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Re: Deportation to Minsk #belarus

Barry Hantman <hantman@...>
 

CHARLOTTEO@aol.com wrote:
There is also a 'cemetery for hundreds of Belarussian villages destroyed by
the Wehrmacht' named CHATYN. Some of these villages were never re-built or re-
settled.
There is a LONG side at Chatyn, about two city blocks long, with names of such
ghettos and concentration camps and each has a central marker, listing
thousands (as many as 800,000) dead.
I have pictures of this that I could post on the web if
there's interest.

I also have a picture of the monument in Minsk that was erected
in memory of the Jews killed in WW2. It's a very small monument
that's extremely difficult to find. But, someone puts fresh
flowers in front of it each day.

Barry Hantman
Email: hantman@acm.org
www.hantman.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Barry, if you have scanner, please scan the photos in TIFF
file format and provide a caption for each photo. Please e-mail the photo
files to Risa Heywood <risah@ibm.net>, our webmaster, and the Elsebeth
Paikin <elsebeth@paikin.dk>, one of our Newsletter editors.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Deportation to Minsk #belarus

Barry Hantman <hantman@...>
 

CHARLOTTEO@aol.com wrote:
There is also a 'cemetery for hundreds of Belarussian villages destroyed by
the Wehrmacht' named CHATYN. Some of these villages were never re-built or re-
settled.
There is a LONG side at Chatyn, about two city blocks long, with names of such
ghettos and concentration camps and each has a central marker, listing
thousands (as many as 800,000) dead.
I have pictures of this that I could post on the web if
there's interest.

I also have a picture of the monument in Minsk that was erected
in memory of the Jews killed in WW2. It's a very small monument
that's extremely difficult to find. But, someone puts fresh
flowers in front of it each day.

Barry Hantman
Email: hantman@acm.org
www.hantman.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Barry, if you have scanner, please scan the photos in TIFF
file format and provide a caption for each photo. Please e-mail the photo
files to Risa Heywood <risah@ibm.net>, our webmaster, and the Elsebeth
Paikin <elsebeth@paikin.dk>, one of our Newsletter editors.


Correction **Gerts as a given name, Lithuania 1800's #general

Maria Krane
 

Hello Again Genners,

Someone kindly pointed out (thank you) that I failed to state the time and
place for the name I am researching. That, I believe makes it difficult to
receive accurate responses. The given name I previously posted "Gerts,"
was found on the 1858 revision list >from the town of Vegery in Lithuania.
If anyone could help out with what other variation of this name there is,
I'd truly appreciate it. Thank you (as always).
Regards,
Maria Krane
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MariaKrane@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correction **Gerts as a given name, Lithuania 1800's #general

Maria Krane
 

Hello Again Genners,

Someone kindly pointed out (thank you) that I failed to state the time and
place for the name I am researching. That, I believe makes it difficult to
receive accurate responses. The given name I previously posted "Gerts,"
was found on the 1858 revision list >from the town of Vegery in Lithuania.
If anyone could help out with what other variation of this name there is,
I'd truly appreciate it. Thank you (as always).
Regards,
Maria Krane
Pembroke Pines, Florida
MariaKrane@aol.com


YIVO's Guide to Landsmanschaftn #galicia

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

A Guide to YIVO's Landsmanschaftn Archive is written in English and is
still in print.

YIVO has recently moved to its new home in the Center for Jewish
History and is not yet open. Its archives cannot be accessed until the
new facility is open at 15 W. 16th St., New York.


Joyce Field
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project
West Lafayette, Indiana
jfield@pop.nlci.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia YIVO's Guide to Landsmanschaftn #galicia

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

A Guide to YIVO's Landsmanschaftn Archive is written in English and is
still in print.

YIVO has recently moved to its new home in the Center for Jewish
History and is not yet open. Its archives cannot be accessed until the
new facility is open at 15 W. 16th St., New York.


Joyce Field
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project
West Lafayette, Indiana
jfield@pop.nlci.com


Bobrka - Alive and well #galicia

Beverly Shulster <bevs@...>
 

Wayne Roth wrote in part:

Someone once mentioned to me that vital records for Jewish villages
were also kept in a nearby town called Bobrka, which I believe is now
called Chodorow.>>

Let me assure you that Bobrka is still Bobrka, 18 km >from Lviv. I have
seen one current map where it is spelled Bibrka, but Chodorow it is
not.

In fact Chodorov is approximately another 20 km further south on the
same road.

