Don Siegelman is NOT Jewish...he is Catholic. Not aware of any Jewish
ancestry. HOWEVER, his wife is very Jewish, born Lori Allen in Birmingham.
Lori was Bat Mitzvahed at Temple Beth-El in B'ham, daughter Dana in
Montgomery, and son Joseph will be Bar Mitzvahed in Montgomery, while his
father is serving as governor! I grew up with Lori and her sister
Karen...our parents were very close friends.
As an aside: Don's opponent in the Democratic primary, Lenora Pate, is not
Jewish, but is married to Steve Brickman, a Jewish attorney who sits on the
board of every Jewish agency in the city, and she is a life member of Hadassah!

Don's name WAS pronounced "Seeegleman", now it is "Siggleman"...some think
that is his handler's recommendation to keep >from sounding so Jewish! Who
knows? Religion was NOT an issue in our elections, and he won by a landslide!

Janet Goldstein Reagan
Birmingham, Alabama

Don Siegelman is NOT Jewish...he is Catholic. Not aware of any Jewish
ancestry. HOWEVER, his wife is very Jewish, born Lori Allen in Birmingham.
Lori was Bat Mitzvahed at Temple Beth-El in B'ham, daughter Dana in
Montgomery, and son Joseph will be Bar Mitzvahed in Montgomery, while his
father is serving as governor! I grew up with Lori and her sister
Karen...our parents were very close friends.
As an aside: Don's opponent in the Democratic primary, Lenora Pate, is not
Jewish, but is married to Steve Brickman, a Jewish attorney who sits on the
board of every Jewish agency in the city, and she is a life member of Hadassah!

Don's name WAS pronounced "Seeegleman", now it is "Siggleman"...some think
that is his handler's recommendation to keep >from sounding so Jewish! Who
knows? Religion was NOT an issue in our elections, and he won by a landslide!

Janet Goldstein Reagan
Birmingham, Alabama

While doing a search thru the Discussion Group Archives for info regarding my
maternal gf Mnasha URETSKY, I found an old post by Andrea Robin Rosenblum saying
she was searching for ORETSKY. I'd like to get in touch with Andrea, but her
post is 4 years old and the e-mail address is no longer valid. I've tried
searching for her in various web-related databases, but the two other addresses
I found also bounced.

So if Andrea is reading this, please contact me. And if anybody is researching URETSKY or any
variant thereof, then please, please, PLEASE, contact me!

Neil K. Nelson

While doing a search thru the Discussion Group Archives for info regarding my
maternal gf Mnasha URETSKY, I found an old post by Andrea Robin Rosenblum saying
she was searching for ORETSKY. I'd like to get in touch with Andrea, but her
post is 4 years old and the e-mail address is no longer valid. I've tried
searching for her in various web-related databases, but the two other addresses
I found also bounced.

So if Andrea is reading this, please contact me. And if anybody is researching URETSKY or any
variant thereof, then please, please, PLEASE, contact me!

Neil K. Nelson

I assure you my interest is genealogical; I have little interest in
cooking <G>.

The discussion of recipes a few months back on this forum caused
a "lightbulb to go off in my head" when I came across an old cookbook
belonging to my mother. I would like to establish the source of this
book because I am puzzled, since we lived Perkasie, Pennsylvania
(a small town in eastern PA), as to how my mother came to possess
this book. I am wondering if one of the recipe contributors might have
been a relative.Unfortunately the cover is missing and I cannot find any
reference to the source of this book.

It appears to have been compiled by women belonging to some
organization or synagogue, for fundraising purposes, with the recipes
having been contributed by these women. It is divided into sections as
follows (although I am not certain I have all the sections): Appetizers,
Soups, Vegtables, Fish, Milchig Macherie, Meats Poultry, Lotkas und
Knoedlach, Salads and Dressings, L'Chaim, Yontav Machulim, Eppes Essen.

