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JGSGreater Orlando Workshop #general

PTJAY@...
 

The 8th Annual Genealogical Workshop sponsored by the JGS of Greater
Orlando will be held Sunday, February 7 >from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. at the
Hebrew Day School, All Purpose Room, on the JCC Campus, Maitland, FL.

Theme of the workshop is "Back to the Basics." Coordinated by Gladys
Friedman Paulin and Robert W. Marlin, noted professional genealogist, the
program will also feature presentation by JGSGO members Sheila Reback, Sim
Seckbach and Marshall Frenkel. Topics to be presented include: Introduction
to Genealogy, Vital Records Including City Directories, All Those Names -
History and Practices, Census Records and How to Access Them, Computers and
the Internet, Family Matters - including Oral Histories, and JGSGO
Membership.
Registration fee is $20.00 (includes lunch). For further information
contact the coordinators at:
RobMarlin@aol.com or Gp21603@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu.
Jay Schleichkorn, President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGreater Orlando Workshop #general

PTJAY@...
 

The 8th Annual Genealogical Workshop sponsored by the JGS of Greater
Orlando will be held Sunday, February 7 >from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. at the
Hebrew Day School, All Purpose Room, on the JCC Campus, Maitland, FL.

Theme of the workshop is "Back to the Basics." Coordinated by Gladys
Friedman Paulin and Robert W. Marlin, noted professional genealogist, the
program will also feature presentation by JGSGO members Sheila Reback, Sim
Seckbach and Marshall Frenkel. Topics to be presented include: Introduction
to Genealogy, Vital Records Including City Directories, All Those Names -
History and Practices, Census Records and How to Access Them, Computers and
the Internet, Family Matters - including Oral Histories, and JGSGO
Membership.
Registration fee is $20.00 (includes lunch). For further information
contact the coordinators at:
RobMarlin@aol.com or Gp21603@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu.
Jay Schleichkorn, President


Re: A terminological point #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

"Given name" is the same as "forename" and "first name". What is wrong
with the latter two is that they do not convey anything to many people of
Central- and Eastern-European origin, who will often tell their names in an
order which is the reverse of that normal in the West, so that (in the case
of my name) one might be introduced as Goodman Stan, even in informal
contexts. It used to drive me up the wall, especially when both names would
have been acceptable as given names: e.g. I have a friend whose name is
Shlomo David -- I leave it to the gentle reader to identify which is the
family name, and I do not know why parents do this to a defenceless baby.

I have even been asked by people of such a background what "first" and
"last" mean in connection with names.

The terms "given name" and "surname" (or "family name") are much to be
preferred over terms which prejudge the order in which the names are said
or written, unless you want to limit yourself to Western European and
American contexts.

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:10:56, pollins@globalnet.co.uk (Harold Pollins)
'llowed:

-> Since joining this list I observe the use of the word 'given' to refer
-> to forenames. This was a new usage to me and I wondered about it.

Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

http://www.hashkedim.com

Mail sent to "sheol@hashkedim.com" will not be read. Please replace "sheol"
with "styx", or communicate with me through the Website mentioned just
above. Thank you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A terminological point #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

"Given name" is the same as "forename" and "first name". What is wrong
with the latter two is that they do not convey anything to many people of
Central- and Eastern-European origin, who will often tell their names in an
order which is the reverse of that normal in the West, so that (in the case
of my name) one might be introduced as Goodman Stan, even in informal
contexts. It used to drive me up the wall, especially when both names would
have been acceptable as given names: e.g. I have a friend whose name is
Shlomo David -- I leave it to the gentle reader to identify which is the
family name, and I do not know why parents do this to a defenceless baby.

I have even been asked by people of such a background what "first" and
"last" mean in connection with names.

The terms "given name" and "surname" (or "family name") are much to be
preferred over terms which prejudge the order in which the names are said
or written, unless you want to limit yourself to Western European and
American contexts.

