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what is the given name of "Slioma?" #belarus

SRLEOPOLD@...
 

Dear Whoever Responds:

One of my ancestors lived in Bykhov (27 miles south of Mogilev) during the
1870s and 1880s. His son (also my ancestor) reported his first name (given
name) once as Solomon and on another occasion as Slioma. Has anyone ever seen
the name "Slioma?" Is it a Jewish name? The son's nationality, according to
ancient documents was Hebrew, so I believe it is a Jewish name.

I am very interested in ANY information anyone can offer on this. Thank you.

Stephen Leopold

Researching the names LEOPOLD and BROCHER in Bykhov, Belarus during 1850 to
1930. (Until about 1930, Bykhov was known as Staroi Bykhov. Belarus, of
course, was formerly Byelorussia.)


Belarus SIG #Belarus what is the given name of "Slioma?" #belarus

SRLEOPOLD@...
 

Dear Whoever Responds:

One of my ancestors lived in Bykhov (27 miles south of Mogilev) during the
1870s and 1880s. His son (also my ancestor) reported his first name (given
name) once as Solomon and on another occasion as Slioma. Has anyone ever seen
the name "Slioma?" Is it a Jewish name? The son's nationality, according to
ancient documents was Hebrew, so I believe it is a Jewish name.

I am very interested in ANY information anyone can offer on this. Thank you.

Stephen Leopold

Researching the names LEOPOLD and BROCHER in Bykhov, Belarus during 1850 to
1930. (Until about 1930, Bykhov was known as Staroi Bykhov. Belarus, of
course, was formerly Byelorussia.)


ZAGARE #lithuania

K.& L. Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

I do not know if this is the book you are seeking but just in case..

LAST WALK IN NARYSHKIN PARK
by ROSE ZWI
ISBN 1 875559 72 8
Published 1997 Cost : $A19.95

The book is published by Spinifex Press, 504 Queensberry St. North
Melbourne, Victoria Australia 3051 - http://www.spinifexpress.com.au/~women

Rose's parents were born in Zagare and emigrated to Mexico where Rose was
born. She spent most of her life in South Africa and now lives in Australia.

The book is about her search for her parents' roots and the fate of her
parents' families who remained and mostly did not survive the Shoah and her
visits to Zagare (or what remains of Jewish Zagare) in the early 1990s.

It is well worth reading as she does mention many names of people who were
living in Zagare before the nazis with the eager support of the
Lithuanians (who started the slaughter before the arrival of the Germans)
virtually slaughtered the entire Jewish population.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho downunder


Moderator's Note: This ends this thread.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania ZAGARE #lithuania

K.& L. Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

I do not know if this is the book you are seeking but just in case..

LAST WALK IN NARYSHKIN PARK
by ROSE ZWI
ISBN 1 875559 72 8
Published 1997 Cost : $A19.95

The book is published by Spinifex Press, 504 Queensberry St. North
Melbourne, Victoria Australia 3051 - http://www.spinifexpress.com.au/~women

Rose's parents were born in Zagare and emigrated to Mexico where Rose was
born. She spent most of her life in South Africa and now lives in Australia.

The book is about her search for her parents' roots and the fate of her
parents' families who remained and mostly did not survive the Shoah and her
visits to Zagare (or what remains of Jewish Zagare) in the early 1990s.

It is well worth reading as she does mention many names of people who were
living in Zagare before the nazis with the eager support of the
Lithuanians (who started the slaughter before the arrival of the Germans)
virtually slaughtered the entire Jewish population.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho downunder


Moderator's Note: This ends this thread.


Research in Kaunas Archives #lithuania

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

I almost kissed the mailman when he brought me the reply to the research
request that I sent to the Kaunas Archives in January of 1998! It was
worth the wait! Vitalija Gircyte did a fabulous job of collecting
information >from the various threads of information that I had sent. It
will take me weeks to go thru all the data that she sent.

Two important things for the entire SIG--When I placed this order, I had
been told that the waiting time was six months. It took a year. I have
heard that the list of requests waiting for work behind mine is longer than
when I started, so be patient.

