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WWI draft registrations #general

Paul Fisher <fisherpaul@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Does anyone know if Germans and Austrians were forbidden to register for
the draft?

I am looking for two brothers named HASELNUS in Poughkeepsie, Dutchess
Co., New York. After three attempts I just looked at every card under
the letter "H". I live in Atlanta so I can search the originals. I found
some out of order but I could not find these two men. They were about 30
years old in 1920 and >from Austria.

After giving up I found a catalog of Fulton County, Georgia registrants
which states in the Foreword that all men under 45 years of age were
required to register except those >from Germany or Austria. Does this
mean they aren't missing or lost, but that they never registered because
they were forbidden. (They were the enemy.)

See my family trees at
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/9536.genealogy.html

Paul Fisher aka Barry Broude
Atlanta, Georgia

Searching BROUDE (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis, Philadelphia and
South Africa
KAPLAN (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis; FLEISHER (Kelme, Lithuania)
GRABINA (Wyszkow, Poland) became GREENBERG in Minneapolis
ZIMNOWODZ (Warsaw and Wyszkow, Poland)
SHER (Tolstoye, Ukraine) formerly Touste, Austria


Re: good books about personal names #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

About the best book I know for Jewish personal names is A. Beider's "A
Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the Russian Empire". A large percentage of
Jewish SURNAMES are derived >from personal names through the patronymic system
that preceded the taking of family names (and is still used in synagogues).
Beider's analyses of surnames provides much authorative information on the
derivation of the root personal names.

Bob Weiss in Palo Alto
RWeissJGS@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WWI draft registrations #general

Paul Fisher <fisherpaul@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Does anyone know if Germans and Austrians were forbidden to register for
the draft?

I am looking for two brothers named HASELNUS in Poughkeepsie, Dutchess
Co., New York. After three attempts I just looked at every card under
the letter "H". I live in Atlanta so I can search the originals. I found
some out of order but I could not find these two men. They were about 30
years old in 1920 and >from Austria.

After giving up I found a catalog of Fulton County, Georgia registrants
which states in the Foreword that all men under 45 years of age were
required to register except those >from Germany or Austria. Does this
mean they aren't missing or lost, but that they never registered because
they were forbidden. (They were the enemy.)

See my family trees at
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/9536.genealogy.html

Paul Fisher aka Barry Broude
Atlanta, Georgia

Searching BROUDE (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis, Philadelphia and
South Africa
KAPLAN (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis; FLEISHER (Kelme, Lithuania)
GRABINA (Wyszkow, Poland) became GREENBERG in Minneapolis
ZIMNOWODZ (Warsaw and Wyszkow, Poland)
SHER (Tolstoye, Ukraine) formerly Touste, Austria


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: good books about personal names #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

About the best book I know for Jewish personal names is A. Beider's "A
Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the Russian Empire". A large percentage of
Jewish SURNAMES are derived >from personal names through the patronymic system
that preceded the taking of family names (and is still used in synagogues).
Beider's analyses of surnames provides much authorative information on the
derivation of the root personal names.

Bob Weiss in Palo Alto
RWeissJGS@...


Re: Abolnik/Abalnik/Abolniki in Lithuania. #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

Mrs. Rica B Goldberg of Manchester, England asked:


<<Can anyone please help me? Does anyone recognise the name of this town

(Abolnik) in Lithuania and where it is?>>

Could it be Abolai, located at 5421/2528 in the S'alc'ininkai District? A
person >from Abolai might be called an "Abolnik". This suggestion puts great
stock in the second vowel "o".

If the second vowel could be an "e" (Abelnik) then my bet goes to the town of
Obeliai/Abel/Obel at 5556/2548 which is mentioned in Where Once We Walked
which notes many citations of Jewish references.

Bob Weiss in Palo Alto
RWeissJGS@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Abolnik/Abalnik/Abolniki in Lithuania. #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

Mrs. Rica B Goldberg of Manchester, England asked:


<<Can anyone please help me? Does anyone recognise the name of this town

(Abolnik) in Lithuania and where it is?>>

Could it be Abolai, located at 5421/2528 in the S'alc'ininkai District? A
person >from Abolai might be called an "Abolnik". This suggestion puts great
stock in the second vowel "o".

