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Re: Are children named for living or dead relatives if one parent is Ashkenazi and one is Sephardic? #names

Joyaa Antares
 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 03:05 AM, Stephen Weinstein wrote:
If both parents are Ashkenazi, children are named after deceased relatives, or not named for anyone, but never named for the living

I am from an Ashkenazi family.  There are numerous amongst us (including me) named after relatives who were living, so it's important in these discussions to distinguish between what is laid out in Jewish Law and the broader possibilities that can occur in practice.

Joyaa ANTARES
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


Re: Stawiski, Poland #poland

Archange Bousquet
 

Hi Carrie,

I am not sure Ellen got back to you about her  family  but I wanted to mention my husband's connection to Stawiski, Poland.
We have found two Stawiski mentions of his Urdansky/Jordansky family in the JRI Poland database:
1.His great great grandfather, Ick Lejba Jordanski died in Stawiski an 1877, No further information. I am trying to determine whether he is related to a large Jordansky family in the Stawiski area.
2. In that connection there is a Stawiski marriage in 1828 between Szejna Jordanska daughter of Abram Herszkowicz and an unnamed mother whose father was Enoch and Idzk Kuna born in Stawiski, son of Judka Szymkowicz Kuna and Ryfk Idzkowna. We don't know whether Szejna is related to my husband.

Please let me know if you   see a connection to  your families.
Best regards,
Jeanne Lurie) lurierj@...


Polish or Russian Translation needed (please) #translation

Gittel
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish or Russian  for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM91133
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.   Gayle Frankel Sokoloff

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


JewishGen Course Announcement - Sharing Your Stories – Writing Short Family Narratives – March 2021 #announcements #education #JewishGenUpdates

Marion Werle
 

You’ve been working on your family history for years. Doing a complete family history can be overwhelming, so let’s start by writing a short family narrative. Your report can focus on an individual, a family story, your ancestral town, an immigration experience, a family photo, or other topic of your choosing. The objective of this class is to provide the opportunity to write a report of limited scope that you can complete within a short timeframe. The course will offer tips on how to add interest to your chosen story, using context and description, and will cover the mechanics of writing and genealogical best practices to create an effective report. This is a four-week class. The first week will be used to assist you plan and bring focus your story. Please have a topic in mind prior to registration, and be sure that your supporting research is as complete as possible. Spend some time reviewing and organizing your research before class starts. Please write a brief (1-2 paragraph) description of your project to discuss during our first session.

The course has been revamped to take advantage of the in-person Zoom sessions that we have all grown accustomed to during quarantine. We will meet weekly to discuss the lessons and answer any questions. After you enroll, please email the instructor to indicate your time zone and the best time for class meetings. Enrollment is limited to ten (10) students. See the JewishGen Learning Center Schedule for a full description and enrollment instructions.

The class begins on March 1, 2021 and final papers will be due on March 31, in consideration of the Passover holiday. . Please send any questions to course instructor Marion Werle.

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Marion Werle
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Re: JewishGen Purim Party! #JewishGenUpdates

Yehuda Rubin
 

I don’t think I’ll be able to watch it live. Is it being recorded?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:55 PM Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

COME ONE, COME ALL!

In honor of the upcoming holiday of Purim, you are cordially invited to a special


Pre-Purim JewishGen FUNraising Event

Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:00 PM Eastern Time

 

Join your JewishGen friends (aka Haman’s Henchmen) for a hilarious Purim event that will be sure to keep you laughing the entire time. Festivities will include:

 

  • You Know You Have Been a Jewish Genealogist Too Long When...with veteran Jewish genealogists.

  • Weird and Funny Jewish Names...with Dr. Alexandre Beider and Ron Arons.

  • Odd Jewish Tombstones... with Nolan Altman.

  • *Interactive Game Show: Who Wants to be a Levite...with Jordan Auslander and Ron Arons. (See below for instructions to apply as a contestant).


Registration is free, with a suggested donation. Signup today at: http://bit.ly/JewishGenPurim2021.


Looking forward to seeing you all next week!


Sincerely yours, 

Haman’s Henchmen 

(Jordan Auslander, Ron Arons, Alexandre Beider, Nolan Altman, and Karen Franklin)



*To apply as a contestant on Who Wants to be a Levite, email karenfranklin@... and include the following information: Name, where you family is from (country is sufficient), and whether you would be willing to dress as Haman or Vashti if required (just kidding). Skeletons in the closet or on your family tree preferred (not kidding). All contestants who are selected and appear in the program will receive one-year value-added-services on JewishGen, a $100 value.   https://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen/valueadded.asp  If selected, you will be notified by email by Sunday, February 21. 