The book appears to have originated in Wisconsin. There are several
advertisements within the book >from that area. [Sheboygan Badger
Liquer Co., 1313 Franklin St., Manitowoc, Wisconsin advertizing Welch's
Sweet Wine for 98 cents, etc.

I think I remember my mother using this book in the 1950's and possibly
earlier. It has a wide plastic spiral binding and I think that the missing
cover was blue and white.

If someone can identify the place, organization of origin, and time period
of this book I might be able to find a family link, and if anyone wishes me
to search for the name of a contributor to the book I will be glad to do so.

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA, US]

I assure you my interest is genealogical; I have little interest in
cooking <G>.

The discussion of recipes a few months back on this forum caused
a "lightbulb to go off in my head" when I came across an old cookbook
belonging to my mother. I would like to establish the source of this
book because I am puzzled, since we lived Perkasie, Pennsylvania
(a small town in eastern PA), as to how my mother came to possess
this book. I am wondering if one of the recipe contributors might have
been a relative.Unfortunately the cover is missing and I cannot find any
reference to the source of this book.

It appears to have been compiled by women belonging to some
organization or synagogue, for fundraising purposes, with the recipes
having been contributed by these women. It is divided into sections as
follows (although I am not certain I have all the sections): Appetizers,
Soups, Vegtables, Fish, Milchig Macherie, Meats Poultry, Lotkas und
Knoedlach, Salads and Dressings, L'Chaim, Yontav Machulim, Eppes Essen.

The book appears to have originated in Wisconsin. There are several
advertisements within the book >from that area. [Sheboygan Badger
Liquer Co., 1313 Franklin St., Manitowoc, Wisconsin advertizing Welch's
Sweet Wine for 98 cents, etc.

I think I remember my mother using this book in the 1950's and possibly
earlier. It has a wide plastic spiral binding and I think that the missing
cover was blue and white.

If someone can identify the place, organization of origin, and time period
of this book I might be able to find a family link, and if anyone wishes me
to search for the name of a contributor to the book I will be glad to do so.

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA, US]

I am trying to establish the family tree of Louis KYEZOR. He was born In
Frankfurt some time in the 1790s - ages
attributed to him in the various Censuses and elsewhere place his birth
year between 1793 and 1797. He came to England early in the 19th century.
He spent most of his life in London and Middlesex but the first reference
to him is in 1830 when he was in Doncaster, Yorkshire and the family were
in London >from the late 1830s. He was a watchmaker.

He had several children - Jessie (or Jessy or Jessey), Louis, George,
Henry, Matilda. It is possible his father was John KYEZOR who was aged 90
at the 1841 Census. His wife was Sophia Flora KYEZOR who died of apoplexy
in 1839 in London aged 36.

Louis KYEZOR senior eventually lived at Witton, now in Twickenham, where he
was active and a local benefactor. He came to prominence in 1869 when he
was murdered. He was buried at Bancroft Road cemetery (in the same road as
the Tower Hamlets Local History Library). Unfortunately the cemetery was
bombed during the war so it is not possible to view the headstone. Moreover
the records of the cemetery were also lost in the bombing of the Western
Synagogue.

His son Louis, also a watchmaker, had 10 children, most of whom I have
been unable to trace except for George (1857-1924). I am told that Louis
senior's son Henry lived in Hounslow.

His son Louis died in 1887 aged 54; one of his daughters became Mrs Henry
HEILBRON. This was probably Matilda, who inherited most of his estate. A
grand-daughter was a gifted child musician, Mademoiselle Sophia Flora
HEILBRON.

I should very much like to know more about the family. I have no knowledge
of any of them after George's death in 1924. It is possible that the name
was changed by some of them at some point.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Harold Pollins
Oxford

I am trying to establish the family tree of Louis KYEZOR. He was born In
Frankfurt some time in the 1790s - ages
attributed to him in the various Censuses and elsewhere place his birth
year between 1793 and 1797. He came to England early in the 19th century.
He spent most of his life in London and Middlesex but the first reference
to him is in 1830 when he was in Doncaster, Yorkshire and the family were
in London >from the late 1830s. He was a watchmaker.

