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Re: The Czar's army #belarus

Nick Landau <nick@...>
 

This is very interesting because my greatgrandfather came to England forty
years earlier for similar reasons.

Up to recently I was under the impression that he arrived with his wife at
the age of 18 >from Russia.

Having looked at his naturalisation application I now realise that he
arrived with a family of four at the age of 28. I could imagine a young
single person just escaping but I found it more difficult to imagine a
married couple with four children just spirited into the the night.

Nick
Judith Romney Wegner wrote:

How would you assess the likelihood that a 26-year-old would be drafted
in 1903, especially if he came >from a larger town or city (supposedly
Minsk)? Let's assume that he was single (which is odd). What was the age
cohort that was drafted? Would his single status have stacked the deck
against him?
I know you said not to speculate, but this may be highly relevant so I
can't help wondering:

Is it possible that Russia's far eastern foreign policy (namely, the
eastward expansion that led to the Russo-Japanese war in 1904) had induced
the Czar to step up the draft by enlarging the age parameters and taking
married men? That is quite normal in times of "cold war."
snip


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Czar's army #general

Nick Landau <nick@...>
 

This is very interesting because my greatgrandfather came to England forty
years earlier for similar reasons.

Up to recently I was under the impression that he arrived with his wife at
the age of 18 >from Russia.

Having looked at his naturalisation application I now realise that he
arrived with a family of four at the age of 28. I could imagine a young
single person just escaping but I found it more difficult to imagine a
married couple with four children just spirited into the the night.

Nick
Judith Romney Wegner wrote:

How would you assess the likelihood that a 26-year-old would be drafted
in 1903, especially if he came >from a larger town or city (supposedly
Minsk)? Let's assume that he was single (which is odd). What was the age
cohort that was drafted? Would his single status have stacked the deck
against him?
I know you said not to speculate, but this may be highly relevant so I
can't help wondering:

Is it possible that Russia's far eastern foreign policy (namely, the
eastward expansion that led to the Russo-Japanese war in 1904) had induced
the Czar to step up the draft by enlarging the age parameters and taking
married men? That is quite normal in times of "cold war."
snip


Los Angeles--Libraries?? #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I will be visiting Los Angeles soon. What library should I visit to
examine telephone books and city directories for L.A. >from the 1920's
to 1970s? What library would be best for California records in this
time period?

Daniel Kazez
kazez@wittenberg.edu
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/WebPage.html

researching:
Ashkenazic--OBERMAN, TALMAN, ENGLANDER, LISS, KEIFER
Sephardic--KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, FRESKO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Los Angeles--Libraries?? #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I will be visiting Los Angeles soon. What library should I visit to
examine telephone books and city directories for L.A. >from the 1920's
to 1970s? What library would be best for California records in this
time period?

Daniel Kazez
kazez@wittenberg.edu
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/WebPage.html

researching:
Ashkenazic--OBERMAN, TALMAN, ENGLANDER, LISS, KEIFER
Sephardic--KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, FRESKO


Norma GLAD - e-mail address? #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello

Can you tell me if Norma Glad changed her E-Mail address?
Her letter bounced and it's the last address I have for her.
Thank you
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Norma GLAD - e-mail address? #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello

Can you tell me if Norma Glad changed her E-Mail address?
Her letter bounced and it's the last address I have for her.
Thank you
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com


King David #general

Barry Laden <barryladen@...>
 

Hi Matthew,

I cannot really believe anyone can trace their family to King David - it
is very fanciful to suggest that anyone really can. Bear in mind that King
David lived 3000 years ago. Bear in mind also that the Jewish people kept
vast genealogical histories dating back to the time of the Patriarchs. But
all these genealogies were lost in Babylonian times. Tradition has it that
vast teams of pack animals carried scrolls of family histories!
We Jews have always thought it impossible for Jesus to trace his family in
the New Testament back to King David, and that period was only 1000 years -
how can any of us seriously trace a history back 3000! I agree with the
writer who suggests we are all descendents of King David. If anyone wishes
to start calling me King Barry, feel free!!

