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Laca - Masculine or Feminine Given Name? #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

OK Guys:

I asked for help and now that I got it, I'm even more confused than
before. Six of you responded to my initial question regarding the
gender of the given name Laca. So far that sounds pretty good, right?

Well, it seems that three of you told me that Laca is a masculine
given name, and three of you told me that Laca is a feminine name
(Leah).

Who do I believe? Please, would someone know a definitive answer to
this one?

Ricki Zunk
Kendall, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Laca - Masculine or Feminine Given Name? #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

OK Guys:

I asked for help and now that I got it, I'm even more confused than
before. Six of you responded to my initial question regarding the
gender of the given name Laca. So far that sounds pretty good, right?

Well, it seems that three of you told me that Laca is a masculine
given name, and three of you told me that Laca is a feminine name
(Leah).

Who do I believe? Please, would someone know a definitive answer to
this one?

Ricki Zunk
Kendall, FL


Radauti and Sadgura, Bukovina ShtetLinks Pages updated #general

Bruce Reisch <bir1@...>
 

The Radauti (Romania) and Sadgura (Ukraine) Shtetlinks pages
(addresses below) have just been updated. A new database has been
added for Radauti - list of burials at Mt. Zion Cemetery (Queens, New
York), Radauti Landsmanschaft plots. Along with the list are several
photos of the two burial plots at Mt. Zion.

In addition, the list of "Searchable Databases" on both pages have
been updated to give direct and more convenient access to the several
databases now available through JewishGen and other web servers.
Some of these data sets cover all of Bukovina.

Bruce Reisch
Geneva, New York

Radautz: http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/radauti/radautz.html
Sadgura: http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/sadgura/sadgura.html

Researching: REISCH, SCHECHTER, FEUERSTEIN - Sadgura, Bukowina, Ukraine
SCHACHTER, BRUCKER/BRUKER, HALPERN - Radauti, Bukowina, Romania
BRUCKER/BRUKER - Solca, Bukowina, Romania
WEISSMAN - Brody, Galicia, Ukraine SCHACHTER - Okup, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Radauti and Sadgura, Bukovina ShtetLinks Pages updated #general

Bruce Reisch <bir1@...>
 

The Radauti (Romania) and Sadgura (Ukraine) Shtetlinks pages
(addresses below) have just been updated. A new database has been
added for Radauti - list of burials at Mt. Zion Cemetery (Queens, New
York), Radauti Landsmanschaft plots. Along with the list are several
photos of the two burial plots at Mt. Zion.

In addition, the list of "Searchable Databases" on both pages have
been updated to give direct and more convenient access to the several
databases now available through JewishGen and other web servers.
Some of these data sets cover all of Bukovina.

Bruce Reisch
Geneva, New York

Radautz: http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/radauti/radautz.html
Sadgura: http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/sadgura/sadgura.html

Researching: REISCH, SCHECHTER, FEUERSTEIN - Sadgura, Bukowina, Ukraine
SCHACHTER, BRUCKER/BRUKER, HALPERN - Radauti, Bukowina, Romania
BRUCKER/BRUKER - Solca, Bukowina, Romania
WEISSMAN - Brody, Galicia, Ukraine SCHACHTER - Okup, Ukraine


Re: Chomsk- what Gubernia? #belarus

Mike Posnick
 

With all due respect to the Moderator, Chomsk is located in Kobrin uezd of
the former Grodno guberniya. It is approximately half-way between Brest
and Pinsk, just north of Drogichin.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@...


In a message dated 14 Sep 2000, Sheila Israel Lobel wrote:

Does anyone know anything about a place called Chomsk and what Gubernia it
might have been in? I have recently been made aware that this location may
have been where my grandparents came from, but I can't find anything more
about it than a location on a map. Thank you in advance for your help.

Sheila Israel Lobel
New York


Moderator Note: Go to the Shtetls of Belarus webpage
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/Shtetls/Belarus.htm.
Choimetz looks to be the closest to Chomsk. If it is,
the shtetl is in Minsk gubernia


Re: belarus digest: September 14, 2000 #belarus

Plutsk@...
 