Have question for the group #lithuania

Jonathan Jacobs
 

 I have a Beniamin Khotovski who married Sore-ite Ligum in 01 Mar 1911, Pusalotas, Panevežys, Kaunas, Lithuania. Both were born about 1886-8.

 

I know this doc is correct…

Lithuania, Marriage and Divorce Records from Various Towns, 1855-1940

View Record

Name Sore-Ite Ligum
Gender Female
Age 23
Birth Date Abt. 1888
Father's Given Name Ruvin
Marriage Date 1 Mar 1911
Hebrew Date 14 Adar
Town Pusalotas
Uyezd (District) Panevežys
Guberniya (Province) Kaunas
Spouse Name Beniamin Khotovski
Spouse Gender Male
Spouse Age 23
Spouse Birth Date Abt. 1888
Spouse Father's Given Name Elia
Microfilm 2328521
Record Place Pušalotas
Record Year 1911
First Witness SHNEIDER, Sender
Second Witness Zubtsov
Comments Bride single, Groom ?
Source LVIA / 1226 / 1 / 2056

 

The problem I have is this naturalization record that is attached.  I know cousins for Sore-Ite Ligum moved to that city.  But, the last names are switched.

 
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Amateur Genealogist
Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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HENKOWITZ (GENKOVICH) family, Grodek, Poland #poland

Ron Henkoff
 

I am seeking information about Grodek (Horodok) Poland during the period 1880-1910. My paternal grandfather, Morris Benjamin Henkoff (Henkowitz) (1891-1957) grew up there and emigrated to the US in 1909. My paternal grandmother, Ella Natowitz, also grew up there.
 
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Ron Henkoff
rhenkoff@...
cell: (203) 218-9663

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Ron Henkoff
Westport, Connecticut, USA

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Re: JewishGen Purim Party! #JewishGenUpdates

Albert Kirshen
 

Would love to attend but I'm out seeing patients at that time. Any chance of seeing a recording?


On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:55 PM Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

COME ONE, COME ALL!

In honor of the upcoming holiday of Purim, you are cordially invited to a special


Pre-Purim JewishGen FUNraising Event

Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:00 PM Eastern Time

 

Join your JewishGen friends (aka Haman’s Henchmen) for a hilarious Purim event that will be sure to keep you laughing the entire time. Festivities will include:

 

  • You Know You Have Been a Jewish Genealogist Too Long When...with veteran Jewish genealogists.

  • Weird and Funny Jewish Names...with Dr. Alexandre Beider and Ron Arons.

  • Odd Jewish Tombstones... with Nolan Altman.

  • *Interactive Game Show: Who Wants to be a Levite...with Jordan Auslander and Ron Arons. (See below for instructions to apply as a contestant).


Registration is free, with a suggested donation. Signup today at: http://bit.ly/JewishGenPurim2021.


Looking forward to seeing you all next week!


Sincerely yours, 

Haman’s Henchmen 

(Jordan Auslander, Ron Arons, Alexandre Beider, Nolan Altman, and Karen Franklin)



*To apply as a contestant on Who Wants to be a Levite, email karenfranklin@... and include the following information: Name, where you family is from (country is sufficient), and whether you would be willing to dress as Haman or Vashti if required (just kidding). Skeletons in the closet or on your family tree preferred (not kidding). All contestants who are selected and appear in the program will receive one-year value-added-services on JewishGen, a $100 value.   https://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen/valueadded.asp  If selected, you will be notified by email by Sunday, February 21. 


JewishGen Purim Party! #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll
 

COME ONE, COME ALL!

In honor of the upcoming holiday of Purim, you are cordially invited to a special


Pre-Purim JewishGen FUNraising Event

Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:00 PM Eastern Time

 

Join your JewishGen friends (aka Haman’s Henchmen) for a hilarious Purim event that will be sure to keep you laughing the entire time. Festivities will include:

 

  • You Know You Have Been a Jewish Genealogist Too Long When...with veteran Jewish genealogists.

  • Weird and Funny Jewish Names...with Dr. Alexandre Beider and Ron Arons.

  • Odd Jewish Tombstones... with Nolan Altman.

  • *Interactive Game Show: Who Wants to be a Levite...with Jordan Auslander and Ron Arons. (See below for instructions to apply as a contestant).


Registration is free, with a suggested donation. Signup today at: http://bit.ly/JewishGenPurim2021.


Looking forward to seeing you all next week!


