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Hebrew translation on headstone #translation

Peter Pichler
 

I was hoping someone would be able to translate the Hebrew on the attached headstone for Rosie.  Family lore says that she and my father were "cousins", in fact second cousins, but my research has so far not come up with a connection.  I am trying to find a birth record for her in Galicia and it would be very helpful to see if the headstone would give me any help.

Many thanks

Peter Pichler


Re: Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today? #names #general

Mel Comisarow
 

"General paralysis of the insane" is (late stage) syphilis.

Mel Comisarow
Vancouver BC


Re: What would likely be the Jewish name for Samuel Black? #general #poland #names

Karen Lukeman
 

On a recent Finding Your Roots genealogy show on PBS, it turns out the original surname of comedian Lewis Black's family was "Blech". 
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Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)


Re: Yiddish Language Instructions - Duolingo #yiddish

rroth@...
 

I have also started this course and am enjoying it.

If you want to try, I suggest you first learn the Yiddish (Hebrew) alphabet somewhere else, as the early lessons in Duolingo are a good drill for reviving your knowlege of it but not I think very good for learning the letters from scratch.  There are phone and computer flashcard apps that do this better.

Can someone who knows Yiddish say something about the speakers? I realize many accents are available and the whole Litvak/Galizianer thing plays into it, but some of the words do not sound like I expect. Official instructors elsewhere speak YIVO but real people on the street speak in other ways, similar to how the Spanish you hear in NYC does not sound like what you might hear in Madrid.

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Robert Roth
Kingston, NY
rroth@...


Re: What would likely be the Jewish name for Samuel Black? #general #poland #names

Larry Gaum
 

I suggest Shiah Schwartz or Shmuel Schwartz
Larry Gaum
Toronto, ON.


Re: Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today? #names #general

rroth@...
 

"Mellitus" means sweet, to distinguish this ordinary diabetes from the less-familiar diabetes insipidus, meaning "bland", a completely different condition which still exists but is not much known to the general public. All the two have in common is frequent urination. Tasting the urine to tell them apart has gone out of fashion.

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Robert Roth MD
Kingston, NY
rroth@...


Re: Different date on birth record #romania #records #yizkorbooks

luc.radu@...
 

Few notes:
1) Romania adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1919. There are 12-13 days difference from the Julian used.
2) The date in the  birth ledger is the date when the entry was made by the Civil Office clerk. Usually that is 1-2 days from the DOB but that day is always mentioned. Unless you have a picture of the actual record, it is unclear what the Archive transcript has provided.
3) A discrepancy of the size mentioned is very small.   In most cases  (thousands) I have seen, the date, and even the year in the US records does not match the actual DOB.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY


Re: Census Records? 1887 #russia

peggyfreedman@...
 

Hi Geoffrey,

It is my understanding that the first CENSUS in the Russian Empire was in 1897.  Before that, there were Revision Lists.  Revision Lists have different rules, standards, and dates than an American Census. 

There are a variety of good articles on JewishGen about the different kinds of documents kept in the Russian Empire.  I found this one in the JewishGen InfoFiles:
_R_What are Russian Revision Lists, 24 Mar 2012.pdf (jewishgen.org)
You can also find discussions by searching this discussion group.

If you are looking for all records about a particular place, you have to keep looking for the town. Records are held in all kinds of unlikely places.

Peggy Freedman
Atlanta, GA USA


Re: What would likely be the Jewish name for Samuel Black? #general #poland #names

Trudy Barch
 

my guess would be Shmuel Schartzman   (not sure of the spelling)    Trudy Barch


Re: What would likely be the Jewish name for Samuel Black? #general #poland #names

Eric Davis
 

Try Szmuel Szwartz, that is the approximate spelling for the Polish pronounciation,  Shmuel Shwartz or Samuel Black. 


Re: Different date on birth record #romania #records #yizkorbooks

cohen.izzy@...
 

I agree with the comments of Sally and Odeda, but would add the fact that ...  Romania changed from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar in 1919 (much later than most Western countries), with 31 March 1919 being followed by 14 April 1919. So there was a 13-day difference at the time of that change. Greece was the last country to adopt the Gregorian calendar ... in 1922.

Izzy
Israel A. Cohen
cohen.izzy@...



Re: What were conditions like for Jew in Wroclaw, Poland in 1875? #poland #general

Frank Szmulowicz
 

Addition to the historical background:
The Unification of Germany in 1871 turned Breslau into the sixth-largest city in the German Empire. Its population more than tripled to over half a million between 1860 and 1910. The 1900 census listed 422,709 residents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroc%C5%82aw

Frank Szmulowicz


Re: What were conditions like for Jew in Wroclaw, Poland in 1875? #poland #general

Frank Szmulowicz
 

The town was then called Breslau, and it was a part of Prussia at the time.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/breslau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroc%C5%82aw
Frank Szmulowicz


Re: Perkels in Belarus #belarus

geoffrey
 

There were Perkel family in Mszonow (Amshinov) about 50kms south west of Warsaw before the war. The only survivors I know of were three brothers who migrated to Australia after the war.  
Geoffrey Ackerman

 


Re: How to correct errors in JewishGen database? #hungary #general

r.peeters
 

I found a simular problem with a file from jewisgen which is shown by the enclosed copy.
1) The four children NATHAN were nieces of Jacob LEVIN and Bertha NATHAN and not related to Berta LORIE. He was born in 1831 and she in 1839.