In a message dated 09/15/2000 1:10:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Myra Davis
writes:

I think David Fox's story is just wonderful! It brings tears to my eyes.
However I have just had the opposite experience. I have a half brother
{snip] We finally have had a cordial relationship via e-mail. [snip] I then
sent the new...
info to a cousin living in FL who has been working on his side of the
family tree. I have never met this man but we have has a wonderful
connection through the Jewish Family Finder. My great grandfather had
one sister and he is descended >from the sister. [snip] My brother then
wrote to me quite upset
that he got this letter >from a STRANGER. He did not intend for me to
give out any of his personal data to STRANGERS. I wrote him back and
told his exactly how we are related to this man in FL. and that he is not
really a stranger but a cousin. My brother wrote me back and said he
does not feel comfortable with this and would like for me to delete him
>from the family tree. He said he thought it was just for my personal
use. [snip] The funny thing is this cousin in FL got my brothers address
from
the Internet so he is not gaining any thing by hiding >from not being on
the tree. This has been a real disappointment to me.
It would be a real disappointment to me or to any of us, Myra, and we all
sympathize. It raises a subject thread well worth discussing (in fact, it's
much discussed in the issue of "Avotaynu" that arrived at my home a few days
ago): genealogy and ethics.

I think that IN GENERAL it's unreasonable for someone to expect their very
existence to be denied or hidden, though I can imagine circumstances (fear of
personal or political persecution, etc.) in which at least for a period of
time the ethical thing to do would be to make that information unavailable to
others. To "delete" someone >from the family tree itself -- as opposed to the
dissemination of that information -- is an act of intellectual dishonesty, in
my opinion.

I put now-divorced former spouses of my cousins on my tree, even if they had
no children, because marriage is a significant and legal relationship with
potential implications both legal (maybe there WAS a child you don't know
about, for example, or a question about inheritances) and emotional. I've
been criticized, in good humor and not, by my cousins for including the names
of people they in some cases loathe, but I can't help it -- they married whom
they married, and that event gets recorded (along with the fact of the
divorce which ended the person's legal connection to the family, of course).

However, people also have a right to privacy. Your brother does have a right
to reject contact >from others, however disappointed you or others may be by
his decision. Your brother can throw away U.S. mail, opened or unopened, and
delete e-mail opened or unopened, He can maintain an unlisted phone number
(it's my understanding that about 50% of all residential phone numbers are
now unlisted) and can screen calls which do come in via answering machines,
Caller ID, and other methods. He can hang up on anyone whose calls do get
through. He can close his door in the faces of those who come to call if he
so chooses, order them off his property, and enforce his isolation under law.
These and similar actions are all under his control and should be, as I see
things, however saddening, galling, or contrary to his best interests, or
even self-destructive they may be.

What about your actions, or anyone in a similar situation? I think it would
be rude, though not unethical, to pass along address, phone number, and
similar information which is publicly available anyway. I think it would be
unethical to pass along information (for example, exact age, medical
conditions, location of minor children) which is not publicly available and
which was given to you in confidence. If you're not sure if information is
confidential or not, you should treat it as such. If you're getting it >from
the person him/herself, you should take the opportunity to ask if you can
share it.

OK, that's my starting point! Other views?

Steve Gold
Detroit area


Re: Vasilishok, Lida Uezd #belarus

Jrbaston
 

From: "Gerre D. Wade" <GerreWade@...>

<<My grandfather always said he was >from Vasilishok, a province of
Vilna, in Lithuania.....I assumed that he was
>from the Vasilishok (5347 2451) that is now in Belarus,
especially because most of the family is >from Grodno. But there
is a Vasilishok in Lithuania in the Kaunas Guberniya.
..... Which is correct? >>

If I remember right, Gerre once wrote that she was researching the RASHBAUM
family. Three years ago, I visited Vasilishki in the Lida District along with
a member of the RASHBAUM family, whose ancestors had come >from that shtetl.

I think you can be pretty sure that's the right place.

Judy Baston
San Francisco, CA
JRBaston@...


Brest, Belarus cemetery picture #belarus

Edward Rosenbaum <elr228@...>
 

The Belarus SIG has recently posted a 1915 picture of the Brest cemetery at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/Shtetls/pictures/brest_cemetery.jpg. Could
some kind JewishGenner translate the headstones that are visible in the
picture.

Thank you very much.

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://www.crosswinds.nett/~erosenbaum/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Chomsk- what Gubernia? #belarus

Mike Posnick
 

With all due respect to the Moderator, Chomsk is located in Kobrin uezd of
the former Grodno guberniya. It is approximately half-way between Brest
and Pinsk, just north of Drogichin.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@...


In a message dated 14 Sep 2000, Sheila Israel Lobel wrote:

Does anyone know anything about a place called Chomsk and what Gubernia it
might have been in? I have recently been made aware that this location may
have been where my grandparents came from, but I can't find anything more
about it than a location on a map. Thank you in advance for your help.

Sheila Israel Lobel
New York


Moderator Note: Go to the Shtetls of Belarus webpage
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/Shtetls/Belarus.htm.
Choimetz looks to be the closest to Chomsk. If it is,
the shtetl is in Minsk gubernia


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: belarus digest: September 14, 2000 #belarus

Plutsk@...
 

