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Seeking: PERLMUTER & SOBEL, NY, early 20th Cent. #general

joyweave@...
 

Hi Folks--

I'm wondering if anyone out there has links to the names PERLMUTER and/
or SOBEL in NY City before about 1925?

My mother told me she had an uncle named PERLMUTTER who was an
auctioneer on Lispanard St and had a son named Sam who was a
pawnbroker. She also mentioned a dentist and a lawyer named SOBEL who
were cousins.

Well, yesterday I ran through Street Directories >from 1898 to 1913 and I
found an auctioneer named Harris PERLMUTER at various lower east side
addresses, but not yet Lispanard. I also found a dentist named Fred
SOBEL and several SOBELs who were lawyers. Joseph SOBEL, in fact, listed
toward the end of my search period as both lawyer and pawnbroker. But
here's what blew me away: In 1903-4, Harris PERLMUTER was working out
of 437 Grand and at the same address, another auctioneer, Hy SOBEL.

So, I think the odds are good that these are my mother's relatives.

My grandmother, Fanny VILNER m. Samuel FEINBERG and came to NY in 1901.
Fanny's father, Leib VILNER, died when she was 3 years old and her
mother remarried. I don't know her step-father's name, but I'm
wondering, given the above if it might have been PERLMUTER or SOBEL and
thus the name of a step-brother, with the other name the married name of
a step-sister.

Fanny said she was >from Grodno and one of my uncles wrote Brisk
(Brest-Litovsk, Belarus) on his WWI Draft. Reg.

Any connections?

Joy Weaver
mailto:joyweave@erols.com

Seeking: Poland (Zaklikow): BLUMBERG, FOGIEL, ROZENEL. Belarus
(Grodno/Brest): FEINBERG, VILNER.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: PERLMUTER & SOBEL, NY, early 20th Cent. #general

joyweave@...
 

Hi Folks--

I'm wondering if anyone out there has links to the names PERLMUTER and/
or SOBEL in NY City before about 1925?

My mother told me she had an uncle named PERLMUTTER who was an
auctioneer on Lispanard St and had a son named Sam who was a
pawnbroker. She also mentioned a dentist and a lawyer named SOBEL who
were cousins.

Well, yesterday I ran through Street Directories >from 1898 to 1913 and I
found an auctioneer named Harris PERLMUTER at various lower east side
addresses, but not yet Lispanard. I also found a dentist named Fred
SOBEL and several SOBELs who were lawyers. Joseph SOBEL, in fact, listed
toward the end of my search period as both lawyer and pawnbroker. But
here's what blew me away: In 1903-4, Harris PERLMUTER was working out
of 437 Grand and at the same address, another auctioneer, Hy SOBEL.

So, I think the odds are good that these are my mother's relatives.

My grandmother, Fanny VILNER m. Samuel FEINBERG and came to NY in 1901.
Fanny's father, Leib VILNER, died when she was 3 years old and her
mother remarried. I don't know her step-father's name, but I'm
wondering, given the above if it might have been PERLMUTER or SOBEL and
thus the name of a step-brother, with the other name the married name of
a step-sister.

Fanny said she was >from Grodno and one of my uncles wrote Brisk
(Brest-Litovsk, Belarus) on his WWI Draft. Reg.

Any connections?

Joy Weaver
mailto:joyweave@erols.com

Seeking: Poland (Zaklikow): BLUMBERG, FOGIEL, ROZENEL. Belarus
(Grodno/Brest): FEINBERG, VILNER.


Re: Updates to SS Index? #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

TomHennie wrote:

Are updates made to the list of the Social Security Death Index? If so,
how does one access these updates? My CD Roms only go through 1996.
Hennie Greenland Omaha, NE
I don't know how often the records are updated, but I found a website with
scads more information than my CDs seemed to have. Found several
ancestors.

It's at www.ancestry.com It'll also let you print a letter right >from the
database, to request the SS file for that person.

Good Luck!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA
propper@bellsouth.net
Researching RINCOVER, HENKIN/GHENKIN, PENSON/PENSAKHINSKY,
SREBERG/SCHRIEBER,
POLLACK, BERLIN (Hilda, Willie)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Updates to SS Index? #general

Hilary Henkin <propper@...>
 

TomHennie wrote:

Are updates made to the list of the Social Security Death Index? If so,
how does one access these updates? My CD Roms only go through 1996.
Hennie Greenland Omaha, NE
I don't know how often the records are updated, but I found a website with
scads more information than my CDs seemed to have. Found several
ancestors.

It's at www.ancestry.com It'll also let you print a letter right >from the
database, to request the SS file for that person.

Good Luck!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA
propper@bellsouth.net
Researching RINCOVER, HENKIN/GHENKIN, PENSON/PENSAKHINSKY,
SREBERG/SCHRIEBER,
POLLACK, BERLIN (Hilda, Willie)


South Africa to Boston #general

SBWeiner@...
 

