Shalom,

Shalom,

Thanks to all who respoonded to my query about Jewish cremation. It made for
some very lively exchanges!

There seems to be much information that we are able to obtain about our
ancestors >from burial traditions such as gravestone inscriptions, things like
a person's Hebrew name, or a person's parents' Hebrew names. Maybe even
children's names, etc. But if one is cremated and the ashes not housed in any
sort of mausoleum and not accompanied by a plaque, the sort of information we
might otherwise obtain >from a gravestone is preserved and is simply not
available for future generations.

Gail Copeland
Thornhill (Toronto), ON Canada

Thanks to all who respoonded to my query about Jewish cremation. It made for
some very lively exchanges!

There seems to be much information that we are able to obtain about our
ancestors >from burial traditions such as gravestone inscriptions, things like
a person's Hebrew name, or a person's parents' Hebrew names. Maybe even
children's names, etc. But if one is cremated and the ashes not housed in any
sort of mausoleum and not accompanied by a plaque, the sort of information we
might otherwise obtain >from a gravestone is preserved and is simply not
available for future generations.

Gail Copeland
Thornhill (Toronto), ON Canada

My problem is that a family sent me a family tree that says that
Mikilaya, Ukraine is the shtetl.Our gggrandfather lived and stayed
behind when his three sons left for England.I have the book by Chester
C. Cohen, "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer".Mikilaya is not listed as a variant
and was curious what it might be.Is it Mikolayuv / Mikolayev or
Michaylovka? I hope someone can help me out there.Or could this be
somewhere else?
Searching: BARONBAUM, BEARY, BARON /Ukraine/ Liverpool/ USA.
Thanks, Anita Mendelsohn

My problem is that a family sent me a family tree that says that
Mikilaya, Ukraine is the shtetl.Our gggrandfather lived and stayed
behind when his three sons left for England.I have the book by Chester
C. Cohen, "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer".Mikilaya is not listed as a variant
and was curious what it might be.Is it Mikolayuv / Mikolayev or
Michaylovka? I hope someone can help me out there.Or could this be
somewhere else?
Searching: BARONBAUM, BEARY, BARON /Ukraine/ Liverpool/ USA.
Thanks, Anita Mendelsohn

It has been several years since I have sent money to the State
Archives in Poland via their bank address. On three occasions,
I purchased a regular (not International) Postal Money Order

from my local Post Office for about 85c each. I filled-in the

Account # of the State Archives and the name and address of the
bank (as recommended by the State Archives).

On all three occasions, the Postal Money Orders were cashed and
I received the metrical information.

I might also mention that I did communicate with the State Archives
in Polish with the help of Judith frazin's book and a Polish/English
dictionary. It shouldn't be implied however, that the same results
would not have been obtained if I communicated in English. I would
not hesitate to send the initial $30, but I would also not hesitate
to set a maximum amount to be spent on the research. In order to save
money, do not request more than one photocopy of each document. The
cost of photocopying in eastern Europe is very high.

I can't guarantee that it still works that way, but I have no reason
to believe that it doesn't.


Len Markowitz

It has been several years since I have sent money to the State
Archives in Poland via their bank address. On three occasions,
I purchased a regular (not International) Postal Money Order

from my local Post Office for about 85c each. I filled-in the

Account # of the State Archives and the name and address of the
bank (as recommended by the State Archives).

On all three occasions, the Postal Money Orders were cashed and
I received the metrical information.

I might also mention that I did communicate with the State Archives
in Polish with the help of Judith frazin's book and a Polish/English
dictionary. It shouldn't be implied however, that the same results
would not have been obtained if I communicated in English. I would
not hesitate to send the initial $30, but I would also not hesitate
to set a maximum amount to be spent on the research. In order to save
money, do not request more than one photocopy of each document. The
cost of photocopying in eastern Europe is very high.

I can't guarantee that it still works that way, but I have no reason
to believe that it doesn't.


Len Markowitz

I have changed my e-mail address and would appreciate future
correspondence going to: jackye@mill.net

Thanks!

Jackye Sullins

I have changed my e-mail address and would appreciate future
correspondence going to: jackye@mill.net

Thanks!

Jackye Sullins

Dear Jewish Genners

A word of caution to researchers: Sometimes things are not as they would
seem. This week I visited my paternal grandmother's grave for the first
time. A beautiful stone had been erected in the late 1930s giving her
name as Libby G. Kirsner. Had I not known her full name in advance I
might have thought her maiden name began with a 'G.' But I know the 'G'
is for Gussie, her middle name, and her maiden name was Finesilver.

Joyce Peck
Searching RUBIN and RUBENCHIK >from Minsk; GOLDSHMID (GOLDSHMITH) from
Minsk and Molodechno; KIRSNER and FINESILVER >from Dubno.

Dear Jewish Genners

A word of caution to researchers: Sometimes things are not as they would
seem. This week I visited my paternal grandmother's grave for the first
time. A beautiful stone had been erected in the late 1930s giving her
name as Libby G. Kirsner. Had I not known her full name in advance I
might have thought her maiden name began with a 'G.' But I know the 'G'
is for Gussie, her middle name, and her maiden name was Finesilver.

