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American Jewish Historicl Society Corrected information #lithuania

DBH12345
 

Subj: AJHS NY, correction
Date: 2/3/99 6:45:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: abigail@... (Abigail H. Schoolman)
Sender: owner-amjhistory@...
Reply-to: amjhistory@...

Until further notice, the American Jewish Historical Society New York
administrative office (Michael Feldberg, Donna Leonard, Rachel Chodorov)
should be reached through its previous numbers: telephone 212-541-8786, fax
212-541-6073.

The new numbers should be working by the end of this week.
An announcement will be made when the new numbers go into effect.

For research questions and membership information please continue to
contact the Waltham office:

2 Thornton Road
Waltham, Ma. 02453
Phone: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
email: ajhs@...

Abigail H. Schoolman, C.A.
Archivist and AMJHISTORY moderator
American Jewish Historical Society
2 Thornton Road
Waltham, MA 02453
Tel: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
Web: www.ajhs.org

The American Jewish Historical Society is an equal opportunity employer.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania American Jewish Historicl Society Corrected information #lithuania

DBH12345
 

Subj: AJHS NY, correction
Date: 2/3/99 6:45:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: abigail@... (Abigail H. Schoolman)
Sender: owner-amjhistory@...
Reply-to: amjhistory@...

Until further notice, the American Jewish Historical Society New York
administrative office (Michael Feldberg, Donna Leonard, Rachel Chodorov)
should be reached through its previous numbers: telephone 212-541-8786, fax
212-541-6073.

The new numbers should be working by the end of this week.
An announcement will be made when the new numbers go into effect.

For research questions and membership information please continue to
contact the Waltham office:

2 Thornton Road
Waltham, Ma. 02453
Phone: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
email: ajhs@...

Abigail H. Schoolman, C.A.
Archivist and AMJHISTORY moderator
American Jewish Historical Society
2 Thornton Road
Waltham, MA 02453
Tel: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
Web: www.ajhs.org

The American Jewish Historical Society is an equal opportunity employer.


Searching LEVITT of Radun #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

In a message dated 03-02-1999 12:53:45 AM Central Standard Time, LevittmG
writes:


My family, The Samuel Levitts Were in Radun which is Belarus today. But they
were Litvaks and these borders were different before W.W.II. Would any of
these records still be in the central archives for Lithuania today?
Melba Levitt Gold

LevittmG@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: Searching LEVITT of Radun #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

In a message dated 03-02-1999 12:53:45 AM Central Standard Time, LevittmG
writes:


My family, The Samuel Levitts Were in Radun which is Belarus today. But they
were Litvaks and these borders were different before W.W.II. Would any of
these records still be in the central archives for Lithuania today?
Melba Levitt Gold

LevittmG@...


Jewish-Lithuanian Forum #lithuania

Curiousyl@...
 

For informational purposes only.
Please e-mail comments to curiousyl@...

Sylvia

Jewish-Lithuanian Forum

LABAS:

We are ready to begin our Jewish-Lithuanian Forum as there are 21 members
of this list - the vast majority being Jewish-Lithuanian.

Perhaps we can begin by introducing ourselves. My name is Sandra Souveskas
and I am the web-master for Lithuanian Global Resources and 2nd Generation
Lithuanian/American.

As a beginning discussion topic: How about THE trial in Vilnius? I
recently posting an article intact received >from our Jewish-Lithuanian
correspondent in Vilnius.

Also, since I am not Jewish, I wish to turn this list over to a
Jewish-Lithuanian volunteer to moderate this discussion group. If you have
an interest in this position, please write: LithuanianGlobal@...

So, let's get the ball rolling! WELCOME !!!

Sandra
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: Jewish-Lithuanian Forum #lithuania

Curiousyl@...
 

For informational purposes only.
Please e-mail comments to curiousyl@...

Sylvia

Jewish-Lithuanian Forum

LABAS:

We are ready to begin our Jewish-Lithuanian Forum as there are 21 members
of this list - the vast majority being Jewish-Lithuanian.

Perhaps we can begin by introducing ourselves. My name is Sandra Souveskas
and I am the web-master for Lithuanian Global Resources and 2nd Generation
Lithuanian/American.