Best wishes,

Barry Laden, London, England
barryladen@mailcity.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen King David #general

Barry Laden <barryladen@...>
 

Hi Matthew,

I cannot really believe anyone can trace their family to King David - it
is very fanciful to suggest that anyone really can. Bear in mind that King
David lived 3000 years ago. Bear in mind also that the Jewish people kept
vast genealogical histories dating back to the time of the Patriarchs. But
all these genealogies were lost in Babylonian times. Tradition has it that
vast teams of pack animals carried scrolls of family histories!
We Jews have always thought it impossible for Jesus to trace his family in
the New Testament back to King David, and that period was only 1000 years -
how can any of us seriously trace a history back 3000! I agree with the
writer who suggests we are all descendents of King David. If anyone wishes
to start calling me King Barry, feel free!!

Best wishes,

Barry Laden, London, England
barryladen@mailcity.com


AHEA conference #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

I would like to bring everyone's attention (and especially people living in
University Heights and Beachwood, Ohio) that John Carroll University will be
hosting the 24th Annual International Conference of the American Hungarian
Educator's Association >from April 8th-11th.

There will be a few speeches on subjects related to the Holocaust including
a talk by Dr. Ruth Biro of Duquesne University who will speak on "Literature
and Vignettes Concerning Women Who Were Children and Young Adults in World
War II in Hungary" and Dr. Kathleen De Rose also >from Duqesne whose topic
will be "Women Leaders During the Holocaust in Hungary"

For further information about the conference see their website:
http://www.magyar.org/ahea/
or E-mail: mpereszlenyi@jcu.edu Tel.: 216-397-4723 FAX: 216-397-4256


Please visit our website at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/


Hungary SIG #Hungary AHEA conference #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

I would like to bring everyone's attention (and especially people living in
University Heights and Beachwood, Ohio) that John Carroll University will be
hosting the 24th Annual International Conference of the American Hungarian
Educator's Association >from April 8th-11th.

There will be a few speeches on subjects related to the Holocaust including
a talk by Dr. Ruth Biro of Duquesne University who will speak on "Literature
and Vignettes Concerning Women Who Were Children and Young Adults in World
War II in Hungary" and Dr. Kathleen De Rose also >from Duqesne whose topic
will be "Women Leaders During the Holocaust in Hungary"

For further information about the conference see their website:
http://www.magyar.org/ahea/
or E-mail: mpereszlenyi@jcu.edu Tel.: 216-397-4723 FAX: 216-397-4256


Please visit our website at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Hungary/


Status of RAGAS ? #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

Does anyone know if RAGAS is still doing research for individuals? Has
anyone been able to contact them and get a meaningful exchange going? I
e-mailed them a couple of times with no response. I know they put out a
periodical, but are they set up to handle individual accounts? How do
you contact them in a way that they answer?

Howard
Howard M. Rensin,
Glenwood,MD
mailto:hrensin@erols.com
Searching: RENSIN,RENZIN,KALLET,KALETZKY,KLIAZKO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Status of RAGAS ? #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

Does anyone know if RAGAS is still doing research for individuals? Has
anyone been able to contact them and get a meaningful exchange going? I
e-mailed them a couple of times with no response. I know they put out a
periodical, but are they set up to handle individual accounts? How do
you contact them in a way that they answer?

Howard
Howard M. Rensin,
Glenwood,MD
mailto:hrensin@erols.com
Searching: RENSIN,RENZIN,KALLET,KALETZKY,KLIAZKO


Re: Tardos #hungary

Patricia J. Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

When I was searching for Gyulaj the only one I could find was in Western
Hungary. I knew this could not be the right place because the information I
had said NE Hungary. My husband called the Hungarian consulate in
Washington, DC. They told him to call back in ten minutes. When he did they
said, yes, there was a town that once was called Gyulaj in that area, but
it was now Nyirgyulaj. That's where we found the records.

