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Place of origin listed in Russian records #general

Haim Fridman <fridman@...>
 

Allan Shuchat wrote:
a person's place of origin is often a part of the record.... Is this
generally the actual birthplace of the individual or the most recent
residence before moving to the location where the record was made?
Herbert Lazerow replied:

Neither. This is the place to which the individual is officially
registered. It cost money to change your registration, so my KIMELMAN
family were still "townspeople of Vitebsk" in 1910, though they had
lived in Nezhin Ukraine since at least 1852, and the parents of many of
them had been born in Nezhin.
This is not necessarily the reason in all cases. My family lived on Jewish
agricultural colonies in the south-east Ukraine. They settled there in 1846
having come in the main >from Lithuania. Recently acquired Revision Lists
from 1858 show that listings of the families then living in the Ukrainian
colonies included a statement which proceeded most family groups lists
">from the community of Rassein" etc. This was recorded since the colonists
travelled in 1846 in convoys as a specific group denoted by town of and
accepted by the authorities as potential colonists. This information is
invaluable to assertain towns of origin instead of the common
generalizatiom ">from Kovno Guberniya".

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: fridman@ultinet.co.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Place of origin listed in Russian records #general

Haim Fridman <fridman@...>
 

Allan Shuchat wrote:
a person's place of origin is often a part of the record.... Is this
generally the actual birthplace of the individual or the most recent
residence before moving to the location where the record was made?
Herbert Lazerow replied:

Neither. This is the place to which the individual is officially
registered. It cost money to change your registration, so my KIMELMAN
family were still "townspeople of Vitebsk" in 1910, though they had
lived in Nezhin Ukraine since at least 1852, and the parents of many of
them had been born in Nezhin.
This is not necessarily the reason in all cases. My family lived on Jewish
agricultural colonies in the south-east Ukraine. They settled there in 1846
having come in the main >from Lithuania. Recently acquired Revision Lists
from 1858 show that listings of the families then living in the Ukrainian
colonies included a statement which proceeded most family groups lists
">from the community of Rassein" etc. This was recorded since the colonists
travelled in 1846 in convoys as a specific group denoted by town of and
accepted by the authorities as potential colonists. This information is
invaluable to assertain towns of origin instead of the common
generalizatiom ">from Kovno Guberniya".

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: fridman@ultinet.co.il


March-April 1946 "Bialystoker Shtimmer" #general

Miriam Deitcher <deitcher@...>
 

I've been directed by a very helpful JewGenner to a list of "Jews in
Bialystok After the War"
in the March-April 1946 issue of the "Bialystoker Shtimmer". I've
searched the internet and the JewGen discussion forum archives and can't
find any info on that publication. I assume it's a magazine or
newspaper of some sort. Anyone have any ideas how I might find this
particular publication. A possible ancestor (Naftoli NOTOWICZ) is on
the list and I'd like to see if there's more info included. I'm excited
to see that someone >from my grandmother's family may have actually
survived the Holocaust. This is my most difficult branch, and any help
is greatly appreciated. Please reply privately.

Miriam S. Deitcher
Shaker Heights, OH
deitcher@nowonline.net

Searching:
NOTOWICH/NOTOWICZ/NOTOVICH - Bialystok
SZMULEWICZ - Belchatow, Sulejow, Lodz, Piotrkow
KATZENELSON - Belarus (possibly Sitnya)
BRAUNER - Sulejow
DAJCZER - Radomsko


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen March-April 1946 "Bialystoker Shtimmer" #general

Miriam Deitcher <deitcher@...>
 

I've been directed by a very helpful JewGenner to a list of "Jews in
Bialystok After the War"
in the March-April 1946 issue of the "Bialystoker Shtimmer". I've
searched the internet and the JewGen discussion forum archives and can't
find any info on that publication. I assume it's a magazine or
newspaper of some sort. Anyone have any ideas how I might find this
particular publication. A possible ancestor (Naftoli NOTOWICZ) is on
the list and I'd like to see if there's more info included. I'm excited
to see that someone >from my grandmother's family may have actually
survived the Holocaust. This is my most difficult branch, and any help
is greatly appreciated. Please reply privately.

