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Seeking: PHILLIPS, Poland to UK, 1870s #general

leonard@...
 

I am seeking information on my Great Grandparents who were married in Suwalki
Synagogue on 1 May 1866. Their surname in the UK was PHILLIPS but I am not
sure if they were called that in Russian Poland. Their forenames were Bernet
and Rachel (nee Markiss or Marcus). I have no further information as to their
town of origin.

Unfortunately, Landsmen journal does not appear to record this marriage.

They travelled to London, UK in the 1870s and then on to Glasgow, Scotland
where the records are good. Bernet was born in 1846 (Father Benjamen) and
Rachel in 1851 (Father Cecil).

Any information including any knowledge of any brothers/sisters would be
appreciated.

Leonard Phillips


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: PHILLIPS, Poland to UK, 1870s #general

leonard@...
 

I am seeking information on my Great Grandparents who were married in Suwalki
Synagogue on 1 May 1866. Their surname in the UK was PHILLIPS but I am not
sure if they were called that in Russian Poland. Their forenames were Bernet
and Rachel (nee Markiss or Marcus). I have no further information as to their
town of origin.

Unfortunately, Landsmen journal does not appear to record this marriage.

They travelled to London, UK in the 1870s and then on to Glasgow, Scotland
where the records are good. Bernet was born in 1846 (Father Benjamen) and
Rachel in 1851 (Father Cecil).

Any information including any knowledge of any brothers/sisters would be
appreciated.

Leonard Phillips


Searching: Dora GROSS, Manchester, England #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

A woman who called herself Dora Goldstone came to the United States on the
S.S. Commonwealth sailing >from Liverpool, England and arrived at the
port of Boston on September 18, 1903.

She was travelling with my grandparents and their children. I know that
there was no such person as "Dora Goldstone".

I have since learned that her real name was "Dora Gross", and that she was a
friend of my grandmother's. According to the ship's manifest, she was 14
years old, and her last place of residence was Manchester.

Does anyone recognize who this person was?

Saul Goldstone


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Dora GROSS, Manchester, England #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

A woman who called herself Dora Goldstone came to the United States on the
S.S. Commonwealth sailing >from Liverpool, England and arrived at the
port of Boston on September 18, 1903.

She was travelling with my grandparents and their children. I know that
there was no such person as "Dora Goldstone".

I have since learned that her real name was "Dora Gross", and that she was a
friend of my grandmother's. According to the ship's manifest, she was 14
years old, and her last place of residence was Manchester.

Does anyone recognize who this person was?

Saul Goldstone


Re: Where is Soslak (Szil) in the Carpathian Mountains? #general

armata@...
 

In article <99c12c63.36a3eed9@...>, JULFALK@... writes
I am looking for a town in the Carpathian mountain region,formerly in Hungary
known as Soslak but now called Szil. It is most likely in the Ukraine at
present. I have not been able to locate it on any of my maps. Anyone out there
who may know where it is?
Julian Falk

If you look at the corner where Poland, Slovakia, and Ukraine come
together, Soslak, now Sil, is located in Ukraine, just east of the
Slovak border, just south of the Polish border. It's about 5 miles
NNE of Velyky Bereznyj in Ukraine, just north of where the Uz river
makes its bend to the east. It's almost due east of Snina in Slovakia.

Joe Armata
armata@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Soslak (Szil) in the Carpathian Mountains? #general

armata@...
 

In article <99c12c63.36a3eed9@...>, JULFALK@... writes
I am looking for a town in the Carpathian mountain region,formerly in Hungary
known as Soslak but now called Szil. It is most likely in the Ukraine at
present. I have not been able to locate it on any of my maps. Anyone out there
who may know where it is?
Julian Falk

If you look at the corner where Poland, Slovakia, and Ukraine come
together, Soslak, now Sil, is located in Ukraine, just east of the
Slovak border, just south of the Polish border. It's about 5 miles
NNE of Velyky Bereznyj in Ukraine, just north of where the Uz river
makes its bend to the east. It's almost due east of Snina in Slovakia.

