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304 subscribers #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

It happened!!! I checked the subscription list (as I do almost every other
day)hoping to find 300 or perhaps even 301 subscribers, lo and behold I see
the number 304 staring at me >from my monitor- two members joined on February 6th and two today. Thank G-d, it really is a great day. Recently, I was e-mailed a story which emphasized to me the importance of networking and synergy. I don't have permission yet to tell the complete story, but it involves a new subscriber who posted information about her family. Another subscriber picked up on one of the family names mentioned, and they are in the process of determining a match. When the relationship can be verified the story will be released. I mention it because the chances of matching families and making connections grow more probable with increased membership and participation.

Louis Schonfeld

Please visit our website at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/


Hungary SIG #Hungary 304 subscribers #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

It happened!!! I checked the subscription list (as I do almost every other
day)hoping to find 300 or perhaps even 301 subscribers, lo and behold I see
the number 304 staring at me >from my monitor- two members joined on February 6th and two today. Thank G-d, it really is a great day. Recently, I was e-mailed a story which emphasized to me the importance of networking and synergy. I don't have permission yet to tell the complete story, but it involves a new subscriber who posted information about her family. Another subscriber picked up on one of the family names mentioned, and they are in the process of determining a match. When the relationship can be verified the story will be released. I mention it because the chances of matching families and making connections grow more probable with increased membership and participation.

Louis Schonfeld

Please visit our website at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/


Slonimer Yeshiva #belarus

ANDREW LOEWENSTEIN <loewensa@...>
 

Many members of my paternal grandmother's family (KAMENETSKY) attended
the Slonimer Yeshiva in Slonim. Does anyone have any information about
this institution? I recall once hearing that the school has moved to
Israel and is now called something like the Rabbinical College of Slonim.
Does anyone think that they might still have records dating back to the
19th c.?ury?

Thanks,
Andrew Loewenstein
loewensa@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Slonimer Yeshiva #belarus

ANDREW LOEWENSTEIN <loewensa@...>
 

Many members of my paternal grandmother's family (KAMENETSKY) attended
the Slonimer Yeshiva in Slonim. Does anyone have any information about
this institution? I recall once hearing that the school has moved to
Israel and is now called something like the Rabbinical College of Slonim.
Does anyone think that they might still have records dating back to the
19th c.?ury?

Thanks,
Andrew Loewenstein
loewensa@...


Re: Max = MORDECHAI Toonkel #belarus

tunkelr@...
 

GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
According to this information (immigration story) MAX TOONKEL was
MORDECHAI Toonkel! I am in contact with this family! Thanks to you now I
know who was MAX Toonkel.
One question left. Why his living dates so strange inaccurate? Is it
possible find out more accurate date of birth and death?
Thank's again.
Roman Tunkel,
tunkelr@...


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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:14:19 EST NRINSMA0@... writes:
Roman, I found a Max Toonkel, with wife Bessie Karon, both >from the
village of
Babrusk, Belarus, USSR... I think this is the one for which you're
looking....? He, born ca 1851-1880, died between 1905-1965, at New York
City, employment was plumbing supplies, Jewish..... She born between
1860 and 1883, died 1 January 1963, also at NYC, a housewife, Jewish....
No data about either of their parents. They had a daughter, Betty, born
4 July 1902 at NYC., died 28 May 1948. She married Arthur Guinzburg 1
January 1928 at NYC. A note mentions she/they lived in the Bronx
section of NYC. Parents of three children, Irma Reisha, Anita Jean, and
Paul. They all married and have/had children of their own, and as far as
I can tell are still living..... This information comes >from the World
Family Tree, volume 3, tree #4667. Information is only as accurate as the
person who gave it............ That person can be contacted if you
desire. Nancy


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Max = MORDECHAI Toonkel #belarus

tunkelr@...
 

GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
According to this information (immigration story) MAX TOONKEL was
MORDECHAI Toonkel! I am in contact with this family! Thanks to you now I
know who was MAX Toonkel.
One question left. Why his living dates so strange inaccurate? Is it
possible find out more accurate date of birth and death?
Thank's again.
Roman Tunkel,
tunkelr@...