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:10:56, pollins@globalnet.co.uk (Harold Pollins)
'llowed:

-> Since joining this list I observe the use of the word 'given' to refer
-> to forenames. This was a new usage to me and I wondered about it.

Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

http://www.hashkedim.com

Mail sent to "sheol@hashkedim.com" will not be read. Please replace "sheol"
with "styx", or communicate with me through the Website mentioned just
above. Thank you.


Re: Monthly Meeting of JGSGreater Orlando #general

PTJAY@...
 

JGSGreater Orlando - notice of the February meeting: Tuesday, February 9,
1999 in the Senior Lounge, JCC, Maitland, FL., at 7:30 p.m.
Program: "Jews With A Southern Accent...." presented by Arthur "Bud"
Whitehill, member of the JOGS since 1991. He will emphasize the role and
contributions made by individual and Jewwsh families in the history of the
South.
Meeting open to members and guests. Refreshments will be served. For
membership information: Marshall Frenkel, (407) 644-7311 or e-mail:
Mfrenkel@sprintmail.com
"You all come...."
Jay Schleichkorn, President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Monthly Meeting of JGSGreater Orlando #general

PTJAY@...
 

JGSGreater Orlando - notice of the February meeting: Tuesday, February 9,
1999 in the Senior Lounge, JCC, Maitland, FL., at 7:30 p.m.
Program: "Jews With A Southern Accent...." presented by Arthur "Bud"
Whitehill, member of the JOGS since 1991. He will emphasize the role and
contributions made by individual and Jewwsh families in the history of the
South.
Meeting open to members and guests. Refreshments will be served. For
membership information: Marshall Frenkel, (407) 644-7311 or e-mail:
Mfrenkel@sprintmail.com
"You all come...."
Jay Schleichkorn, President


Re: Tradition of naming in memory of opposite sex? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 99-02-03 11:42:47 EST, JGLois@AOL.COM writes:

<< . . . . The grandfather of this newly found branch was named Zussel and
one of the female siblings in my descendancy (about the same age) was named
Zissel.

I know the origins of these names (thanks to the many discussions
here in previous threads) but I don't recall the topic of male and female
naming for the same person. BTW, these families were not engaged
in scholarly pursuits (at that time) and the names they carried were
the Yiddish names they used throughout their lives. There is no evidence
of an additional Hebrew name for either the man or woman. >>

"Zussel" and Zisel" are variant spellings of the same name, which means
"sweet." It was a common Jewish name in Eastern Europe and "passed" as a
"Hebrew" name in the synagogue. Reb Zissel was a highly respected Hassidic
Master. Someone just suggested that it is associated in men with Meshullam
and with Samuel. Very likely.

For women even more than for men, a Yiddish name might serve for
everything, including the few occasions where a "Hebrew" name was required.
Could both have been named after the same person? Possibly. If one had
chosen the name Chayim for a boy and it turned out to be a girl, she might
be called Chaya. A Hindel might be called after a Tzvi or Naftali. Often?
I don't know. But Ziessel is especiallproblematic. The temmptation to
call one's baby "Sweetie" is quite great and the name Ziessel may have been
given to the youngest daughter just because there was no-one else by then
who needed a child to be "called after" him/her.

I'd say the Ziessel/Zuessel conjunction is not in itself evidence that the
two families are related. You'd need something more convincing.

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Tradition of naming in memory of opposite sex? #general

Simon Barak
 

JGLois@aol.com wrote: I am wondering what are the probabilities that a male
and a female descendant could both be named for the same ancestor?

My great aunt Sheive (actually Elisheva) was named after her
gretgrandfather Shie (actually Yesha-ayahu) while other cousins of her were
named Shie directly. Since she was born shortly after his death, and
wishing to keep his memory alive, the fact that she was a girl seemed to be
negligent in the eyes of her parents.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Tradition of naming in memory of opposite sex? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 99-02-03 11:42:47 EST, JGLois@AOL.COM writes:

<< . . . . The grandfather of this newly found branch was named Zussel and
one of the female siblings in my descendancy (about the same age) was named
Zissel.