In a message dated 09/15/2000 1:10:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Myra Davis
writes:

I think David Fox's story is just wonderful! It brings tears to my eyes.
However I have just had the opposite experience. I have a half brother
{snip] We finally have had a cordial relationship via e-mail. [snip] I then
sent the new...
info to a cousin living in FL who has been working on his side of the
family tree. I have never met this man but we have has a wonderful
connection through the Jewish Family Finder. My great grandfather had
one sister and he is descended >from the sister. [snip] My brother then
wrote to me quite upset
that he got this letter >from a STRANGER. He did not intend for me to
give out any of his personal data to STRANGERS. I wrote him back and
told his exactly how we are related to this man in FL. and that he is not
really a stranger but a cousin. My brother wrote me back and said he
does not feel comfortable with this and would like for me to delete him
>from the family tree. He said he thought it was just for my personal
use. [snip] The funny thing is this cousin in FL got my brothers address
from
the Internet so he is not gaining any thing by hiding >from not being on
the tree. This has been a real disappointment to me.
It would be a real disappointment to me or to any of us, Myra, and we all
sympathize. It raises a subject thread well worth discussing (in fact, it's
much discussed in the issue of "Avotaynu" that arrived at my home a few days
ago): genealogy and ethics.

I think that IN GENERAL it's unreasonable for someone to expect their very
existence to be denied or hidden, though I can imagine circumstances (fear of
personal or political persecution, etc.) in which at least for a period of
time the ethical thing to do would be to make that information unavailable to
others. To "delete" someone >from the family tree itself -- as opposed to the
dissemination of that information -- is an act of intellectual dishonesty, in
my opinion.

I put now-divorced former spouses of my cousins on my tree, even if they had
no children, because marriage is a significant and legal relationship with
potential implications both legal (maybe there WAS a child you don't know
about, for example, or a question about inheritances) and emotional. I've
been criticized, in good humor and not, by my cousins for including the names
of people they in some cases loathe, but I can't help it -- they married whom
they married, and that event gets recorded (along with the fact of the
divorce which ended the person's legal connection to the family, of course).

However, people also have a right to privacy. Your brother does have a right
to reject contact >from others, however disappointed you or others may be by
his decision. Your brother can throw away U.S. mail, opened or unopened, and
delete e-mail opened or unopened, He can maintain an unlisted phone number
(it's my understanding that about 50% of all residential phone numbers are
now unlisted) and can screen calls which do come in via answering machines,
Caller ID, and other methods. He can hang up on anyone whose calls do get
through. He can close his door in the faces of those who come to call if he
so chooses, order them off his property, and enforce his isolation under law.
These and similar actions are all under his control and should be, as I see
things, however saddening, galling, or contrary to his best interests, or
even self-destructive they may be.

What about your actions, or anyone in a similar situation? I think it would
be rude, though not unethical, to pass along address, phone number, and
similar information which is publicly available anyway. I think it would be
unethical to pass along information (for example, exact age, medical
conditions, location of minor children) which is not publicly available and
which was given to you in confidence. If you're not sure if information is
confidential or not, you should treat it as such. If you're getting it >from
the person him/herself, you should take the opportunity to ask if you can
share it.

OK, that's my starting point! Other views?

Steve Gold
Detroit area


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Vasilishok, Lida Uezd #belarus

Jrbaston
 

From: "Gerre D. Wade" <GerreWade@...>

<<My grandfather always said he was >from Vasilishok, a province of
Vilna, in Lithuania.....I assumed that he was
>from the Vasilishok (5347 2451) that is now in Belarus,
especially because most of the family is >from Grodno. But there
is a Vasilishok in Lithuania in the Kaunas Guberniya.
..... Which is correct? >>

If I remember right, Gerre once wrote that she was researching the RASHBAUM
family. Three years ago, I visited Vasilishki in the Lida District along with
a member of the RASHBAUM family, whose ancestors had come >from that shtetl.

I think you can be pretty sure that's the right place.

Judy Baston
San Francisco, CA
JRBaston@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest, Belarus cemetery picture #belarus

Edward Rosenbaum <elr228@...>
 

The Belarus SIG has recently posted a 1915 picture of the Brest cemetery at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/Shtetls/pictures/brest_cemetery.jpg. Could
some kind JewishGenner translate the headstones that are visible in the
picture.

Thank you very much.

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://www.crosswinds.nett/~erosenbaum/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@...


