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Searching: Dan GOSTYNSKI, b. ca 1937, Lodz #general

ada01@...
 

Shalom,

In the Holocaust Global Registry http://www.jewishgen.org/registry/
I found the following record, searching a lost child
Gostynski Dan >from Lodz.

Born: Around 1937 Lodz , Poland
Parents: Gostynski, Szymon-born 1904 & Gostynski, Magda
I remember The family together with a 15-year-old relative
managed to escape >from The Lodz Ghetto in 1943 and fled to the
vicinity of Sandomierz. Here Dan was given to a Polish farmer
who lived in the first village on the right hand when you go
from Zawichost to Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski in a
distance of 2-3 miles >from Zawichost.

Through the kind assistance of Mrs. Eva Floersheim >from the Galil Genealogical
Society ( which made and maintain the incredible project: "Missing identity"
kindly hosted now by JewishGen, at: http://www.jewishgen.org/missing-identity/
), I was connected with Leon (Lajb) Gostynski, who is
the uncle of Dan, the little child who was given to a Polish
farmer, near Zawichost.

My special interest in this name is that my mother was born
GOSTYNSKI in Gomabin (Gabin) near the town of Gostynin and
Plock. I never thought there is anybody in the world who is
named Gostynski. All the Gostynski family, Pinkus - my uncle;
Jakob - my grandfather and they didn't also spare my great
grandfather Mosiek, age 85 years old, all were put to death in
Chelmno April 1942. So my heart missed a beat, when, after
many months I received a letter >from the man who made the initial
inquiry: Leon (Lajb) GOSTYNSKI. He was born
in Lodz, son of Jakob (same name as my grandfather...), son
of Szimon GOSTYNSKI. The man wrote to me that there was a
tradition in the family >from father to son, that the family
originated in ...Gombin... So we must be related but we don't
know how. Moyzesz GOSTYNSKI (my ggrandfather) was a butcher in Gombin.
Through marriage certificate located in the JRI database, I found out that he
was born in Gombin year 1857, father: Loyne (?) and mother Ryfka.
from past research I know he had a brother: Dawid GOSTYNSKI.
Moyzesz GOSTYNSKI descendants (all perished in the Holocaust without
leaving any traces) were: Jakob GOSTYNSKI (my grandfather, murdered in chelmno),
Perla ZAWIERUCHA b. 1890 in Gombin, (transported >from Drancy to Auschwitz
24.6.1942), Ryfka Lea SANICKI (perished in Chelmno - see:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/chaja/SANICKI.HTM
) and unknown daughter who married the baker of ZAKROCZYM and her name is still a
mystery to me.

Back to the research for Dan Gostynski. More information supplied
by Leon GOSTYNSKI:
The 2 old baby boy was delivered to Polish farmers >from the village near Sandomierz,
about 100 miles South of Warsaw, on the border of Galicia and Congress Poland.
This happened in 1942, when Dan's parents, Magda and Szymon run away from
Ghetto Lodz. They delivered the boy to a Polish farmer near Zawichost,
near Sandomierz. The information was supplied by another cousin, who run away
together with the couple, named Rozenfeld. Leon believes he is still alive, under
false identity, in Poland.

After the war, the original Polish population of the village was
replaced, and the people were transferred to other places
in western Poland.

*Does anyone know about this transfer of population and when and why
this happened.

* Where is Zawichost, as I couldn't locate in the map.

* May anyone have a suggestion how to continue the search of the little boy Dan
GOSTYNSKI, now reaching 60, desperately searched by his uncle for tens of years?

* Does anyone know of any other GOSTYNSKI
still alive who were born in Poland?

Any help will be highly appreciated, Toda Raba,

Ada Holtzman
www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Dan GOSTYNSKI, b. ca 1937, Lodz #general

ada01@...
 

Shalom,

In the Holocaust Global Registry http://www.jewishgen.org/registry/
I found the following record, searching a lost child
Gostynski Dan >from Lodz.

Born: Around 1937 Lodz , Poland
Parents: Gostynski, Szymon-born 1904 & Gostynski, Magda
I remember The family together with a 15-year-old relative
managed to escape >from The Lodz Ghetto in 1943 and fled to the
vicinity of Sandomierz. Here Dan was given to a Polish farmer
who lived in the first village on the right hand when you go
from Zawichost to Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski in a
distance of 2-3 miles >from Zawichost.

