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Re: Hirsch/Hershel/Zvi/ Naphtali Herz. #general

Leonardo Herzenberg <cherzenb@...>
 

So the notion that the "Herz" component in the name Naphtali-Herz
represents "heart" is almost certainly mistaken; while the notion that
Hirsch/Hershel = Herz/Herzl is certainly correct, as long as we
understand that in this case Herz is simply another spelling for a male
deer.
Judith Romney Wegner
In my family the story goes that when the last names became a requirement,
the name Hirschenberg, with the Naftali connection, was erroneously
transcribed into Herzenberg by a government clerk,

Leonardo Herzenberg e-mail: herzenberg@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hirsch/Hershel/Zvi/ Naphtali Herz. #general

Leonardo Herzenberg <cherzenb@...>
 

So the notion that the "Herz" component in the name Naphtali-Herz
represents "heart" is almost certainly mistaken; while the notion that
Hirsch/Hershel = Herz/Herzl is certainly correct, as long as we
understand that in this case Herz is simply another spelling for a male
deer.
Judith Romney Wegner
In my family the story goes that when the last names became a requirement,
the name Hirschenberg, with the Naftali connection, was erroneously
transcribed into Herzenberg by a government clerk,

Leonardo Herzenberg e-mail: herzenberg@...


Re: A terminological point #general

Simon Barak
 

My grandfather was known to all as Simche Bark. His parents called him
Simcha. His Russian neighbours called him Sima. His Russian passport was
on the name Semion. Arriving to Argentina this was changed to Simon. To his
wife he allways was Semuchka.
Querry: What was his first name, his forename, his given name?

Stan Goodman wrote:

"Given name" is the same as "forename" and "first name".
The terms "given name" and "surname" (or "family name") are much to be
preferred
pollins@... (Harold Pollins) followed:
Since joining this list I observe the use of the word 'given' to refer
to forenames. This was a new usage to me and I wondered about it.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A terminological point #general

Simon Barak
 

My grandfather was known to all as Simche Bark. His parents called him
Simcha. His Russian neighbours called him Sima. His Russian passport was
on the name Semion. Arriving to Argentina this was changed to Simon. To his
wife he allways was Semuchka.
Querry: What was his first name, his forename, his given name?

Stan Goodman wrote:

"Given name" is the same as "forename" and "first name".
The terms "given name" and "surname" (or "family name") are much to be
preferred
pollins@... (Harold Pollins) followed:
Since joining this list I observe the use of the word 'given' to refer
to forenames. This was a new usage to me and I wondered about it.


Re: Emigration from Odessa to the US via Turkey and France #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Why do you say "mythical ship" Pampa. There was a Pampa, which ran >from
Havre to South America >from 1878 until scrapped in 1905. This ship
belonged to the famous line Chargeurs Reunis.
Paul Silverstone

Guillermo Steinberg wrote:

The path was: Istanbul
(Turkey) => Marseille (France) by ship; Marseille => Bordeaux by train;
Bordeaux => Pauillac by ship; Pauillac => Le Havre => Buenos Aires, by
the mythical ship "Pampa", which followed to La Plata. This group of
people was known as "Stambulers" (the ones >from Istanbul) or "Pampistas"
(those of the "Pampa").
Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Emigration from Odessa to the US via Turkey and France #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Why do you say "mythical ship" Pampa. There was a Pampa, which ran >from
Havre to South America >from 1878 until scrapped in 1905. This ship
belonged to the famous line Chargeurs Reunis.
Paul Silverstone

Guillermo Steinberg wrote:

The path was: Istanbul
(Turkey) => Marseille (France) by ship; Marseille => Bordeaux by train;
Bordeaux => Pauillac by ship; Pauillac => Le Havre => Buenos Aires, by
the mythical ship "Pampa", which followed to La Plata. This group of
people was known as "Stambulers" (the ones >from Istanbul) or "Pampistas"
(those of the "Pampa").
Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@...


Louis Schonfeld IN CONCERT #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

H-SIGers,

We at the Columbus Jewish Historical Society have the pleasure of presenting Louis Schonfeld, "in concert" at the CJHS next week.
Louis will educate us as much as he can in 90 minutes on the topic of
Hungarian Jewish Genealogy. If you are anywhere near Columbus, Ohio next
Thursday, Feb 11, please plan to attend our genealogy program. It promises
to be quite interesting.