I also received a confirmed list of research requests placed with Vitalija
at the LA Seminar. If you placed an order with her at that time and would
like to confirm that it was indeed placed, I can tell you if your name is
on the list. But I can NOT tell you when the work will be done.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Litvak SIG Treasurer
@PeggyF


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Research in Kaunas Archives #lithuania

Peggy Freedman <peggyf@...>
 

I almost kissed the mailman when he brought me the reply to the research
request that I sent to the Kaunas Archives in January of 1998! It was
worth the wait! Vitalija Gircyte did a fabulous job of collecting
information >from the various threads of information that I had sent. It
will take me weeks to go thru all the data that she sent.

Two important things for the entire SIG--When I placed this order, I had
been told that the waiting time was six months. It took a year. I have
heard that the list of requests waiting for work behind mine is longer than
when I started, so be patient.

I also received a confirmed list of research requests placed with Vitalija
at the LA Seminar. If you placed an order with her at that time and would
like to confirm that it was indeed placed, I can tell you if your name is
on the list. But I can NOT tell you when the work will be done.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Litvak SIG Treasurer
@PeggyF


re Diaspora Routes into Lithuania. #lithuania

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

Randy Weiss,

I read with great interest your article on your LAPIDES family, and as you
know, I am also a LAPEDUS although my family came >from Vieksniai (to
Dublin, Ireland) I have always suspected that the family were of Sephardic
Origins. I know that there are many families in Holland with the surname
LAPIDOTH. They claim to have come >from Spain during the Spanish
Inquisition and have lost all touch with their Jewish origins. By the same
token, other LAPIDOTH/LAPIDES families could have left Spain and gone
further afield, to Eastern Europe. I know that our LAPEDUS families were
in Vieksniai, Lithuania as far back as 1770 but before that, we don't know
where they came from.

So your theory of the LAPIDES family having been Sephardic is very likely.

My Father and Grandfather were Dark Skinned and, if outward appearances
have anything to do with it, there is more chance of them being native
Spaniards then native Lithuanians, and I do believe that "genes speak
louder than words" in many instances and we should take note of what the
Genes sometimes show us.

The LAPIDUS/LAPIDES/LAPIDOTH Database I am working on now has almost 1800
names on it and if any Litvaksiggers wish to have any information, please
write to me privately, and i will be only too delighted to give you the
information you require.

Anne .
------------

ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa. (ex DUBLIN, IRELAND)
Researching: : LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS/LAPIDES (all spellings) >from
Lithuania, Latvia, Poland etc.
BREST family >from - Bauska, Latvia.


More on Last Walk in Naryshkin Park Sources #lithuania

Judith27
 

I just did a search with Bookfinder <http://www.mxbf.com/>
for LAST WALK IN NARYSHKIN PARK by Rose Zwi, and it turns out you can also
order this particular book in paperback via Amazon.Com

<Last Walk in Naryshkin Park
by Rose Zwi
List Price: $17.95
Our Price: $14.36
You Save: $3.59 (20%)

Availability: This title usually ships within 2-3 days.

Paperback - 256 pages 1 edition (March 1998)
Spinifex Pr; ISBN: 1875559728 ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.70 x 8.48 x 5.56
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 172,855 >

Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@...>
Long Beach, NY


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania re Diaspora Routes into Lithuania. #lithuania

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

Randy Weiss,

I read with great interest your article on your LAPIDES family, and as you
know, I am also a LAPEDUS although my family came >from Vieksniai (to
Dublin, Ireland) I have always suspected that the family were of Sephardic
Origins. I know that there are many families in Holland with the surname
LAPIDOTH. They claim to have come >from Spain during the Spanish
Inquisition and have lost all touch with their Jewish origins. By the same
token, other LAPIDOTH/LAPIDES families could have left Spain and gone
further afield, to Eastern Europe. I know that our LAPEDUS families were
in Vieksniai, Lithuania as far back as 1770 but before that, we don't know
where they came from.

So your theory of the LAPIDES family having been Sephardic is very likely.