As you can see on the copy of febr. 2021 the remark about the lodger already indicates that the link might not exist.

How and where is this type of information to be reported?

Ron Peeters (NL)


Re: Looking for obituary of MARCEL BRZOSTOWSKI #france #holocaust

michele.akerberg@...
 

Bonjour Monsieur,
Voici des lien internet de sites français de Marcel BRZOSTOWSKI
(Internet links to French sites):
https://geneafrance.com/france/mplf/?mplf=91086
https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/arkotheque/client/mdh/base_resistants/detail_fiche.php?ref=2632838
Cordialement
Michèle AKERBERG
michele.akerberg@...


Re: STERN family of Malsch, Landkreis Karlsruhe #germany

d.mayer@...
 

Hi Ralph
I noticed this page that could be of relevance to your search :
http://sternmail.co.uk/sld/getperson.php?personID=I9452&tree=SLtree

Best Regards
Daniel Mayer
d.mayer@...


Online Jewish genealogy resources to be focus of JGS of Illinois talk on May 23, 2021 #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Martin Fischer
 

Eli Rabinowitz, a board member of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) who lives in Australia and is from South Africa, will speak on “Journeys from Shtetl to Shtetl” for the Sunday, May 23, 2021, virtual meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois. His live streaming presentation, which is free and open to the public, will begin at 7:30 p.m. CDT (U.S. and Canada). (A separate JGSI members-only genealogy question-and-answer discussion time will start at 6:30 p.m.) 

To register for this free event, go to https://jgsi.org/Events-calendar. After you register, you will be sent a link to join the meeting. (This webinar will be recorded so that JGSI’s paid members who are unable to view it live will be able to view the recording later.)  

For more information, see https://jgsi.org or phone 312-666-0100. 

In his presentation, Rabinowitz will explain how to trace our past and plot our future, using 88 KehilaLinks, over 760 WordPress blog entries, Facebook posts, and other social media. He will also discuss heritage travels in the actual and virtual worlds. 

In his talk, Eli will describe special events including commemorations and reunions of descendants. “An important activity is to visit a local school—either physically or online, to engage with students, especially in towns where a few buildings with Jewish symbols, or cemeteries that often contain illegible matsevot, are the only tangible memories of a once thriving community,” he said. 

It is also important that family histories should be documented and shared at the same time as the special events, Eli said. 

Examples of such recent ceremonies were the Bielski partisans’ descendants’ reunion in Naliboki and Navahrudak, Belarus; the new memorial for victims of the massacre that took place near Birzai, Lithuania; and the groundbreaking ceremony for the Lost Shtetl Museum in Šeduva, Lithuania. 

Eli Rabinowitz was born in Cape Town, South Africa, and has lived in Perth, Australia, since 1986. He has researched his family’s genealogy and associated Jewish cultural history for over 30 years. Eli has travelled extensively, writing about Jewish life, travel, and education on his website, Tangential Travel and Jewish Life (http://elirab.me). He writes and manages dozens of JewishGen KehilaLinks and more than 750 WordPress blog posts. His articles have appeared in numerous publications, including Avotaynu: The International Review of Jewish Genealogy. Eli has lectured internationally at educational institutions, commemorative events, at IAJGS and other conferences, and online. 

He is a board member of the IAJGS—The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies, an independent non-profit umbrella organization that coordinates an annual conference of more than 90 Jewish genealogical societies worldwide. 

Eli also advises on Litvak and Polish heritage tours. 

He writes and manages 88 KehilaLinks—Jewish websites for JewishGen.org, the world’s largest Jewish genealogical organization, with a database of 500,000 followers. His KehilaLinks include sites in Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Germany, Russia, China, Mauritius, Mozambique, South Africa and Australia.  

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois is a non-profit organization dedicated to helping members collect, preserve, and perpetuate the records and history of their ancestors. JGSI is a resource for the worldwide Jewish community to research their Chicago-area roots. The JGSI motto is “Members Helping Members Since 1981.” The group has more than 300 members and is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies

JGSI members have access to useful and informative online family history research resources, including a members’ forum, more than 65 video recordings of past speakers’ presentations, monthly JGSI E-News, quarterly Morasha JGSI newsletter, and much more. Members as well as non-members can look for their ancestors on the free searchable JGSI Jewish Chicago Database


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Martin Fischer
Vice President-Publicity
Jewish Genealogical Society of Illinois

JGSI website: https://jgsi.org


Re: Different date on birth record #romania #records #yizkorbooks

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Another explanation:

Boys names are often not known by anyone but their parents and not mentioned until they've been circumcised. An important part of that ceremony is the announcement (my translation)  "And his name in the People in Israel shall henceforth be ---- "

The 22nd is seven days, after the 15th i.e. the day of his Bris - the day he received his name, and it was in public.    So yes, it could the day his birth (name included) was reported - or registered and not the day on which the infant was born.

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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


What would likely be the Jewish name for Samuel Black? #general #poland #names

pat
 

My Great grandfather signed his name, Samuel Black on the ship manifest when he arrived in the U.S. in 1875 from Wroclaw, Poland.
Without knowing his Jewish name, I cannot find any records for him in Wroclaw, Poland.
Pat Stromberg

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