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Searching: Pesach GORDON, b.1850s, Vidzy (Belarus)/Widze (Lith.) #general

Marilyn Escue <escue@...>
 

Hello group,
I am searching for my beloved, Andrew GORDON. His father Harry was born
in US in 1911, sibs are Gus, Ben, Sam and Bess. Supposedly the family
emigrated >from Vidzy, Belarus (Widze, Lithuania)
The family says Pesach GORDON, born about 1850, had 19 children, and
Heinrich might be one of the sons.
Can anyone give me a lead to follow? I'm waiting breathlessly for the
Lithuanian Revision list database.
Marilyn Escue


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Pesach GORDON, b.1850s, Vidzy (Belarus)/Widze (Lith.) #general

Marilyn Escue <escue@...>
 

Hello group,
I am searching for my beloved, Andrew GORDON. His father Harry was born
in US in 1911, sibs are Gus, Ben, Sam and Bess. Supposedly the family
emigrated >from Vidzy, Belarus (Widze, Lithuania)
The family says Pesach GORDON, born about 1850, had 19 children, and
Heinrich might be one of the sons.
Can anyone give me a lead to follow? I'm waiting breathlessly for the
Lithuanian Revision list database.
Marilyn Escue


Searching VALENTIN/HEINRICH; 1850-1960, Germany #general

Pat Powers Schlesinger <ppsprc@...>
 

Searching singer/actor who traveled through Germany, Lithuania,
Russia:

Karl Heinrich SEELE or professionally AKA Karl HEINRICH 1869
Heidenheim ab der Brenz (nr Ulm)-drowned in Hamburg 1911
+ m Margarette VALENTIN Sept 1870-March 1 1959 Berlin DE

Karl had a younger sister, NU, and a brother, Martin SEELE,
??Heidenheim-??.

Richard VALENTIN was an associate of Max Rheinhart and worked with
Maxim Gorky ... named his own son Maxim.

Unfortunately, this is not the family of Karl VALENTIN to whom a
museum in Munich is devoted ... in fact that Valentin's real name
is FEY.

Very anxious for a clue/suggestion of any sort.

Cheers, Patps
New Hampton NH USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching VALENTIN/HEINRICH; 1850-1960, Germany #general

Pat Powers Schlesinger <ppsprc@...>
 

Searching singer/actor who traveled through Germany, Lithuania,
Russia:

Karl Heinrich SEELE or professionally AKA Karl HEINRICH 1869
Heidenheim ab der Brenz (nr Ulm)-drowned in Hamburg 1911
+ m Margarette VALENTIN Sept 1870-March 1 1959 Berlin DE

Karl had a younger sister, NU, and a brother, Martin SEELE,
??Heidenheim-??.

Richard VALENTIN was an associate of Max Rheinhart and worked with
Maxim Gorky ... named his own son Maxim.

Unfortunately, this is not the family of Karl VALENTIN to whom a
museum in Munich is devoted ... in fact that Valentin's real name
is FEY.

Very anxious for a clue/suggestion of any sort.

Cheers, Patps
New Hampton NH USA


Belarus Regional Archives #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

I am posting the following private e-mail message that I received today
from Sallyann Sack, the editor of "Avotaynu". Perhaps it will open up
some new avenues for those who have not yet been able to locate records
for their shtetls. If anyone makes contact with any of the regional
archives, please share the information by posting a message to this
discussion group.

Subject: Regional Museums
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:44:34 -0800
From: Sallyann Sack
To: Fox@...

Dear Dave,

Over the years, this has been mentioned many times, but it probably can't
be repeated too much. Every genealogist with roots in the former Soviet
Union should write a letter [in Russian, Lithuanian, etc.] addressed to:
"Director, [name of shtetl] Regional Museum, [name of shtetl and
country].

Recently, I did that for the tiny Belarussian town of Braslav, [after
being given the director's name by Vitalya Gircyte, the Kaunas
archivist]. I received a very cordial, quick reply telling me of records
in Molodechno, a place I would never have looked. It seems that the Minsk
archives has a sub-archive in that town.

By the way, for this tiny town in Belarus I have gotten family records
from the Latvian archives in Riga, >from Kaunas, Vilnius, Minsk--and now,
Molodechno. It's important to realize that
a) our relatives moved around a great deal more than we tend to realize
b) boundary changes mean that many records are not where we expect them
to be.

Sallyann

David Fox
fox@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarus Regional Archives #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

I am posting the following private e-mail message that I received today
from Sallyann Sack, the editor of "Avotaynu". Perhaps it will open up
some new avenues for those who have not yet been able to locate records
for their shtetls. If anyone makes contact with any of the regional
archives, please share the information by posting a message to this
discussion group.

Subject: Regional Museums
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:44:34 -0800
From: Sallyann Sack
To: Fox@...