Recently I was having trouble finding a village of Gebe on a current day
map. Tom Spiro told me he thought it was now Nyirkata >from the roads on an
old map.

Hopefully, you can discover something like this for you.

Pat


Re: Where's Nagy Madder? #hungary

Barbara Kaufman <BABSK@...>
 

According to Magyar Nevek, Nagymegyer(with an e) is now Velky Meder,
Nagymagyar(with an a) is now Zlate Klasy - also in Slovakia. Nagymad is
now Mad. Nagymadarasz is now Madaras, Romania.
Barbara Kaufman


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Tardos #hungary

Patricia J. Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

When I was searching for Gyulaj the only one I could find was in Western
Hungary. I knew this could not be the right place because the information I
had said NE Hungary. My husband called the Hungarian consulate in
Washington, DC. They told him to call back in ten minutes. When he did they
said, yes, there was a town that once was called Gyulaj in that area, but
it was now Nyirgyulaj. That's where we found the records.

Recently I was having trouble finding a village of Gebe on a current day
map. Tom Spiro told me he thought it was now Nyirkata >from the roads on an
old map.

Hopefully, you can discover something like this for you.

Pat


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Where's Nagy Madder? #hungary

Barbara Kaufman <BABSK@...>
 

According to Magyar Nevek, Nagymegyer(with an e) is now Velky Meder,
Nagymagyar(with an a) is now Zlate Klasy - also in Slovakia. Nagymad is
now Mad. Nagymadarasz is now Madaras, Romania.
Barbara Kaufman


Searching for Zwiebacks #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwiebac@...>
 

My fathers family came >from Zala and maybe Baranya Counties. I have not
been able to locate my grandfathers birthplace (born 1853) or his family
The family name is fairly uncommon and is the same as the biscuit available
at many supermarkets, thereby inviting the usual question "Are you related
to the ....?" .
As one effort to trace the source(s?) of the family name, I have posted a
web site "version 1.0", listing what I have collected on the ZWIEBACK family
name.
I invite those interested to view what I have at
http://home1.gte.net/zwiebac/ .
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching for Zwiebacks #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwiebac@...>
 

My fathers family came >from Zala and maybe Baranya Counties. I have not
been able to locate my grandfathers birthplace (born 1853) or his family
The family name is fairly uncommon and is the same as the biscuit available
at many supermarkets, thereby inviting the usual question "Are you related
to the ....?" .
As one effort to trace the source(s?) of the family name, I have posted a
web site "version 1.0", listing what I have collected on the ZWIEBACK family
name.
I invite those interested to view what I have at
http://home1.gte.net/zwiebac/ .
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA


Jechiel #hungary

Georg Gaugusch <e9526666@...>
 

Dear group,

has anyone an idea in which ways the name Jechiel could be modernized? I
found on a gravestone (1836) of Michael Loeb Schlesinger in Vienna, his
father as "Jechiel". M.L. came >from Preszburg, but nobody there ever had
the name Jechiel Schlesinger, so I think this is just the hebrew and
religious version, his "all day"-name must be different. Who would a man,
who was teached in religious and skolary things, translate, this name. Is
there any useful german or hungarian version of "Jechiel"?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Georg Gaugusch, Vienna (Austria), e9526666@student.tuwien.ac.at


Hungary SIG #Hungary Jechiel #hungary

Georg Gaugusch <e9526666@...>
 

Dear group,

has anyone an idea in which ways the name Jechiel could be modernized? I
found on a gravestone (1836) of Michael Loeb Schlesinger in Vienna, his
father as "Jechiel". M.L. came >from Preszburg, but nobody there ever had
the name Jechiel Schlesinger, so I think this is just the hebrew and
religious version, his "all day"-name must be different. Who would a man,
who was teached in religious and skolary things, translate, this name. Is
there any useful german or hungarian version of "Jechiel"?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Georg Gaugusch, Vienna (Austria), e9526666@student.tuwien.ac.at