I know the origins of these names (thanks to the many discussions
here in previous threads) but I don't recall the topic of male and female
naming for the same person. BTW, these families were not engaged
in scholarly pursuits (at that time) and the names they carried were
the Yiddish names they used throughout their lives. There is no evidence
of an additional Hebrew name for either the man or woman. >>

"Zussel" and Zisel" are variant spellings of the same name, which means
"sweet." It was a common Jewish name in Eastern Europe and "passed" as a
"Hebrew" name in the synagogue. Reb Zissel was a highly respected Hassidic
Master. Someone just suggested that it is associated in men with Meshullam
and with Samuel. Very likely.

For women even more than for men, a Yiddish name might serve for
everything, including the few occasions where a "Hebrew" name was required.
Could both have been named after the same person? Possibly. If one had
chosen the name Chayim for a boy and it turned out to be a girl, she might
be called Chaya. A Hindel might be called after a Tzvi or Naftali. Often?
I don't know. But Ziessel is especiallproblematic. The temmptation to
call one's baby "Sweetie" is quite great and the name Ziessel may have been
given to the youngest daughter just because there was no-one else by then
who needed a child to be "called after" him/her.

I'd say the Ziessel/Zuessel conjunction is not in itself evidence that the
two families are related. You'd need something more convincing.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Tradition of naming in memory of opposite sex? #general

Simon Barak
 

JGLois@aol.com wrote: I am wondering what are the probabilities that a male
and a female descendant could both be named for the same ancestor?

My great aunt Sheive (actually Elisheva) was named after her
gretgrandfather Shie (actually Yesha-ayahu) while other cousins of her were
named Shie directly. Since she was born shortly after his death, and
wishing to keep his memory alive, the fact that she was a girl seemed to be
negligent in the eyes of her parents.


Radom families in Tel Aviv or Stuttgart #general

DAIZYDO0
 

I am trying to contact families who came >from Radom and settled in Tel Aviv
or Stuttgart. Does anyone know who I can write or phone who might be able
to point m e in the right direction?

Harriet Rosen
Long Island, N. Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Radom families in Tel Aviv or Stuttgart #general

DAIZYDO0
 

I am trying to contact families who came >from Radom and settled in Tel Aviv
or Stuttgart. Does anyone know who I can write or phone who might be able
to point m e in the right direction?

Harriet Rosen
Long Island, N. Y.


American Jewish Historicl Society Corrected information #lithuania

DBH12345
 

Subj: AJHS NY, correction
Date: 2/3/99 6:45:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: abigail@ajhs.org (Abigail H. Schoolman)
Sender: owner-amjhistory@shore.net
Reply-to: amjhistory@shore.net

Until further notice, the American Jewish Historical Society New York
administrative office (Michael Feldberg, Donna Leonard, Rachel Chodorov)
should be reached through its previous numbers: telephone 212-541-8786, fax
212-541-6073.

The new numbers should be working by the end of this week.
An announcement will be made when the new numbers go into effect.

For research questions and membership information please continue to
contact the Waltham office:

2 Thornton Road
Waltham, Ma. 02453
Phone: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
email: ajhs@ajhs.org

Abigail H. Schoolman, C.A.
Archivist and AMJHISTORY moderator
American Jewish Historical Society
2 Thornton Road
Waltham, MA 02453
Tel: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
Web: www.ajhs.org

The American Jewish Historical Society is an equal opportunity employer.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania American Jewish Historicl Society Corrected information #lithuania

DBH12345
 

Subj: AJHS NY, correction
Date: 2/3/99 6:45:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: abigail@ajhs.org (Abigail H. Schoolman)
Sender: owner-amjhistory@shore.net
Reply-to: amjhistory@shore.net

Until further notice, the American Jewish Historical Society New York
administrative office (Michael Feldberg, Donna Leonard, Rachel Chodorov)
should be reached through its previous numbers: telephone 212-541-8786, fax
212-541-6073.

