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Re: Wolverhampton
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Baruch Pinnick <bpinnick@...>
Stephen G. Esrati wrote:
Question 1: Why would immigrants have gone toShalom all, For those none-Britishers in the group, a brief explanation about Wolverhampton: it is a fairly large city in the English West Midlands about 10-15 miles north-west of Birmingham, and part of the greater Birmingham conurbation. It has a soccer club (Wolverhampton Wanderers, or "Wolves") with a most respectable history. Birmingham has had a significant Jewish community for a long time and there have been Jews in Wolverhampton as well. I don't know much about the latter community, except that it seemed to have been an organised kehilla at one time. I remember even 10 years ago someone >from Birmingham going to Wolverhampton on Purim night to read the Megilla to the remaining Jews there. I have at least one relative by marriage >from Wolverhampton. But there are hardly any Jews there now. Certainly, it would have been a place for Jewish immigrants, if not all that many. Close to Birmingham, in a heavily-industrialised region, and central to moving around Britain if one's ancestors were traders. I doubt very much - although I'm no mavin - if there was ever a Jewish area of Wolverhampton. Baruch Pinnick Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel Researching: MASLIN (Svislovisk/Babruysk/Minsk Belarus), CANTEROWITZ (Babruysk/Minsk), CREVINSKI, CARSON (both England >from Europe), TANNENBERG (town of same name, Germany), PONTOFEL (Plotsk, Poland), MODELE (Odessa?), PINNICK/PENIG etc (Plotsk, Poland), MICHAEL LEVI (rare name!) (Berlin 1830s), GOLDSTEIN and WARSHAVSKY (Poland, presumed Warsaw, 1800s)
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Re: Wolyn
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Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
Phoenixxph@aol.com wrote:
Regarding my previous messages about Wolyn. I have already received a Well, here goes another Jewish shtetl puzzle with a approximate nine letters >from which eight are unknown or at at least are not certain. How about Nowograd (Novograd) Volynskiy, Phoebe? Coordinates: 5036-2737. As to your grandmother memory about Wolyn. When she left Russia, she probably didn't take Red Lane ship directly >from Novograd. When she went aboard the liner in the western European port, she was just a lady from Russia, this was sufficient for shipping company, since one way ticket has been paid. Shipping clerk wouldn't be able to write down name of Novograd Wolynskiy anyway. When your grandma got married, she was probably asked on the marriage application to provide the name of the town, she was from. Alexander Sharon Calgary
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Wolverhampton
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Baruch Pinnick <bpinnick@...>
Stephen G. Esrati wrote:
Question 1: Why would immigrants have gone toShalom all, For those none-Britishers in the group, a brief explanation about Wolverhampton: it is a fairly large city in the English West Midlands about 10-15 miles north-west of Birmingham, and part of the greater Birmingham conurbation. It has a soccer club (Wolverhampton Wanderers, or "Wolves") with a most respectable history. Birmingham has had a significant Jewish community for a long time and there have been Jews in Wolverhampton as well. I don't know much about the latter community, except that it seemed to have been an organised kehilla at one time. I remember even 10 years ago someone >from Birmingham going to Wolverhampton on Purim night to read the Megilla to the remaining Jews there. I have at least one relative by marriage >from Wolverhampton. But there are hardly any Jews there now. Certainly, it would have been a place for Jewish immigrants, if not all that many. Close to Birmingham, in a heavily-industrialised region, and central to moving around Britain if one's ancestors were traders. I doubt very much - although I'm no mavin - if there was ever a Jewish area of Wolverhampton. Baruch Pinnick Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel Researching: MASLIN (Svislovisk/Babruysk/Minsk Belarus), CANTEROWITZ (Babruysk/Minsk), CREVINSKI, CARSON (both England >from Europe), TANNENBERG (town of same name, Germany), PONTOFEL (Plotsk, Poland), MODELE (Odessa?), PINNICK/PENIG etc (Plotsk, Poland), MICHAEL LEVI (rare name!) (Berlin 1830s), GOLDSTEIN and WARSHAVSKY (Poland, presumed Warsaw, 1800s)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Wolyn
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Alexander Sharon <sharon@...>
Phoenixxph@aol.com wrote:
Regarding my previous messages about Wolyn. I have already received a Well, here goes another Jewish shtetl puzzle with a approximate nine letters >from which eight are unknown or at at least are not certain. How about Nowograd (Novograd) Volynskiy, Phoebe? Coordinates: 5036-2737. As to your grandmother memory about Wolyn. When she left Russia, she probably didn't take Red Lane ship directly >from Novograd. When she went aboard the liner in the western European port, she was just a lady from Russia, this was sufficient for shipping company, since one way ticket has been paid. Shipping clerk wouldn't be able to write down name of Novograd Wolynskiy anyway. When your grandma got married, she was probably asked on the marriage application to provide the name of the town, she was from. Alexander Sharon Calgary
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Re: Birth certificates from England
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RobStrum@...
