Sherry Kamens asked, >> Additionally, where would one look for
ships prior to 1900? Thanks Sherry Kamens, Wayne, NJ
Sjkmb4@aol.com <<

There is a book called "Adler's Directory", "A compilation of
passenger steamships sailing >from European ports and arriving in
the Eastern ports of the United States >from 1899 to 1929,
inclusive." This book was published and distributed by the
"Steamship Directory Publishers, 116 Fifth Ave., New York City".
I cannot tell you where or if you can locate this book. It is
a valuable companion to Morton Adler, and should be reprinted and
computerized. (Maybe somebody would like to pass the info to
Cimmorelli.)
I can tell you that several years ago I found a copy of Adler's
in the Free Library of Philadelphia, 19th St. & The Parkway,
(Philadelphia, PA, USA) in the Business & Industry Department.
The book was under lock and key because of its very fragile condition.
I can also tell you that although the title page says "...1899
to 1929, inclusive", there are no listings for the years 1906
through 1927.
Selma Neubauer
Philadelphia, PA
SelmaN@aol.com

Sherry Kamens asked, >> Additionally, where would one look for
ships prior to 1900? Thanks Sherry Kamens, Wayne, NJ
Sjkmb4@aol.com <<

There is a book called "Adler's Directory", "A compilation of
passenger steamships sailing >from European ports and arriving in
the Eastern ports of the United States >from 1899 to 1929,
inclusive." This book was published and distributed by the
"Steamship Directory Publishers, 116 Fifth Ave., New York City".
I cannot tell you where or if you can locate this book. It is
a valuable companion to Morton Adler, and should be reprinted and
computerized. (Maybe somebody would like to pass the info to
Cimmorelli.)
I can tell you that several years ago I found a copy of Adler's
in the Free Library of Philadelphia, 19th St. & The Parkway,
(Philadelphia, PA, USA) in the Business & Industry Department.
The book was under lock and key because of its very fragile condition.
I can also tell you that although the title page says "...1899
to 1929, inclusive", there are no listings for the years 1906
through 1927.
Selma Neubauer
Philadelphia, PA
SelmaN@aol.com

terrific! Thanks

terrific! Thanks

In a previous post, I mentioned I was looking for the vital
records for Mikolayuv (coordinates 4946-2420), a shtetl near Lviv.

The moderator noted that they were probably in the Polish
National Archives in Warsaw and in the Lviv Archives.

Does anyone know if LDS would have microfilmed these records?
These records would all be dated before 1900, so personal privacy
factors are not applicable here.

Wayne Roth, Brooklyn, New York The2thdkdr@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: There are very few LDS microfilms available for
Jewish records in towns in Galicia. There are some microfilms at LDS
Family History Libraries for Jewish Galician records, mostly in the
provinces of Krakow and Rzeszow in Western Galicia (now Poland). One
exception is the film for Lwow (now Ukraine). As far as we know,
these films are for the following towns:

Biecz
Brzesko
Krakow (already included in JRI-Poland database on
Lezajsk
Lemberg (Lwow)
Pruchnik
Tarnow
Wadowice
Wisnicz

Refer to Suzan Wynne's book, Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia: A
Resource Guide, published by Avotaynu, Inc. If you know of any other
LDS films for Jewish records in Galicia, please inform this forum.

In a previous post, I mentioned I was looking for the vital
records for Mikolayuv (coordinates 4946-2420), a shtetl near Lviv.

The moderator noted that they were probably in the Polish
National Archives in Warsaw and in the Lviv Archives.

Does anyone know if LDS would have microfilmed these records?
These records would all be dated before 1900, so personal privacy
factors are not applicable here.

Wayne Roth, Brooklyn, New York The2thdkdr@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: There are very few LDS microfilms available for
Jewish records in towns in Galicia. There are some microfilms at LDS
Family History Libraries for Jewish Galician records, mostly in the
provinces of Krakow and Rzeszow in Western Galicia (now Poland). One
exception is the film for Lwow (now Ukraine). As far as we know,
these films are for the following towns:

Biecz
Brzesko
Krakow (already included in JRI-Poland database on
Lezajsk
Lemberg (Lwow)
Pruchnik
Tarnow
Wadowice
Wisnicz

Refer to Suzan Wynne's book, Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia: A
Resource Guide, published by Avotaynu, Inc. If you know of any other
LDS films for Jewish records in Galicia, please inform this forum.

Although his name escapes me, the project leader of the Yad Vashem effort
spoke about 2 months ago to the JGS of Greater Washington (DC area).
Can't speak for JewishGen, of course, but it did seem that IAJGS and others
in the Jewish genealogy world had been in touch and everyone was very well
aware of the genealogical significance. Some of the lists have duplicate
information in that the same person may well have been on more than one
list for various reasons. The lists varied in how many names were on it
but in general my recollection is that the list sizes were small. Of
course, the "readability" varied as well which is yet another reason why
the project will take to whenever.