For more information, see http://www.gcis.net/cjhs/

Marc Polster,
Trustee, CJHS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Louis Schonfeld IN CONCERT #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

H-SIGers,

We at the Columbus Jewish Historical Society have the pleasure of presenting Louis Schonfeld, "in concert" at the CJHS next week.
Louis will educate us as much as he can in 90 minutes on the topic of
Hungarian Jewish Genealogy. If you are anywhere near Columbus, Ohio next
Thursday, Feb 11, please plan to attend our genealogy program. It promises
to be quite interesting.

For more information, see http://www.gcis.net/cjhs/

Marc Polster,
Trustee, CJHS


Research Contacts #general

MDing88835@...
 

Are resource contact available in Bacau Romania??

Monroe Dingott
MDing88835@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research Contacts #general

MDing88835@...
 

Are resource contact available in Bacau Romania??

Monroe Dingott
MDing88835@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


1828 and 1763 Munkacs censuses posted to HSIG web page #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

Hello

For those researching Munkacs, the actual photocopied pages of the 1828 and 1763 Munkacs census have been scanned and posted on the HSIG webpage.

Browse http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/Data.htm

You will note the two Munkacs census reports there.

Dennis Baer

mod. Thanks to Rhoda Miller, Marc Polster and especially Dennis Baer for all his efforts and his dedication to Munkacs, and the memory of his Schantz forebearers. The next step is for someone with a good eye for deciphering to transcribe and index the data.LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1828 and 1763 Munkacs censuses posted to HSIG web page #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

Hello

For those researching Munkacs, the actual photocopied pages of the 1828 and 1763 Munkacs census have been scanned and posted on the HSIG webpage.

Browse http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/Data.htm

You will note the two Munkacs census reports there.

Dennis Baer

mod. Thanks to Rhoda Miller, Marc Polster and especially Dennis Baer for all his efforts and his dedication to Munkacs, and the memory of his Schantz forebearers. The next step is for someone with a good eye for deciphering to transcribe and index the data.LS


Successful beginnings #general

AIChernoff@...
 

Several weeks ago, I sent an e-mail to this site concerning my finding a
book about the Rabbi of Konigsberg, Arieh Leb haLevi Epstein. Since
then, I have heard >from at least a dozen different people, established the
linkage to my own paternal family tree and added significant information to
at least some of the researchers doing work on the haLevi Epstein tree.
This note is merely to express my thanks to the many who helped me get
started and to my newly found 'cousins'. Should any one want more
specific information on the emerging family tree of Chernichovsky/Chernoff,
please feel free to contact me at aichernoff@...
Again, many thanks for all your input. Amoz Chernoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Successful beginnings #general

AIChernoff@...
 

Several weeks ago, I sent an e-mail to this site concerning my finding a
book about the Rabbi of Konigsberg, Arieh Leb haLevi Epstein. Since
then, I have heard >from at least a dozen different people, established the
linkage to my own paternal family tree and added significant information to
at least some of the researchers doing work on the haLevi Epstein tree.
This note is merely to express my thanks to the many who helped me get
started and to my newly found 'cousins'. Should any one want more
specific information on the emerging family tree of Chernichovsky/Chernoff,
please feel free to contact me at aichernoff@...
Again, many thanks for all your input. Amoz Chernoff


English name equivalents in several languages #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello to all,

Wandering on the immensity of the Web I found a real piece of jewel and it
can be seized by all of you ;)

Please visit
http://www.rootsweb.com/~scoconee/names.html

Thanks to Paul M. Kankula <kankula@...>, you will be able to
download there a VERY comprehensive list of English given names translated
into their Czechoslovakian, German, Hungarian, Polish, and Slovakian
equivalents. The file is quite large (270 Kbytes) and in Adobe Acrobat
format, which means you need the reader application, also downloadable from
this same page.

Enjoy
Tom


Searching for a shtetl #general

D.J. Einbinder <donjein@...>
 

I just received my grandfather's naturalization papers on which his town
of origin is listed as Lorisk, Russia. Up until then I had thought he
came >from Vilna Gubernia, but I can't find any mention of a Lorisk, even
through the Shtetlseeker.
Any suggestions for a beginning researcher as to what I do now? Help
would be greatly appreciated.

Don Einbinder
Tamarac, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen English name equivalents in several languages #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello to all,

Wandering on the immensity of the Web I found a real piece of jewel and it
can be seized by all of you ;)

Please visit
http://www.rootsweb.com/~scoconee/names.html

Thanks to Paul M. Kankula <kankula@...>, you will be able to
download there a VERY comprehensive list of English given names translated
into their Czechoslovakian, German, Hungarian, Polish, and Slovakian
equivalents. The file is quite large (270 Kbytes) and in Adobe Acrobat
format, which means you need the reader application, also downloadable from
this same page.