Thank you to everyone who sent me info on English birth certificates, what
to expect >from them, and where/how to obtain them. It's greatly appreciated! Robert Strumwasser Sharon, MA, USA RobStrum@aol.com MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Birth certificates from England
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RobStrum@...
Thank you to everyone who sent me info on English birth certificates, what
to expect >from them, and where/how to obtain them. It's greatly appreciated! Robert Strumwasser Sharon, MA, USA RobStrum@aol.com MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed.
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Re: Azonka Russia
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Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Fran,
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You are searching for town that was called in the past Yozuvka. Previous name was also Stalino (in the mid -30ies) and after the "uncle Jo" long awaited death, it has been renamed Donetsk. Donetsk is not just a town, it is actually a conglomerate of many towns, very similar in nature to the German Ruhr, French Lille, British Manchester or Polish Upper Silesia regions, where several mining towns (build around the foundries, coal mines and factories) are joined into a huge metropolitan area. Yuzovka, as I recall story >from my childhood was very popular, since famous small, fat and bold guy by name Nikita S. Krushchev, who became lately Soviet prime minister, 1st secretary of the Soviet communist party, and collection of the other numerous titles, has started his professional life in this town. As legend was told, town was established and named by an English capitalist. I've discovered lately that this "English " capitalist was a Welshman John Hughes, who in 1872 established there an ironworks to produce rails for the Russian railroad network. Russian actually never figure out that beside the English people, British Islands are also populated by the other nationalities. I should admit that some of our Genners have very same perceptions about the diversification of the population within the Russia, and are very pleasantly surprised when folks like Lithuanian or Belarussian are suddenly show up. Jewish people could arrive in Yuzovka any time - town was located in Ukraine, within Pale territory, and Czarist Government have probably encouraged skilled people to move in. Tailors were definitely skilled people. I believe that any size town could support a tailor, in those times only tailor and shoemaker could provide cloth and boots - "ready made" cloth and boots were not yet available. Unfortunately, i cannot help with other questions. Alexander Sharon Calgary Fran Stark <franstark@sprintmail.com> wrote in message ...