My Father and Grandfather were Dark Skinned and, if outward appearances
have anything to do with it, there is more chance of them being native
Spaniards then native Lithuanians, and I do believe that "genes speak
louder than words" in many instances and we should take note of what the
Genes sometimes show us.

The LAPIDUS/LAPIDES/LAPIDOTH Database I am working on now has almost 1800
names on it and if any Litvaksiggers wish to have any information, please
write to me privately, and i will be only too delighted to give you the
information you require.

Anne .
------------

ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa. (ex DUBLIN, IRELAND)
Researching: : LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS/LAPIDES (all spellings) >from
Lithuania, Latvia, Poland etc.
BREST family >from - Bauska, Latvia.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania More on Last Walk in Naryshkin Park Sources #lithuania

Judith27
 

I just did a search with Bookfinder <http://www.mxbf.com/>
for LAST WALK IN NARYSHKIN PARK by Rose Zwi, and it turns out you can also
order this particular book in paperback via Amazon.Com

<Last Walk in Naryshkin Park
by Rose Zwi
List Price: $17.95
Our Price: $14.36
You Save: $3.59 (20%)

Availability: This title usually ships within 2-3 days.

Paperback - 256 pages 1 edition (March 1998)
Spinifex Pr; ISBN: 1875559728 ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.70 x 8.48 x 5.56
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 172,855 >

Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@...>
Long Beach, NY


Finding that book #lithuania

Amy Levinson <arl@...>
 

Before you ask on this digest about "where is that book I heard of about
Zagare -- " or other subject, you may consult the Library of Congress
catalog and, if you have access to it, Worldcat. These are on line and
will answer a lot of questions.

http://www.loc.gov

It's a site everyone should know about anyway; it leads to some
magnificent photo collections and lots of other good stuff.

I get Worldcat thru the local library so I don't know the URL.
Here's a description >from metacrawler:

847 WorldCat

Millions of records for any type of material cataloged by OCLC member
libraries. Includes manuscripts written as early as the 11th
century. Updated daily.
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/catalogs/worldcat.html (WebCrawler)

Library catalogs have been an important source in my research.

Another source of references is the Encyclo. Judaica article about your
town (1973 ed.) Many many shtetls are covered and the information there
is translated >from sources in Hebrew, Yiddish and Russian.

BTW the book Sage of Leipzig by Esra Shereshevsky is mainly about his
maternal gf, but his father resided in Zagare and raised his large family
there.

Best wishes,


Amy Levinson


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Finding that book #lithuania

Amy Levinson <arl@...>
 

Before you ask on this digest about "where is that book I heard of about
Zagare -- " or other subject, you may consult the Library of Congress
catalog and, if you have access to it, Worldcat. These are on line and
will answer a lot of questions.

http://www.loc.gov

It's a site everyone should know about anyway; it leads to some
magnificent photo collections and lots of other good stuff.

I get Worldcat thru the local library so I don't know the URL.
Here's a description >from metacrawler:

847 WorldCat

Millions of records for any type of material cataloged by OCLC member
libraries. Includes manuscripts written as early as the 11th
century. Updated daily.
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/catalogs/worldcat.html (WebCrawler)

Library catalogs have been an important source in my research.

Another source of references is the Encyclo. Judaica article about your
town (1973 ed.) Many many shtetls are covered and the information there
is translated >from sources in Hebrew, Yiddish and Russian.

BTW the book Sage of Leipzig by Esra Shereshevsky is mainly about his
maternal gf, but his father resided in Zagare and raised his large family
there.