Miriam S. Deitcher
Shaker Heights, OH
deitcher@nowonline.net

Searching:
NOTOWICH/NOTOWICZ/NOTOVICH - Bialystok
SZMULEWICZ - Belchatow, Sulejow, Lodz, Piotrkow
KATZENELSON - Belarus (possibly Sitnya)
BRAUNER - Sulejow
DAJCZER - Radomsko


Cemetery in East Haven, CT. #general

Judith Wolkovitch <102444.44@...>
 

Is there anyone living near the Cemetery on Pardee Place in East HAven, Ct.
who could look at a gravestone for me to find the name of the father of
Mordecai Belasco who died around 1924? I would be happy to reciprocate for
information in Los Angeles. Please reply privately.

Many thanks,

Judy Wolkovitch (nee Horowicz) 102444.44@compuserve.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetery in East Haven, CT. #general

Judith Wolkovitch <102444.44@...>
 

Is there anyone living near the Cemetery on Pardee Place in East HAven, Ct.
who could look at a gravestone for me to find the name of the father of
Mordecai Belasco who died around 1924? I would be happy to reciprocate for
information in Los Angeles. Please reply privately.

Many thanks,

Judy Wolkovitch (nee Horowicz) 102444.44@compuserve.com


Greater New York Sick and Benevolent Society #general

ellen graham <egraham@...>
 

Does anyone recognize this burial society ? My great grandparents are
buried at Baron Hirsch in Staten Island N.Y. with this society.

Thank you for your help.

Ellen


Researching

INDIANER, INDEN, >from Jaroslaw and NY
NADANER, SPERBER >from Warsaw
SPIEGEL. ROCKMAKER, SCHWARTZ,
BOBER, GINSBERG, KLEIN, DOROGUSKER, VECTHER >from Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Greater New York Sick and Benevolent Society #general

ellen graham <egraham@...>
 

Does anyone recognize this burial society ? My great grandparents are
buried at Baron Hirsch in Staten Island N.Y. with this society.

Thank you for your help.

Ellen


Researching

INDIANER, INDEN, >from Jaroslaw and NY
NADANER, SPERBER >from Warsaw
SPIEGEL. ROCKMAKER, SCHWARTZ,
BOBER, GINSBERG, KLEIN, DOROGUSKER, VECTHER >from Belarus


Success story #general

Jenny Jackson <jenny@...>
 

I have looked forward to the day that I could join others in posting success
stories. After starting my research 2 years ago with no family tree beyond
my parents and their parents, I now have extensive information about all
branches of my family history. I have used the services of two researchers,
one in Romania and one in Poland who have been very successful in finding
family records. The latter took over a year, but finally struck a goldmine
of records and information for the shtetl of Kutno. I live in Melbourne,
Australia and have relied on the Internet for almost all of my research.

Other family members have been delighted with the discoveries too. Now we
know the names, dates and some information about my great-great-great
grandparents going back to the early 1800s. Through the process I have
developed relationships with overseas relatives whom I didn't know existed.
And I have also developed friendships with other researchers who have
provided me with invaluable help and advice. And now, whether they are ever
interested or not, my children will have a sense of all of the people that
contributed to their genes and their upbringing.

I still have one mystery to uncover - the fate of my uncle who was separated
from his brother (my father) in Auschwitz when my father was sent to factory
work. Maybe I'll never receive confirmation of his fate, but I will keep
trying.

Jenny Jackson
Melbourne, Australia
jenny@alphalink.com.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Success story #general

Jenny Jackson <jenny@...>
 

I have looked forward to the day that I could join others in posting success
stories. After starting my research 2 years ago with no family tree beyond
my parents and their parents, I now have extensive information about all
branches of my family history. I have used the services of two researchers,
one in Romania and one in Poland who have been very successful in finding
family records. The latter took over a year, but finally struck a goldmine
of records and information for the shtetl of Kutno. I live in Melbourne,
Australia and have relied on the Internet for almost all of my research.

Other family members have been delighted with the discoveries too. Now we
know the names, dates and some information about my great-great-great
grandparents going back to the early 1800s. Through the process I have
developed relationships with overseas relatives whom I didn't know existed.
And I have also developed friendships with other researchers who have
provided me with invaluable help and advice. And now, whether they are ever
interested or not, my children will have a sense of all of the people that
contributed to their genes and their upbringing.

I still have one mystery to uncover - the fate of my uncle who was separated
from his brother (my father) in Auschwitz when my father was sent to factory
work. Maybe I'll never receive confirmation of his fate, but I will keep
trying.