Dear Group,
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Re: Internees, Texas, WWII
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Roberta Sheps <roberta_l_sheps@...>
While I cannot comment on the practice in any parts of the US, I do know
of one early wartime immigrant in Canada who was interned, along with various non-Jewish Germans and Austrians, for several months before he could persuade the authorities that he was not a participating Nazi! I don't know whether the Canadian authorities didn't believe at first that he was Jewish, but the fact that he had come >from Austria was enough. Maybe the US government occasionally did the same. Roberta Sheps Colchester, England
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Azonka Russia
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Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
Fran,
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You are searching for town that was called in the past Yozuvka. Previous name was also Stalino (in the mid -30ies) and after the "uncle Jo" long awaited death, it has been renamed Donetsk. Donetsk is not just a town, it is actually a conglomerate of many towns, very similar in nature to the German Ruhr, French Lille, British Manchester or Polish Upper Silesia regions, where several mining towns (build around the foundries, coal mines and factories) are joined into a huge metropolitan area. Yuzovka, as I recall story >from my childhood was very popular, since famous small, fat and bold guy by name Nikita S. Krushchev, who became lately Soviet prime minister, 1st secretary of the Soviet communist party, and collection of the other numerous titles, has started his professional life in this town. As legend was told, town was established and named by an English capitalist. I've discovered lately that this "English " capitalist was a Welshman John Hughes, who in 1872 established there an ironworks to produce rails for the Russian railroad network. Russian actually never figure out that beside the English people, British Islands are also populated by the other nationalities. I should admit that some of our Genners have very same perceptions about the diversification of the population within the Russia, and are very pleasantly surprised when folks like Lithuanian or Belarussian are suddenly show up. Jewish people could arrive in Yuzovka any time - town was located in Ukraine, within Pale territory, and Czarist Government have probably encouraged skilled people to move in. Tailors were definitely skilled people. I believe that any size town could support a tailor, in those times only tailor and shoemaker could provide cloth and boots - "ready made" cloth and boots were not yet available. Unfortunately, i cannot help with other questions. Alexander Sharon Calgary Fran Stark <franstark@sprintmail.com> wrote in message ...
Dear Group,
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Internees, Texas, WWII
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Roberta Sheps <roberta_l_sheps@...>
While I cannot comment on the practice in any parts of the US, I do know
of one early wartime immigrant in Canada who was interned, along with various non-Jewish Germans and Austrians, for several months before he could persuade the authorities that he was not a participating Nazi! I don't know whether the Canadian authorities didn't believe at first that he was Jewish, but the fact that he had come >from Austria was enough. Maybe the US government occasionally did the same. Roberta Sheps Colchester, England
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Re: Membership fees--credit card
#latvia
MWhippman@...
In a message dated 20/11/99 08:31:18 GMT Standard Time, werle@pacificnet.net
writes: Dear Mike, This seems such a good idea. Is there anyway to activate it? I have been contacting anyone I can think of who might want to subscribe but those abroad face the most horrendous bank charges to the point of it not being ecomonic. For example the bank charge on membership this end is about 15-18 dollars [8-10 pounds] Best always, Constance
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Membership fees--credit card
#latvia
MWhippman@...
In a message dated 20/11/99 08:31:18 GMT Standard Time, werle@pacificnet.net
writes: Dear Mike, This seems such a good idea. Is there anyway to activate it? I have been contacting anyone I can think of who might want to subscribe but those abroad face the most horrendous bank charges to the point of it not being ecomonic. For example the bank charge on membership this end is about 15-18 dollars [8-10 pounds] Best always, Constance
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Latvia Archival Holdings listed
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Arlene Beare <arl@...>
The complete listing of the Jewish files held at the Latvian State
Historical Archives is now up and can be found on the Riga page. http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/riga/rigapage.htm It should be helpful to all researching Latvia to know what years are missing and what areas are listed. It is hoped that this marks the beginning of data sharing and that databasing of names >from these lists will soon be possible. Arlene Beare Riga Archives Representative for Latvia SIG
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Latvia Archival Holdings listed
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Arlene Beare <arl@...>
The complete listing of the Jewish files held at the Latvian State
Historical Archives is now up and can be found on the Riga page. http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/riga/rigapage.htm It should be helpful to all researching Latvia to know what years are missing and what areas are listed. It is hoped that this marks the beginning of data sharing and that databasing of names >from these lists will soon be possible. Arlene Beare Riga Archives Representative for Latvia SIG
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Re: Lithuanians from Riga?
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Arlene Beare <arl@...>
Many Jews >from Lithuania went to live in Latvia. My grandparents on one
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side originated in Birzai and went to settle in Riga. Have you checked the Jews Temporary Shelter to see if they are listed? Passenger manifests >from Latvia to England are more difficult. We are looking into it and the archives believe that there may be records. They are looking into it in St Petersburg. Prof Aubrey Newman >from Leicester University who has done extensive work on Jewish Emigration Patterns has students researching this at the moment. Arlene Beare Moderator
At 11:20 PM 11/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
I had always thought that both my mother's and father's parents were
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Lithuanians from Riga?