Best wishes,


Amy Levinson


Rokiskis phone list, 1938 #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

Has anyone compiled all of the Lithuanian phone lists into a book? It
would be a good idea to make these phone lists available for the New
York conference. I have a page >from the 1938 Lithuanian phone directory
for ROKISKIS. Following are the names found on this list (the Jewish
names are pretty discernable but I include all names to avoid mistakes):

ARSAS Chonas; BODNEVAS Izaokas; BINJAMINOVICIUS Jankelis; BULOVIENE
Zose; CHARMACAS Michelis & A.; CEDASAS Alteris; CERSKUS Antanas; DAMUSIS
Pranas; DANIUNAS Antanas; DIRZYS Antanas; ETINGOFAS Abraomas;
GAFANOVICIUS Zalmanas; GIVOVSKIS Jankelis; GIZINSKAS Leonardas; GOLANDAS
Dovidas, IICLUKAS P.; JASELEVICIUS Abr.; JAFFE Solomas; KARKAS Jankelis;
KAUPELLS Antanas; KISKIS Petras; KLINGMANAS Z.-J. & Izaokas; KLIUMELIS
Z.; KOMOROVSKIENE Eliza; KROKAS Jankelis & Samuelis; KURAS G.; LEVI
Girsas; LEVINIENE Fania; MALEVICIUS Julijonas; MELLERIENE, T.;
MICHELEVICIUS M.; OZELIS Petras; PETRENAS Jonas; PRZEZDZIECKIS Jonas;
REZNIKOVICIUS Chaimas; ROZENKOVICIUS Faivelis; RUCHAS Mejeris;
SIPAVICIUS Bronius; SADEIKA Antanas; SACHERAS Dovydas; SCIUKA Antanas;
SERAS Moze; TRIFSKINAS Naumas; VERSELIS Jonas; VINOKURAS Leib;
ZAIKAUSKAS A.; ZILINSKAS Adolph


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Rokiskis phone list, 1938 #lithuania

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

Has anyone compiled all of the Lithuanian phone lists into a book? It
would be a good idea to make these phone lists available for the New
York conference. I have a page >from the 1938 Lithuanian phone directory
for ROKISKIS. Following are the names found on this list (the Jewish
names are pretty discernable but I include all names to avoid mistakes):

ARSAS Chonas; BODNEVAS Izaokas; BINJAMINOVICIUS Jankelis; BULOVIENE
Zose; CHARMACAS Michelis & A.; CEDASAS Alteris; CERSKUS Antanas; DAMUSIS
Pranas; DANIUNAS Antanas; DIRZYS Antanas; ETINGOFAS Abraomas;
GAFANOVICIUS Zalmanas; GIVOVSKIS Jankelis; GIZINSKAS Leonardas; GOLANDAS
Dovidas, IICLUKAS P.; JASELEVICIUS Abr.; JAFFE Solomas; KARKAS Jankelis;
KAUPELLS Antanas; KISKIS Petras; KLINGMANAS Z.-J. & Izaokas; KLIUMELIS
Z.; KOMOROVSKIENE Eliza; KROKAS Jankelis & Samuelis; KURAS G.; LEVI
Girsas; LEVINIENE Fania; MALEVICIUS Julijonas; MELLERIENE, T.;
MICHELEVICIUS M.; OZELIS Petras; PETRENAS Jonas; PRZEZDZIECKIS Jonas;
REZNIKOVICIUS Chaimas; ROZENKOVICIUS Faivelis; RUCHAS Mejeris;
SIPAVICIUS Bronius; SADEIKA Antanas; SACHERAS Dovydas; SCIUKA Antanas;
SERAS Moze; TRIFSKINAS Naumas; VERSELIS Jonas; VINOKURAS Leib;
ZAIKAUSKAS A.; ZILINSKAS Adolph


Searching: ZILBER or ZILBA from Minsk #belarus

RIOF1@...
 

Hi,

We are looking for an Elka ZILBER, ZILBA or something similar-->from Minsk area
whose son Joseph, Came to NY Lower East Side; moved to New Rochelle NY
peddler, green grocer--lived with older sister: Annie (SILVER) BLOCK (BLOCH).
Brothers: Sam SILVER(youngest) Wife? Children: Fay,? Harry ?
Sisters: Eva SILVER ROSENTHAL (oldest sibling);
Annie SILVER BLOCK (BLOCH) (2nd child) Husband? His
sister is in Buffalo
child: Morris BLOCK (BLOCH)(deceased)married French
Jew; moved to White Plains;

Great Grandmother: Rose GOLDSTEIN SILVER. born Minsk? near Minsk? came to US
turn of century via Canada. Married NY. died 90 years old in Nanuet NY.