Through the kind assistance of Mrs. Eva Floersheim >from the Galil Genealogical
Society ( which made and maintain the incredible project: "Missing identity"
kindly hosted now by JewishGen, at: http://www.jewishgen.org/missing-identity/
), I was connected with Leon (Lajb) Gostynski, who is
the uncle of Dan, the little child who was given to a Polish
farmer, near Zawichost.

My special interest in this name is that my mother was born
GOSTYNSKI in Gomabin (Gabin) near the town of Gostynin and
Plock. I never thought there is anybody in the world who is
named Gostynski. All the Gostynski family, Pinkus - my uncle;
Jakob - my grandfather and they didn't also spare my great
grandfather Mosiek, age 85 years old, all were put to death in
Chelmno April 1942. So my heart missed a beat, when, after
many months I received a letter >from the man who made the initial
inquiry: Leon (Lajb) GOSTYNSKI. He was born
in Lodz, son of Jakob (same name as my grandfather...), son
of Szimon GOSTYNSKI. The man wrote to me that there was a
tradition in the family >from father to son, that the family
originated in ...Gombin... So we must be related but we don't
know how. Moyzesz GOSTYNSKI (my ggrandfather) was a butcher in Gombin.
Through marriage certificate located in the JRI database, I found out that he
was born in Gombin year 1857, father: Loyne (?) and mother Ryfka.
from past research I know he had a brother: Dawid GOSTYNSKI.
Moyzesz GOSTYNSKI descendants (all perished in the Holocaust without
leaving any traces) were: Jakob GOSTYNSKI (my grandfather, murdered in chelmno),
Perla ZAWIERUCHA b. 1890 in Gombin, (transported >from Drancy to Auschwitz
24.6.1942), Ryfka Lea SANICKI (perished in Chelmno - see:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/chaja/SANICKI.HTM
) and unknown daughter who married the baker of ZAKROCZYM and her name is still a
mystery to me.

Back to the research for Dan Gostynski. More information supplied
by Leon GOSTYNSKI:
The 2 old baby boy was delivered to Polish farmers >from the village near Sandomierz,
about 100 miles South of Warsaw, on the border of Galicia and Congress Poland.
This happened in 1942, when Dan's parents, Magda and Szymon run away from
Ghetto Lodz. They delivered the boy to a Polish farmer near Zawichost,
near Sandomierz. The information was supplied by another cousin, who run away
together with the couple, named Rozenfeld. Leon believes he is still alive, under
false identity, in Poland.

After the war, the original Polish population of the village was
replaced, and the people were transferred to other places
in western Poland.

*Does anyone know about this transfer of population and when and why
this happened.

* Where is Zawichost, as I couldn't locate in the map.

* May anyone have a suggestion how to continue the search of the little boy Dan
GOSTYNSKI, now reaching 60, desperately searched by his uncle for tens of years?

* Does anyone know of any other GOSTYNSKI
still alive who were born in Poland?

Any help will be highly appreciated, Toda Raba,

Ada Holtzman
www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


Re: Martindale-Hubbell law directory #general

Bert Lazerow <lazer@...>
 

It is true that Martindale-Hubbell law directory limits the information
it provides to the lawyer's address, year of birth, year of admission to the
bar, undergrad and law school, but with that information you can:
1. Write to the state bar of the state to ask for application forms
filed (subject to privacy rules); and
2. Write to the alumni offices of the universities concerned, which
will have access to academic records, registration documents, and oc-
casionally periodic contributions to reunion books showing what has hap-
pened to the person over the years, along with the names of children and
spouses (preferably only one at a time).
Bert Lazerow
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Martindale-Hubbell law directory #general

Bert Lazerow <lazer@...>
 

It is true that Martindale-Hubbell law directory limits the information
it provides to the lawyer's address, year of birth, year of admission to the
bar, undergrad and law school, but with that information you can:
1. Write to the state bar of the state to ask for application forms
filed (subject to privacy rules); and
2. Write to the alumni offices of the universities concerned, which
will have access to academic records, registration documents, and oc-
casionally periodic contributions to reunion books showing what has hap-
pened to the person over the years, along with the names of children and
spouses (preferably only one at a time).
Bert Lazerow
San Diego, CA


Synagogue in Liverpool #general

Scott Mendelsohn <mendelsam6@...>
 

Was wondering if anyone knows what the names of the synagogues in
Liverpool are or where I could get my hands on the information? Would
appreciate any information.Thank you.
Anita Mendelsohn

MODERATOR NOTE: Please consult the Discussion Group Archives at our
website for some information around this topic.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Synagogue in Liverpool #general

Scott Mendelsohn <mendelsam6@...>
 

Was wondering if anyone knows what the names of the synagogues in
Liverpool are or where I could get my hands on the information? Would
appreciate any information.Thank you.
Anita Mendelsohn

MODERATOR NOTE: Please consult the Discussion Group Archives at our
website for some information around this topic.