Enjoy
Tom


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for a shtetl #general

D.J. Einbinder <donjein@...>
 

I just received my grandfather's naturalization papers on which his town
of origin is listed as Lorisk, Russia. Up until then I had thought he
came >from Vilna Gubernia, but I can't find any mention of a Lorisk, even
through the Shtetlseeker.
Any suggestions for a beginning researcher as to what I do now? Help
would be greatly appreciated.

Don Einbinder
Tamarac, FL


Thanks to Ottawa Jewish Genealogical Society #general

Genealogia Judia Arg. <armony@...>
 

Hello friends:
I wish to tell everybody my very good experience in Ottawa with the Jewish
Genealogical Society.

"I was a month in Ottawa, visiting my son and my new grand daughter Emma,
born in december 18, 1998.
I decided to take holidays also with genealogy and nobody, except Stanley
Diamond in Montreal, knew about my stay in Ottawa.
But...
One monday after the turistic visit to Canadian Parlament we walked in the
snow and ice, with minus 22 celcius or minus 10 farenheint and the National
Library and National Archives of Canada were the most heated an confortable
building near to us. The chance was that in few minutes after our arrival
there was a guided tour for both organizations. It was nice and very
instructive, so I decided to do searchs there..
So the following day I decided to begin a search looking for a person from
Zhitomir, near Kiev named ?? Drukier, a grand uncle of my father that
emigrated to Canada and never was contacted again.
When in the following day, tuesday, I was obtained my authorization to
visit both organizations I met Ms. Jaffe, the curator of the jewish
exhibition of ashkenazi books (granted by Mr. Lowy to the National Library
in 1979- It was a permanent exhibition there).
She spoke me about one lady, Ms. Donna Dinberg, a officer in the National
Library saying that she is a member of the jewish genealogical society, who
would help me and by G'd decition, in this instant Donna is entering in the
building.
She recognice me, my name and immy she was so friendly and warmest with me
that all the cold wuinter weather of Ottawa was unfrozen.
Consecuently, after several meetings in the Library and a lunch with her, my
wife and Hymie Reichstein, the Treasurer of the Ottawa JGS, I was invited to
speak in the january meeting of the Society, thursday 28.
It was in the new Ottawa Jewish Community Building and the jewish
genealogical meeting was the first celebrated there.
Later I received a a very important gift >from the President of the OJGS,
Professor Gerald Tulchinsky: a book wrote for him about the jewish canadian
community: "Branching Out" and dedicated to me by Lawrence Tapper, former
President.
Meantime I made through 10 days searches in many archives and records in the
National Libray and Archives, during several hours per day.
I obtained a big experience in order to know what is possible to have and to
do in genealogical research and I will intent to aply it to our country.
I found two possible Drukiers that perhaps they were my relatives, next year
I will continue.
Also I met a gentlemen in Toronto, Manny Drukier, he wrote a vey
interesting book with his experience as nazi camp survivor: "Carved in the
Stone" published in 1997 by Toronto University. I also read this book in the
National Library.

Really my stay in Ottawas was exceptional and I am very happy to be in
contact with all these friendly people of the Jewish Genealogical Society.
Thanks to them for their r frienship to us, my wife and me"

Dear Jewishgeners. the above experience was one of the best experiences that
I had in my life.

Please don't hesitate in contact Ottawa people when you will visited Canada

Regards and Shalom
Paul Armony
President
Genealogical Jewish Society of Argentina


Re: how to determine if an organization is still in existence #general

usenet@...
 

On 1 Feb 1999, Jonina Duker wrote:

If an organization has a legal existence, that existence is defined by
the state (and sometimes also by the federal government depending on the
nature of the organization and reporting requirements). If an
organization becomes dormant the state has procedures, which vary from
state to state, about how the dissolution is handled and for how long the
organization will continue to exist in whatever format.
[snipped to save space]

In addition, don't forget to check at the largest library in your area for
the following. Back issues, if retained by your library, might reveal
when an organization was and was not listed, giving chronological clues as
to its demise.

Jaszczak, Sandra, ed.
Encyclopedia of associations
Detroit: Gale Research Co., published annually

Excerpted >from the title page:
This multi-volume set, also issued on CD-ROM, lists nearly 23,000
national and international organizations, including trade, business,
legal, governmental, scientific, cultural, social welfare, patriotic,
hobby, ethnic, religious, athletic, commercial, fan, etc. clubs.

Cynthia Van Ness, M.L.S.
af482@...
Co-moderator, Buffalo NY USA genealogy page
http://freenet.buffalo.edu/~roots