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Frumkin seal online #general

Guillermo Steinberg <guillo@...>
 

Hello dear people,
some time ago I
asked for some explanation about a crown in my
great-grandfather's sealing wax stamp. You might want to take a
look at it in Mr. Louis Frydman's Frumkin Website, who kindly
hosted my Frumkin files as well as these images of the seal. The
address is: <www.frumkin.org.il> Then click on "Other Frumkins"
to see my files and the seal. Please let me know what do you
think. Many thanks,
Guillermo Steinberg
Firenze, Italia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Frumkin seal online #general

Guillermo Steinberg <guillo@...>
 

Hello dear people,
some time ago I
asked for some explanation about a crown in my
great-grandfather's sealing wax stamp. You might want to take a
look at it in Mr. Louis Frydman's Frumkin Website, who kindly
hosted my Frumkin files as well as these images of the seal. The
address is: <www.frumkin.org.il> Then click on "Other Frumkins"
to see my files and the seal. Please let me know what do you
think. Many thanks,
Guillermo Steinberg
Firenze, Italia


Hebrew masculine name Britel #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

At first glance the obvious association is to bris / brit, covenant.
Per Kolatch's 1984 Hebrew name dictionary
- Brit-El, Britel means covenant of G-d
- Brit, Britt has 2 meanings: short for Briton which is an early name for
Wales and also Hebrew, covenant


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hebrew masculine name Britel #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

At first glance the obvious association is to bris / brit, covenant.
Per Kolatch's 1984 Hebrew name dictionary
- Brit-El, Britel means covenant of G-d
- Brit, Britt has 2 meanings: short for Briton which is an early name for
Wales and also Hebrew, covenant


Re: Hebrew Names in Judaism #general

Neil de Reybekill <dereybna@...>
 

Could anyone help?
My dad was born into a rebellious Jewish family, so I was not brought
up Jewish. His mother - Helena Szapiro/Shapiro - brought him up on
her own and her father - my father's maternal grandfather - was
called Aron Szapiro.
When one is called up to the bimah, a hebrew name is used. Does that
relate to parentage: so that my gran (who wouldn't have been
called-up even had she wanted to) would have been 'bat-Aron'? Or is
it something different?
What are these naming conventions? How do they work? Can anyone
suggest any sources for this?
Thanks in advance,
Neil

Neil de Reybekill
Birmingham
United Kingdom
(N.A.DE@...)

MODERATOR NOTE: See the JewishGen InfoFiles on names, listed at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/#Names>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew Names in Judaism #general

Neil de Reybekill <dereybna@...>
 

Could anyone help?
My dad was born into a rebellious Jewish family, so I was not brought
up Jewish. His mother - Helena Szapiro/Shapiro - brought him up on
her own and her father - my father's maternal grandfather - was
called Aron Szapiro.
When one is called up to the bimah, a hebrew name is used. Does that
relate to parentage: so that my gran (who wouldn't have been
called-up even had she wanted to) would have been 'bat-Aron'? Or is
it something different?
What are these naming conventions? How do they work? Can anyone
suggest any sources for this?
Thanks in advance,
Neil

Neil de Reybekill
Birmingham
United Kingdom
(N.A.DE@...)

MODERATOR NOTE: See the JewishGen InfoFiles on names, listed at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/#Names>


Re: Hirsch/Hershel/Zvi/ Naphtali Herz. #general

Leonardo Herzenberg <cherzenb@...>
 

So the notion that the "Herz" component in the name Naphtali-Herz
represents "heart" is almost certainly mistaken; while the notion that
Hirsch/Hershel = Herz/Herzl is certainly correct, as long as we
understand that in this case Herz is simply another spelling for a male
deer.
Judith Romney Wegner
In my family the story goes that when the last names became a requirement,
the name Hirschenberg, with the Naftali connection, was erroneously
transcribed into Herzenberg by a government clerk,

Leonardo Herzenberg e-mail: herzenberg@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hirsch/Hershel/Zvi/ Naphtali Herz. #general

Leonardo Herzenberg <cherzenb@...>
 

So the notion that the "Herz" component in the name Naphtali-Herz
represents "heart" is almost certainly mistaken; while the notion that
Hirsch/Hershel = Herz/Herzl is certainly correct, as long as we
understand that in this case Herz is simply another spelling for a male
deer.
Judith Romney Wegner
In my family the story goes that when the last names became a requirement,
the name Hirschenberg, with the Naftali connection, was erroneously
transcribed into Herzenberg by a government clerk,

Leonardo Herzenberg e-mail: herzenberg@...


Re: A terminological point #general

Simon Barak
 

My grandfather was known to all as Simche Bark. His parents called him
Simcha. His Russian neighbours called him Sima. His Russian passport was
on the name Semion. Arriving to Argentina this was changed to Simon. To his
wife he allways was Semuchka.
Querry: What was his first name, his forename, his given name?

Stan Goodman wrote:

"Given name" is the same as "forename" and "first name".
The terms "given name" and "surname" (or "family name") are much to be
preferred
pollins@... (Harold Pollins) followed:
Since joining this list I observe the use of the word 'given' to refer
to forenames. This was a new usage to me and I wondered about it.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A terminological point #general

Simon Barak
 

My grandfather was known to all as Simche Bark. His parents called him
Simcha. His Russian neighbours called him Sima. His Russian passport was
on the name Semion. Arriving to Argentina this was changed to Simon. To his
wife he allways was Semuchka.
Querry: What was his first name, his forename, his given name?