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****************
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:14:19 EST NRINSMA0@... writes:
Roman, I found a Max Toonkel, with wife Bessie Karon, both >from the
village of
Babrusk, Belarus, USSR... I think this is the one for which you're
looking....? He, born ca 1851-1880, died between 1905-1965, at New York
City, employment was plumbing supplies, Jewish..... She born between
1860 and 1883, died 1 January 1963, also at NYC, a housewife, Jewish....
No data about either of their parents. They had a daughter, Betty, born
4 July 1902 at NYC., died 28 May 1948. She married Arthur Guinzburg 1
January 1928 at NYC. A note mentions she/they lived in the Bronx
section of NYC. Parents of three children, Irma Reisha, Anita Jean, and
Paul. They all married and have/had children of their own, and as far as
I can tell are still living..... This information comes >from the World
Family Tree, volume 3, tree #4667. Information is only as accurate as the
person who gave it............ That person can be contacted if you
desire. Nancy


Re: JewishGen FTJP security #belarus

Martin Kessel <mkessel@...>
 

At 09:31 PM 2/4/99 -0800, skydell@... (Carol Skydell) wrote,
forwarding a message >from Warren Blatt:

All JewishGen databases are protected >from spiders because they
are located on a part of our web server which cannot be seen >from the
outside world -- there are no paths or mappings to them. The only way to
access the data is via our own search engine interface. Spiders and other
automated data-mining robots do not access data via search engine
interfaces -- they only access data on static web pages.
The above statement would apply equally to the Yizkor Book Database.
Although accessing our database does not require a password, as does FTJP,
many of the other security features described by Warren do apply to our
database. For this reason, we do encourage people submitting their names
for the Yizkor Book Database to include e-mail and regular addresses
without fear that anyone would be able to "harvest" and sell these addresses.

Martin Kessel, Project Manager mkessel@...
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project

For information about the Yizkor Book Project,
visit our Web page at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/>
or send a blank e-mail message to: <yizkor2@...>


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: JewishGen FTJP security #yizkorbooks

Martin Kessel <mkessel@...>
 

At 09:31 PM 2/4/99 -0800, skydell@... (Carol Skydell) wrote,
forwarding a message >from Warren Blatt:

All JewishGen databases are protected >from spiders because they
are located on a part of our web server which cannot be seen >from the
outside world -- there are no paths or mappings to them. The only way to
access the data is via our own search engine interface. Spiders and other
automated data-mining robots do not access data via search engine
interfaces -- they only access data on static web pages.
The above statement would apply equally to the Yizkor Book Database.
Although accessing our database does not require a password, as does FTJP,
many of the other security features described by Warren do apply to our
database. For this reason, we do encourage people submitting their names
for the Yizkor Book Database to include e-mail and regular addresses
without fear that anyone would be able to "harvest" and sell these addresses.

Martin Kessel, Project Manager mkessel@...
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project

For information about the Yizkor Book Project,
visit our Web page at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/>
or send a blank e-mail message to: <yizkor2@...>


JewishGen FTJP security #yizkorbooks

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Yizkor book mailing list

This message is being forwarded >from one posted to the JewishGen Discussion
Group in order to counteract some
misinformation posted to some of the SIG mailing lists last night.
---------FWD MESSAGE--------
There seems to be some significant mis-information floating
around regarding the security of data in the JewishGen online version of
the Family Tree of The Jewish People (FTJP).

The data in the JewishGen online version of the FTJP is stored
in a database. That data is NOT accessible to Internet spiders, or for
random retrieval of information.

All JewishGen databases are protected >from spiders because they
are located on a part of our web server which cannot be seen >from the
outside world -- there are no paths or mappings to them. The only way to
access the data is via our own search engine interface. Spiders and other
automated data-mining robots do not access data via search engine
interfaces -- they only access data on static web pages.

The FTJP is further protected because a JGFF researcher code and
password are required to begin using the search engine. Data in all
JewishGen databases is very well protected. Usage is carefully monitored
by our volunteers. We always know who is accessing any database, how they
are querying it, etc. We always have detailed log files of every
transaction, and can track any user back to their ISP in case of abuse.

We also have a system set up which will not allow a user to hit
any of our databases in rapid succession for very long because alarms are
generated if anything out of the ordinary occurs.