Sincerely yours, 

Haman’s Henchmen 

(Jordan Auslander, Ron Arons, Alexandre Beider, Nolan Altman, and Karen Franklin)



*To apply as a contestant on Who Wants to be a Levite, email karenfranklin@... and include the following information: Name, where you family is from (country is sufficient), and whether you would be willing to dress as Haman or Vashti if required (just kidding). Skeletons in the closet or on your family tree preferred (not kidding). All contestants who are selected and appear in the program will receive one-year value-added-services on JewishGen, a $100 value.   https://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen/valueadded.asp  If selected, you will be notified by email by Sunday, February 21. 


Translation from Hebrew needed for gravestone in Kopaigorod #translation

Deborah Friedman
 

I would like a translation of the Hebrew in this headstone (L_14)  in the town of Kopaigorod.
Thank you

Deborah Friedman
Walnut Creek, CA
dsfaec@...

Searching for: FRIEDMAN (KOPAIGOROD UKRAINE), SHULMAN/SCHULMAN (KOPAIGOROD UKRAINE), SPECTOR, GOLOGORSKY, KANSTERIN/KANSTEROOM, LIPSON (JERUSALEM), ZASLER (JERUSALEM, ZASLOW), LEVY, GRATZ/GRATCH, EISENSTEIN (DROHITCHIN), BENIOFF (KIEV AREA), SILBERMANN/SILVERMAN (ZEIL GERMANY), DINKELSPIEL(BADEN, GERMANY), MAIER, WIEDERQUIST, HOROWITZ (KIEV AREA), HESS (NEW ORLEANS), SANGER (NEW ORLEANS AND ALSACE), MAROZ (Ignatovka, Ukraine).


Translation from Hebrew needed for gravestone in Kopaigorod #translation

Deborah Friedman
 

I would like a translation of the Hebrew in this headstone (L_13)  in the town of Kopaigorod.
Thank you

Deborah Friedman
Walnut Creek, CA
dsfaec@...

Searching for: FRIEDMAN (KOPAIGOROD UKRAINE), SHULMAN/SCHULMAN (KOPAIGOROD UKRAINE), SPECTOR, GOLOGORSKY, KANSTERIN/KANSTEROOM, LIPSON (JERUSALEM), ZASLER (JERUSALEM, ZASLOW), LEVY, GRATZ/GRATCH, EISENSTEIN (DROHITCHIN), BENIOFF (KIEV AREA), SILBERMANN/SILVERMAN (ZEIL GERMANY), DINKELSPIEL(BADEN, GERMANY), MAIER, WIEDERQUIST, HOROWITZ (KIEV AREA), HESS (NEW ORLEANS), SANGER (NEW ORLEANS AND ALSACE), MAROZ (Ignatovka, Ukraine).


Janek Jagielski z''l #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

It is with great sadness that I share the news of the passing Janek Jagielski, a giant in the
preservation of Jewish memory in Poland.  
 
In the obituary posted on the Gazeta Wyborcza website, it refers to Janek as "as a walking 
encyclopedia of knowledge about the history of Warsaw's Jews and an unparalleled storyteller."
 
Those of us who collaborated with Janek in any way, whether we sought his advice, traveled
with him or just had the opportunity to spend time with him will remember both his dedication
to this mission, his good humor and ever present smile.  His desire to help all those who
sought his knowledge and advice is something that I personally will always remember.
 
Whenever JRI-Poland was involved with a project related to a cemetery, Janek was always
invited to travel to the site with JRI-Poland representative Chris Malczewski. His presence 
was sure to add to the importance of the work, no matter what form it may have taken.  We
will miss his counsel.
 
Today, Monika Krawczk, Director of the Jewish Historical Institute asked me to share her 
thoughts with the worldwide Jewish genealogical community.  Monika wrote:
 
   "Jan Jagielski was a pioneer in research and documentation of Jewish material heritage in Poland. 
   His work paved path for two generations of researchers and collection of his materials should serve 
   future generations. We will cherish and honour Janek's achievement at Jewish Historical Institute in 
   Warsaw and will dedicate the room in which he worked in at JHI in his memory. We will also carry 
   on the torch he passed to us".
 
His obituary appears on the Jewish Historical Institute at:
 
Obituaries have also appeared online and in various Polish newspapers/sites.  Here are links to two of them.
 
 
 
I have translated the second one from the TVA network using DeepL translation software and 
took the liberty of smoothing a few of the comments as needed:
 
Warsaw, 16 February 2021 
 
Jan Jagielski passed away.
 
Whoever had the opportunity to walk in the Okopowa cemetery with Jan Jagielski will always remember the important sites in this burial ground. He preserved the traces of memory of Jewish communities throughout Poland and documented not only the Jewish cemetery and ghetto in Warsaw, but also other surviving synagogues, houses of prayer and Jewish cemeteries in Poland.
 