Brothers: Louie GOLDSTEIN
Joe GOLDSTEIN--married to Stella; child Helene,
Sisters: Annie JAFFE-oldest (originally intended by matchmaker to
marry your
grandfather)
Becky LERNER

Any help, ideas you have would be so appreciated. Good luck and Thank you,

Harriet Riofrio SILVER


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching: ZILBER or ZILBA from Minsk #belarus

RIOF1@...
 

Hi,

We are looking for an Elka ZILBER, ZILBA or something similar-->from Minsk area
whose son Joseph, Came to NY Lower East Side; moved to New Rochelle NY
peddler, green grocer--lived with older sister: Annie (SILVER) BLOCK (BLOCH).
Brothers: Sam SILVER(youngest) Wife? Children: Fay,? Harry ?
Sisters: Eva SILVER ROSENTHAL (oldest sibling);
Annie SILVER BLOCK (BLOCH) (2nd child) Husband? His
sister is in Buffalo
child: Morris BLOCK (BLOCH)(deceased)married French
Jew; moved to White Plains;

Great Grandmother: Rose GOLDSTEIN SILVER. born Minsk? near Minsk? came to US
turn of century via Canada. Married NY. died 90 years old in Nanuet NY.

Brothers: Louie GOLDSTEIN
Joe GOLDSTEIN--married to Stella; child Helene,
Sisters: Annie JAFFE-oldest (originally intended by matchmaker to
marry your
grandfather)
Becky LERNER

Any help, ideas you have would be so appreciated. Good luck and Thank you,

Harriet Riofrio SILVER


Szobrancz Records #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Back in December Louis Schonfeld posted a message regarding the possible
availability of copies of Szobrancz birth records. The copies were
reportedly being made available by a Professor Hartman in Israel. I
followed up with a direct inquiry to Prof. Hartman but have not received a
respose. I'm reposting the message to the entire list in hope that someone
can help us locate the records or Prof. Hartman.

Several of us who are researching roots >from the Szobrancz area would be
interested in sharing the cost of purchasing these films and sharing the
job of transcribing the data. The product of our work could eventually be
posted on our H-SIG website. Seems like this is the kind of collaborative
effort that H-SIG should be undertaking.

TIA,

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching:

BAAL/BERKOVITS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/Orasu Nou, Rom. (Ujvaros,
Hung.); Seini, Rom. (Szinervaralja, Hun), NYC, Detroit, Israel
FERBER/Sajoszentpeter, Hun, Deans, NJ, Netanyu, Israel
KAHN/KAHAN/COHEN/Sighetu Marmatei, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun), London,
NYC, Los Angeles
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz
Michalovce, Munkacs,Ungvar,Washington Heights, Queeens, NYC
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov
(Kis-Szeben), Vranov n. Toplou (Varanno), Kriszti (Kereszt),
Slov.,Washington Hts, Queens, NYC
ZEGAL/Sighet


<<Shalom Professor Hartman,

I got your e-mail address >from Louis Schonfeld who notified members of the
Hungarian SIG that you have photocopies of Szobrancz birth records for the
period 1798-1865. These records are of particular interest to me because
my father, both of my paternal grandparents and a number of other relatives
were born in the Sobrance area. There are also other H-SIG members
researching family >from this area who are interested in these records.

I understand that you are willing to provide us with copies of these
records for a fee and would like to have more information.

1. Approximately how many records have you copied?

2. Do the records cover the small communities surrounding Sobrance whose
Jewish residents worshipped in the larger city? Some of these Szobrancz
area communities listed in 1877 Gazetteer and 1848 Conscriptio include Tiba
(Tibava), Rybnica, Kereszt, Kisozstro, Jenko, Benatine, Porubka,
Baskocz,Fekeshaza, and Bunkocz.

3. How legible are the records? Did you copy the original documents?

4. What fee would you charge to cover your work and expenses in connection
with obtaining and providing the records to the Hungarian SIG?