These database protection mechanisms have been in place for
quite some time. Furthermore, all the GEDCOM data submitted to the
JewishGen FTJP is first stripped of all data for living persons, using the
"100 year rule". Only the names and relationships of living persons
appear -- neither birthdates nor birthplaces nor marriage
dates/places are included.

Researchers are entitled to be concerned about the security of
their genealogical data, and its accuracy. We anticipated these concerns
when designing the new JewishGen online FTJP.

JewishGen can and will remove any submitter's data >from the
online version within in a matter of seconds, upon request of the
submitter to <ftjphelp@...>
People have already asked us to remove their data >from the FTJP, for a
variety of reasons. Security is way down at the bottom of the list of
reasons. Most data has been removed because errors were spotted in the
data and the researcher wanted it removed as quickly as possible while a
revised file was prepared.

Once informed that the data is to be removed, for whatever
reason, the FTJP Help Desk can do so in a matter of seconds.

JewishGen's FTJP is the only practical way to get family trees
up on the Web with password protection.

For more information about the JewishGen FTJP, see
<http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom>, and address your concerns to:
<ftjphelp@...>.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
JewishGen, Inc.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks JewishGen FTJP security #yizkorbooks

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Yizkor book mailing list

This message is being forwarded >from one posted to the JewishGen Discussion
Group in order to counteract some
misinformation posted to some of the SIG mailing lists last night.
---------FWD MESSAGE--------
There seems to be some significant mis-information floating
around regarding the security of data in the JewishGen online version of
the Family Tree of The Jewish People (FTJP).

The data in the JewishGen online version of the FTJP is stored
in a database. That data is NOT accessible to Internet spiders, or for
random retrieval of information.

All JewishGen databases are protected >from spiders because they
are located on a part of our web server which cannot be seen >from the
outside world -- there are no paths or mappings to them. The only way to
access the data is via our own search engine interface. Spiders and other
automated data-mining robots do not access data via search engine
interfaces -- they only access data on static web pages.

The FTJP is further protected because a JGFF researcher code and
password are required to begin using the search engine. Data in all
JewishGen databases is very well protected. Usage is carefully monitored
by our volunteers. We always know who is accessing any database, how they
are querying it, etc. We always have detailed log files of every
transaction, and can track any user back to their ISP in case of abuse.

We also have a system set up which will not allow a user to hit
any of our databases in rapid succession for very long because alarms are
generated if anything out of the ordinary occurs.

These database protection mechanisms have been in place for
quite some time. Furthermore, all the GEDCOM data submitted to the
JewishGen FTJP is first stripped of all data for living persons, using the
"100 year rule". Only the names and relationships of living persons
appear -- neither birthdates nor birthplaces nor marriage
dates/places are included.

Researchers are entitled to be concerned about the security of
their genealogical data, and its accuracy. We anticipated these concerns
when designing the new JewishGen online FTJP.

JewishGen can and will remove any submitter's data >from the
online version within in a matter of seconds, upon request of the
submitter to <ftjphelp@...>
People have already asked us to remove their data >from the FTJP, for a
variety of reasons. Security is way down at the bottom of the list of
reasons. Most data has been removed because errors were spotted in the
data and the researcher wanted it removed as quickly as possible while a
revised file was prepared.

Once informed that the data is to be removed, for whatever
reason, the FTJP Help Desk can do so in a matter of seconds.

JewishGen's FTJP is the only practical way to get family trees
up on the Web with password protection.

For more information about the JewishGen FTJP, see
<http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom>, and address your concerns to:
<ftjphelp@...>.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
JewishGen, Inc.


Re: American "Bastardizations" of European and Hebrew Names #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

I am constantly amazed by the havoc wrought by the
English language on Hebrew and European Jewish names.
[snip]

I'd like to endorse everything James Bennett said -- except to point out
that it's not the English language per se that wreaks the "havoc" -- it's
the ignorance of foreign languages on the part of most Anglophones.