Exhibit -- The Jews of South Philadelphia #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

The following has been announced on the Scout Report:

Still Home: The Jews of South Philadelphia [RealPlayer]
http://nmajh.org/exhibitions/stillhome/index.htm

It is about the community that used to thrive there and now consists of
about 400 elderly Jews.

Anita Citron
anitac1@...
Hicksville, NY
NADWORNY, SILVER, FLEISHER, , NADWORNEY (St.Petersburg)
BENDERSKY (Ladyzhin/Odessa),ODESSKY(Lipovets/Odessa),
NEPOMNYATSHY(Voznesensk/Odessa) TRACHTENBERG(Gritsev/Odessa/Vienna),
FURMAN (Pyatkovko/Odessa),
FINGERHUT/FINGERET (Ananyev/Voznesensk/Odessa)
MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Exhibit -- The Jews of South Philadelphia #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

The following has been announced on the Scout Report:

Still Home: The Jews of South Philadelphia [RealPlayer]
http://nmajh.org/exhibitions/stillhome/index.htm

It is about the community that used to thrive there and now consists of
about 400 elderly Jews.

Anita Citron
anitac1@...
Hicksville, NY
NADWORNY, SILVER, FLEISHER, , NADWORNEY (St.Petersburg)
BENDERSKY (Ladyzhin/Odessa),ODESSKY(Lipovets/Odessa),
NEPOMNYATSHY(Voznesensk/Odessa) TRACHTENBERG(Gritsev/Odessa/Vienna),
FURMAN (Pyatkovko/Odessa),
FINGERHUT/FINGERET (Ananyev/Voznesensk/Odessa)
MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


Re: Jewish Ancestry--on the origin of "Jewish" names #general

MBernet@...
 

My comments on the unexpected origins of some Jewish names seems to have
caused quite a few confusions (on-list and off), specifically my comments
on the popular attribution of the origin of the name Feivush to Phoebus,
and of Faygele to "little bird." I am answering here to clear up those
confusions

I'm not doubting that many people got the name Faygele because their folks
wanted to call them after a little bird, or that many people who were
called Feivush etc had the Hebrew name Uri, or Me'ir or the Aramaic name
Shraga, or took Phoebus as their "non-Jewish" name.

I was discussing the *origin* of the use of names like Feivush (from
French Vives for Chaim) and Faygele (>from German Feilchen, German for
Violet), not what the name has come to connote today.

Sure, once the names had become popular, people accepted the
other "popular" meaning--but whetever their meaning today, they crept into
usage among Jews >from long ago and >from quite a different direction, and
it is worth knowing this. Phoebus was a name given to Feivush because
that's what people thought was the "correct" secular form. Faygele is now
rendered Tzipporah or Tzippi in Hebrew.

Knowing how a name undergoes change is valuable in genealogy. To know that
our Phoebus is the grandson of Shraga who is the grandson of Faivush who
is the grandson of Vives who is the grandson of Vitale or Vivian who is
the grandson of Chaim adds both fun and knowledge to the exploration of
our ancestry. Incidentally, Vives is rarely found among Ashkenazim after
1600, and Phoebus is rarely found before 1600. Phoebus is to Faivush, in
effect, as Myron is to Me'ir, an acceptable sound-alike among the non-
Jewish names of the region. It wouldn't at all surprise me to discover
that some of the Merons in Israel changed their name >from Myron which was
an adaptation . . .

For anyone who wants to learn more on this topic, I suggest you read
Chapter 6 in Kaganoff's "A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their History,"
especially pp 56-57 where the origins of Faivush-Phoebus are discussed in
a (to me) very convincing manner.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Ancestry--on the origin of "Jewish" names #general

MBernet@...
 

My comments on the unexpected origins of some Jewish names seems to have
caused quite a few confusions (on-list and off), specifically my comments
on the popular attribution of the origin of the name Feivush to Phoebus,
and of Faygele to "little bird." I am answering here to clear up those
confusions

I'm not doubting that many people got the name Faygele because their folks
wanted to call them after a little bird, or that many people who were
called Feivush etc had the Hebrew name Uri, or Me'ir or the Aramaic name
Shraga, or took Phoebus as their "non-Jewish" name.

I was discussing the *origin* of the use of names like Feivush (from
French Vives for Chaim) and Faygele (>from German Feilchen, German for
Violet), not what the name has come to connote today.

Sure, once the names had become popular, people accepted the
other "popular" meaning--but whetever their meaning today, they crept into
usage among Jews >from long ago and >from quite a different direction, and
it is worth knowing this. Phoebus was a name given to Feivush because
that's what people thought was the "correct" secular form. Faygele is now
rendered Tzipporah or Tzippi in Hebrew.