In the 1940s a member of my family traveled >from South Africa to
Boston via Trinidad & Tobago.

Good luck with your research!

Susan Weiner
Boston


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen South Africa to Boston #general

SBWeiner@...
 

In the 1940s a member of my family traveled >from South Africa to
Boston via Trinidad & Tobago.

Good luck with your research!

Susan Weiner
Boston


Klen Chelist #general

ADAM1GS@...
 

I recently found my aunt's Petition For Naturalization; and Klen Chelist,
Russia was indicated as place of birth and last place of foreign residence.
I have been unable to locate in WOWW, or on Shtetlseeker. Some family
members believe it was located near Vilna, others believe near Kiev. Does
anyone have any thoughts or suggestions regarding the correct name or
location for Klen Chelist. Your input is greatly appreciated.
Fred Klein
adam1gs@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Klen Chelist #general

ADAM1GS@...
 

I recently found my aunt's Petition For Naturalization; and Klen Chelist,
Russia was indicated as place of birth and last place of foreign residence.
I have been unable to locate in WOWW, or on Shtetlseeker. Some family
members believe it was located near Vilna, others believe near Kiev. Does
anyone have any thoughts or suggestions regarding the correct name or
location for Klen Chelist. Your input is greatly appreciated.
Fred Klein
adam1gs@aol.com


Re: Searching the geneology of the Goil'm from Prague #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

Wish to find out about the ancestry of the 16th century, "Goil'm from
Prague", and whether this illustrious figure left any descendants.

Isn't April Fool's Day a month away?

MODERATOR NOTE : Although April Fool's Day is indeed a month
away, Purim is upon us and the moderator started celebrating
too early...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching the geneology of the Goil'm from Prague #general

Jessica Schein <jesshschein@...>
 

Wish to find out about the ancestry of the 16th century, "Goil'm from
Prague", and whether this illustrious figure left any descendants.

Isn't April Fool's Day a month away?

MODERATOR NOTE : Although April Fool's Day is indeed a month
away, Purim is upon us and the moderator started celebrating
too early...


Searching: DeMERS - LANNING Families #general

Drew A. Techner <user102000@...>
 

DeMERS & LANNING Families

Looking to contact anyone with knowledge of a George DeMERS who was six
years old on June 1, 1947 when he was severely bitten by a dog in both
his legs while sitting on his front steps in the Fox Chase section of
Philadelphia. He attended the Fox Chase School at the time and was
the son of George and Eleanor (LANNING) DeMERS. Eleanor was the
daughter of Mr. & Mrs. Horace LANNING.

Please reply privately. Thanks.

Drew Techner
Philadelphia
USER102000@JUNO.COM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: DeMERS - LANNING Families #general

Drew A. Techner <user102000@...>
 

DeMERS & LANNING Families

Looking to contact anyone with knowledge of a George DeMERS who was six
years old on June 1, 1947 when he was severely bitten by a dog in both
his legs while sitting on his front steps in the Fox Chase section of
Philadelphia. He attended the Fox Chase School at the time and was
the son of George and Eleanor (LANNING) DeMERS. Eleanor was the
daughter of Mr. & Mrs. Horace LANNING.

Please reply privately. Thanks.

Drew Techner
Philadelphia
USER102000@JUNO.COM


Mt. Freedom, NJ Hotels #general

Gary Platt <grplatt@...>
 

For those of you with NJ roots who have memories of the Jewish hotels
and bungalow colonies in Mt. Freedom, check out the following page on
the Randolph Township, NJ web site:

http://www.gti.net/randolph/hotels/hotel.html

Enjoy!

Gary R. Platt
Morristown, New Jersey

Searching: DEUTSCH, KLEIN, GROSZ, MOSCOVITS (Nyiregyhaza & Oros,
Hungary); SCHUBERT (Fel-Bar & Suly, Hungary, now the Slovak Repub);
PLOTNICK/PALOTNIK/PLATT (Czarna Ostrov, Ukraine, /Philadelphia,
PA/Elizabeth, NJ); SCHLOFF (Proskurov,Ukraine/Minneapolis-St. Paul,
MN); ALTERSON (Kiev, Ukraine/New York, NY); SHAPIRO (Jonova, Lithuania/
New York, NY); DOMB & ALTMAN (Plock, Poland/ London, England/Morristown,

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt. Freedom, NJ Hotels #general

Gary Platt <grplatt@...>
 

For those of you with NJ roots who have memories of the Jewish hotels
and bungalow colonies in Mt. Freedom, check out the following page on
the Randolph Township, NJ web site:

http://www.gti.net/randolph/hotels/hotel.html

Enjoy!