Searching: Chaim SAMUELS from Senjy #general

BERENFIELD <berenfield@...>
 

Grandfather came to US around 1907. Fathers name was Meyer Henrich,
SAMUELS, Mothers name was Rose NAYHOUSE. Cannot find any records on SAMUELS >from Poland. Aunt Zena SAMUELS went to Israel in 1920s. Said name was Samuels.
Help
Linda B Stewart.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Chaim SAMUELS from Senjy #general

BERENFIELD <berenfield@...>
 

Grandfather came to US around 1907. Fathers name was Meyer Henrich,
SAMUELS, Mothers name was Rose NAYHOUSE. Cannot find any records on SAMUELS >from Poland. Aunt Zena SAMUELS went to Israel in 1920s. Said name was Samuels.
Help
Linda B Stewart.


Given name Eber #general

JJG613 <jjg613@...>
 

I recently encountered this name in the JRI-Poland database on the index to a
record of a possible relative. I've never seen it before. What other names is
Eber "related" to? Is it a diminutive or version of Abraham?

TIA,

Jonathan Goldmacher
New York, NY

Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
Towns Leader
Przasnysz & Pultusk Shtetl CO-OPs


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given name Eber #general

JJG613 <jjg613@...>
 

I recently encountered this name in the JRI-Poland database on the index to a
record of a possible relative. I've never seen it before. What other names is
Eber "related" to? Is it a diminutive or version of Abraham?

TIA,

Jonathan Goldmacher
New York, NY

Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
Towns Leader
Przasnysz & Pultusk Shtetl CO-OPs


Bogus Virus Warnings #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

How you can pick up a virus in your computer:

Advice, IN ALL CASES: do not run or double click on any e-mail
attachment
that ends in .exe or .com or .bat UNLESS you either check it with a
virus scanner or completely trust the sender, or both.

This info is >from a computer engineer."To infect, a virus must be l.)
executable program i.e. "anything .exe" "anything .com" "anything.bat"

and 2) you must RUN IT on your computer."

Those commands come >from PC owners.

Joan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bogus Virus Warnings #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

How you can pick up a virus in your computer:

Advice, IN ALL CASES: do not run or double click on any e-mail
attachment
that ends in .exe or .com or .bat UNLESS you either check it with a
virus scanner or completely trust the sender, or both.

This info is >from a computer engineer."To infect, a virus must be l.)
executable program i.e. "anything .exe" "anything .com" "anything.bat"

and 2) you must RUN IT on your computer."

Those commands come >from PC owners.

Joan


Uncle-niece marriages #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Do you know why Jewish law permitted the marriage of uncles and nieces but not
aunts and nephews? My great aunt Goldie Cooper came >from Siauliai along with
her uncle Ben Lopate. The decided to get married after they had arrived in
Chicago. In order to do so they had to "run away." I'm trying to find them.
They had two daughters who were very bright, but neither one had children. It
seems that because of Jewish law the whole family has disappeared without a
trace.
Were these marriages common? Hennie Greenland Omaha, NE
The answer is quite simple. Uncle-niece marriage-- but not aunt-nephew
marriage -- is permitted in Jewish law because the Bible says so by
implication, namely by explicitly prohibiting the latter but not the
former! An aunt is listed among the long list of incestuous
relationships, but a niece is not. See Leviticus chapter 18.

Even though permitted, I don't think uncle-niece marriage has been very
widespread -- I never personally met even one one such couple -- but it
does happen occasionally. Oddly enough, in the state where I live, Rhode
Island, there has been a law on the books since the 19th century affording
an exception to the normal consanguinity rules in the General Laws of Rhode
Island. (I discovered this when working in a prior incarnation as a special
assistant attorney general for the State of Rhode Island about 20 years
ago!) The RI General Laws of course forbid aunt-nephew and uncle-niece
marriage alike -- but the proviso specifically exempts Jews >from any
incest prohibition in the general laws that is NOT found in the Jewish
consanguinity laws.