More importantly, I am in possession of an official document issued by
Bobrka city hall in 1920. It is a certificate issued in lieu of a
birth certificate wherein it states clearly that the records were all
burned together with the city hall building during WWI. So if you are
looking for records older than WWI, unfortunately you won't find them
there.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel
bevs@compuserve.com

Searching:
DONNER / Bobrka, Ukraine -> California, US
SCHULSTER / Bobrka, Bukaczowce & Tarnopol; Ukraine
-> Israel, Brazil, England, US
DE HAAFF, KATAN, SPETTER, VAN GELDER / Rotterdam, Holland


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Bobrka - Alive and well #galicia

Beverly Shulster <bevs@...>
 

Wayne Roth wrote in part:

Someone once mentioned to me that vital records for Jewish villages
were also kept in a nearby town called Bobrka, which I believe is now
called Chodorow.>>

Let me assure you that Bobrka is still Bobrka, 18 km >from Lviv. I have
seen one current map where it is spelled Bibrka, but Chodorow it is
not.

In fact Chodorov is approximately another 20 km further south on the
same road.

More importantly, I am in possession of an official document issued by
Bobrka city hall in 1920. It is a certificate issued in lieu of a
birth certificate wherein it states clearly that the records were all
burned together with the city hall building during WWI. So if you are
looking for records older than WWI, unfortunately you won't find them
there.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel
bevs@compuserve.com

Searching:
DONNER / Bobrka, Ukraine -> California, US
SCHULSTER / Bobrka, Bukaczowce & Tarnopol; Ukraine
-> Israel, Brazil, England, US
DE HAAFF, KATAN, SPETTER, VAN GELDER / Rotterdam, Holland


Archives/Libraries in Austria #galicia

Andreas Inhofner <A.Inhofner@...>
 

Dear Galician Sigger's,

1. first of all, best greetings >from Vienna, Austria!

2. I introduced my research by message "NUSSBAUM >from Brody" of 2/18/99.

3. I invite you to look to some of the Austrian web-sites -- in English
language also --which might be helpful for your further research:

3.1 "I don't know of anything more important than knowing this archive
exists. Far more people should know about it." Elias Canetti, Nobel
Prize Winner, about The Documentation Center of Austrian Resistance:
www.doew.at themes: resistance and persecution, Holocaust and exile,
right-wing-extremism, etc. LinX to national and international
organizations.

3.2 Oesterreichisches Staatsarchiv: www.oesta.gv.at click "family
research" and find explanations + links to gensearch in Austria and ---
Countries of Former Austria-Hungaria --- !!! + Index of Austrian
archives and libraries + -----> link to Institut of Historian Family
Research.

3.3 wienonline www.magwien.gv.at click "culture" for
fam.research-explanations.

Andreas Inhofner, Vienna, do not all reply to A.Inhofner@aon.at

MODERATOR NOTE: Wien is Vienna in German, thus wienonline is Vienna
Online. Let us know if you find anything of interest to the group.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Archives/Libraries in Austria #galicia

Andreas Inhofner <A.Inhofner@...>
 

Dear Galician Sigger's,

1. first of all, best greetings >from Vienna, Austria!

2. I introduced my research by message "NUSSBAUM >from Brody" of 2/18/99.

3. I invite you to look to some of the Austrian web-sites -- in English
language also --which might be helpful for your further research:

3.1 "I don't know of anything more important than knowing this archive
exists. Far more people should know about it." Elias Canetti, Nobel
Prize Winner, about The Documentation Center of Austrian Resistance:
www.doew.at themes: resistance and persecution, Holocaust and exile,
right-wing-extremism, etc. LinX to national and international
organizations.

3.2 Oesterreichisches Staatsarchiv: www.oesta.gv.at click "family
research" and find explanations + links to gensearch in Austria and ---
Countries of Former Austria-Hungaria --- !!! + Index of Austrian
archives and libraries + -----> link to Institut of Historian Family
Research.

3.3 wienonline www.magwien.gv.at click "culture" for
fam.research-explanations.

Andreas Inhofner, Vienna, do not all reply to A.Inhofner@aon.at

MODERATOR NOTE: Wien is Vienna in German, thus wienonline is Vienna
Online. Let us know if you find anything of interest to the group.


Radomyshl #galicia

melody gross <melody@...>
 

How could I possibly know which Radomyshl my grandmother was talking about?
Where do I start?

My area has been Slovakia for ages, so if anyone needs guiding there, feel
free--

Melody Amsel Gross, wintry Beersheva, Israel
melody@gimby.save-net.co.il

Searching:
AMSEL/Stropkov, Michalovce,Vraanov, Bardiov, Olka, Hertnik,
Zbudska Bela -- Slovakia + anywhere
BAUM, RITTER, SCHWARTZ/Stropkov, Okruhle, Chotca --Slovakia
LANDAU, BECKEER,AMSEL/Humenne--Slovakia
BECKER, ZAZULIA, POLLACK, MORGENSTERN/ Chotin, Navatselet,
Klishkivitz --Bessarabia


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Radomyshl #galicia

melody gross <melody@...>
 

How could I possibly know which Radomyshl my grandmother was talking about?
Where do I start?