As a beginning discussion topic: How about THE trial in Vilnius? I
recently posting an article intact received >from our Jewish-Lithuanian
correspondent in Vilnius.

Also, since I am not Jewish, I wish to turn this list over to a
Jewish-Lithuanian volunteer to moderate this discussion group. If you have
an interest in this position, please write: LithuanianGlobal@...

So, let's get the ball rolling! WELCOME !!!

Sandra
____________________________________________________

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Re: Free family research ? #lithuania

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Thank you also for volunteering to input. I will be in touch privately with
your assignment.
I am also interested in volunteering to input. I am especially interested in
helping with info on the city of Vilna but, am willing to help where needed

Scott Noar
sman@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Free family research ? #lithuania

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Thank you also for volunteering to input. I will be in touch privately with
your assignment.
I am also interested in volunteering to input. I am especially interested in
helping with info on the city of Vilna but, am willing to help where needed

Scott Noar
sman@...


Jews in Lithuania and the Russian Language #lithuania

eliallon@...
 

I'd like to add a comment to Zvi Griliches' note:
"One should understand that being pious in Lithuania was not the same as
being ultra-othodox today in the US or Israel. Pious parents also often
wanted their children to succeed in the world and helped them to acquire
skills, including language skills."

While this may be true, a great many Jews in Russia mistrusted the
government's attempt to impose Russian language instruction upon them,
with good reason. The government's primary motive to weaken the hold of
Torah observance and increase assimilation on the Jewish population.
When the government tried to impose secular studies upon the famous
Volozhin Yeshiva, their intent was to undermine the Yeshiva, not to
improve the education at the school. The Rosh HaYeshiva, Rabbi Naphtali
Zvi Yehudah Berlin, chose to close the yeshiva rather than submit to the
government mandated changes (for a detailed discussion on this, I suggest
you read "My Uncle, The Netziv," published by Art Scroll/Mesorah
Publications).

At the risk of sounding like the language police, I would like to bring
to the attention of Zvi Griliches and others that Torah observant Jews
take great offence at being labeled "Ultra-Orthodox". It is a
description that implies extremism, and is thrown out loosely and
carelessly, especially in the media. Would Reform Jews like being
described as Ultra Reform (maybe some would)? I ask you to raise your
consciousness about and sensitivity to fellow Jews, and look for a less
offensive description (might I suggest "very religious" or the Hebrew
word "chareidim", which could be translated as very pious or religious).

I realize that this last comment was off the subject of genealogy, but I
think that it is important that we build bridges toward other Jews, not
put them in boxes with labels.

Eliyahu Allon
eliallon@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: While the last comment was, in fact, off topic, it is important to be reminded of ways we can strengthen communication between ourselves. It is not, however, the subject for a continuing thread on the Litvak SIG Discussion Group.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Jews in Lithuania and the Russian Language #lithuania

eliallon@...
 

I'd like to add a comment to Zvi Griliches' note:
"One should understand that being pious in Lithuania was not the same as
being ultra-othodox today in the US or Israel. Pious parents also often
wanted their children to succeed in the world and helped them to acquire
skills, including language skills."

While this may be true, a great many Jews in Russia mistrusted the
government's attempt to impose Russian language instruction upon them,
with good reason. The government's primary motive to weaken the hold of
Torah observance and increase assimilation on the Jewish population.
When the government tried to impose secular studies upon the famous
Volozhin Yeshiva, their intent was to undermine the Yeshiva, not to
improve the education at the school. The Rosh HaYeshiva, Rabbi Naphtali
Zvi Yehudah Berlin, chose to close the yeshiva rather than submit to the
government mandated changes (for a detailed discussion on this, I suggest
you read "My Uncle, The Netziv," published by Art Scroll/Mesorah
Publications).

At the risk of sounding like the language police, I would like to bring
to the attention of Zvi Griliches and others that Torah observant Jews
take great offence at being labeled "Ultra-Orthodox". It is a
description that implies extremism, and is thrown out loosely and
carelessly, especially in the media. Would Reform Jews like being
described as Ultra Reform (maybe some would)? I ask you to raise your
consciousness about and sensitivity to fellow Jews, and look for a less
offensive description (might I suggest "very religious" or the Hebrew
word "chareidim", which could be translated as very pious or religious).