Jan Jagielski, researcher of the history of Jewish community in Warsaw, guide
of memorial sites, advocate of saving the traces of Jewish presence in Poland.
 
Jan Jagielski came to Warsaw with his parents as an 8-year-old from Lublin in 1945. He grew up as the city rose from the ruins. His great interest was the disappearing traces of Jewish life in the capital.
 
He matriculated at Staszic, which at that time had Gottwald as its patron saint. After obtaining a master's degree in geochemistry, he worked as a researcher for 30 years at the Institute of Industrial Chemistry in Warsaw.
 
He combined his passion with work in 1991. At that time he joined the Jewish Historical Institute, where he created the department for documenting material traces of the historical presence of Jews on Polish soil.
 
Ten years earlier he undertook the mission of caring for places and monuments connected with the culture and history of Polish Jews. He co-founded the Social Committee for the Preservation of Jewish Cemeteries and Monuments of Jewish Culture, and from 1994 was its chairman.
 
It was his initiative to undertake numerous activities related to restoring Jewish cemeteries in small towns. He engaged young people from Poland and Israel in these works. He was the chairman of the Eternal Remembrance Foundation, established in 1993 on the initiative of the Polish Government, which deals with the restoration of Jewish monuments and the commemoration of places and events related to the history of Jews in Poland.
 
Warsaw. An expert and researcher on the ghetto, the Okopowa cemetery, synagogues and Jewish cemeteries in Poland has passed away. He was the best guide on the traces of Jewish culture in Warsaw.
 
Jan Jagielski left behind a rich legacy in the field that combined his passion with his professional life. He wrote many books about the Jewish cemetery on Okopowa Street, Jewish monuments and the Warsaw Ghetto.
 
In 2009 he received the Irena Sendler awarded from the Taube Foundation  for his contribution to preservation of Jewish heritage in Poland. He is also a Knight of the Order of Polonia Restituta for his achievements in discovering, collecting and disseminating the truth about the Holocaust, and a recipient of the Jan Karski and Pola Nireńska awards. In 2015, he received the silver medal of Merit to Culture "Gloria Artis".
 
A donation in memory of Janek Jagielski, to the Jewish Historical Institute, Warsaw would be an
appropriate way to honor a man who so unselfishly gave so much to those of us who benefited
from his presence and his work.  You can do that at: https://www.jhi.pl/en/donate
 
 
Stanley Diamond M.S.M.
Executive Director
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: How to research Bialystok archives #records #poland

Mikkitobi@...
 

I would add that you should also try the FUZZY search options.

There can be many mismatches caused by errors and differences in spelling, transcription and data entry. Normally differences involving vowels will be captured by PHONETIC or SOUNDEX searches, but for more extreme differences, especially where consonants are involved you need to try one or all of the FUZZY options.

Michael Tobias
Glasgow, Scotland
Co-Founder JRI-Poland


Question on Buchach cemetery list #ukraine

Helen Nash May
 

Hi All,

At the yearly convention held in NY around 2000, I came across a cemetery List for Buchach, Ukraine in the resource room. It was my first convention and you can imagine my surprise and thrill, when upon viewing it, I found a photo of the headstone of my great grandfather, Chaim Aaron of Buchach. His son, Herman’s stone was listed next to it but had fallen over and so was only photographed from the back. I am now wondering about my great grandmother, Chaya Eisner Landes’s headstone. I have found the excel list I had downloaded that day and realized that the next two pictures in the sequence were photographed but did not have any names. I have tried to locate the Buchach list again to see if I could view the photos but without names I got nowhere on the JOWBR site. Can anyone tell me if the list is available anywhere that I might be able to view it plus the photos that were taken with it? The photos were originally taken by Tom and Eric Weiss.

Thanks for any help you can give me.
Helen May
New York


Re: Divorce records #usa

Ina Getzoff
 

Gail:
My husband's maternal grandparents divorced in 1943-his grandfather filed for divorce on their 33rd wedding anniversary in Manhattan. When I tried to get a copy of the divorce papers I was told I had to either get authorization from the two people involved-that was not going to happen since they are both deceased or wait 100 years after the divorce. It was never indicated to me whether or not it was 100 years after the initial filing or when it became final. In any case, what I did end up getting was a copy of the divorce index which you might be able to get from either the court or if there is a local records department in the Bronx. You can also try the Department of Records on Varick Street in Manhattan since the Bronx is one of the five boroughs. In the index I got the name of the two people involved, the date of divorce and the information about the attorney. There was no reason for the divorce listed even though I know that the reason. At that time the only reason for divorce , at least in New York, was adultery.