Knowing how a name undergoes change is valuable in genealogy. To know that
our Phoebus is the grandson of Shraga who is the grandson of Faivush who
is the grandson of Vives who is the grandson of Vitale or Vivian who is
the grandson of Chaim adds both fun and knowledge to the exploration of
our ancestry. Incidentally, Vives is rarely found among Ashkenazim after
1600, and Phoebus is rarely found before 1600. Phoebus is to Faivush, in
effect, as Myron is to Me'ir, an acceptable sound-alike among the non-
Jewish names of the region. It wouldn't at all surprise me to discover
that some of the Merons in Israel changed their name >from Myron which was
an adaptation . . .

For anyone who wants to learn more on this topic, I suggest you read
Chapter 6 in Kaganoff's "A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their History,"
especially pp 56-57 where the origins of Faivush-Phoebus are discussed in
a (to me) very convincing manner.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Crypto-Jews -- New Mexico #general

Sharon Entin <s.entin@...>
 

This past week my husband and I were in Albuquerque, N.M. and we visited
the Zimmerman library at the University of New Mexico. I only had few
hours to look up information, but the staff at the library were very
helpful and located the books I was interested in plus many newspaper
articles about Crypto-Jews. After I was finished with my research, a
lovely lady who was a librarian there came over and introduced herself
and I explained that I was there to do some research for my own
interests. She then told me that her family name was one of the
suspected names during the Inquisition in Mexico!

I am definitely planning another trip to the Zimmerman library in the
near future. It is an excellent resource for obtaining information
about the Crypto Jews. We spent a little time in Santa Fe and found the
word: "Adonai" in Hebrew above the entrance to St. Francis Cathedral near
the plaza. While in Albuquerque I found one of the oldest churches there
in Old Town, St. Felipe de Neri, that was being renovated. We went
inside and above the altar on each side was a Star of David carved in
wood.

I just wanted to share these thoughts with the group.

Sharon Entin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Crypto-Jews -- New Mexico #general

Sharon Entin <s.entin@...>
 

This past week my husband and I were in Albuquerque, N.M. and we visited
the Zimmerman library at the University of New Mexico. I only had few
hours to look up information, but the staff at the library were very
helpful and located the books I was interested in plus many newspaper
articles about Crypto-Jews. After I was finished with my research, a
lovely lady who was a librarian there came over and introduced herself
and I explained that I was there to do some research for my own
interests. She then told me that her family name was one of the
suspected names during the Inquisition in Mexico!

I am definitely planning another trip to the Zimmerman library in the
near future. It is an excellent resource for obtaining information
about the Crypto Jews. We spent a little time in Santa Fe and found the
word: "Adonai" in Hebrew above the entrance to St. Francis Cathedral near
the plaza. While in Albuquerque I found one of the oldest churches there
in Old Town, St. Felipe de Neri, that was being renovated. We went
inside and above the altar on each side was a Star of David carved in
wood.

I just wanted to share these thoughts with the group.

Sharon Entin


Here is a list of surnames - Please check to see if you could be related... #general

robert.gleek <robert.gleek@...>
 

DORF / DOFF - >from Lomza to London & New York
HERMAN - >from Kolo to London & New York
KUPCHIK / COOPTCHICK - >from Odessa to London & USA
ISOW / ISOWITSKY - >from Odessa to London
GLEEK / GLICK - >from Riga to London to S Africa & Palestine
GLICKMAN / GLUKMAN - >from Warsaw to London & Belgium
MARCUS - >from Varniai to London
PARNES - Brussels, Belgium
WEITZENSANG - >from Warsaw to London
SACK - >from Lithuania to S Africa & London
TWERIA / FREEDMAN - >from Gorsd to London & USA

If the above names mean anything to you, please e-mail me at..
ntlworld.com@...

Robert Gleek


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Here is a list of surnames - Please check to see if you could be related... #general

robert.gleek <robert.gleek@...>
 

DORF / DOFF - >from Lomza to London & New York
HERMAN - >from Kolo to London & New York
KUPCHIK / COOPTCHICK - >from Odessa to London & USA
ISOW / ISOWITSKY - >from Odessa to London
GLEEK / GLICK - >from Riga to London to S Africa & Palestine
GLICKMAN / GLUKMAN - >from Warsaw to London & Belgium
MARCUS - >from Varniai to London
PARNES - Brussels, Belgium
WEITZENSANG - >from Warsaw to London
SACK - >from Lithuania to S Africa & London
TWERIA / FREEDMAN - >from Gorsd to London & USA

If the above names mean anything to you, please e-mail me at..
ntlworld.com@...

Robert Gleek