The same practice applies here in Australia. You can get a shortened form
of a birth certificate (at a reduced cost) which can be used for ID
purposes etc.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)

The same practice applies here in Australia. You can get a shortened form
of a birth certificate (at a reduced cost) which can be used for ID
purposes etc.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)

Could the following people contact me, as I have lost your email addresses.
Sam Cowin In Alaska, Filpa and Rosa in Australia, and the Australian Join
Talk web site, if any one this list belongs to the Australian Join-Talk
list.

Thank you

Miriam Israel (Monica Sprott)
Queensland
Australia

Could the following people contact me, as I have lost your email addresses.
Sam Cowin In Alaska, Filpa and Rosa in Australia, and the Australian Join
Talk web site, if any one this list belongs to the Australian Join-Talk
list.

Thank you

Miriam Israel (Monica Sprott)
Queensland
Australia

Thanks to the many of you who responded to my query about oral history of
my Jewish great great grandparents (nobility?) being converted Christians.
their name is Moskovitz. This was in mid 19th century Austria. Some of
you suggested that I look for greater verification, which I will through
another distant branch of this family I have learned about.

Other interesting responsese were that in the 30 Years War (1618-1648)
christians converted to Judaism for safety. There are many stories from
Moravia during this period. Also, a January 1979 article in "Cathedra"
magazine by Yuval Dror discusses Russian Converts to Judaism in the 19th
century Galilee area. Also in 19th century Ukraine a large number of
Gentiles converted. This is told among the Breslover Chassidim.

I'm still not sure about what to make of my story, but I will keep looking.
Joan Pollak
Merion, Pa.

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed.

I believe my great grandfather is buried in the Greater Baltimore Lodge
Cemetery in Baltimore. I am very anxious to verify if this is indeed his
grave but, I live in Florida. I need someone in Baltimore to go to the
Bowley's Lane cemetery area and photograph the grave.

Robert Fleischman
adjusterbob@worldnet.att.net
Miami Beach, Fl.

I located a microfilm of a book in Russian titled, "Guberniya Committees
Concerning the Jewish Question", 1884, published in Russia by the 'Russia
Imperial Commission for the Review of Laws Applying to Jews in the Empire'.
The book is over 2,000 pages and is divided by guberniyas. Following is a
translation of the table of contents for the Kovno Guberniya section. The
translation is by Alexander Sharon.

<Works of the Kovno Commission on the Jewish Question

I. Findings of the meetings established by the Kovno Commission on the
Jewish Question , page 1

1. What specific aspects of the Jewish economical activities mostly
influence the basic life of the genuine population of Kovno Gubernia,
page 2

2. What are the practical problems encountered during an application of
the current Jewish legislations, page 10

3. What changes in the current Jewish legislations should be introduced, to prevent evasion of the rules by the Jews, and to paralyze harmful Jewish influence on the daily life of the genuine population,
page 11

II.Notes concerning harmful Jewish influence on the economical life of the
genuine population, page 24

III. Paper presentation by the Knyshov, Chairman of the Kovno Association of the Justices of Peace concerning box taxes, page 32

IV Paper presentation by Skugarevski, manager of income tax (excise) office
and member of the Commission on the Jewish Question, page 43

IV. About the Cheders, page 48

V Presentation by Mr. Kagan on Talmud Torah, page 59>

A copy of the book itself is in the Library of Congress under the title:
"Trudy Gubernskikh kommisii po evreiskomu voprosu"

Steven Weiss
Chicago

Thanks to the many of you who responded to my query about oral history of
my Jewish great great grandparents (nobility?) being converted Christians.
their name is Moskovitz. This was in mid 19th century Austria. Some of
you suggested that I look for greater verification, which I will through
another distant branch of this family I have learned about.

Other interesting responsese were that in the 30 Years War (1618-1648)
christians converted to Judaism for safety. There are many stories from
Moravia during this period. Also, a January 1979 article in "Cathedra"
magazine by Yuval Dror discusses Russian Converts to Judaism in the 19th
century Galilee area. Also in 19th century Ukraine a large number of
Gentiles converted. This is told among the Breslover Chassidim.

I'm still not sure about what to make of my story, but I will keep looking.
Joan Pollak
Merion, Pa.

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed.

I believe my great grandfather is buried in the Greater Baltimore Lodge
Cemetery in Baltimore. I am very anxious to verify if this is indeed his
grave but, I live in Florida. I need someone in Baltimore to go to the
Bowley's Lane cemetery area and photograph the grave.

Robert Fleischman
adjusterbob@worldnet.att.net
Miami Beach, Fl.

I located a microfilm of a book in Russian titled, "Guberniya Committees
Concerning the Jewish Question", 1884, published in Russia by the 'Russia
Imperial Commission for the Review of Laws Applying to Jews in the Empire'.
The book is over 2,000 pages and is divided by guberniyas. Following is a
translation of the table of contents for the Kovno Guberniya section. The
translation is by Alexander Sharon.