Dear Dave,

Over the years, this has been mentioned many times, but it probably can't
be repeated too much. Every genealogist with roots in the former Soviet
Union should write a letter [in Russian, Lithuanian, etc.] addressed to:
"Director, [name of shtetl] Regional Museum, [name of shtetl and
country].

Recently, I did that for the tiny Belarussian town of Braslav, [after
being given the director's name by Vitalya Gircyte, the Kaunas
archivist]. I received a very cordial, quick reply telling me of records
in Molodechno, a place I would never have looked. It seems that the Minsk
archives has a sub-archive in that town.

By the way, for this tiny town in Belarus I have gotten family records
from the Latvian archives in Riga, >from Kaunas, Vilnius, Minsk--and now,
Molodechno. It's important to realize that
a) our relatives moved around a great deal more than we tend to realize
b) boundary changes mean that many records are not where we expect them
to be.

Sallyann

David Fox
fox@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Re: Tranlations #poland

Paul & Joan Blumstein <pbjb@...>
 

At 10:01 PM -0800 2/2/99, Daniel Kazez typeth thusly:
I am seeking the translation for four Polish words indicating
professions:

naucz.

kamaszn.

zarz fabr.

kup.

Can you help?
According to my modern Polish dictionary:

nauczyciel = teacher
zarzadca = administrator, manager
fabryka =factory, works, mill, plant
kupiec = merchant, tradesman, dealer

The other one is tough. The closest word is kamasz which means gaiter.
Maybe it was colloguial based on a type of person that wore fancy pants???

Paul


Re: jri-pl digest: February 02, 1999 #poland

HNRosen@...
 

In a message dated 2/2/99 10:04:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, jri-
pl@... writes:

Daniel-- The "Polish Occupation Definitions" (JewishGen InfoFile) shows:

naucz.
teacher, schoolmaster

kamaszn.
(not sure)

zarz fabr.
dyer

kup.
merchant

Take a look at the file, it's interesting!

Regards,

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles
HNRosen@...


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Tranlations #poland

Paul & Joan Blumstein <pbjb@...>
 

At 10:01 PM -0800 2/2/99, Daniel Kazez typeth thusly:
I am seeking the translation for four Polish words indicating
professions:

naucz.

kamaszn.

zarz fabr.

kup.

Can you help?
According to my modern Polish dictionary:

nauczyciel = teacher
zarzadca = administrator, manager
fabryka =factory, works, mill, plant
kupiec = merchant, tradesman, dealer

The other one is tough. The closest word is kamasz which means gaiter.
Maybe it was colloguial based on a type of person that wore fancy pants???

Paul


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: February 02, 1999 #poland

HNRosen@...
 

In a message dated 2/2/99 10:04:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, jri-
pl@... writes:

Daniel-- The "Polish Occupation Definitions" (JewishGen InfoFile) shows:

naucz.
teacher, schoolmaster

kamaszn.
(not sure)

zarz fabr.
dyer

kup.
merchant

Take a look at the file, it's interesting!

Regards,

Howard Rosen
Los Angeles
HNRosen@...


Re: "Rivermen" (Tutajosok) - about the 1882 trial of Rutenian Jews... #hungary

Gzsuzsi@...
 

It is the same movie. Have seen both titles to it.

Susan Geroe

In a message dated 2/3/99 4:29:39 AM, MGS18@... writes:

<< >"Rivermen" (Tutajosok) - about the 1882 trial of Rutenian Jews.

This piqued my interest as it may be a factor in my GGF's emigration to
the US, does anyone have further details of this incident?
Is this the same movie as "Memories of a River" a film by Judit Elek? >>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: "Rivermen" (Tutajosok) - about the 1882 trial of Rutenian Jews... #hungary

Gzsuzsi@...
 

It is the same movie. Have seen both titles to it.

Susan Geroe

In a message dated 2/3/99 4:29:39 AM, MGS18@... writes:

<< >"Rivermen" (Tutajosok) - about the 1882 trial of Rutenian Jews.

This piqued my interest as it may be a factor in my GGF's emigration to
the US, does anyone have further details of this incident?
Is this the same movie as "Memories of a River" a film by Judit Elek? >>


Re: Application Form for Slovak Records #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

A REMINDER:

There is a great information resource for H-SIG members available off the
H-SIG website. It's the archive of information previously posted on H-SIG
and should be the first stop for members seeking information. Check it out
at

http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/

and click KNOWLEDGE ARCHIVES

Marc Polster,
H-SIG Webmaster


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Application Form for Slovak Records #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

A REMINDER:

There is a great information resource for H-SIG members available off the
H-SIG website. It's the archive of information previously posted on H-SIG
and should be the first stop for members seeking information. Check it out
at

http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/

and click KNOWLEDGE ARCHIVES

Marc Polster,
H-SIG Webmaster


Obituary collection at the Hungarian National Library #hungary

Peter S. Spiro <peter.spiro@...>
 

There have been a couple of postings recently about this collection of
800,000 obituaries >from all over Hungary. I had a look at this
collection last summer, and I should point out that people should not
get their hopes up about it.