The new numbers should be working by the end of this week.
An announcement will be made when the new numbers go into effect.

For research questions and membership information please continue to
contact the Waltham office:

2 Thornton Road
Waltham, Ma. 02453
Phone: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
email: ajhs@ajhs.org

Abigail H. Schoolman, C.A.
Archivist and AMJHISTORY moderator
American Jewish Historical Society
2 Thornton Road
Waltham, MA 02453
Tel: 781.891.8110
Fax: 781.899.9208
Web: www.ajhs.org

The American Jewish Historical Society is an equal opportunity employer.


Searching LEVITT of Radun #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

In a message dated 03-02-1999 12:53:45 AM Central Standard Time, LevittmG
writes:


My family, The Samuel Levitts Were in Radun which is Belarus today. But they
were Litvaks and these borders were different before W.W.II. Would any of
these records still be in the central archives for Lithuania today?
Melba Levitt Gold

LevittmG@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: Searching LEVITT of Radun #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

In a message dated 03-02-1999 12:53:45 AM Central Standard Time, LevittmG
writes:


My family, The Samuel Levitts Were in Radun which is Belarus today. But they
were Litvaks and these borders were different before W.W.II. Would any of
these records still be in the central archives for Lithuania today?
Melba Levitt Gold

LevittmG@aol.com


Jewish-Lithuanian Forum #lithuania

Curiousyl@...
 

For informational purposes only.
Please e-mail comments to curiousyl@aol.com

Sylvia

Jewish-Lithuanian Forum

LABAS:

We are ready to begin our Jewish-Lithuanian Forum as there are 21 members
of this list - the vast majority being Jewish-Lithuanian.

Perhaps we can begin by introducing ourselves. My name is Sandra Souveskas
and I am the web-master for Lithuanian Global Resources and 2nd Generation
Lithuanian/American.

As a beginning discussion topic: How about THE trial in Vilnius? I
recently posting an article intact received >from our Jewish-Lithuanian
correspondent in Vilnius.

Also, since I am not Jewish, I wish to turn this list over to a
Jewish-Lithuanian volunteer to moderate this discussion group. If you have
an interest in this position, please write: LithuanianGlobal@bigfoot.com

So, let's get the ball rolling! WELCOME !!!

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: Jewish-Lithuanian Forum #lithuania

Curiousyl@...
 

For informational purposes only.
Please e-mail comments to curiousyl@aol.com

Sylvia

Jewish-Lithuanian Forum

LABAS:

We are ready to begin our Jewish-Lithuanian Forum as there are 21 members
of this list - the vast majority being Jewish-Lithuanian.

Perhaps we can begin by introducing ourselves. My name is Sandra Souveskas
and I am the web-master for Lithuanian Global Resources and 2nd Generation
Lithuanian/American.

As a beginning discussion topic: How about THE trial in Vilnius? I
recently posting an article intact received >from our Jewish-Lithuanian
correspondent in Vilnius.

Also, since I am not Jewish, I wish to turn this list over to a
Jewish-Lithuanian volunteer to moderate this discussion group. If you have
an interest in this position, please write: LithuanianGlobal@bigfoot.com

So, let's get the ball rolling! WELCOME !!!

Sandra
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Re: Free family research ? #lithuania

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Thank you also for volunteering to input. I will be in touch privately with
your assignment.
I am also interested in volunteering to input. I am especially interested in
helping with info on the city of Vilna but, am willing to help where needed

Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Free family research ? #lithuania

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Thank you also for volunteering to input. I will be in touch privately with
your assignment.
I am also interested in volunteering to input. I am especially interested in
helping with info on the city of Vilna but, am willing to help where needed

Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com