My area has been Slovakia for ages, so if anyone needs guiding there, feel
free--

Melody Amsel Gross, wintry Beersheva, Israel
melody@gimby.save-net.co.il

Searching:
AMSEL/Stropkov, Michalovce,Vraanov, Bardiov, Olka, Hertnik,
Zbudska Bela -- Slovakia + anywhere
BAUM, RITTER, SCHWARTZ/Stropkov, Okruhle, Chotca --Slovakia
LANDAU, BECKEER,AMSEL/Humenne--Slovakia
BECKER, ZAZULIA, POLLACK, MORGENSTERN/ Chotin, Navatselet,
Klishkivitz --Bessarabia


BREST family #latvia

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

I am posting this for Anne Lapedus Brest. Please reply via private e-mail,
since she does not wish to subscribe to yet another genealogy mailing list!

============================================================================
===

Hallo, dear People,

I am looking for the descendants of Ezer BREST, born Bauska, Latvia abt.
1861. He had 2 children that we know of namely Charlotte (Lottie) Brest,
b. 1879 in Bauska, Latvia and who emigrated to Milwaukee, WI, USA and
Morris BREST b. 1886, Bauska, Latvia, who came to live in Johannesburg,
South Africa with his Wife, Chaia Orkin Brest and their 3 sons, Baines,
Eric and Solly (Tich). There were possibly another two children born to
Ezer BREST namely Sora and Leib (Leiba) BREST but nothing is known of them.
Baines Brest was my childrens Grandfather. There are another 3 BREST
Families that I am researching and have detailed family Trees for. anyone
knowing of any BREST families, please could you contact me privately at
angi@icon.co.za. Please note, our FAMILY name is Brest, and I am not
looking for family who came >from the TOWN Brest.

Many thanks,
Anne
angi@icon.co.za
------------

ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa. (ex DUBLIN, IRELAND)
Researching: : LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS (all spellings) Lithuania, Latvia,
Poland.
and BREST FAMILY - Bauska, Latvia.


Marion Werle
<werle@pacificnet.net>


Latvia SIG #Latvia BREST family #latvia

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

I am posting this for Anne Lapedus Brest. Please reply via private e-mail,
since she does not wish to subscribe to yet another genealogy mailing list!

============================================================================
===

Hallo, dear People,

I am looking for the descendants of Ezer BREST, born Bauska, Latvia abt.
1861. He had 2 children that we know of namely Charlotte (Lottie) Brest,
b. 1879 in Bauska, Latvia and who emigrated to Milwaukee, WI, USA and
Morris BREST b. 1886, Bauska, Latvia, who came to live in Johannesburg,
South Africa with his Wife, Chaia Orkin Brest and their 3 sons, Baines,
Eric and Solly (Tich). There were possibly another two children born to
Ezer BREST namely Sora and Leib (Leiba) BREST but nothing is known of them.
Baines Brest was my childrens Grandfather. There are another 3 BREST
Families that I am researching and have detailed family Trees for. anyone
knowing of any BREST families, please could you contact me privately at
angi@icon.co.za. Please note, our FAMILY name is Brest, and I am not
looking for family who came >from the TOWN Brest.

Many thanks,
Anne
angi@icon.co.za
------------

ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa. (ex DUBLIN, IRELAND)
Researching: : LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS (all spellings) Lithuania, Latvia,
Poland.
and BREST FAMILY - Bauska, Latvia.


Marion Werle
<werle@pacificnet.net>


New Ulanow ShtetLinks site #galicia

Melodykatz@...
 

I am pleased to announce that I have completed my Ulanow, Poland
ShtetLinks page. Check it out at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/ulanow/ulanow.html .

There are a lot of photos and unique information about Ulanow, along
with various lists of former Jewish residents and the people
researching them!

The Ulanow Cemetery Project has been completed and the results can be
viewed on the above Ulanow Page.

Melody Katz (Sylmar, CA)
Melodykatz@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia New Ulanow ShtetLinks site #galicia

Melodykatz@...
 

I am pleased to announce that I have completed my Ulanow, Poland
ShtetLinks page. Check it out at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/ulanow/ulanow.html .

There are a lot of photos and unique information about Ulanow, along
with various lists of former Jewish residents and the people
researching them!

The Ulanow Cemetery Project has been completed and the results can be
viewed on the above Ulanow Page.

Melody Katz (Sylmar, CA)
Melodykatz@aol.com


Re: Obtaining Passports In Galicia 100 Years Ago #galicia

Wildpom@...
 

