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Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Susan Megerman
 

My mother's family came from Suchowola near Grodno (Poland/Russia) and we had applesauce and sometimes sour cream but sour cream on bananas always. I still like bananas, but now with yogurt. I have many kugel recipes, but would love yours. 


In search of descendants of POSTERNAK family from Zhitomir #ukraine

rhonda.post@...
 

While working with a researcher in Zhitomir, Ukraine we have discovered the names of my husband's great grandfather's family.

Our Louis Post was born in Zhitomir in 1876 as Luzer POSTERNAK which is also spelled as PUSTERNAK. He was the son of Kotel POSTERNAK born around 1838 and Chaya Moshkova Vinokur. We just learned our Louis was one of 10 children, 7 of them lived past the age of 3. I am looking for descendants of the following siblings. If any of these names are on your tree, please send me a message:

1. Ios POSTERNAK(born 1867) married  Shifra FLEISHMAN and they had 6 children:
* Chava-Tsipa Posternak born 1896
* Avraam Posternak born 1898
* Mendel Posternak born 1903
* Mesya Posternak born 1904
* David Posternak born 1909
* Faytel Posternak born 1910

2. Mariam-Chasya POSTERNAK born 1869
3. Yuda-Leib POSTERNAK born 1872
4. Arye POSTERNAK born 1873 married Hinda Kimelblat and had 6 children
* Chasya Posternak born 1900
* Ena Posternak born 1902
* Ruvin Posternak born 1904
* Sura Posternak born 1907
* Sheyndl Posternak born 1910
* Lifsha Posternak born 1913

5. Yakov POSTERNAK born 1885
6. Ruchel POSTERNAK born 1890

Rhonda Post
Silver Spring, Maryland
rhonda.post@...


Re: "Holy Silence" Documents Vatican's Role in the Holocaust #announcements #holocaust

H Gershon
 

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 08:38 AM, Jan Meisels Allen wrote:
 I was able to view the film by first clicking on the link for the article.  The register button is at the end of the article. I then had to make an account to 'purchase' the free ticket.

h gershon

Researching:

Poland:
CHVILOVITZKY, LEVY, RIGRODSKY, WILGOCKA->Suwalk area
WARTELSKY->BARTELL, BARTELS: Jeleniewo -> Manchester, UK -> NYC
YATKOVSKY, YALINSKY, JARDOVSKY->Suwalk area
SZAFIR->GOLD: Glowno. Radogoszcz -> New York City / New Jersey, USA
SZUMIRAJ, LEWKOWICZ-> Glowno area
KALMANOWICZ->COHEN: Lodz, -> NYC / Paterson, NJ, USA
YUKOBOVICZOW, GAWRONSKA, GREENSHTAIN-> Lodz area
GOTLIB-> Zychlin

Belarus:
DUNSKY: Sopotskin -> Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
CHILOVITZKY: Sopotskin
PALEVSKY, POLLACK: Horodetz, Kobryn -> New York City
LIFSCHITZ: Brest, Antopol -> New York City; 
BLOCK, DUBIN, PERLSTEIN-> Kobryn area
DAITCH, CHABUVESKY, GOLDSTEIN, GOLDBERG->Kobryn area
GERSHONOWITZ: Kobryn, David Gorodok -> NYC, Chicago 

Galicia:
EIGEN: Pomorzany, Narajow -> NYC
KNEBEL: Narajow
GLANTZ, LANDAU, STREISANT->Narajow area
KALAFER: Pomorzany ->Toronto, NYC, NJ

USA:
FROST: Maspeth, NY
GLEIT, GOLDSTEIN, POLLACK, PRICE: New York, NY
GOLD: Brooklyn, NY
GOLDSTEIN: Philadelphia, PA
JACOBS: Paterson, NJ


Re: How do I access the actual image at the Lithuanian historical archive #lithuania

lsragovicz@...
 

Hi Elani.  I wrote to the Archive in search of records, I had no numbers or anything.  First, they wrote back saying they were going to look.  Eventually, they told me to make a transfer to their account in Lithuania... it must have been something like 35 USD at the time, and eventually, I got by actual mail about 15 pages of documents. The process was slow, and it must have taken a couple of months maybe... but I did get what I was searching for.
--
Lia Sragovicz


Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Alyssa Freeman
 

I've never heard of this distinction. I have one great-grandmother who was Galitzianer. I'm about 35% Lithuanian and 50% Russian. I've always eaten my latkes with applesauce (if I put anything on them at all). I hate sour cream.

Alyssa Freeman
Richmond, Va
 


Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Lee Jaffe
 

My Yiddish teacher told us that the preference for sweet vs. savory corresponds to distinct Yiddish dialects.  He said that it's called the "Geflite Fish Line."