#latvia
Arlene Beare <arl@...>
Many Jews >from Lithuania went to live in Latvia. My grandparents on one
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side originated in Birzai and went to settle in Riga. Have you checked the Jews Temporary Shelter to see if they are listed? Passenger manifests >from Latvia to England are more difficult. We are looking into it and the archives believe that there may be records. They are looking into it in St Petersburg. Prof Aubrey Newman >from Leicester University who has done extensive work on Jewish Emigration Patterns has students researching this at the moment. Arlene Beare Moderator
At 11:20 PM 11/21/99 -0800, you wrote:
I had always thought that both my mother's and father's parents were
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A "thanksgiving" message from JewishGen
#general
Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
As those of us in the United States plan for our visits with family
and friends... we hope that you can find some time to make JewishGen a part of your family gatherings for several reasons. JewishGen began a grassroots effort several years ago to begin to get more and more of us involved in "preserving our history for future generations". If you peruse the JewishGen website today, you will see that this massive effort is paying off.... as more and more information becomes available to the Jewish community worldwide. There is a cast of thousands now who are participating with JewishGen... who have become part of our driving force.... and we know that there is not a soul who comes by here when "visiting JewishGen on the internet" who is not impressed and overwhelmed. We believe you owe it to yourselves and your family and your fellow JewishGen'rs to begin the process of introducing JewishGen to your family members, your friends... and your acquaintances. What a better way to say "thanks" or to celebrate a "thanksgiving" than to show others what information is available to them so they too can learn more about their history, their families... and perhaps.... a "thanksgiving" might occur this holiday season as perhaps one more family can be re-united after years of separation. This is our goal... and should be the goal of all of us out there. What you can do... several things.... surely... Introduce them to the JGFF which now boasts 28,346 researchers, 161,466 records, 51,034 unique surnames, 16,549 unique towns. Introduce them to the FTJP which now has 988,267 names >from 819 researchers. But most important... spend some time this weekend to get your database ready to submit your tree so that your names can be disseminated to the most people through the recently signed tripartite agreement between JewishGen, IAJGS and Beth Hatefutsoth. Show them the Yizkor Translation Project and the ShtetLinks site and get involved in working with others >from your ancestral villages to make information available. Show them the Holocaust Global Registry and make sure every survivor, everyone still looking for a survivor are represented in this renowned database. Show them the JewishGen site.... the SIGS, the databases, search all of JewishGen by following the link at the bottom of our home page.. so that you can see the wealth of information JewishGen brings to the general public through over 7500 pages of information in addition to the databases... Discuss the phenomenal opportunity of traveling with your family to your ancestral shtetls through JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers... http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/ and share with those you love one of the most breathaking and memorial experiences of a lifetime! Give thanks to those who are working behind the scenes, on center stage, in the peanut gallery who have made a difference in your personal research by making a contribution in their honor. http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html And most important... please include JewishGen in your generous giving this year so we can continue to grow and expand to meet the needs of our community.... that we can embark into this new millenium with the technology to address the projects and partnerships we are working so hard behind the scenes to develop for Jewish continuity into the next century. http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/ We at JewishGen give our thanks to all of you for your energies, your ideas, your creativity and your support over these so many years. Let us us all say a few prayers of "thanksgiving" for the friendships we have made, for the information we have garnered, for the contacts we hope to make... and for the unity and the spirit of sharing and giving which has been JewishGen's hallmark throughout these many years. May we embrace this season... and this new millenium with vigor and with this continued spirit of working together throughout the world... "to preserver our history for future generations." We wish everyone safety in their travels... and a wonderful sense of "being" with family and friends this holiday season! Susan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A "thanksgiving" message from JewishGen
#general
Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
As those of us in the United States plan for our visits with family