I suppose this law may have been passed when an influential R.I. Jew who
wanted to marry his niece pointed out to the legislature that Jewish law
permits this, and asked for an exemption.

I do know of at least one case of a Jewish uncle and niece living in Canada
who actually came to Providence to get married, in order to take advantage
of the R.I. proviso.
JRW


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Uncle-niece marriages #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Do you know why Jewish law permitted the marriage of uncles and nieces but not
aunts and nephews? My great aunt Goldie Cooper came >from Siauliai along with
her uncle Ben Lopate. The decided to get married after they had arrived in
Chicago. In order to do so they had to "run away." I'm trying to find them.
They had two daughters who were very bright, but neither one had children. It
seems that because of Jewish law the whole family has disappeared without a
trace.
Were these marriages common? Hennie Greenland Omaha, NE
The answer is quite simple. Uncle-niece marriage-- but not aunt-nephew
marriage -- is permitted in Jewish law because the Bible says so by
implication, namely by explicitly prohibiting the latter but not the
former! An aunt is listed among the long list of incestuous
relationships, but a niece is not. See Leviticus chapter 18.

Even though permitted, I don't think uncle-niece marriage has been very
widespread -- I never personally met even one one such couple -- but it
does happen occasionally. Oddly enough, in the state where I live, Rhode
Island, there has been a law on the books since the 19th century affording
an exception to the normal consanguinity rules in the General Laws of Rhode
Island. (I discovered this when working in a prior incarnation as a special
assistant attorney general for the State of Rhode Island about 20 years
ago!) The RI General Laws of course forbid aunt-nephew and uncle-niece
marriage alike -- but the proviso specifically exempts Jews >from any
incest prohibition in the general laws that is NOT found in the Jewish
consanguinity laws.

I suppose this law may have been passed when an influential R.I. Jew who
wanted to marry his niece pointed out to the legislature that Jewish law
permits this, and asked for an exemption.

I do know of at least one case of a Jewish uncle and niece living in Canada
who actually came to Providence to get married, in order to take advantage
of the R.I. proviso.
JRW


* Hungarian gazetteer #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

I found a site:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/talma/cimlap.htm

which sells a very comprehensive Hungarian gazetteer, containing location
names in all languages of the old Hungarian Empire. Have a peek of the
summary at:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/talma/tartalom.htm
(but it is in Hungarian).

The book's name is
HELYSE'GNE'V-AZONOSI'TO' SZO'TA'R
Author: Lelkes Gyo:rgy

I hope you find this useful
Tom


Hungary SIG #Hungary * Hungarian gazetteer #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

I found a site:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/talma/cimlap.htm

which sells a very comprehensive Hungarian gazetteer, containing location
names in all languages of the old Hungarian Empire. Have a peek of the
summary at:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/talma/tartalom.htm
(but it is in Hungarian).

The book's name is
HELYSE'GNE'V-AZONOSI'TO' SZO'TA'R
Author: Lelkes Gyo:rgy

I hope you find this useful
Tom


Occupations #hungary

Patricia J. Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Someone once sent a list of Hungarian occupations translated into English.
I didn't make a copy of it at the time, but I now find I would like very
much to have it. Can anyone resend it to me? Thanks very much.

Patjw28@interaccess.com

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Occupations #hungary

Patricia J. Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Someone once sent a list of Hungarian occupations translated into English.
I didn't make a copy of it at the time, but I now find I would like very
much to have it. Can anyone resend it to me? Thanks very much.

Patjw28@interaccess.com

mod.- Review the h-sig web site for this information. Also, all h-sig postings since July 1998 can be searched via Jewishgen. To get to the proper site click on archives >from the main page of the h-sig.


Re: Question and offer #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

Translation question - what is the meaning of:

A Kinizsi Szazas (accent marks over both "a"s) Teljesitoi
(accent marks over both "i"s)


I have a copy of the Labor Battallion book and I will be happy to do
lookups. Also the Jewish Genealogy Society of Los Angeles has a copy in
its library which is maintained at the Mormon Family History Library in
West LA. It's out on the shelf for anyone to use.

Debbi


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Question and offer #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

Translation question - what is the meaning of:

A Kinizsi Szazas (accent marks over both "a"s) Teljesitoi
(accent marks over both "i"s)


I have a copy of the Labor Battallion book and I will be happy to do
lookups. Also the Jewish Genealogy Society of Los Angeles has a copy in
its library which is maintained at the Mormon Family History Library in
West LA. It's out on the shelf for anyone to use.

Debbi