Jenny Jackson
Melbourne, Australia
jenny@alphalink.com.au


KALISCH from Mukachevo #general

Jay Lauber <familygen@...>
 

Hi

I am looking for anyone with information on
KALISCH >from Mukachevo (Munkacs) Ukraine.

Thanks in Advance
Jay Lauber
familygen@juno.com

Researching:
BREUER Serdehel, Hungary.
FARKAS Kolodne, Ukraine. FARKAS Behutz, Ukraine (near Solotvina).
FEDERWEISS Serdehel, Hungary. KATZ, LAUBER Rachov, Ukraine.
LAUBER Kolomyya, Ukraine. LAUBER Wien, Austria.
LAX Sighet, Romania. TESSLER Felsoviso. ZICHERMAN

MODERATOR NOTE: Enter the surname in the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KALISCH from Mukachevo #general

Jay Lauber <familygen@...>
 

Hi

I am looking for anyone with information on
KALISCH >from Mukachevo (Munkacs) Ukraine.

Thanks in Advance
Jay Lauber
familygen@juno.com

Researching:
BREUER Serdehel, Hungary.
FARKAS Kolodne, Ukraine. FARKAS Behutz, Ukraine (near Solotvina).
FEDERWEISS Serdehel, Hungary. KATZ, LAUBER Rachov, Ukraine.
LAUBER Kolomyya, Ukraine. LAUBER Wien, Austria.
LAX Sighet, Romania. TESSLER Felsoviso. ZICHERMAN

MODERATOR NOTE: Enter the surname in the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF)
It is one of our most heavily visited sites. Other people researching
the same names will be able to see it in future searches. JGFF can be
accessed directly >from our homepage: http://www.jewishgen.org


1905 NY Census #general

Michael Meshenberg <meshenbm@...>
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:38:47 EST, Sherry Kamens (Sjkmb4@aol.com) wrote:

Does anyone have access to the 1905 NYC census which would give the E.D.
for 65 Ludlow Street. Thanks
A combined card index to street names and house addresses has been prepared for
New York County, for the New York state census for 1905, 1915 and 1925. Each
card shows, for each address, the AD (Assembly District), ED (Enumeration
District), and page number which is then used to obtain the film with the census
page for that address. Both the card file and the censuses have been filmed by
the Family History Library and is available on loan >from any Family History
Center. 65 Ludlow Street is on Film #1504037.

The films are also available in the NY Public Library and various other
repositories in NYC.

Mike Meshenberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1905 NY Census #general

Michael Meshenberg <meshenbm@...>
 

On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:38:47 EST, Sherry Kamens (Sjkmb4@aol.com) wrote:

Does anyone have access to the 1905 NYC census which would give the E.D.
for 65 Ludlow Street. Thanks
A combined card index to street names and house addresses has been prepared for
New York County, for the New York state census for 1905, 1915 and 1925. Each
card shows, for each address, the AD (Assembly District), ED (Enumeration
District), and page number which is then used to obtain the film with the census
page for that address. Both the card file and the censuses have been filmed by
the Family History Library and is available on loan >from any Family History
Center. 65 Ludlow Street is on Film #1504037.

The films are also available in the NY Public Library and various other
repositories in NYC.

Mike Meshenberg


Re: Standards for Family History #general

cat2steve@...
 

The URL for the Op-Ed piece mentioned below can be found at:
http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-02/14/017l-021499-idx
.html

Steve Snyder
cat2steve@juno.com
Reston, VA

Herbert Gursky <gurskyh@erols.com> writes:


A recent article in the Washington Post (Outlook Section,
14 February 1999)relating to the writing of obituaries
reveals the journalist's perspective. E. R. Shipp, the
paper's Ombudsman, writes of the distinction between death
notices, which are classified ads, and obituaries, which
are news stories. In particular obituaries may contain
unflattering information such as unpleasant divorces,
criminal activities or other information that could be
embarassing to the family but essential to the journalist.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Standards for Family History #general

cat2steve@...
 