If the second vowel could be an "e" (Abelnik) then my bet goes to the town of
Obeliai/Abel/Obel at 5556/2548 which is mentioned in Where Once We Walked
which notes many citations of Jewish references.

Bob Weiss in Palo Alto
RWeissJGS@...


Photograph Identification #general

David Aron <davidaron@...>
 

I have a couple of photographs >from around 1900 that I would like to
indentify. They could be >from Lithuania, Poland, Russia or Germany.

The photo frames have a printed signature logo on them which says Otto
Schrodeu. There is an umlaut over the 'o' which would suggest that it was
German or was done by a German. Under the signature logo the company name
is mentioned being Heilbronn A/N.

Would anyone have any suggestions on where these photographs would have
been take.

David Aron
London, UK

Searching:
ARON (Siauliai, Lithuania)
SOBERSKY (Dusseldorf and Berlin)
CONRADT (Berlin and Biala)
ELSASS (Frankfurt)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photograph Identification #general

David Aron <davidaron@...>
 

I have a couple of photographs >from around 1900 that I would like to
indentify. They could be >from Lithuania, Poland, Russia or Germany.

The photo frames have a printed signature logo on them which says Otto
Schrodeu. There is an umlaut over the 'o' which would suggest that it was
German or was done by a German. Under the signature logo the company name
is mentioned being Heilbronn A/N.

Would anyone have any suggestions on where these photographs would have
been take.

David Aron
London, UK

Searching:
ARON (Siauliai, Lithuania)
SOBERSKY (Dusseldorf and Berlin)
CONRADT (Berlin and Biala)
ELSASS (Frankfurt)


IGS NEGEV meeting #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

The Israel Genealogy Society of the Negev is thrilled to be
able to invite you to a meeting on Wednesday, 10 February with
Susan KING and Karen FRANKLIN. As you know, Susan is the
moving spirit behind Jewishgen, and Karen is the president of
the IAJGS and LBI. We will have a chance to listen to future
plans for Jewish genealogy and to talk in person with these
generous spirits.

You can come to
Kehilat Magen Avraham
Rehov Ad-Ad 11 (Corner of Rehov Margalit)
Omer
anytime >from 1930 when the library opens. The talk will begin
at 2000. If you are in the area, this is one meeting you
shouldn't miss!

Martha Lev-Zion


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGS NEGEV meeting #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

The Israel Genealogy Society of the Negev is thrilled to be
able to invite you to a meeting on Wednesday, 10 February with
Susan KING and Karen FRANKLIN. As you know, Susan is the
moving spirit behind Jewishgen, and Karen is the president of
the IAJGS and LBI. We will have a chance to listen to future
plans for Jewish genealogy and to talk in person with these
generous spirits.

You can come to
Kehilat Magen Avraham
Rehov Ad-Ad 11 (Corner of Rehov Margalit)
Omer
anytime >from 1930 when the library opens. The talk will begin
at 2000. If you are in the area, this is one meeting you
shouldn't miss!

Martha Lev-Zion


Yiddish Theater at the New York Public Library #general

David W. Harris <dharris1@...>
 

I am researching a relative, Sezar GREENBERG, and a bibliographic reference
is made to the Jewish Theatrical News, Volume 1, March 1925, an article
titled Yiddish Theater Myths Smashed.

I have reviewed the Library of Congress catalogue and they do not have it
among their holdings. If someone is going to the New York Public Library
for research, I would appreciate them checking to see if the NY Library has
a copy and the call number for an interlibrary loan.

Thanks for any help provided.

David W. Harris
Silver Spring, MD
<dharris1@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish Theater at the New York Public Library #general

David W. Harris <dharris1@...>
 

I am researching a relative, Sezar GREENBERG, and a bibliographic reference
is made to the Jewish Theatrical News, Volume 1, March 1925, an article
titled Yiddish Theater Myths Smashed.