Joe Armata
armata@...


Re: Rovna, Russia #general

MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
 

On Jan. 20, 1999 you wrote:
<< Need some help with some information that I just received on an SS-5 Social
Security application. The applicant, who emigrated to the US in 1900 at age 4,
put down Rovna, Russia as his birthplace. >>

Hi Mark,

Aah! Those mispronunciations again and again! ! !
Very often emigrating Jews didn't state the exact province of the Russian
Empire they came from. They just put "Russia".
The town name you are looking for is "Rovno", Ukraine or, in Ukrainian
pronunciation, - "Rivne". In English that means "flat, plain surface"
Look in the shtetlseeker and you will see about four of them in Ukraine.
That's another problem but I guess I have a pretty good idea which one is your
applicant's place.
There was one and only one significant Rovno at the beginning of the century in
the Ukraine with a large Jewish population.
But to check where it is exactly located I shall visit our central library
which has an old Russian encyclopedia published in 1891-1905 by Brockgause and
Ephron in Saint Petersburg. But it's too far >from me to go.
Check the big libraries in your area for this encyclopedia and if they have it,
look under the Russian letter "R" (it's like English "P")
I also remember reading a Russian book by Mr. Medvedev "Eto bylo pod Rovno"
(it's a Russian title expessed in Latin letters) about Russian guerrilla
actions against the Germans in WW2 near that town.
Mark Grekin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rovna, Russia #general

MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
 

On Jan. 20, 1999 you wrote:
<< Need some help with some information that I just received on an SS-5 Social
Security application. The applicant, who emigrated to the US in 1900 at age 4,
put down Rovna, Russia as his birthplace. >>

Hi Mark,

Aah! Those mispronunciations again and again! ! !
Very often emigrating Jews didn't state the exact province of the Russian
Empire they came from. They just put "Russia".
The town name you are looking for is "Rovno", Ukraine or, in Ukrainian
pronunciation, - "Rivne". In English that means "flat, plain surface"
Look in the shtetlseeker and you will see about four of them in Ukraine.
That's another problem but I guess I have a pretty good idea which one is your
applicant's place.
There was one and only one significant Rovno at the beginning of the century in
the Ukraine with a large Jewish population.
But to check where it is exactly located I shall visit our central library
which has an old Russian encyclopedia published in 1891-1905 by Brockgause and
Ephron in Saint Petersburg. But it's too far >from me to go.
Check the big libraries in your area for this encyclopedia and if they have it,
look under the Russian letter "R" (it's like English "P")
I also remember reading a Russian book by Mr. Medvedev "Eto bylo pod Rovno"
(it's a Russian title expessed in Latin letters) about Russian guerrilla
actions against the Germans in WW2 near that town.
Mark Grekin


Israel Phone book has English version #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Subject: Israel Phone Book
From: Israel Lenzner
I have been told that there are listed in the ISRAELI PHONE BOOKS
49 LENTZNER and 46 KATZEL.....Is there someone or some organization, who
for a fee,
would provide me with English translations of each of their addresses,phone
numbers,etc????
The Israeli phone books are available in English as well as Hebrew, so it
should be quite easy for you to get someone in Israel to send you
photocopies of the pages you need, at least >from the phone books for
Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel Phone book has English version #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Subject: Israel Phone Book
From: Israel Lenzner
I have been told that there are listed in the ISRAELI PHONE BOOKS
49 LENTZNER and 46 KATZEL.....Is there someone or some organization, who
for a fee,
would provide me with English translations of each of their addresses,phone
numbers,etc????
The Israeli phone books are available in English as well as Hebrew, so it
should be quite easy for you to get someone in Israel to send you
photocopies of the pages you need, at least >from the phone books for
Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@...