Good luck and hope this helps.
Ina Getzoff
Delray Beach, Florida


Re: Divorce records #usa

Sherri Bobish
 


Hi Janice,

As Diane stated, divorce records index can be searched at 31 Chambers St., 7th floor.  This site has detailed info, including the phone number for the Old Records on the 7th floor:
http://ww2.nycourts.gov/courts/1jd/supctmanh/county_clerk_records.shtml

I do not know if they are currently allowing researchers in person due to Covid.  Also, I believe Old Records is only open two days per week.  Best to call, and ask if they can look up the name in their index.

Years ago I found a 1913 divorce in the index.  Since it was just short of 100 years I could not see the actual file at that time.  After the 100 year mark had passed than I did see the file.  There is a whole process to order the file and then weeks later to go to a different building to see it.

As Lee and Barbara mentioned, since no-fault divorce did not exist at that time, it is hard to know how true or invented were the accusations in the divorce.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish


Re: NYC Death Records #usa #records

Sherri Bobish
 


Ellen,

Is the name of her father on your ggm's tombstone?

Did your ggm come to The U.S. at a young age?  You may find her on a census with her parents.  You can look for her on U.S. and NY State census' at:  www.familysearch.org

Depending on what decade she arrived in The U.S. (questions asked on the manifests changed over time), you may find a parent's name listed as nearest relative she left behind, or the name of a parent she was bound for in The U.S.

Did she marry in NYC?  A percentage of NYC marriage records are transcribed at:
https://stevemorse.org/vital/nyvital.html?type=marriage

Did she have a Social Security number?  Ancestry has a database of Social Security Applications, some of which provide parent's names.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish


Re: New Find Raises Questions about Family Name: #poland #names

Lee Jaffe
 

In answer to one of your questions, I'd guess (yes, it's a guess) that they adopted the name Grossman in the US as part of the general trend towards assimilation.  I've heard repeatedly from the librarians at CJH that German-sounding names were preferred because they were deemed higher status, as well as easier to pronounce and spell.  (My version only makes sense, however, until you discover your family was indeed named Grossman before emigrating.)

Also, as well as looking at UK Outward Passenger lists, you might want to see if your family appears on records of departing Hamburg passengers, which may have more information.  That is possibly the first leg of their journey and you know about when they got to Glasgow, which may help narrow your search. They may also be traveling under the same names -- approximately -- as found on the Glasgow to NY leg.

Your question raises another that has intrigued me: What paperwork did US Immigration issue to arriving passengers?  I've never seen -- or heard of -- a copy of any documents carried away by new immigrants.  The myth of name changes at Ellis Island presumes that people walked away with a piece of official paper with their new name assignment: otherwise, what compelled people to adopt the new name?  And it is hard to imagine in our day that someone could cross a border, much less immigrate to a new country without receiving paperwork to prove to arrived and took up residence legally.  Yet, for all the naturalization records I've reviewed -- many with arrival information left blank -- and all of the discussions about passenger records, I've never come across any indication of papers issued to new immigrants.   Can anyone on the list clarify what paperwork was produced during the arrival?  Thanks.

Lee Jaffe
whose ggf Mendel SZTEJNSAPIR travelled Hamburg to Hull and Liverpool to NYC as Mendel SAPIER and became an upstanding US citizen named Mendel STEIN.  My ggm Ella followed with 2 children, listed on the manifest as STEINSAPPER.


Re: Are children named for living or dead relatives if one parent is Ashkenazi and one is Sephardic? #names

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

There is no halakhah (jewish law) governing this. The parents need to come to a mutually accepted decision! This is rather common in LA and elsewhere. The Ashkenazi side is shocked that the GF is offered the honor of having the baby named in his honor because of the Ashk custom of only naming after the deceased. Once the Ashk side (in my experience) understand the honor and why, they feel much better about it, and there is less "recoiling in horror" - LOL! 

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
New Mexico


Announcing Publication of the translation of the KobrinYizkor Book #belarus #yizkorbooks

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor-Books-in-Print is proud to announce the Publication of the
translation of the Kobrin Yizkor Book.

Book of Kobrin – The Scroll of Life and Destruction

Original Yizkor Book Edited by: Betzalel Shwartz, Israel Chaim Bil(e)tzki
Published in Tel Aviv 1951
Editors of the original Yizkor Book: Betzalel Shwartz and Israel Chaim
Bil(e)tzki
Layout and Name Indexing: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Hard Cover, 8.5” by 11”, 446 pages with original photographs.

Available from JewishGen for $32

For more information and ordering, go to:

https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Kobryn.html

order at: at bottom of above link

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-in-Print

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