These are not obituaries as we know them in North America (e.g., a
newspaper notice that often gives biographical and family information
about a person). Instead, they are fancy printed invitations to a
funeral, often with black crepe borders.

They are not catalogued, but instead are kept in folders arranged by
last name and century of death. I spent about an hour going through the
ones for the name Fischer. I did not find any that belonged to my
relatives (I guess they were not sufficiently haut bourgeois to go in
for these). I did see some for Jewish deceased, but they would have
been less practical for Jews, given the custom of quick burial. From
the ones I saw, I do not think there is a low probability of a
genealogist finding much that is useful. They mostly just contained the
times and place of the funeral, with little else.
--

| Peter Spiro ----- Toronto, Canada |
| Visit my homepage at: |
| http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/ |


Hungary SIG #Hungary Obituary collection at the Hungarian National Library #hungary

Peter S. Spiro <peter.spiro@...>
 

There have been a couple of postings recently about this collection of
800,000 obituaries >from all over Hungary. I had a look at this
collection last summer, and I should point out that people should not
get their hopes up about it.

These are not obituaries as we know them in North America (e.g., a
newspaper notice that often gives biographical and family information
about a person). Instead, they are fancy printed invitations to a
funeral, often with black crepe borders.

They are not catalogued, but instead are kept in folders arranged by
last name and century of death. I spent about an hour going through the
ones for the name Fischer. I did not find any that belonged to my
relatives (I guess they were not sufficiently haut bourgeois to go in
for these). I did see some for Jewish deceased, but they would have
been less practical for Jews, given the custom of quick burial. From
the ones I saw, I do not think there is a low probability of a
genealogist finding much that is useful. They mostly just contained the
times and place of the funeral, with little else.
--

| Peter Spiro ----- Toronto, Canada |
| Visit my homepage at: |
| http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/ |


Message to Gabriela P. Svatos #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

The following message keeps bouncing back, so let me post it for the group.

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:11:38 +0100 (MET DST)
From: Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
To: "Gabriela P. Svatos" <gsvatos@...>
Subject: Re: Survivor Lists

"Gabriela P. Svatos" <gsvatos@...> 1999.01.21. 15:03:30
-5h-kor irta:

This morning I photocopied some survivor lists for various camps >from
WWII. Usually they list the name, age or year of birth, birthplace, and
sometimes the spouses name or occupation. The lists are:

For lookups, please e-mail me privately.
Dear Gabriela,

Thank you for your kind offer, though I don't want to overburden you!

I would appreciate if you could check the following names:

Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, CUCAK, PURJESZ, BISCHITZ,
NOTHDURFT

Thanks and Shabbat Shalom!

Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary

ujlaki.gyorgy@..., ujlaki_gyorgy@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary Message to Gabriela P. Svatos #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

The following message keeps bouncing back, so let me post it for the group.

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:11:38 +0100 (MET DST)
From: Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
To: "Gabriela P. Svatos" <gsvatos@...>
Subject: Re: Survivor Lists

"Gabriela P. Svatos" <gsvatos@...> 1999.01.21. 15:03:30
-5h-kor irta:

This morning I photocopied some survivor lists for various camps >from
WWII. Usually they list the name, age or year of birth, birthplace, and
sometimes the spouses name or occupation. The lists are:

For lookups, please e-mail me privately.
Dear Gabriela,

Thank you for your kind offer, though I don't want to overburden you!

I would appreciate if you could check the following names:

Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, CUCAK, PURJESZ, BISCHITZ,
NOTHDURFT

Thanks and Shabbat Shalom!

Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary

ujlaki.gyorgy@..., ujlaki_gyorgy@...


Re: Wall of Honor update #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

The webpage Robert mentions is linked to the H-SIG website. Click here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/GENERAL.htm

Marc Polster,
H-SIG Webmaster

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert & Sarah Klein <hamoreh@...>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: Wall of Honor update


Good news. The Ellis Island Wall of Honor search engine now allows for
searches by country of origin. In the 'country of origin' field, you can
type a town name too, though most donors did not give specific towns.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Wall of Honor update #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

The webpage Robert mentions is linked to the H-SIG website. Click here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/GENERAL.htm

Marc Polster,
H-SIG Webmaster

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert & Sarah Klein <hamoreh@...>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: Wall of Honor update


Good news. The Ellis Island Wall of Honor search engine now allows for
searches by country of origin. In the 'country of origin' field, you can
type a town name too, though most donors did not give specific towns.