Names Vitshe, Manusya #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

Is Vitshe a Yiddish name? Is it a diminutive? My aunt Rita's name in the
Ukraine was Vitshe, as was her grandmother's. Or is it Russian, perhaps
short for Viktoriya, the way Vitya is the diminutive of Viktor?

What about names like Nusya, Manusya, Mousia? These sound Russian to me.
Are they also diminutives, and if so of what longer names? What gender
would they be?

Thanks,

Alan Shuchat
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Names Vitshe, Manusya #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

Is Vitshe a Yiddish name? Is it a diminutive? My aunt Rita's name in the
Ukraine was Vitshe, as was her grandmother's. Or is it Russian, perhaps
short for Viktoriya, the way Vitya is the diminutive of Viktor?

What about names like Nusya, Manusya, Mousia? These sound Russian to me.
Are they also diminutives, and if so of what longer names? What gender
would they be?

Thanks,

Alan Shuchat
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

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Searching: LEVY Twin Girls, b. ca 1949, NYC #general

Alan K'necht <alan@...>
 

I am searching for lost cousins.

They are twin girls born approx. 1949 in or around New York City.

Their father's nane was David Harris (Harry/Hersh) LEVY born approx.
1907 in London England and died in the 50's somewhere in the USA.

Grandfather's name John (Jack) Levy (orginally KNECHT).

One of the twins name may be something similar to Ira or Iris and may
have married a WASSERMAN. Last contact (by another cousins) was more
than 30 years ago while she was working for the Holiday Inn some where
in Folorida.

For more information on the family connection, please see the family
history web site http://www.knecht.on.ca/history

Anyone having information on the above please contact me by email.

Alan Knecht


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: LEVY Twin Girls, b. ca 1949, NYC #general

Alan K'necht <alan@...>
 

I am searching for lost cousins.

They are twin girls born approx. 1949 in or around New York City.

Their father's nane was David Harris (Harry/Hersh) LEVY born approx.
1907 in London England and died in the 50's somewhere in the USA.

Grandfather's name John (Jack) Levy (orginally KNECHT).

One of the twins name may be something similar to Ira or Iris and may
have married a WASSERMAN. Last contact (by another cousins) was more
than 30 years ago while she was working for the Holiday Inn some where
in Folorida.

For more information on the family connection, please see the family
history web site http://www.knecht.on.ca/history

Anyone having information on the above please contact me by email.

Alan Knecht


Book in Hebrew: Bat-Ami Yogev Cherzlia #general

Cheryl Hoover <crhoover@...>
 

I just received a picture of my great great grandmother >from the book
above. This book was published in Israel and written in Hebrew. The
person that sent me this picture said the title translates to They Were
Ordinary People. My question is this: does anyone know if this book is
available in either Hebrew or English? I would prefer the English
version if it is available. I know this may be a long shot as this is
suppose to be an old book, however, I am hoping. Thank you for your
time.
Sincerely,
Cheryl Hoover


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Book in Hebrew: Bat-Ami Yogev Cherzlia #general

Cheryl Hoover <crhoover@...>
 

I just received a picture of my great great grandmother >from the book
above. This book was published in Israel and written in Hebrew. The
person that sent me this picture said the title translates to They Were
Ordinary People. My question is this: does anyone know if this book is
available in either Hebrew or English? I would prefer the English
version if it is available. I know this may be a long shot as this is
suppose to be an old book, however, I am hoping. Thank you for your
time.
Sincerely,
Cheryl Hoover


What's in a name... #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

And people think this is easy? That there is a simple name chart? HA
Things were just a lot looser then.
As Shelly said...and not just names.

My father hated his oldest brother. When he filled in my gm's application
of naturalization, he left Harry off entirely. If I hadn't had know he had
an older brother, I might have thought there were only four in the family.
This also makes you wonder what else he did? He shows my gps married
4/15/1889. Harry was born in 1889. Are the dates right? Did my grandmother
make him leave Harry off because he was born out of wedlock? Who knows?