BTW, there is a great scene in Amos Oz's A Tale of Love and Darkness where one of his grandmothers complains about how sweet the other grandmother's cooking is. 

Lee Jaffe


Re: Zweinache. Austria

Sherri Bobish
 


Susie,

A soundex search at:
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp
finds 3 possibilites, but I think these 2 are the most likely options for you to research.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish

Dzvynyach, Ukraine

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1038503

Dźwiniacz Górny, Poland

https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-500692


Looking for Ancestors dating back beyond the mid 1800s (Blumenthals and Meyer - or similar spellings) #germany #names

mattianlevine@...
 

I'm creating a family tree and on my Father's side he is 1/4 German (making me 1/8 German as my mother has no German genetic traits and ancestors).  But I digress. I understand that the surname "Blumenthal" dates back very far and many Blumenthal families were quite extensive. My third-great grandfather was named Nathan Blumenthal (Born 25 APR 1838 • Giebelstadt, Würzburg and Died 30 JAN 1920 • New York, New York). His wife's name was Caroline Meyer (Born 21 OCT 1848 • Germany and Died 8 APR 1900 but the location is unknown). I would appreciate any data agglomeration on their ancestors (such as their parents, places, grandparents, etc). I have all of the information on their children and all of the way to me. Much appreciated! If anybody needs clarification just let me know. Thanks

Matt Levine
NJ


Re: "Holy Silence" Documents Vatican's Role in the Holocaust #announcements #holocaust

Sherri Bobish
 


I also had trouble with the link to register for Holy Silence.
I used this link today, and it worked:
https://www.ushmm.org/online-calendar/event/vemaholysilnc08

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: North Adams, Massachusetts - early Jewish settlers #usa

Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
 

Cohoes had some clothing manufacturing and I think North Adams had a fabric mill. Could be a connection between them?
--
Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY


Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

Shelley Mitchell
 

My mother from Galicia put apple sauce on latkes and sour cream was mixed in with sliced bananas on dairy night. 

My Litvak father ate what he was given with no complaints. Best gefilte fish was all whitefish and blintzes were cherry or cheese with nothing on top. I hated borscht which upset my Litvak gmother. 


Re: Help needed with a translation from what appears to be hebrew or yiddish text in my DAVISON grand-mother prayerbook ? #translation #yiddish #germany

Carol Baird
 

I cannot read script Hebrew, but the German is pretty clear and  the name is DAVIDSOHN, not Davison. My name is Carol Davidson Baird, the daughter of Ernest Davidson (was Davidsohn), the son of Hugo Davidsohn, the son of Jakob Davidsohn, the son of Solomon ben David, later Davidsohn in 1807.  They all came from Gross Schliewitz, Kreis Tuchel, West Prussia, now Sliwice, Tuchola, Poland.  I didn't notice where your family came from - can you answer that?  Thanks, Carol


Re: Help with identifying a town off of a census

lawrence.r.waters@...
 

Thank you all who messaged me on here and in private emails. It really is amazing how many people jumped on the opportunity to find out more about my family. I’m still learning how to manipulate the search engines to find meaningful answers. Additionally I was having trouble figuring out what was even written in cursive on the census

Thanks to Renee Steinig we found what I believe is the Ellis Island record of my GG Grandmother. I’m still searching for my GG GF who came earlier and any records of their parents in the Chernivsti area.

Alter Watter: Born 1874 Imm:1897ish
Mindel (Minnie) Watter (Née Koffler):  Born 1876 Imm:11 May 1899 from Poszhantz (sp?) on the Southwark with their daughter Perl. 

Thank you all again


Re: North Adams, Massachusetts - early Jewish settlers #usa

Deanna Levinsky <DEANNASMAC@...>
 

The Berkshire Eagle newspaper started publishing in 1892
It is still in business. I believe it might be a resource for you as it covers this area.
Deanna Mandel Levinsky
Long Island, New York
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Deanna M. Levinsky, Long Island, NY


Re: Potato Latkes...are you Litvak or Galitizianer? #galicia #lithuania

j
 

Galicia natives are supposed to have a sweet tooth and went with apple sauce on the Latke's.  Litvaks chose sour cream. Since I'm sides, my yiddish pronunciation for the few words I know is very erratic. I think the difference may be whether the latke's are served with diary or meat.


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

j
 

I can't speak for Canada but as the descendant of cloak and suitor, I can say that virtual no garment was produced for resale in the US which was made by hand. In the early 20th the garments were either produced in factories by machine or they were jobbed out in small lots to people who sewed them by machine at home. Even seamstresses to the wealth had sewing machines. My granddad who was a schneider by trade carried his sewing machine on his back  from Lithuania to Hamburg  earning the money for his passage and his trip as he walked from town to town. In answer to the question of work related injuries with cutting machines, the steam driven units could produce horrible burns. All of the machines could cause serious cuts if the machine operator lost control. Pressing also had a high incidence of accidents. There were many work related injuries, some obvious some not, in the sweatshops. 
 