Gary R. Platt
Morristown, New Jersey

Searching: DEUTSCH, KLEIN, GROSZ, MOSCOVITS (Nyiregyhaza & Oros,
Hungary); SCHUBERT (Fel-Bar & Suly, Hungary, now the Slovak Repub);
PLOTNICK/PALOTNIK/PLATT (Czarna Ostrov, Ukraine, /Philadelphia,
PA/Elizabeth, NJ); SCHLOFF (Proskurov,Ukraine/Minneapolis-St. Paul,
MN); ALTERSON (Kiev, Ukraine/New York, NY); SHAPIRO (Jonova, Lithuania/
New York, NY); DOMB & ALTMAN (Plock, Poland/ London, England/Morristown,

MODERATOR NOTE: List edited by moderator to maximum allowed 6 lines


Re: encyclopedias - Non-relevant questions? #general

Joan C. Brown <jcb2502@...>
 

Merav Schejtman writes as follows:
Some people seem to regard this as an on line 24 hour help with all
kinds of non relevant questions.
Some of these questions and answers will never ever help anyone with
their family search or with tracking lost relatives (like the cheese
debate for one) >>>snip>>>>>

Family history is not just dates and places, though those are essential.
The framework needs flesh on its bones. It also consists of "cheese"
stories.
That was a delightful window on history. If we pose "non-relevant"
questions, it is because we need some guidance, not that we wish to
aggravate our fellow Genners. While it may be trying at times, please
knowledgeable ones, be patient with the learners. Don't take us to
task.
Joan Brown
Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: encyclopedias - Non-relevant questions? #general

Joan C. Brown <jcb2502@...>
 

Merav Schejtman writes as follows:
Some people seem to regard this as an on line 24 hour help with all
kinds of non relevant questions.
Some of these questions and answers will never ever help anyone with
their family search or with tracking lost relatives (like the cheese
debate for one) >>>snip>>>>>

Family history is not just dates and places, though those are essential.
The framework needs flesh on its bones. It also consists of "cheese"
stories.
That was a delightful window on history. If we pose "non-relevant"
questions, it is because we need some guidance, not that we wish to
aggravate our fellow Genners. While it may be trying at times, please
knowledgeable ones, be patient with the learners. Don't take us to
task.
Joan Brown
Virginia


Re Date Converter #general

Schulder Itzhak <charlder@...>
 

Shalom J-G

It seems to me , that this Date Converter can help ....

http://www.israelvisit.co.il/Calendar/index.html

Regards ,
Itzik Schulder
Kibbutz Ein-Dor , Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Date Converter #general

Schulder Itzhak <charlder@...>
 

Shalom J-G

It seems to me , that this Date Converter can help ....

http://www.israelvisit.co.il/Calendar/index.html

Regards ,
Itzik Schulder
Kibbutz Ein-Dor , Israel


Re: encyclopedias #general

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

I do not want to start a big debate but, I must disagree with the letter
complaining about questions asked of this group. I find that learning the
genealogy is not just about names and dates and places. It is about life
and culture. It is about the customs that people bring with them from
where they came.
I have learned many things >from the letters to this group and benefited by
questions that I have not yet thought to ask. If anything, I have been a
little disappointed to not be able to see all the answers to the questions
asked because most seem to be answered privately rather than to the group.
Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with utilizing the collective
knowledge of hundreds of people researching essentially the same subject.
Published sources are helpful but, so is the dynamic, ever growing body of
knowledge that this group represents.

Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com

M Schejtman wrote:

Some people seem to regard this as an on line 24 hour help with all
kinds of non relevant questions. Some of these questions and answers
will never ever help anyone with their family search or with tracking
lost relatives (like the cheese debate for one). Others ask questions,
instead of opening up a regular encyclopedia or an enc.. Judaica. (who
was Ahad Ha'am or Montefiore).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: encyclopedias #general

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

I do not want to start a big debate but, I must disagree with the letter
complaining about questions asked of this group. I find that learning the
genealogy is not just about names and dates and places. It is about life
and culture. It is about the customs that people bring with them from
where they came.
I have learned many things >from the letters to this group and benefited by
questions that I have not yet thought to ask. If anything, I have been a
little disappointed to not be able to see all the answers to the questions
asked because most seem to be answered privately rather than to the group.
Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with utilizing the collective
knowledge of hundreds of people researching essentially the same subject.
Published sources are helpful but, so is the dynamic, ever growing body of
knowledge that this group represents.

Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com

M Schejtman wrote:

Some people seem to regard this as an on line 24 hour help with all
kinds of non relevant questions. Some of these questions and answers
will never ever help anyone with their family search or with tracking
lost relatives (like the cheese debate for one). Others ask questions,
instead of opening up a regular encyclopedia or an enc.. Judaica. (who
was Ahad Ha'am or Montefiore).