I have reviewed the Library of Congress catalogue and they do not have it
among their holdings. If someone is going to the New York Public Library
for research, I would appreciate them checking to see if the NY Library has
a copy and the call number for an interlibrary loan.

Thanks for any help provided.

David W. Harris
Silver Spring, MD
<dharris1@...>


Searching: Louis R. POSNER, Russia to NYC, 1917 #general

Marc Posner <posner@...>
 

My name is Emily Posner, I am 11 years old in the 5th grade, studying my
heritage, and I am searching for the meaning of my last name: POSNER. My
great grandfather Louis R. Posner came >from Pale of Settlement Russia in
1917 to NYC. Does anyone know anything about the name or my grandfather's
family? Please help. Thanks.

Emily Posner

MODERATOR NOTE: You can get a list of all the resources
available on our website by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org.
Consult our InfoFiles for books on names. The Discussion Group Archives
at http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop might also
yield some relevant information.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Louis R. POSNER, Russia to NYC, 1917 #general

Marc Posner <posner@...>
 

My name is Emily Posner, I am 11 years old in the 5th grade, studying my
heritage, and I am searching for the meaning of my last name: POSNER. My
great grandfather Louis R. Posner came >from Pale of Settlement Russia in
1917 to NYC. Does anyone know anything about the name or my grandfather's
family? Please help. Thanks.

Emily Posner

MODERATOR NOTE: You can get a list of all the resources
available on our website by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org.
Consult our InfoFiles for books on names. The Discussion Group Archives
at http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop might also
yield some relevant information.


Bank and Insurance information #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

In the course of our project to identify every Pickhol(t)z
that ever was, one of our team came up with a list of
thirteen unclaimed New York accounts (some bank, some
insurance). The information includes name, address, name
of institution and account number. No idea how old any
of these accounts are.

Even if we cannot get anything further, we have already
learned names of two women residing at addresses where
we previously had only mens'names and two men with a single
address that we didn't have before at all. (The men were
probably business partners as well as cousins or brothers.
They have consecutive account numbers. Or maybe their
parents opened accounts for them when they were kids.)

I must say that I don't understand how stuff like this gets
on line to begin with, but I'd like some guidance on where
to go >from here. If I write to these institutions looking
for dates, parents' names etc, what can I expect? (I'd really
like next of kin for the dead ones, but if the bank knew that,
the accounts wouldn't be unclaimed - right? I mean this isn't
Switzerland or Austria we're talking about.)

Also, does anyone know how to access this kind of list for
places other than New York?

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bank and Insurance information #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

In the course of our project to identify every Pickhol(t)z
that ever was, one of our team came up with a list of
thirteen unclaimed New York accounts (some bank, some
insurance). The information includes name, address, name
of institution and account number. No idea how old any
of these accounts are.

Even if we cannot get anything further, we have already
learned names of two women residing at addresses where
we previously had only mens'names and two men with a single
address that we didn't have before at all. (The men were
probably business partners as well as cousins or brothers.
They have consecutive account numbers. Or maybe their
parents opened accounts for them when they were kids.)

I must say that I don't understand how stuff like this gets
on line to begin with, but I'd like some guidance on where
to go >from here. If I write to these institutions looking
for dates, parents' names etc, what can I expect? (I'd really
like next of kin for the dead ones, but if the bank knew that,
the accounts wouldn't be unclaimed - right? I mean this isn't
Switzerland or Austria we're talking about.)

Also, does anyone know how to access this kind of list for
places other than New York?

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@...


Re: French Relatives:Finding Schneirson #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 99-02-06 15:10:49 EST, MWhippman@... writes:

<< Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward way to search for,
say, a death certificate under the given name in this case SCHNIERSON >>
Schneirson was the name of the founder of the Chabad (Lubbavitch) Hassidic
movement. I don't know if that name occurs outside his immediate family and
descendants. I suggest you contact your nearest Chabad/Lubavitsch center and
request information to contacting the Chabad center near where your relative
may have been buried. They tend to encourage members of that family to be
buried under Chabad auspices--even if they've strayed far >from Orthodoxy.


