Mind'l KRAMAROV. Rebecca
KOMARNITSY Krasnov's sibs were Abraham and Itzhak.

3. Louis OISTATCHER (or OSTEICHER, EISTATCHER, etc.). Born 1868 in
Berdichev. Son of Velvul and grandson of Berel >from Kazatin. Was a merchant
in Phila. Louis's sibs were Joseph TATCHER and Shifra.

4. Leah (Lena) BERTINSKY (or BEHRTAN) Oistatcher. Born 1863 in Polonnoye.
Daughter of Abash and Hannah-Sura. Sibs were Fischel, Nathan, Samuel,
Raisel LIPSHITZ, and Aron.

5. Solomon ROSENTHAL >from Kiev region. Born approx. 1854. Son of Yehuda
Laib. May have had a sister who married a man named Weiner.

6. Lena ? Rosenthal. Born approx 1871 in Kiev region.

7. Oser (Herman) GROSS >from Ulodofka. Born 1860(?). Was a grocer in Phila.
Brother Harry was known as "the Vetter". Parents were Samuel and Brondel
MORGALOW, who changed their name to Gross to avoid conscription.

8. Rebecca SPITALNY Gross >from Uladofka. Born 1861? Rebecca's sibs names
were all changed to Gross upon immigration. They were Anna LIPSHUTZ, Bessie
LIPSHUTZ (a case of sisters marrying brothers), Becky DAVIDOW, Cheel,
Chaika, Willy, Rose and Esther ALTOIZ (later remarried to a man named
COOPERSMITH). Rebecca's parents were Morris Spitalny and Lizzie (Hannah
Leah) Altoiz Spitalny. Lizzie also immigrated late in life. Her parents
were Israel Abraham and Annie Altoiz >from Korolevka.

Robert W. Rosenthal


Re: A welcome addition #ukraine

Martin Gomberg <martin@...>
 

My father's father Yacob Lieb Gomberg was born in England while his parents
were visiting >from Russia in late 1890's. This meant he had British
citizenship. My father Heiem Gomberg was born in Russia with British
citizenship and had his birth registered at the British Consulate in
Pervomaysk in 1923. In 1924 the family Yacob, his wife Dina (nee Gzebmacher)
and son Heiem left Russia and settled in London. My grandmother's family
Gzebmacher remained in Kovel. While I have some information about her side
of the family, I know nothing about my grandfather Gomberg's side of the
family. I do have his student union card dated 1918 for the Imperial
(crossed out) University in Estonia where his name in Russian script sounds
like Heiemovitch, so presumably my father's father's father was called Heiem
too.

Martin Gomberg
Wolverhampton, England

Searching: GOMBERG, GZEBMACHER (Kovel), HIRSH, SHUB (Kovel)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: A welcome addition #ukraine

Martin Gomberg <martin@...>
 

My father's father Yacob Lieb Gomberg was born in England while his parents
were visiting >from Russia in late 1890's. This meant he had British
citizenship. My father Heiem Gomberg was born in Russia with British
citizenship and had his birth registered at the British Consulate in
Pervomaysk in 1923. In 1924 the family Yacob, his wife Dina (nee Gzebmacher)
and son Heiem left Russia and settled in London. My grandmother's family
Gzebmacher remained in Kovel. While I have some information about her side
of the family, I know nothing about my grandfather Gomberg's side of the
family. I do have his student union card dated 1918 for the Imperial
(crossed out) University in Estonia where his name in Russian script sounds
like Heiemovitch, so presumably my father's father's father was called Heiem
too.

Martin Gomberg
Wolverhampton, England

Searching: GOMBERG, GZEBMACHER (Kovel), HIRSH, SHUB (Kovel)