My questions are as follows:

1. What were the requirements in terms of documentation?
2. Other than a birth certificate, was additional proof of identity
needed?
3. If a person did not have a copy of their birth certificate was
there another type of document acceptable as a "proof of identity"?
4. Where did one go to apply for a passport?
5. How long did it take to receive a passport?
6. For what length of time was a passport valid?
7. What did it cost?
8. What type of rules and regulations were there?
9. If a Jewish individual wanted to change their surname in Galicia,
was this legally permitted?
10. And finally, if someone did not legally change their surname in
Galicia but chose the method of being "also known as" (a.k.a.)
for most of their adult lifetime, could they have shown papers
using their "a.k.a." as a form of documentation in applying for a
passport?

Michele V. Pomerantz
Secaucus, NJ
Wildpom@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Obtaining Passports In Galicia 100 Years Ago #galicia

Wildpom@...
 

My questions are as follows:

1. What were the requirements in terms of documentation?
2. Other than a birth certificate, was additional proof of identity
needed?
3. If a person did not have a copy of their birth certificate was
there another type of document acceptable as a "proof of identity"?
4. Where did one go to apply for a passport?
5. How long did it take to receive a passport?
6. For what length of time was a passport valid?
7. What did it cost?
8. What type of rules and regulations were there?
9. If a Jewish individual wanted to change their surname in Galicia,
was this legally permitted?
10. And finally, if someone did not legally change their surname in
Galicia but chose the method of being "also known as" (a.k.a.)
for most of their adult lifetime, could they have shown papers
using their "a.k.a." as a form of documentation in applying for a
passport?

Michele V. Pomerantz
Secaucus, NJ
Wildpom@aol.com


Research Materials for 1999 Conference in NYC #general

Lew Norman <lewnorman@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc., will host the 19th Annual
Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York City, August 8 - 13, 1999.
A highlight of the Conference will be the Resource Room located at the
Conference hotel. In addition to providing the Conference attendees with
an "on-site" basic research library, the Resource Room will showcase the
numerous research projects compiled by Jewish genealogists throughout the
world. The Resource Room Committee is currently soliciting contributions
of Genealogical materials which would be useful and informative to the
Conference attendees, especially materials which are unique or unusual.
In particular, the Committee is requesting printed copies of indexes,
databases, unpublished manuscripts and private collections, in addition to
commercially published books and maps. Many Jewish genealogists have
compiled information >from and about local cemeteries, synagogues, Jewish
newspapers, public records and other sources, to use as research aids.
Although some of these resources have made their way into various
publications or databases on the Internet, many have not been published,
making the Resource Room at the 1999 Conference the perfect place for their
public debut.

All materials loaned to the Resource Room must be in appropriate printed
form and will be returned immediately after the Conference has ended. If
you are interested in contributing materials to the Resource Room, please
send a list identifying and describing those materials to the Resource Room
Committee c/o Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc., 600 West End Avenue, Suite
10F, New York, NY, 10024, or by email at "lewnorman@aol.com." The Resource
Room Committee will contact all potential contributors regarding the
necessary arrangements to obtain the materials prior to the Conference and
to return them afterwards. Please be assured that appropriate security
measures will be taken to protect all loaned materials and the Conference
will accept responsibility for their safekeeping. Any further inquiries
should be addressed to the Resource Room Committee at the above postal or
email address.

Resource Room Committee:
Mark Nearenberg
Arthur Simpson
Robert Kern


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research Materials for 1999 Conference in NYC #general

Lew Norman <lewnorman@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc., will host the 19th Annual
Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York City, August 8 - 13, 1999.
A highlight of the Conference will be the Resource Room located at the
Conference hotel. In addition to providing the Conference attendees with
an "on-site" basic research library, the Resource Room will showcase the
numerous research projects compiled by Jewish genealogists throughout the
world. The Resource Room Committee is currently soliciting contributions
of Genealogical materials which would be useful and informative to the
Conference attendees, especially materials which are unique or unusual.
In particular, the Committee is requesting printed copies of indexes,
databases, unpublished manuscripts and private collections, in addition to
commercially published books and maps. Many Jewish genealogists have
compiled information >from and about local cemeteries, synagogues, Jewish
newspapers, public records and other sources, to use as research aids.
Although some of these resources have made their way into various
publications or databases on the Internet, many have not been published,
making the Resource Room at the 1999 Conference the perfect place for their
public debut.

All materials loaned to the Resource Room must be in appropriate printed
form and will be returned immediately after the Conference has ended. If
you are interested in contributing materials to the Resource Room, please
send a list identifying and describing those materials to the Resource Room
Committee c/o Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc., 600 West End Avenue, Suite
10F, New York, NY, 10024, or by email at "lewnorman@aol.com." The Resource
Room Committee will contact all potential contributors regarding the
necessary arrangements to obtain the materials prior to the Conference and
to return them afterwards. Please be assured that appropriate security
measures will be taken to protect all loaned materials and the Conference
will accept responsibility for their safekeeping. Any further inquiries
should be addressed to the Resource Room Committee at the above postal or
email address.

Resource Room Committee:
Mark Nearenberg
Arthur Simpson
Robert Kern