Stan Goodman wrote:

"Given name" is the same as "forename" and "first name".
The terms "given name" and "surname" (or "family name") are much to be
preferred
pollins@... (Harold Pollins) followed:
Since joining this list I observe the use of the word 'given' to refer
to forenames. This was a new usage to me and I wondered about it.


Re: Emigration from Odessa to the US via Turkey and France #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Why do you say "mythical ship" Pampa. There was a Pampa, which ran >from
Havre to South America >from 1878 until scrapped in 1905. This ship
belonged to the famous line Chargeurs Reunis.
Paul Silverstone

Guillermo Steinberg wrote:

The path was: Istanbul
(Turkey) => Marseille (France) by ship; Marseille => Bordeaux by train;
Bordeaux => Pauillac by ship; Pauillac => Le Havre => Buenos Aires, by
the mythical ship "Pampa", which followed to La Plata. This group of
people was known as "Stambulers" (the ones >from Istanbul) or "Pampistas"
(those of the "Pampa").
Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Emigration from Odessa to the US via Turkey and France #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Why do you say "mythical ship" Pampa. There was a Pampa, which ran >from
Havre to South America >from 1878 until scrapped in 1905. This ship
belonged to the famous line Chargeurs Reunis.
Paul Silverstone

Guillermo Steinberg wrote:

The path was: Istanbul
(Turkey) => Marseille (France) by ship; Marseille => Bordeaux by train;
Bordeaux => Pauillac by ship; Pauillac => Le Havre => Buenos Aires, by
the mythical ship "Pampa", which followed to La Plata. This group of
people was known as "Stambulers" (the ones >from Istanbul) or "Pampistas"
(those of the "Pampa").
Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@...


Louis Schonfeld IN CONCERT #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

H-SIGers,

We at the Columbus Jewish Historical Society have the pleasure of presenting Louis Schonfeld, "in concert" at the CJHS next week.
Louis will educate us as much as he can in 90 minutes on the topic of
Hungarian Jewish Genealogy. If you are anywhere near Columbus, Ohio next
Thursday, Feb 11, please plan to attend our genealogy program. It promises
to be quite interesting.

For more information, see http://www.gcis.net/cjhs/

Marc Polster,
Trustee, CJHS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Louis Schonfeld IN CONCERT #hungary

Marc and/or Laura Polster <mpolster@...>
 

H-SIGers,

We at the Columbus Jewish Historical Society have the pleasure of presenting Louis Schonfeld, "in concert" at the CJHS next week.
Louis will educate us as much as he can in 90 minutes on the topic of
Hungarian Jewish Genealogy. If you are anywhere near Columbus, Ohio next
Thursday, Feb 11, please plan to attend our genealogy program. It promises
to be quite interesting.

For more information, see http://www.gcis.net/cjhs/

Marc Polster,
Trustee, CJHS


Research Contacts #general

MDing88835@...
 

Are resource contact available in Bacau Romania??

Monroe Dingott
MDing88835@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research Contacts #general

MDing88835@...
 

Are resource contact available in Bacau Romania??

Monroe Dingott
MDing88835@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


1828 and 1763 Munkacs censuses posted to HSIG web page #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

Hello

For those researching Munkacs, the actual photocopied pages of the 1828 and 1763 Munkacs census have been scanned and posted on the HSIG webpage.

Browse http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/Data.htm

You will note the two Munkacs census reports there.

Dennis Baer

mod. Thanks to Rhoda Miller, Marc Polster and especially Dennis Baer for all his efforts and his dedication to Munkacs, and the memory of his Schantz forebearers. The next step is for someone with a good eye for deciphering to transcribe and index the data.LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1828 and 1763 Munkacs censuses posted to HSIG web page #hungary

Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
 

Hello

For those researching Munkacs, the actual photocopied pages of the 1828 and 1763 Munkacs census have been scanned and posted on the HSIG webpage.

Browse http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/Data.htm

You will note the two Munkacs census reports there.

Dennis Baer

mod. Thanks to Rhoda Miller, Marc Polster and especially Dennis Baer for all his efforts and his dedication to Munkacs, and the memory of his Schantz forebearers. The next step is for someone with a good eye for deciphering to transcribe and index the data.LS


Successful beginnings #general

AIChernoff@...
 

Several weeks ago, I sent an e-mail to this site concerning my finding a
book about the Rabbi of Konigsberg, Arieh Leb haLevi Epstein. Since
then, I have heard >from at least a dozen different people, established the
linkage to my own paternal family tree and added significant information to
at least some of the researchers doing work on the haLevi Epstein tree.
This note is merely to express my thanks to the many who helped me get
started and to my newly found 'cousins'. Should any one want more
specific information on the emerging family tree of Chernichovsky/Chernoff,
please feel free to contact me at aichernoff@...
Again, many thanks for all your input. Amoz Chernoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Successful beginnings #general

AIChernoff@...
 

Several weeks ago, I sent an e-mail to this site concerning my finding a
book about the Rabbi of Konigsberg, Arieh Leb haLevi Epstein. Since
then, I have heard >from at least a dozen different people, established the
linkage to my own paternal family tree and added significant information to
at least some of the researchers doing work on the haLevi Epstein tree.
This note is merely to express my thanks to the many who helped me get
started and to my newly found 'cousins'. Should any one want more
specific information on the emerging family tree of Chernichovsky/Chernoff,
please feel free to contact me at aichernoff@...
Again, many thanks for all your input. Amoz Chernoff