My grand-dad owned a factory very similar to the one in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire (1911) in respect to how the garments were produced. It was a standard format. The difference was that the Triangle factory building was unsafe. The conditions at the factory can be found readily on the net. While the owners of the factory represented the worst abuses of the industry, the horrible death toll was mostly the result of inadequate fire laws and paid off fire inspections by the city of NY. The workers, like the owners were Jewish and there are burials and monuments to the victims in many Jewish cemeteries in Queens and Brooklyn.
 
My grandmother worked in her brother-in-law's factory when she first came here on the buttonhole machine. If she broke a needle she had to pay for it. She said she broke so many needles she never got paid. At the time of the Triangle fire my granddad already owned a factory. He had to bail my grandmother out of jail when she was arrested demonstrating in the ILGWU parade in NY to better conditions in the factories. Unlike the shirtwaist factory, my grandad's factory conformed to the fire codes with working sprinkler systems, adequate fire escapes and working industrial size elevators and good lighting. When I visited my granddad's factory in the 1950's, it was no longer emigrant Jewish labor, it was Puerto Rican, before the manufacturing moved off shore to Asia. 
 
It might be an interesting project on Jewishgen to document Jewish experience with the garment trade in the US, it's such an important part of our history. I'd love to collect stories people have heard from their families. Perhaps a different kind of Kelillah links page?
 
 
 
 


Re: looking for Annette Kaufman related to Haskel's from Suwalki in Lithuania/Poland #lithuania #poland

rmbotwin@...
 

Re: Suwalki
I have relatives from Suwalki:
Kowalsky
Fisher
Mandel
Yudkoff
Kaplan

Any names match yours?
Rita Botwin


Re: How do I access the actual image at the Lithuanian historical archive #lithuania

Fanny Levy
 

Hi.  You may be able to get a copy of the record from a volunteer at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.  The seven digit number in the far right hand box indicates it has been filmed, and provides the film number.  If it was underlined, you would be able to click on the number and access the roll of film.  There is no line (no link), so you need to request it.  If you were able to look at the film yourself, the 6 would indicate that it is the 6th item that was photographed on the roll, an item being a set of multiple records.  1848 is the year of the record.  It is record # 48 for that year, which will help you find the item on the page when you receive it.  I took a JewishGen class from Nancy Holden, who thinks that records cost $5 each.

I don't know if you can access the Lithuanian archive records directly, but I do know the Lithuanian Archives also has researchers, as a cousin of my husband's worked with one prior to a research visit to Lithuania. I don't know what the breakdown numbers mean for the Lithuanian archive.  Presumably, it explains where the record is stored in the library.

Hope you are able to get it!

Fanny Levy


August 18: #holocaust Genealogy Coffee Break #holocaust #events #announcements

Moriah Amit
 

Tomorrow (8/18) at 3:30 pm ET, tune into the Center for Jewish History's Facebook page for the next episode of Genealogy Coffee Break. Our genealogy librarians will show you how to use the largest Holocaust-era online databases to recover your family's lost names and stories. To join the live webinar, click "Follow" on the top of the Center's Facebook page and a notification will pop up on your screen when the webinar goes live. Note: If the notification doesn't appear, you can also find the webinar on our Facebook videos page once it goes live. Catch up on the entire series here

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian at the Center for Jewish History
New York, NY


Re: LIVERPOOL HOPE PLACE SYNAGOGUE Book re 1836 to 1930. #unitedkingdom #records

bermanfm@...
 

Typing error:  Years should read 1888, 1889, and 1900
Whilst writing I wonder if anyone could shed any light on my g.grandfather Robert (Reuven) Lipkin's ancestry.  Born in 1856, in Zagare, Lithuania,  he settled in Liverpool and in 1878 married Leah Hesselberg of Liverpool.  They had 8 children, and he became successful in the furniture business.
Though very active and well-known in the Liverpool Jewish community, the only information I have from his naturalization papers apart from place  and date of birth, is that his parents were Isaac and Hannah.  It remains a mystery as to whether he was related to Rabbi Israel (Salanter) Lipkin,, or in fact, any of the other Lipkins in the world, including the Liverpool Lipkins.   
Although he appears on many Lipkin family trees, nobody has been able to provide any documentary proof that he actually fits into their trees, and all searches over many years have not been productive.  
If anyone can help, I'd be very grateful.
Thank you.
Kathryn Berman, Jerusalem

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