<Works of the Kovno Commission on the Jewish Question

I. Findings of the meetings established by the Kovno Commission on the
Jewish Question , page 1

1. What specific aspects of the Jewish economical activities mostly
influence the basic life of the genuine population of Kovno Gubernia,
page 2

2. What are the practical problems encountered during an application of
the current Jewish legislations, page 10

3. What changes in the current Jewish legislations should be introduced, to prevent evasion of the rules by the Jews, and to paralyze harmful Jewish influence on the daily life of the genuine population,
page 11

II.Notes concerning harmful Jewish influence on the economical life of the
genuine population, page 24

III. Paper presentation by the Knyshov, Chairman of the Kovno Association of the Justices of Peace concerning box taxes, page 32

IV Paper presentation by Skugarevski, manager of income tax (excise) office
and member of the Commission on the Jewish Question, page 43

IV. About the Cheders, page 48

V Presentation by Mr. Kagan on Talmud Torah, page 59>

A copy of the book itself is in the Library of Congress under the title:
"Trudy Gubernskikh kommisii po evreiskomu voprosu"

Steven Weiss
Chicago

Here are names of Jews interned at a WW II internment camp in
Seagoville Texas on October 31 and November 11, 1942.

Joseph Fallon, a freelance writer I met, is interested in writing
about their experiences. Why were Jews interrred by the U.S?

If anyone knows if they are alive, or where they are, or has any
information about any of them, please contact him at: jefallon@yahoo.com.

from the USA (?)

Ascher, Benno
Feybusch, Gerhard H.
Fraenkel, Erwin Dr.
Heineumann, Wilhelm
Kallman, Martin
Loewenthal, Emil
Mucha, Kurt
Schlesinger, Gerhard
Simon, Ernest
Wolff, Walter

Jews >from Honduras:
Friedmann, Leo
Friedmann, Margarete
Keiles, David


Les Eldridge, Queens, NYC, NY

Here are names of Jews interned at a WW II internment camp in
Seagoville Texas on October 31 and November 11, 1942.

Joseph Fallon, a freelance writer I met, is interested in writing
about their experiences. Why were Jews interrred by the U.S?

If anyone knows if they are alive, or where they are, or has any
information about any of them, please contact him at: jefallon@yahoo.com.

from the USA (?)

Ascher, Benno
Feybusch, Gerhard H.
Fraenkel, Erwin Dr.
Heineumann, Wilhelm
Kallman, Martin
Loewenthal, Emil
Mucha, Kurt
Schlesinger, Gerhard
Simon, Ernest
Wolff, Walter

Jews >from Honduras:
Friedmann, Leo
Friedmann, Margarete
Keiles, David


Les Eldridge, Queens, NYC, NY

Is there a kind soul who might be able to make a "local" phone call
for us in Jerusalem? We believe that we've learned of another
"missing" family member living there. I can't speak, read, or write
Hebrew, and I don't know if he can communicate in English. Before I
got through all sorts of unnecessary steps, I'd like to know what my
options are with this man.

Please reply privately to me at rickiz@mindspring.com

Thanks,
(Mrs.) Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL

Is there a kind soul who might be able to make a "local" phone call
for us in Jerusalem? We believe that we've learned of another
"missing" family member living there. I can't speak, read, or write
Hebrew, and I don't know if he can communicate in English. Before I
got through all sorts of unnecessary steps, I'd like to know what my
options are with this man.

Please reply privately to me at rickiz@mindspring.com

Thanks,
(Mrs.) Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL

I am seeking any information on the Gutmaker family. My understanding is
that the name was originally Guttmacher (and I do know of the Alan
Guttmacher branch in New York that traces back to Rabbi Elijah Guttmacher
in Silesia -- I may be related to them, but that is not my direct line).

My grandfather's name was Dr. Hymen Gutmaker, born in Philadelphia (Sept
10, 1909). His father was Joseph Gutmaker (born March 13, 1888) of New
York m (1) Rose (I think her maiden name was Resnick -- she was born on
Sept 10, 1888) (divorced) (2) Sarah (not sure of her maiden name, but her
birthdate was March 24, 1898)

Joseph's family immigrated >from Kiev, Ukraine. Joseph was a furrier in NYC
until his death.

I believe Joseph had a brother or uncle named Benjamin.

Using ancestry.com, I found a reference to a John Gutmaker in Illinois in
1860...but have no idea who he was.

That's about all the information I have on this line. Any information
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Jen Gutmaker

I am seeking any information on the Gutmaker family. My understanding is
that the name was originally Guttmacher (and I do know of the Alan
Guttmacher branch in New York that traces back to Rabbi Elijah Guttmacher
in Silesia -- I may be related to them, but that is not my direct line).

My grandfather's name was Dr. Hymen Gutmaker, born in Philadelphia (Sept
10, 1909). His father was Joseph Gutmaker (born March 13, 1888) of New
York m (1) Rose (I think her maiden name was Resnick -- she was born on
Sept 10, 1888) (divorced) (2) Sarah (not sure of her maiden name, but her
birthdate was March 24, 1898)

Joseph's family immigrated >from Kiev, Ukraine. Joseph was a furrier in NYC
until his death.