The papers also say my gf (deceased by that point) had arrived here in
1893. The NYS Census in 1905 says he arrive in 1891.

Sometimes I feel like I'm dealing with mercury. But ain't that half the
frustrating fun?

Oh, just to restore hope. I found had gathered unto me the data on every
NADW/VORN/E/Y born in Ukraine in the world. Only 4 families, mine being
one, one in Brazil, one other (which had only 4 members, 2 already gone).
All other Nadwornys seem to be >from Poland. But I kept connecting the dots,
and waiting for those cert, and the last where there were no living
members. I kept searching and sending for certificates. AND I managed to
incontroveribly match up two of them as having the same ggf/ggm (the one in
Brazil and the 4 member one). The 2 survivors of the 4-member family
thought they were the only ones in the world because their father told them
that that is what their grandfather said. Might be what he believed but it
was not the truth.

So, if I managed to find success with my needle-in-a-haystack family, keep
heart.


Anita Citron
anitac1@...
Flushing (NYC), New York
Searching NADWORNY, SILVER (Odessa) MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What's in a name... #general

Anita Citron <anitac1@...>
 

And people think this is easy? That there is a simple name chart? HA
Things were just a lot looser then.
As Shelly said...and not just names.

My father hated his oldest brother. When he filled in my gm's application
of naturalization, he left Harry off entirely. If I hadn't had know he had
an older brother, I might have thought there were only four in the family.
This also makes you wonder what else he did? He shows my gps married
4/15/1889. Harry was born in 1889. Are the dates right? Did my grandmother
make him leave Harry off because he was born out of wedlock? Who knows?

The papers also say my gf (deceased by that point) had arrived here in
1893. The NYS Census in 1905 says he arrive in 1891.

Sometimes I feel like I'm dealing with mercury. But ain't that half the
frustrating fun?

Oh, just to restore hope. I found had gathered unto me the data on every
NADW/VORN/E/Y born in Ukraine in the world. Only 4 families, mine being
one, one in Brazil, one other (which had only 4 members, 2 already gone).
All other Nadwornys seem to be >from Poland. But I kept connecting the dots,
and waiting for those cert, and the last where there were no living
members. I kept searching and sending for certificates. AND I managed to
incontroveribly match up two of them as having the same ggf/ggm (the one in
Brazil and the 4 member one). The 2 survivors of the 4-member family
thought they were the only ones in the world because their father told them
that that is what their grandfather said. Might be what he believed but it
was not the truth.

So, if I managed to find success with my needle-in-a-haystack family, keep
heart.


Anita Citron
anitac1@...
Flushing (NYC), New York
Searching NADWORNY, SILVER (Odessa) MEDNIK/WILDMAN (Berdichev)


Searching: Susan TROBE (TRAUB/E), b. Brazil, Israel in 60s #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners,

Trying to contact lost cousin by the name of Susan TROBE or TRAUB or
TRAUBE.

Born Brazil - father worked for Jewish Agency - lived in Kfar
Shemaryahu in late 60's.

Would now be about 45 - 50.

Please contact at address below.
With best regards

David L. Frey
Victoria - Australia

Researching - Frey, Frei,
Gildensohn, Pitkin, Beshincovichi, Steinhaus and Walsh (yes, I know!)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Susan TROBE (TRAUB/E), b. Brazil, Israel in 60s #general

David Frey <dfrey@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners,

Trying to contact lost cousin by the name of Susan TROBE or TRAUB or
TRAUBE.

Born Brazil - father worked for Jewish Agency - lived in Kfar
Shemaryahu in late 60's.

Would now be about 45 - 50.

Please contact at address below.
With best regards

David L. Frey
Victoria - Australia

Researching - Frey, Frei,
Gildensohn, Pitkin, Beshincovichi, Steinhaus and Walsh (yes, I know!)