I am willing to pay a reasonable fee to obtain copies of the Sobrancz
records and believe others would also because we have not been able to find
this information elsewhere. It is my understanding that the Hungarian
State Archives in Budapest has Szobrancz records >from this period. Is this
your source?

As you may know, the Mormons have not filmed any Jewish records >from the
Sobrance area other than the 1848 Conscriptio Judaeorum. Some Jewish
households are also included in the 1828 and early census records that have
been filmed by the Mormons. I have also been advised by the Bratislava and
Presov archives that they do not have Jewish records >from the Sobrance area
in their collections.>>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Szobrancz Records #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Back in December Louis Schonfeld posted a message regarding the possible
availability of copies of Szobrancz birth records. The copies were
reportedly being made available by a Professor Hartman in Israel. I
followed up with a direct inquiry to Prof. Hartman but have not received a
respose. I'm reposting the message to the entire list in hope that someone
can help us locate the records or Prof. Hartman.

Several of us who are researching roots >from the Szobrancz area would be
interested in sharing the cost of purchasing these films and sharing the
job of transcribing the data. The product of our work could eventually be
posted on our H-SIG website. Seems like this is the kind of collaborative
effort that H-SIG should be undertaking.

TIA,

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching:

BAAL/BERKOVITS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/Orasu Nou, Rom. (Ujvaros,
Hung.); Seini, Rom. (Szinervaralja, Hun), NYC, Detroit, Israel
FERBER/Sajoszentpeter, Hun, Deans, NJ, Netanyu, Israel
KAHN/KAHAN/COHEN/Sighetu Marmatei, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun), London,
NYC, Los Angeles
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz
Michalovce, Munkacs,Ungvar,Washington Heights, Queeens, NYC
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov
(Kis-Szeben), Vranov n. Toplou (Varanno), Kriszti (Kereszt),
Slov.,Washington Hts, Queens, NYC
ZEGAL/Sighet


<<Shalom Professor Hartman,

I got your e-mail address >from Louis Schonfeld who notified members of the
Hungarian SIG that you have photocopies of Szobrancz birth records for the
period 1798-1865. These records are of particular interest to me because
my father, both of my paternal grandparents and a number of other relatives
were born in the Sobrance area. There are also other H-SIG members
researching family >from this area who are interested in these records.

I understand that you are willing to provide us with copies of these
records for a fee and would like to have more information.

1. Approximately how many records have you copied?

2. Do the records cover the small communities surrounding Sobrance whose
Jewish residents worshipped in the larger city? Some of these Szobrancz
area communities listed in 1877 Gazetteer and 1848 Conscriptio include Tiba
(Tibava), Rybnica, Kereszt, Kisozstro, Jenko, Benatine, Porubka,
Baskocz,Fekeshaza, and Bunkocz.

3. How legible are the records? Did you copy the original documents?

4. What fee would you charge to cover your work and expenses in connection
with obtaining and providing the records to the Hungarian SIG?

I am willing to pay a reasonable fee to obtain copies of the Sobrancz
records and believe others would also because we have not been able to find
this information elsewhere. It is my understanding that the Hungarian
State Archives in Budapest has Szobrancz records >from this period. Is this
your source?

As you may know, the Mormons have not filmed any Jewish records >from the
Sobrance area other than the 1848 Conscriptio Judaeorum. Some Jewish
households are also included in the 1828 and early census records that have
been filmed by the Mormons. I have also been advised by the Bratislava and
Presov archives that they do not have Jewish records >from the Sobrance area
in their collections.>>


Budapest Obituaries #hungary

Lebn@...
 

Dear H-Siggers,

An important resource is available in Budapest and I am trying to find a
volunteer in our H-SIG group who could help me by doing some lookups, copying
and mailing me the documents. Of course I would reimburse the person for all
expenses and make a donation to an organization of their choice. I am not
healthy enough to go on the ShtetlsShlepper trip to Budapest that is currently
being planned for April.