I believe Joseph had a brother or uncle named Benjamin.

Using ancestry.com, I found a reference to a John Gutmaker in Illinois in
1860...but have no idea who he was.

That's about all the information I have on this line. Any information
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Jen Gutmaker

Dear Genners,

My gfather, Mojzesz ben Josef FEINBERG, was born in Bielsk-Podlaski
(Poland) 5/25/1862 and died in Antwerp (Belgium) 2.16.1927. He married my
gmother Rachel LEVINSON 8.20.1889 in Vilna (Lithuania).
I was informed by one genner that there is a list of 1835 births, marriages
and deaths on a LDS film #1,191,937 of Bielsk-Podlaski on permanent loan
in the Mormon Family History Center in New York. I went to the local LDS
in Nice but they informed me there would be up to a 6 months delay to get
it here.
Perhaps there is a good soul somewhere who could have a look for my
ancestors on that film and keep me posted. TIA.

Roger FEINBERG
Antibes (France)

searching: Mojzesz ben Josef FEINBERG (Bielsk-Podlaski, Poland), David
LEVINSON, Abram KASCOVIC (Vilna area); Mordeck Michelevetz ANCELEVICH,
Rubka JANKELIOLNA, Cha=EFm and Chesha BAMDAS, Jacob SMORGONSKY and Sophie
KOWASKI (Minsk area); Baruch SCHUR and Sarah TRAUB (Plungjany). All names
may be spelled differently.

Dear Genners,

My gfather, Mojzesz ben Josef FEINBERG, was born in Bielsk-Podlaski
(Poland) 5/25/1862 and died in Antwerp (Belgium) 2.16.1927. He married my
gmother Rachel LEVINSON 8.20.1889 in Vilna (Lithuania).
I was informed by one genner that there is a list of 1835 births, marriages
and deaths on a LDS film #1,191,937 of Bielsk-Podlaski on permanent loan
in the Mormon Family History Center in New York. I went to the local LDS
in Nice but they informed me there would be up to a 6 months delay to get
it here.
Perhaps there is a good soul somewhere who could have a look for my
ancestors on that film and keep me posted. TIA.

Roger FEINBERG
Antibes (France)

searching: Mojzesz ben Josef FEINBERG (Bielsk-Podlaski, Poland), David
LEVINSON, Abram KASCOVIC (Vilna area); Mordeck Michelevetz ANCELEVICH,
Rubka JANKELIOLNA, Cha=EFm and Chesha BAMDAS, Jacob SMORGONSKY and Sophie
KOWASKI (Minsk area); Baruch SCHUR and Sarah TRAUB (Plungjany). All names
may be spelled differently.

Dear Genners,

My maternal gfather, Jacob GROSZ, son of Forkos GROSZ and Guisa SCHWARTZ,
was born in Dragabartfalva 8.15.1865. 45 Jews lived in that village at that
time. They were part of the Jewish Community of Bilki (or Brod?), who had
628 Jewish souls.
Dragabartfalva was in the komtat (arrondissement) of Felvidek in the
province of Bereg, S.E. of Munkacs. In 1918, after the dismanteling of
Austro-Hungary, it went to Tchecoslovakia and in 1938 became Ukraine with
name of Dorogratovo.

Anybody with informations on either of these names or places please
contact me.

Roger FEINBERG
Antibes (France)

searching: Mojsezes ben Josef FEINBERG (Bielsk-Podlaski, Poland), David
LEVINSON, Abram KASCOVIC (Vilna area); Mordeck Michelevetz ANCELEVICH,
Rubka JANKELIOLNA, Cha=EFm and Chesha BAMDAS, Jacob SMORGONSKY and Sophie
KOWASKI (Minsk area); Baruch SCHUR and Sarah TRAUB (Plungjany). All names
may be spelled differently.

Dear Genners,

My maternal gfather, Jacob GROSZ, son of Forkos GROSZ and Guisa SCHWARTZ,
was born in Dragabartfalva 8.15.1865. 45 Jews lived in that village at that
time. They were part of the Jewish Community of Bilki (or Brod?), who had
628 Jewish souls.
Dragabartfalva was in the komtat (arrondissement) of Felvidek in the
province of Bereg, S.E. of Munkacs. In 1918, after the dismanteling of
Austro-Hungary, it went to Tchecoslovakia and in 1938 became Ukraine with
name of Dorogratovo.

Anybody with informations on either of these names or places please
contact me.

Roger FEINBERG
Antibes (France)

searching: Mojsezes ben Josef FEINBERG (Bielsk-Podlaski, Poland), David
LEVINSON, Abram KASCOVIC (Vilna area); Mordeck Michelevetz ANCELEVICH,
Rubka JANKELIOLNA, Cha=EFm and Chesha BAMDAS, Jacob SMORGONSKY and Sophie
KOWASKI (Minsk area); Baruch SCHUR and Sarah TRAUB (Plungjany). All names
may be spelled differently.