Joyce Peck
Searching RUBIN and RUBENCHIK >from Minsk; GOLDSHMID (GOLDSHMITH) from
Minsk and Molodechno; KIRSNER and FINESILVER >from Dubno.

OK, folks, I goofed in the way, I posted about my passenger list find..MY info came >from the
four books published by Balch inst..These books have been the subject of many Jewishgen
postings and look ups...Avotaynu sells these four big vols. The name escapes me...I bet
someone else remembers...Gayle They are on only Russian arrivals...

Roman Tunkel wrote:

What are you talking about? You have some ships database?
Please give me a site or more information, especially about last name.

***************************************************************

Gayle Riley <key2pst@pacbell.net writes:

I would like to thank publicly the Balch Inst.. for their wondeful work
on Russian names on the passenger list.. I found Mendel Garfinkel on the
Scandia out of Hamburg on 1-5-1891 also on that ship >from Timikovichi:

MODERATOR NOTE: The name of the series of books is "Migration >from the
Russian Empire - Lists of Passengers Arriving at U.S. Ports", edited by Ira A. Glazier.

OK, folks, I goofed in the way, I posted about my passenger list find..MY info came >from the
four books published by Balch inst..These books have been the subject of many Jewishgen
postings and look ups...Avotaynu sells these four big vols. The name escapes me...I bet
someone else remembers...Gayle They are on only Russian arrivals...

Roman Tunkel wrote:

What are you talking about? You have some ships database?
Please give me a site or more information, especially about last name.

***************************************************************

Gayle Riley <key2pst@pacbell.net writes:

I would like to thank publicly the Balch Inst.. for their wondeful work
on Russian names on the passenger list.. I found Mendel Garfinkel on the
Scandia out of Hamburg on 1-5-1891 also on that ship >from Timikovichi:

MODERATOR NOTE: The name of the series of books is "Migration >from the
Russian Empire - Lists of Passengers Arriving at U.S. Ports", edited by Ira A. Glazier.

Does somebody has a Bobruisk Telephone Books for 1960th-1980th?
Please let me know.

Roman Tunkel
Hartford, CT, USA
tunkelr@juno.com
Research for TUNKEL or TOONKEL

Does somebody has a Bobruisk Telephone Books for 1960th-1980th?
Please let me know.

Roman Tunkel
Hartford, CT, USA
tunkelr@juno.com
Research for TUNKEL or TOONKEL

I am searching for the family of Hinda & Sam Susser. Hinda's maiden name was
Goldberg and she had a brother Meyer. Hinda & Sam had two daughters: Bella
who married Mark and Esther who married Nat. Either one or both of these
families lives in California. Hinda & Sam would be deceased by now, but it is
possible that their children and/or their families would still be around. My
mother (who is still living) is the daughter of Meyer & Anne Goldberg.
If you can help, please email me. Thanks so much.

Ann Guthman Byrne
Colorado

I am searching for the family of Hinda & Sam Susser. Hinda's maiden name was
Goldberg and she had a brother Meyer. Hinda & Sam had two daughters: Bella
who married Mark and Esther who married Nat. Either one or both of these
families lives in California. Hinda & Sam would be deceased by now, but it is
possible that their children and/or their families would still be around. My
mother (who is still living) is the daughter of Meyer & Anne Goldberg.
If you can help, please email me. Thanks so much.

Ann Guthman Byrne
Colorado

Regarding your fruitless search for citizenship papers for
your husband's father, I don't know whether his going to live with his
father in St. Paul when he arrived in this country would have automatically
made him a citizen though I doubt it. But in your search for his papers,
did you try the Library of the Minnesota Historical Society? I understand
that's where the naturalization records are for Minnesota naturalizations
that took place in state or local (not Federal district) courts. My
grandfather was a rabbi in St. Paul and, according to the 1920 US Census,
was naturalized in 1919. I didn't turn up anything by writing to the
National Archives in Kansas City, where the Federal district court records
are for that time period. But I'm now awaiting three microfilm rolls with
indexes to naturalization records ordered through Inter-Library Loan from
the Minnesota Historical Society Library. If you haven't tried there, the
address is: 345 Kellogg Boulevard West, Minneapolis, MN 55102. It may
take a while; I've been waiting for about six weeks now. Good luck!

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld
Carlsbad, CA 92008

Regarding your fruitless search for citizenship papers for
your husband's father, I don't know whether his going to live with his
father in St. Paul when he arrived in this country would have automatically
made him a citizen though I doubt it. But in your search for his papers,
did you try the Library of the Minnesota Historical Society? I understand
that's where the naturalization records are for Minnesota naturalizations
that took place in state or local (not Federal district) courts. My
grandfather was a rabbi in St. Paul and, according to the 1920 US Census,
was naturalized in 1919. I didn't turn up anything by writing to the
National Archives in Kansas City, where the Federal district court records
are for that time period. But I'm now awaiting three microfilm rolls with
indexes to naturalization records ordered through Inter-Library Loan from
the Minnesota Historical Society Library. If you haven't tried there, the
address is: 345 Kellogg Boulevard West, Minneapolis, MN 55102. It may
take a while; I've been waiting for about six weeks now. Good luck!

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld
Carlsbad, CA 92008