Jonina Duker

Although his name escapes me, the project leader of the Yad Vashem effort
spoke about 2 months ago to the JGS of Greater Washington (DC area).
Can't speak for JewishGen, of course, but it did seem that IAJGS and others
in the Jewish genealogy world had been in touch and everyone was very well
aware of the genealogical significance. Some of the lists have duplicate
information in that the same person may well have been on more than one
list for various reasons. The lists varied in how many names were on it
but in general my recollection is that the list sizes were small. Of
course, the "readability" varied as well which is yet another reason why
the project will take to whenever.

Jonina Duker

I am seeking info on the Congregation of the Russian Brotherhood in St. Paul,
Minnesota, USA, for the years 1914-1925. My grandfather, Philip LEIBOVITZ
(LEIBOVICH) and grandmother Jennie SWEDELSKY LEIBOVITZ were married by M.
Kooperman (presumably a rabbi) of the Russian Brotherhood on 1/2/1914 in St.
Paul. Philip died in 1924 and was buried by the Russian Brotherhood.

Does anyone know if this congregation still exists or who would have the
records?

Thanks,
Sue Leibovitz Schudson
San Diego, California, USA

searching: LEIBOVITZ, SCHUDSON - Libau, KULSZAN - Plons

I am seeking info on the Congregation of the Russian Brotherhood in St. Paul,
Minnesota, USA, for the years 1914-1925. My grandfather, Philip LEIBOVITZ
(LEIBOVICH) and grandmother Jennie SWEDELSKY LEIBOVITZ were married by M.
Kooperman (presumably a rabbi) of the Russian Brotherhood on 1/2/1914 in St.
Paul. Philip died in 1924 and was buried by the Russian Brotherhood.

Does anyone know if this congregation still exists or who would have the
records?

Thanks,
Sue Leibovitz Schudson
San Diego, California, USA

searching: LEIBOVITZ, SCHUDSON - Libau, KULSZAN - Plons

The Toscher Rebbe in Montreal is supposedly also related to the Fisch (from
Nagykallo) family. If anyone has more information, I would be happy to
receive it.

Nancy Scholem

The Toscher Rebbe in Montreal is supposedly also related to the Fisch (from
Nagykallo) family. If anyone has more information, I would be happy to
receive it.

Nancy Scholem

Dear John and all

There is a town in Slovakia called Liptovsky Anna which in the A-H empire
times was called Szentanna (Saint Anna). This village is 11 km (~7 mi.)
northwest of Liptovsky Mikulas. This region (Liptov county) may have
belonged to Carpathia, but I am not sure.

It also occurred to me that "Sa'nta" (with an acute accent on the first
'a') means "lame" or "cripple" in Hungarian, so maybe after all there was a
town called "Sa'nta Anna" (lame Anna?). I couldn't find it in any of mine
gazetteers.

regards
Tom

>| From: Counsel17@aol.com
>| Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:52:31 EST

>| posted a message on the SIG about LOEWY's >from some place called
Santa Ana.

Dear John and all

There is a town in Slovakia called Liptovsky Anna which in the A-H empire
times was called Szentanna (Saint Anna). This village is 11 km (~7 mi.)
northwest of Liptovsky Mikulas. This region (Liptov county) may have
belonged to Carpathia, but I am not sure.

It also occurred to me that "Sa'nta" (with an acute accent on the first
'a') means "lame" or "cripple" in Hungarian, so maybe after all there was a
town called "Sa'nta Anna" (lame Anna?). I couldn't find it in any of mine
gazetteers.

regards
Tom

>| From: Counsel17@aol.com
>| Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:52:31 EST

>| posted a message on the SIG about LOEWY's >from some place called
Santa Ana.

On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:52:31 EST, you wrote:

mod. I don't always check, but I did this time and couldn't find Tash in=

my

gazeteer. Could it be a town I know in the southern =

carpathian/nortwestern

part of Romania called Tosch. Problem is I can't find that spelling in =

the

gazeteer either.=20

There is also the former Tacs, now Tonciu, SSW of Bistrita in Romania.