and friends... we hope that you can find some time to make JewishGen a part of your family gatherings for several reasons. JewishGen began a grassroots effort several years ago to begin to get more and more of us involved in "preserving our history for future generations". If you peruse the JewishGen website today, you will see that this massive effort is paying off.... as more and more information becomes available to the Jewish community worldwide. There is a cast of thousands now who are participating with JewishGen... who have become part of our driving force.... and we know that there is not a soul who comes by here when "visiting JewishGen on the internet" who is not impressed and overwhelmed. We believe you owe it to yourselves and your family and your fellow JewishGen'rs to begin the process of introducing JewishGen to your family members, your friends... and your acquaintances. What a better way to say "thanks" or to celebrate a "thanksgiving" than to show others what information is available to them so they too can learn more about their history, their families... and perhaps.... a "thanksgiving" might occur this holiday season as perhaps one more family can be re-united after years of separation. This is our goal... and should be the goal of all of us out there. What you can do... several things.... surely... Introduce them to the JGFF which now boasts 28,346 researchers, 161,466 records, 51,034 unique surnames, 16,549 unique towns. Introduce them to the FTJP which now has 988,267 names >from 819 researchers. But most important... spend some time this weekend to get your database ready to submit your tree so that your names can be disseminated to the most people through the recently signed tripartite agreement between JewishGen, IAJGS and Beth Hatefutsoth. Show them the Yizkor Translation Project and the ShtetLinks site and get involved in working with others >from your ancestral villages to make information available. Show them the Holocaust Global Registry and make sure every survivor, everyone still looking for a survivor are represented in this renowned database. Show them the JewishGen site.... the SIGS, the databases, search all of JewishGen by following the link at the bottom of our home page.. so that you can see the wealth of information JewishGen brings to the general public through over 7500 pages of information in addition to the databases... Discuss the phenomenal opportunity of traveling with your family to your ancestral shtetls through JewishGen ShtetlSchleppers... http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/ and share with those you love one of the most breathaking and memorial experiences of a lifetime! Give thanks to those who are working behind the scenes, on center stage, in the peanut gallery who have made a difference in your personal research by making a contribution in their honor. http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html And most important... please include JewishGen in your generous giving this year so we can continue to grow and expand to meet the needs of our community.... that we can embark into this new millenium with the technology to address the projects and partnerships we are working so hard behind the scenes to develop for Jewish continuity into the next century. http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/ We at JewishGen give our thanks to all of you for your energies, your ideas, your creativity and your support over these so many years. Let us us all say a few prayers of "thanksgiving" for the friendships we have made, for the information we have garnered, for the contacts we hope to make... and for the unity and the spirit of sharing and giving which has been JewishGen's hallmark throughout these many years. May we embrace this season... and this new millenium with vigor and with this continued spirit of working together throughout the world... "to preserver our history for future generations." We wish everyone safety in their travels... and a wonderful sense of "being" with family and friends this holiday season! Susan
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Archival Holdings listed
#latvia
Arlene Beare <arl@...>
I feel sure all Latvian researchers will be pleased to learn that the
complete listing of the Jewish files held at the Latvian State Historical Archives is now up and can be found on the Riga page. http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/riga/rigapage.htm It should be helpful to all researching Latvia to know what years are missing and what areas are listed. It is hoped that this marks the beginning and that databasing of names from these lists will soon be possible. Arlene Beare Riga Archives Representative for Latvia SIG
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Archival Holdings listed
#latvia
Arlene Beare <arl@...>
I feel sure all Latvian researchers will be pleased to learn that the
complete listing of the Jewish files held at the Latvian State Historical Archives is now up and can be found on the Riga page. http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/riga/rigapage.htm It should be helpful to all researching Latvia to know what years are missing and what areas are listed. It is hoped that this marks the beginning and that databasing of names from these lists will soon be possible. Arlene Beare Riga Archives Representative for Latvia SIG
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