I realize that this last comment was off the subject of genealogy, but I
think that it is important that we build bridges toward other Jews, not
put them in boxes with labels.

Eliyahu Allon
eliallon@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: While the last comment was, in fact, off topic, it is important to be reminded of ways we can strengthen communication between ourselves. It is not, however, the subject for a continuing thread on the Litvak SIG Discussion Group.


empty page #lithuania

Magda Lapedus <Magdil@...>
 

Hi Friends,
I received the copy of an e-mail sent by Hadar Isseroff
<jsseroh@...>
For unknown reason the text didn't show on the letter only the sender, and
subject. Could anybody copy this letter to me? Many thanks.
Regards,
Magda


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania empty page #lithuania

Magda Lapedus <Magdil@...>
 

Hi Friends,
I received the copy of an e-mail sent by Hadar Isseroff
<jsseroh@...>
For unknown reason the text didn't show on the letter only the sender, and
subject. Could anybody copy this letter to me? Many thanks.
Regards,
Magda


Re: Is Kindred Konnections mining our family trees? #latvia

proprius@...
 

The letter >from Prof. G. L. Esterson is a good warning. One must really
consider what will happen to any material posted on the web. At the risk of
sounding paranoid, I must say that I live in an area with few, if any, Jews
and I know there are many people who are still anti-Semitic. I don't want to
disseminate anything concerning my family that could hurt them if it falls
into unfriendly hands.
Cynthia Spikell


Prof. G. L. Esterson wrote:

Dick Eastman has just reported the following about Kindred Konnections:

-------------------
"Kindred Konnections has had an online Web site for some time now.
They have been best known for their database of relationships,
much of which was created >from GEDCOM files submitted to them.
Their database presently contains more than 24 million names and
is available on a subscription basis. The folks at Kindred
Konnections haven't been idle, however. At GENTECH99 they
introduced several new services.

Kindred Konnections says that they are now indexing all the
genealogy-related Web pages on the Internet. The server at Kindred
Konnections looks for other Web pages that contain GEDCOM files,
text files in certain formats, plus several other file formats. Their Web
pages report that 2,652,450 names >from other pedigree-linked Internet
sites have been indexed, and that number is growing daily.

With the new software on Kindred Konnections' server, you can
upload a GEDCOM file, which will automatically be compared to the
24 million names in the internal database as well as compared
against several million more names on other Internet sites. You
will then be notified of all the possible matches."
---------------

Their indexing of genealogy-related web pages having GEDCOM
or other types of genealogy data files on them means that they
are using a spider to extract these family trees >from the web
sites of family genealogists without asking permission, and they
are then entering these data into their large data base without
the knowledge of the genealogists who did the original research
to develop the trees.

I personally consider this activity to be a form of piracy. I also
believe that all genealogists who are considering publishing their
trees on the web in the form of GEDCOM, text files (e.g.,
descendant lists), or other similar formats should think seriously
about whether they would want KK to extract their data without
their knowledge.
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Is Kindred Konnections mining our family trees? #lithuania

proprius@...
 

The letter >from Prof. G. L. Esterson is a good warning. One must really
consider what will happen to any material posted on the web. At the risk of
sounding paranoid, I must say that I live in an area with few, if any, Jews
and I know there are many people who are still anti-Semitic. I don't want to
disseminate anything concerning my family that could hurt them if it falls
into unfriendly hands.
Cynthia Spikell


Prof. G. L. Esterson wrote:

Dick Eastman has just reported the following about Kindred Konnections:

-------------------
"Kindred Konnections has had an online Web site for some time now.
They have been best known for their database of relationships,
much of which was created >from GEDCOM files submitted to them.
Their database presently contains more than 24 million names and
is available on a subscription basis. The folks at Kindred
Konnections haven't been idle, however. At GENTECH99 they
introduced several new services.

Kindred Konnections says that they are now indexing all the
genealogy-related Web pages on the Internet. The server at Kindred
Konnections looks for other Web pages that contain GEDCOM files,
text files in certain formats, plus several other file formats. Their Web
pages report that 2,652,450 names >from other pedigree-linked Internet
sites have been indexed, and that number is growing daily.