Michael Bernet, New York

seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET, BERNERTH etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth; JONDORF, Bavaria
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF, Aron married Babette GOLDSCHMIDT ca 1860 in Frankfurt;
WOLF, Sali, b. Fkfrt, d. Rotterrdam 1941/2; WOLF, GOLDSCHMIDT, Wurzburg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: French Relatives:Finding Schneirson #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 99-02-06 15:10:49 EST, MWhippman@... writes:

<< Can anyone tell me whether there is a straightforward way to search for,
say, a death certificate under the given name in this case SCHNIERSON >>
Schneirson was the name of the founder of the Chabad (Lubbavitch) Hassidic
movement. I don't know if that name occurs outside his immediate family and
descendants. I suggest you contact your nearest Chabad/Lubavitsch center and
request information to contacting the Chabad center near where your relative
may have been buried. They tend to encourage members of that family to be
buried under Chabad auspices--even if they've strayed far >from Orthodoxy.


Michael Bernet, New York

seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET, BERNERTH etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth; JONDORF, Bavaria
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF, Aron married Babette GOLDSCHMIDT ca 1860 in Frankfurt;
WOLF, Sali, b. Fkfrt, d. Rotterrdam 1941/2; WOLF, GOLDSCHMIDT, Wurzburg


breakthrough in Poland #poland

Robert Heyman <robeh@...>
 

Since I began my genealogical research, I have had a lot of success
on my KESTENBERG ancestry in Poland, but I was completely stuck on my
DANZIGER ancestry. The most I could find out was my gg-grandfather's
name Zachariah DANZIGER - I didn't know his wife's name or the town
they came >from (I knew he nad moved to Bedzin >from somewhere).

The first break came a little over two years ago when my cousin found
a lot of original papers that my g-grandfather Esrael DANZIGER
brought with him >from Poland. Among them was his marriage
certificate, identifying his parents as Zachariah DANZIGER and Laja
BLUMENFRUCHT of Proszowice.

Still, Proszowice had no records, so this didn't seem to be a huge
help. Until a few months ago, when I was told that the Jedrzejow
archives have records >from the town of Miechow (not microfilmed), and
the towns of Proszowice, Slomniki, and Ksiaz Wielke registered their
events in Miechow. I wrote to the Polish archives, and recently
received my gg-grandparent's marriage certificate, dated 1879 in
Proszowice. Zachariah was the son of Salomon DANZIGER and Fraydl
NAJMAN of Miechow, and Laja was the daughter of Icyk
BLUMENFRUCHT and Nicha WEKSLER of Pinczow. My two new
ancestral names are now in JGFF.

The DANZIGER-NAJMAN ancestry will still be a challenge since Miechow
records only begin in 1870, but with Pinczow apparently completely
microfilmed >from 1808-1877 (anyone research Pinczow records - is this
right?) , I think I have a good chance with the
BLUMENFRUCHT-WEKSLER ancestry.

Robert Heyman, (Baltimore, MD)
robeh@...
http://www.mindspring.com/~robeh


More Polish Translations #poland

Regela@...
 

Hi Dan,

Though you have probably have more than enough, thought I would send a few
more translations for you Polish words.

1 - Nauczyciel, close to naucz, can also be translated as a tutor, a
schoolmaster, a preceptor, and a pedegogue.

2 - Kamasz, close to kamaszn, also means a boot or shoe.

3 - Zarzecze, close to zarz, is a town near Jaroslaw (which has nothing to do
with a profession but perhaps interesting).

3 - Fabrycznie, close to fabr, means - by machinery. Other close words to
fabr are: fabryka -- factory, plant, or mill; fabrykant -- factory owner.

4 - Kup translates into the verb "to buy" and kupiec can translate into ring
trader,
shop keeper, dealer, or merchant.

Best,
Reggie Silberberg