Knowledge of virtually any language other than English yields a bonus for
Jewish genealogy. Exposure to the "normal" values of the Roman-alphabet
vowels -- fairly consistent in European languages EXCEPT English -- helps
a lot in doping out the pronunciation of names we encounter in our research
-- as Mr. Bennett's example of Ya'aqov/Jakob vs. English "Jacob" made very
clear.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: American "Bastardizations" of European and Hebrew Names #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

I am constantly amazed by the havoc wrought by the
English language on Hebrew and European Jewish names.
[snip]

I'd like to endorse everything James Bennett said -- except to point out
that it's not the English language per se that wreaks the "havoc" -- it's
the ignorance of foreign languages on the part of most Anglophones.

Knowledge of virtually any language other than English yields a bonus for
Jewish genealogy. Exposure to the "normal" values of the Roman-alphabet
vowels -- fairly consistent in European languages EXCEPT English -- helps
a lot in doping out the pronunciation of names we encounter in our research
-- as Mr. Bennett's example of Ya'aqov/Jakob vs. English "Jacob" made very
clear.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: SCHWARZ, WEISS, GROSS, KLEIN etc. as names in Hungary #general

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

The story is apocryphal. Learn the truth about Hungarian Jewish names by
visiting the H-sig website, sponsored by Jewishgen.

Louis Schonfeld

MBernet@... wrote in message

Ten or fifteen years ago, long before I had an interest in genealogy, I
was
told that when Hungarian Jews were required to take surnames, that the
Jews
were divided into four groups: Black, White, Large and Small -- hence the
four very common Hungarian names:Schwartz, Weiss, Gross and Klein. >>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SCHWARZ, WEISS, GROSS, KLEIN etc. as names in Hungary #general

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

The story is apocryphal. Learn the truth about Hungarian Jewish names by
visiting the H-sig website, sponsored by Jewishgen.

Louis Schonfeld

MBernet@... wrote in message

Ten or fifteen years ago, long before I had an interest in genealogy, I
was
told that when Hungarian Jews were required to take surnames, that the
Jews
were divided into four groups: Black, White, Large and Small -- hence the
four very common Hungarian names:Schwartz, Weiss, Gross and Klein. >>


Searching: Louis WINTZ - Odessa, Russia - 1890-1898 #general

Goniper <goniper@...>
 

I am trying to determine if there was a Louis Wintz living in Odessa, Russia
during the period of 1890-1908. He wife was Freuda and they had a daughter
Tania who was born in 1890 in Odessa. The may have also had a son (birth year
unknown). Does anyone have any sugestions on how I might find any information
about this Louis Wintz?

Rich Sinykin
Minneapolis, Minnesota
goniper@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Louis WINTZ - Odessa, Russia - 1890-1898 #general

Goniper <goniper@...>
 

I am trying to determine if there was a Louis Wintz living in Odessa, Russia
during the period of 1890-1908. He wife was Freuda and they had a daughter
Tania who was born in 1890 in Odessa. The may have also had a son (birth year
unknown). Does anyone have any sugestions on how I might find any information
about this Louis Wintz?

Rich Sinykin
Minneapolis, Minnesota
goniper@...


Deportation from Munich to Piaski-Apr.4, 1942 #general

jon.page@...
 

I have two relatives who were deported >from Munich (Milbertshofen) to Piaski
on April 4, 1942. Does anyone have information about this particular
transport? I am curious about the conditions at Milbertshofen, during the
transport, and what followed in Poland.

Any references to published work would also be appreciated.

Goya Page


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Deportation from Munich to Piaski-Apr.4, 1942 #general

jon.page@...
 

I have two relatives who were deported >from Munich (Milbertshofen) to Piaski
on April 4, 1942. Does anyone have information about this particular
transport? I am curious about the conditions at Milbertshofen, during the
transport, and what followed in Poland.

Any references to published work would also be appreciated.

Goya Page


NYC repositories open Sun? #general

D. Abrams <dabrams1@...>
 

Hi-

Does anyone know of any libraries or other repositories in Manhattan with
holdings useful for genealogical research that are open on Sundays? I'm
interested in passenger manifests, census records, city directories and
other standard sources.
Thanks,
Dena Abrams
Merrick, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC repositories open Sun? #general

D. Abrams <dabrams1@...>
 

Hi-

Does anyone know of any libraries or other repositories in Manhattan with
holdings useful for genealogical research that are open on Sundays? I'm
interested in passenger manifests, census records, city directories and
other standard sources.
Thanks,
Dena Abrams
Merrick, NY