With the new software on Kindred Konnections' server, you can
upload a GEDCOM file, which will automatically be compared to the
24 million names in the internal database as well as compared
against several million more names on other Internet sites. You
will then be notified of all the possible matches."
---------------

Their indexing of genealogy-related web pages having GEDCOM
or other types of genealogy data files on them means that they
are using a spider to extract these family trees >from the web
sites of family genealogists without asking permission, and they
are then entering these data into their large data base without
the knowledge of the genealogists who did the original research
to develop the trees.

I personally consider this activity to be a form of piracy. I also
believe that all genealogists who are considering publishing their
trees on the web in the form of GEDCOM, text files (e.g.,
descendant lists), or other similar formats should think seriously
about whether they would want KK to extract their data without
their knowledge.
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Testimony by Dr. Tsharniak of shtetl Horodetz #general

Gene and Ellen Sucov <genellen@...>
 

I have located and begun to translate the testimony of Dr. Tsharniak from
the the shtetl of Horodetz, Kobrin district, Grodno gubernia. He mentions
25 Jews, 3 Poles and 2 Belarussians in his testimony. He also mention the
following places: Brzesc, Pinsk, Horodetz, Drohiczyn, Kobryn, Gruszowa,
Janow and Barania Gora.
I have translated the short biography of Dr. Tsharniak.
If there is any interest in receiving this biography please contact me
privately by email.
Gene Sucov
Searching:
SUCHOWCZYCKI >from Horodetz (Kobrin district), Bialystok, Brest, Pruzhany
ERINGER >from Bialystok; SHLAFMITZ >from Zarebi-Koscielne, Malkinia;
LITEWKA >from Zarebi-Koscielne; LIST >from Malkinia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Testimony by Dr. Tsharniak of shtetl Horodetz #general

Gene and Ellen Sucov <genellen@...>
 

I have located and begun to translate the testimony of Dr. Tsharniak from
the the shtetl of Horodetz, Kobrin district, Grodno gubernia. He mentions
25 Jews, 3 Poles and 2 Belarussians in his testimony. He also mention the
following places: Brzesc, Pinsk, Horodetz, Drohiczyn, Kobryn, Gruszowa,
Janow and Barania Gora.
I have translated the short biography of Dr. Tsharniak.
If there is any interest in receiving this biography please contact me
privately by email.
Gene Sucov
Searching:
SUCHOWCZYCKI >from Horodetz (Kobrin district), Bialystok, Brest, Pruzhany
ERINGER >from Bialystok; SHLAFMITZ >from Zarebi-Koscielne, Malkinia;
LITEWKA >from Zarebi-Koscielne; LIST >from Malkinia.


Forename Isser #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

I have come across a man whose forename is Isser. Is this a variation of
Israel (Yisrael) or Isaac (Yitshak)?
I haven't seen it before.

Harold Pollins

pollins@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Forename Isser #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

I have come across a man whose forename is Isser. Is this a variation of
Israel (Yisrael) or Isaac (Yitshak)?
I haven't seen it before.

Harold Pollins

pollins@...


please help with dating a photo #general

Theo Travis <travis@...>
 

I have a photo of my great-grandparents and three of their children taken
in Bukovina and I am trying to get an idea of approximately when it would
have been taken (the decade would do). The girls are wearing knee length
dresses. One is a short sleeved V-neck, the other long sleeved with a boat
neck and a rose pattern at the neck and hem. They both have ear-length bobs
parted on the side. The boy, who looks about 12 or 13, has a white shirt
with a very thin collar, a short single breasted jacket with thin lapels
and trousers that are either very short or are tucked into his ankle boots.
He also has a very short crew cut. I saw a photo in Theo Richmond's book
Konin of his family in Europe and a boy of a similar age had the same
haircut, so I would guess it must have been the fashion at one time. The
parents are dressed as traditional pious Jews (long black skirt/head scarf;
beard/black suit/yarmulke).

Thanks.

Madelyn Travis
travis@...


Tranlations #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am seeking the translation for four Polish words indicating
professions:

naucz.

kamaszn.

zarz fabr.

kup.

Can you help?

Daniel Kazez / Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Ohio
kazez@...://www.cello.org/cnc/jewish.htm

researching:
Ashkenazic--OBERMAN, TALMAN, ENGLANDER, LISS, KEIFER
Sephardic--KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, FRESKO