The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker returned these towns:

T=E1c 4705 1824 N Hungary 43.0 miles SW of Budapest=20
Tas (Tasypuszta) 4744 1953 V Hungary 40.6 miles ENE of Budapest=20
Tass 4701 1902 N Hungary 33.5 miles S of Budapest=20
Taz (Iaz) 4528 2214 V Romania 201.9 miles WNW of Bucharest=20
Toc 4601 2219 N Romania 214.0 miles WNW of Bucharest=20
Toci 4621 2302 N Romania 199.0 miles NW of Bucharest=20

Shtetl Seeker also has

SAINT ANNA (PODLJUBELJ) 4623 1416 V Slovenia 25.9 miles NNW of
Ljubljana=20
SANTANA (SINTANA) 4621 2130 V Romania 259.3 miles WNW of Bucharest,
which is 45 miles >from Toc, 73 miles >from Toci, and 70 miles >from Taz.
SANTIOANA (SINTIOANA) 4701 2334 V Romania 216.1 miles NNW of
Bucharest=20
SANTIOANA (SINTIOANA) 4659 2401 V Romania 202.7 miles NNW of
Bucharest=20
SANTIOANA (SINTIOANA) 4617 2433 V Romania 148.2 miles NNW of
Bucharest=20

Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

Peter Spiro wrote:

[Milton Friedman's] father Jeno Friedman was born in Beregszasz,
Hungary (now Berehovo in the Ukraine) in 1878,...

Is anybody in H-SIG related to him?

Perhaps a long shot, but my own Friedman side comes >from Tisza
Ujlak, Hungary (now Vilok in the Ukraine). Looks to be about 12
miles >from Berehovo.

Which raises a question: I know that Friedman is an awfully
common name. It was a popular choice when it came time to choose
surnames, so two Friedmans need not be related at all. Still, the
two towns were quite close. Could those of you who are more
knowledgeable about surnames in this part of western Hungary comment?

By the way, I'm an economist too. Not of Mr. Friedman's ideological
leanings, but it would nonetheless be a kick to find a relation.

-- Michael Gordy

On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:52:31 EST, you wrote:

mod. I don't always check, but I did this time and couldn't find Tash in=

my

gazeteer. Could it be a town I know in the southern =

carpathian/nortwestern

part of Romania called Tosch. Problem is I can't find that spelling in =

the

gazeteer either.=20

There is also the former Tacs, now Tonciu, SSW of Bistrita in Romania.

The JewishGen ShtetlSeeker returned these towns:

T=E1c 4705 1824 N Hungary 43.0 miles SW of Budapest=20
Tas (Tasypuszta) 4744 1953 V Hungary 40.6 miles ENE of Budapest=20
Tass 4701 1902 N Hungary 33.5 miles S of Budapest=20
Taz (Iaz) 4528 2214 V Romania 201.9 miles WNW of Bucharest=20
Toc 4601 2219 N Romania 214.0 miles WNW of Bucharest=20
Toci 4621 2302 N Romania 199.0 miles NW of Bucharest=20

Shtetl Seeker also has

SAINT ANNA (PODLJUBELJ) 4623 1416 V Slovenia 25.9 miles NNW of
Ljubljana=20
SANTANA (SINTANA) 4621 2130 V Romania 259.3 miles WNW of Bucharest,
which is 45 miles >from Toc, 73 miles >from Toci, and 70 miles >from Taz.
SANTIOANA (SINTIOANA) 4701 2334 V Romania 216.1 miles NNW of
Bucharest=20
SANTIOANA (SINTIOANA) 4659 2401 V Romania 202.7 miles NNW of
Bucharest=20
SANTIOANA (SINTIOANA) 4617 2433 V Romania 148.2 miles NNW of
Bucharest=20

Bob Friedman, NYC
inwood@pipeline.com

Peter Spiro wrote:

[Milton Friedman's] father Jeno Friedman was born in Beregszasz,
Hungary (now Berehovo in the Ukraine) in 1878,...

Is anybody in H-SIG related to him?

Perhaps a long shot, but my own Friedman side comes >from Tisza
Ujlak, Hungary (now Vilok in the Ukraine). Looks to be about 12
miles >from Berehovo.

Which raises a question: I know that Friedman is an awfully
common name. It was a popular choice when it came time to choose
surnames, so two Friedmans need not be related at all. Still, the
two towns were quite close. Could those of you who are more
knowledgeable about surnames in this part of western Hungary comment?

By the way, I'm an economist too. Not of Mr. Friedman's ideological
leanings, but it would nonetheless be a kick to find a relation.

-- Michael Gordy

For free translations online between English and 22 other languages,
including Hungarian, Czech, Croatian, Slovenian, Serbian, Polish, German,=

Italian, and French:

http://rivendel.com/~ric/resources/dictionary.html

I found it last night and was riveted to this site for hours. It
translates very slowly, but does the trick. Also has links for these
languages and dozens of others to web sites with dictionaries and languag=
e
courses. These include two Hungarian dictionaries which work great.

Maureen Tighe-Brown
University of Pittsburgh

For free translations online between English and 22 other languages,
including Hungarian, Czech, Croatian, Slovenian, Serbian, Polish, German,=

Italian, and French:

http://rivendel.com/~ric/resources/dictionary.html

I found it last night and was riveted to this site for hours. It
translates very slowly, but does the trick. Also has links for these
languages and dozens of others to web sites with dictionaries and languag=
e
courses. These include two Hungarian dictionaries which work great.

Maureen Tighe-Brown
University of Pittsburgh