What I want is for someone to search the ALPHABETIZED obituaries at the
Szechenyi National Library for the surnames BIEN, BIENENFELD and MATRAI. I am
referring to an article written by Diane Goldman in which she explained about
obituaries found in Budapest. The substance of the article is as follows:

The Hungarian obituaries at the Szechenyi National Library are an 800,000-item
collection of death notices. The obituaries are contained in the library's
ground-floor larger collection of printed matter (including posters, for
example). The room is to the right as one passes the security checkpoint,
behind the cafeteria; the collection staff do not speak English. Most
material observed is >from the period
1900-1915, although entries were dated as early as 1864 and as late as
1965. The sheets usually include the name, birthplace, age, and residence
of the deceased as well as the names (and relationship) of survivors and
any funeral details. These "obituaries" were expensive, and so only cover
families well-known and well-off enough to pay the cost. However, the
collection includes deaths in cities quite far >from Budapest (Prague,
Berlin, Baden-Baden, Kaposvar, Werschetz) and the collection is
comprehensive, since one copy of each obituary published had to be
submitted to the National Library. In addition, the collection has been
broadened by bequests >from collectors. The materials are organized
alphabetically by surname and within that not at all. (The exception is
folders reviewed by Family Tree Ltd. staffer Iosif Kis, who has been
alphabetizing each folder he reviews.) Jewish families (perhaps 10 percent
of the items seen) are usually easy to identify >from the funeral
arrangements, the art is distinctive but similar to that for Reformed
Church families.

If someone in Budapest can do this for me I would be very grateful and I could
reciprocate by doing work perhaps at the Library of Congress, if needed. Or
if this could be a small project for the ShtetlsShleppers I would make an
appropriate donation to the group going to Budapest or to Jewishgenerosity in
the name of the H-SIG .

Best regards to all,
Eleanor Bien


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest Obituaries #hungary

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Dear H-Siggers,

An important resource is available in Budapest and I am trying to find a
volunteer in our H-SIG group who could help me by doing some lookups, copying
and mailing me the documents. Of course I would reimburse the person for all
expenses and make a donation to an organization of their choice. I am not
healthy enough to go on the ShtetlsShlepper trip to Budapest that is currently
being planned for April.

What I want is for someone to search the ALPHABETIZED obituaries at the
Szechenyi National Library for the surnames BIEN, BIENENFELD and MATRAI. I am
referring to an article written by Diane Goldman in which she explained about
obituaries found in Budapest. The substance of the article is as follows:

The Hungarian obituaries at the Szechenyi National Library are an 800,000-item
collection of death notices. The obituaries are contained in the library's
ground-floor larger collection of printed matter (including posters, for
example). The room is to the right as one passes the security checkpoint,
behind the cafeteria; the collection staff do not speak English. Most
material observed is >from the period
1900-1915, although entries were dated as early as 1864 and as late as
1965. The sheets usually include the name, birthplace, age, and residence
of the deceased as well as the names (and relationship) of survivors and
any funeral details. These "obituaries" were expensive, and so only cover
families well-known and well-off enough to pay the cost. However, the
collection includes deaths in cities quite far >from Budapest (Prague,
Berlin, Baden-Baden, Kaposvar, Werschetz) and the collection is
comprehensive, since one copy of each obituary published had to be
submitted to the National Library. In addition, the collection has been
broadened by bequests >from collectors. The materials are organized
alphabetically by surname and within that not at all. (The exception is
folders reviewed by Family Tree Ltd. staffer Iosif Kis, who has been
alphabetizing each folder he reviews.) Jewish families (perhaps 10 percent
of the items seen) are usually easy to identify >from the funeral
arrangements, the art is distinctive but similar to that for Reformed
Church families.

If someone in Budapest can do this for me I would be very grateful and I could
reciprocate by doing work perhaps at the Library of Congress, if needed. Or
if this could be a small project for the ShtetlsShleppers I would make an
appropriate donation to the group going to Budapest or to Jewishgenerosity in
the name of the H-SIG .

Best regards to all,
Eleanor Bien