He had several children - Jessie (or Jessy or Jessey), Louis, George,
Henry, Matilda. It is possible his father was John KYEZOR who was aged 90
at the 1841 Census. His wife was Sophia Flora KYEZOR who died of apoplexy
in 1839 in London aged 36.

Louis KYEZOR senior eventually lived at Witton, now in Twickenham, where he
was active and a local benefactor. He came to prominence in 1869 when he
was murdered. He was buried at Bancroft Road cemetery (in the same road as
the Tower Hamlets Local History Library). Unfortunately the cemetery was
bombed during the war so it is not possible to view the headstone. Moreover
the records of the cemetery were also lost in the bombing of the Western
Synagogue.

His son Louis, also a watchmaker, had 10 children, most of whom I have
been unable to trace except for George (1857-1924). I am told that Louis
senior's son Henry lived in Hounslow.

His son Louis died in 1887 aged 54; one of his daughters became Mrs Henry
HEILBRON. This was probably Matilda, who inherited most of his estate. A
grand-daughter was a gifted child musician, Mademoiselle Sophia Flora
HEILBRON.

I should very much like to know more about the family. I have no knowledge
of any of them after George's death in 1924. It is possible that the name
was changed by some of them at some point.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Harold Pollins
Oxford

Someone( and I have miss-laid the letter) kindly wrote to me about
Silversteins salt beef bar. They said that they had seen picture of it
in a copy of the Spring board book of the East End of London.
I have been unable to obtain the copy of the book that I had bought my
grandmother, as some (un- history minded) member of the family gave it
away to a charity shop when Grandma went into the care home! (not my
favorite family member right now!) Is there a Genner out there with a
copy of the book so they can send me the
ISBN number and date of publication. As it is a local history
interest book, and as Manchester is not in the same locality as the
East end of London I am having trouble locating a copy.
Please reply privately to my business mail address.
By the way I appoligise for not responding to much mail over the next
10 days as I am off to hospital for an operation on my neck.
thank you for your help in advance

Corinne Silver
Manchester U.K.

Someone( and I have miss-laid the letter) kindly wrote to me about
Silversteins salt beef bar. They said that they had seen picture of it
in a copy of the Spring board book of the East End of London.
I have been unable to obtain the copy of the book that I had bought my
grandmother, as some (un- history minded) member of the family gave it
away to a charity shop when Grandma went into the care home! (not my
favorite family member right now!) Is there a Genner out there with a
copy of the book so they can send me the
ISBN number and date of publication. As it is a local history
interest book, and as Manchester is not in the same locality as the
East end of London I am having trouble locating a copy.
Please reply privately to my business mail address.
By the way I appoligise for not responding to much mail over the next
10 days as I am off to hospital for an operation on my neck.
thank you for your help in advance

Corinne Silver
Manchester U.K.

I have only been able to find the Israeli Phone Book on the internet in Hebrew.
Do you know of an English version on-line?

Sue Schudson
San Diego, CA

searching: Leibovitz, Schudson, Kossacov, Kulzsan, Demarski, Svedelski

I have only been able to find the Israeli Phone Book on the internet in Hebrew.
Do you know of an English version on-line?

Sue Schudson
San Diego, CA

searching: Leibovitz, Schudson, Kossacov, Kulzsan, Demarski, Svedelski

"there were many other lists but I ran out of time and quarters. Wouldn't
it be great to have these lists on the net. According to the cover,
there were 60,000 names on the various lists."