The URL for the Op-Ed piece mentioned below can be found at:
http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-02/14/017l-021499-idx
.html

Steve Snyder
cat2steve@juno.com
Reston, VA

Herbert Gursky <gurskyh@erols.com> writes:


A recent article in the Washington Post (Outlook Section,
14 February 1999)relating to the writing of obituaries
reveals the journalist's perspective. E. R. Shipp, the
paper's Ombudsman, writes of the distinction between death
notices, which are classified ads, and obituaries, which
are news stories. In particular obituaries may contain
unflattering information such as unpleasant divorces,
criminal activities or other information that could be
embarassing to the family but essential to the journalist.


Searching cousins Sam or Dov GOLDBERG, Toronto #general

Ada <adag@...>
 

In trying to complete my family tree, I need information on my Auntie
Shaindel's branch of the GLUSTEIN family. My first cousin, Becky
Skulsky, daughter of Shaindel, married to Zawel GOLDBERG, had two sons,
Sam and Dov, originally >from Ottawa, who apparently now live in Toronto,
Ontario. No one else in the family seems to know their addresses.

If you know these brothers, could you please call and one and give my
e-mail address or e-mail me and let me know their addresses. Their
grandmother was my aunt. Their mother and father are deceased, and I
don't know how to contact their mother's sisters or them.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Ada Glustein,
Vancouver, B. C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching cousins Sam or Dov GOLDBERG, Toronto #general

Ada <adag@...>
 

In trying to complete my family tree, I need information on my Auntie
Shaindel's branch of the GLUSTEIN family. My first cousin, Becky
Skulsky, daughter of Shaindel, married to Zawel GOLDBERG, had two sons,
Sam and Dov, originally >from Ottawa, who apparently now live in Toronto,
Ontario. No one else in the family seems to know their addresses.

If you know these brothers, could you please call and one and give my
e-mail address or e-mail me and let me know their addresses. Their
grandmother was my aunt. Their mother and father are deceased, and I
don't know how to contact their mother's sisters or them.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Ada Glustein,
Vancouver, B. C.


Uncle Tevye #lithuania

Monty Starr <monty@...>
 

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email access. Another relative >from Keidan gave me the yizkor book a few =
years ago and on reading it I found a reference to my late father in a =
contribution by his good friend Rabbi Moshe Fishleder of Mexico City. =
When my late mother was in her mid eighties I taped part of her life =
story which included a graphic description of their expulsion during the =
first world war and their trek on a cart to Vilna.
My reference to the Keidan archive was because I think I might have =
located the grave of my great grandfather in the cemetery database and I =
would like to find his marriage and children's births. Two of his =
daughters and one son emigrated to Philadephia and I am in contact with =
part of that family.
My great uncle, Hirshel Bloshtein is also written about a couple of =
times in the yizkor book as a well published Yiddish author. I have in =
my possession about 25 letters in Yiddish and Russian >from him to my =
father covering the period >from 1913 to 1925 and I have just had a =
couple published in the journal of the Oxford Institute of Yiddish =
Studies with a couple of my father's works also.
My sister went with a group to Vilnius and Keidan last year and went to =
the address where she was born in Smilgagass but the house had gone. She =
spoke with a lady in Vilnius who was in the ninth fort with my =
grandmother and her family and was a witness to their selection for =
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Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Uncle Tevye #lithuania

Monty Starr <monty@...>
 

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My uncle Tevye does not know English nor as far as I know does he have =
email access. Another relative >from Keidan gave me the yizkor book a few =
years ago and on reading it I found a reference to my late father in a =
contribution by his good friend Rabbi Moshe Fishleder of Mexico City. =
When my late mother was in her mid eighties I taped part of her life =
story which included a graphic description of their expulsion during the =
first world war and their trek on a cart to Vilna.
My reference to the Keidan archive was because I think I might have =
located the grave of my great grandfather in the cemetery database and I =
would like to find his marriage and children's births. Two of his =
daughters and one son emigrated to Philadephia and I am in contact with =
part of that family.
My great uncle, Hirshel Bloshtein is also written about a couple of =
times in the yizkor book as a well published Yiddish author. I have in =
my possession about 25 letters in Yiddish and Russian >from him to my =
father covering the period >from 1913 to 1925 and I have just had a =
couple published in the journal of the Oxford Institute of Yiddish =
Studies with a couple of my father's works also.
My sister went with a group to Vilnius and Keidan last year and went to =
the address where she was born in Smilgagass but the house had gone. She =
spoke with a lady in Vilnius who was in the ninth fort with my =
grandmother and her family and was a witness to their selection for =
murder.

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Yiddish=20
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and I=20
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