Register of Jewish Survivors
Lists of Jews rescued in Different European Countries
Jerusalem 1945
Published by the Jewish Agency for Palestine/Search Bureau for Missing
Relatives.
Gabriela Svatos E-mail:
gsvatos@torfree.net or gsvatos@hotmail.com

regarding the lists Gabi mentioned:
How about we enter them for database searchs in a manner similar to the work
done by the JRI-Poland group. I cannot offer to lead but would be willing to
be a data entry person.
Linda Rakoff, Newton, MA

"there were many other lists but I ran out of time and quarters. Wouldn't
it be great to have these lists on the net. According to the cover,
there were 60,000 names on the various lists."

Register of Jewish Survivors
Lists of Jews rescued in Different European Countries
Jerusalem 1945
Published by the Jewish Agency for Palestine/Search Bureau for Missing
Relatives.
Gabriela Svatos E-mail:
gsvatos@torfree.net or gsvatos@hotmail.com

regarding the lists Gabi mentioned:
How about we enter them for database searchs in a manner similar to the work
done by the JRI-Poland group. I cannot offer to lead but would be willing to
be a data entry person.
Linda Rakoff, Newton, MA

To Tom Venetianer Jan 8.
I read a long chapter in the Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume He-Ir page
1090 about the emancipation of the Hungarian Jews between 1867-1914.
Eleanor Bien had asked about the reference of the Act of Emancipation
regarding requirement to adopt surnames. There was no mention about surname
adoption in the above chapter.

I believe that this happened during the reign of Joseph II. Emperor of Austria-Hungary.
He was the son of Maria Theresa, Empress of Austria. Joseph II. introduced
many reforms during his reign. He ordered the Jewish population to adopt
surnames. This was the main reason why Jews adopted German names.
Goldberg, Rosenberg, Gruenbaum etc.

Magda Lapedus

To Tom Venetianer Jan 8.
I read a long chapter in the Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume He-Ir page
1090 about the emancipation of the Hungarian Jews between 1867-1914.
Eleanor Bien had asked about the reference of the Act of Emancipation
regarding requirement to adopt surnames. There was no mention about surname
adoption in the above chapter.

I believe that this happened during the reign of Joseph II. Emperor of Austria-Hungary.
He was the son of Maria Theresa, Empress of Austria. Joseph II. introduced
many reforms during his reign. He ordered the Jewish population to adopt
surnames. This was the main reason why Jews adopted German names.
Goldberg, Rosenberg, Gruenbaum etc.

Magda Lapedus

According to the January 15, 1999 issue of -Uj Elet-, official organ of Hungarian
Federation of Jewrish Communities (MAZSIHISZ), the Museum of Hungarian
Jewry was given a list of UJPEST martyrs, which contain ca. 20 000 names.

It would be useful to make this list publicly available, for those of us who are
searching for relatives in Ujpest.
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary

ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com

According to the January 15, 1999 issue of -Uj Elet-, official organ of Hungarian
Federation of Jewrish Communities (MAZSIHISZ), the Museum of Hungarian
Jewry was given a list of UJPEST martyrs, which contain ca. 20 000 names.

It would be useful to make this list publicly available, for those of us who are
searching for relatives in Ujpest.
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary

ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com

I am looking for Anna Tolnai, a painter, the sister of my paternal
grandmother, Elizbet. Anna lived in Budapest and was lover of a gentile man.
Both went to some concetration camp and died there. Thanks for any
information. Shalom, Sarah Achene

mod.- For those of you who may have needed evidence that censorship here is kept to a minimum, let the above message be that proof. I once walked by my wife's desk where a Danielle Steele book was left open to a page where the first sentence read "and she was the lover of a gentle man". LS

I am looking for Anna Tolnai, a painter, the sister of my paternal
grandmother, Elizbet. Anna lived in Budapest and was lover of a gentile man.
Both went to some concetration camp and died there. Thanks for any
information. Shalom, Sarah Achene

mod.- For those of you who may have needed evidence that censorship here is kept to a minimum, let the above message be that proof. I once walked by my wife's desk where a Danielle Steele book was left open to a page where the first sentence read "and she was the lover of a gentle man". LS