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Newspaper #general

David W. Harris <dharris1@...>
 

A distant ancestor of mine, Moses HOROWITZ, apparently tried his hand at
publishing a newpaper written in Romanian and Hebrew. About 1862 - 1868,
in Iasi (Jassy) Romania, he tried to put out the newspaper called Timpul
(Time). He was unsuccessful and eventually moved on to other things.

I am trying to find a way to get a copy of the newspaper. Any ideas?
Thanks,
---------------
David W. Harris
Silver Spring, MD
<dharris1@erols.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Newspaper #general

David W. Harris <dharris1@...>
 

A distant ancestor of mine, Moses HOROWITZ, apparently tried his hand at
publishing a newpaper written in Romanian and Hebrew. About 1862 - 1868,
in Iasi (Jassy) Romania, he tried to put out the newspaper called Timpul
(Time). He was unsuccessful and eventually moved on to other things.

I am trying to find a way to get a copy of the newspaper. Any ideas?
Thanks,
---------------
David W. Harris
Silver Spring, MD
<dharris1@erols.com>


jewish emigration to urals #general

molly gordy <mgordy@...>
 

Does anyone out there know anything about Jewish emigration >from the Pale
to the Urals? Was it substantial, or isolated? Was there a particular
period of interest? Any particular town? Were there enough Jews to make a
shtetl, or found a synagogue? I'm told my great-uncle moved there >from
Zhitomir in the early 20th century.

Molly Gordy, NYC.

mail to:mgordy@msn.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen jewish emigration to urals #general

molly gordy <mgordy@...>
 

Does anyone out there know anything about Jewish emigration >from the Pale
to the Urals? Was it substantial, or isolated? Was there a particular
period of interest? Any particular town? Were there enough Jews to make a
shtetl, or found a synagogue? I'm told my great-uncle moved there >from
Zhitomir in the early 20th century.

Molly Gordy, NYC.

mail to:mgordy@msn.com


Constantinople #general

Len Pincus <lennyp@...>
 

Heidi,
The longer I hang around JewishGen the more I learn.
My GGM Perel SILVERSTEIN MAZOR came through Constantinople in January 1921
on her way >from Odessa.She was 70 at the time and I thought that was pretty
brave for a little old lady. The ship manifest was so screwed up that I
finally found her listed as Pearl MAJOR. All else checked out so I knew it
was her. Thanks for clearing up the Odessa--Constantinople route.

Len Pincus
lennyp@pe.net

SPIEGEL >from Brody; MAZOR >from Odessa; PINCUS >from Odessa; PHILLIPS from
Lomza


Taurige and kelme #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Taurage (Tauroggen, Tavrik, Tavrig) on the River Jura. This is not to be
confused with Naistadt Tavrig ( Naumiestis Taurage), a different town on
the River Sehuste ( 21 miles away).

The other town is Kelme.

Saul Issroff

Subject: Tayrich and Kelem, Lithuania
From: bobmar37@aol.com (Bobmar37)
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:00:39 GMT

Does anyone know what these places are called now?

Marian Price
Round Rock, TX
Bobmar37@aol.com
--
Dr Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Constantinople #general

Len Pincus <lennyp@...>
 

Heidi,
The longer I hang around JewishGen the more I learn.
My GGM Perel SILVERSTEIN MAZOR came through Constantinople in January 1921
on her way >from Odessa.She was 70 at the time and I thought that was pretty
brave for a little old lady. The ship manifest was so screwed up that I
finally found her listed as Pearl MAJOR. All else checked out so I knew it
was her. Thanks for clearing up the Odessa--Constantinople route.

Len Pincus
lennyp@pe.net

SPIEGEL >from Brody; MAZOR >from Odessa; PINCUS >from Odessa; PHILLIPS from
Lomza


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Taurige and kelme #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Taurage (Tauroggen, Tavrik, Tavrig) on the River Jura. This is not to be
confused with Naistadt Tavrig ( Naumiestis Taurage), a different town on
the River Sehuste ( 21 miles away).

The other town is Kelme.

Saul Issroff

Subject: Tayrich and Kelem, Lithuania
From: bobmar37@aol.com (Bobmar37)
Date: 30 Jan 1999 19:00:39 GMT

Does anyone know what these places are called now?

Marian Price
Round Rock, TX
Bobmar37@aol.com
--
Dr Saul Issroff


Province or gubernia question #general

Linda Birnbaum <birnbaum@...>
 

I am trying to find the Russian links for my husband's grandmother,
Bella BERLIN SEFKIN.

We have found the Ship's manifest when Bella and her daughter came to
the US. It says that she came >from Rudnie, Russia. The name and
cmplete address of nearest relative or friend in country where she came
from lists her father, Joseph BERLIN, and for address lists (what I can
decipher) Rudnie, Hagiler(???) Russia.

The typed index card >from which we found the ship's manifest has this
as:
Rudnie, Megilew, Russia.

We always assumed that Bella came >from Rudnya, between Vitebsk and
Smolensk, close to what is now Belarus. What would be the meaning of
Hagiler or Megilew? The province?

Thanks.



Hyman (Chaim) BERLIN born 15 March 1894 in Rudnya
died May 1986 in New York
had a daughter named Blanche.



Bella always told us she was >from Rudnya, so I am not sure what Hagiler
or Megilew was, perhaps the province?

Let me know if these BERLINS sound like family to you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Province or gubernia question #general

Linda Birnbaum <birnbaum@...>
 

I am trying to find the Russian links for my husband's grandmother,
Bella BERLIN SEFKIN.

We have found the Ship's manifest when Bella and her daughter came to
the US. It says that she came >from Rudnie, Russia. The name and
cmplete address of nearest relative or friend in country where she came
from lists her father, Joseph BERLIN, and for address lists (what I can
decipher) Rudnie, Hagiler(???) Russia.

The typed index card >from which we found the ship's manifest has this
as:
Rudnie, Megilew, Russia.

We always assumed that Bella came >from Rudnya, between Vitebsk and
Smolensk, close to what is now Belarus. What would be the meaning of
Hagiler or Megilew? The province?

Thanks.



Hyman (Chaim) BERLIN born 15 March 1894 in Rudnya
died May 1986 in New York
had a daughter named Blanche.



Bella always told us she was >from Rudnya, so I am not sure what Hagiler
or Megilew was, perhaps the province?

Let me know if these BERLINS sound like family to you.


Do You Know of These Landtsmenshaften? #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

If have located two more family members at Mt. Hebron Cemetery,
Flushing, NY. Each of these relatives is buried in different burial
groups within the cemetery. Do you know anything about either of these
groups?

Society Czortkower Fraven

OR

Haliczer KUV Society

If you have any information on either of these groups, please contact me
privately at <rickiz@mindspring.com>

Thanks,
Ricki Zunk
Kendall, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do You Know of These Landtsmenshaften? #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

If have located two more family members at Mt. Hebron Cemetery,
Flushing, NY. Each of these relatives is buried in different burial
groups within the cemetery. Do you know anything about either of these
groups?

Society Czortkower Fraven

OR

Haliczer KUV Society

If you have any information on either of these groups, please contact me
privately at <rickiz@mindspring.com>

Thanks,
Ricki Zunk
Kendall, FL


Re: Meaning of the word VEL #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

The overwhelming consensus of everyone responding to my posting is that VEL
means OR or AKA, as in Micha VEL Michael.
Thanks to everyone.

David Goldman
davic@erols.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Thread closed.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaning of the word VEL #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

The overwhelming consensus of everyone responding to my posting is that VEL
means OR or AKA, as in Micha VEL Michael.
Thanks to everyone.

David Goldman
davic@erols.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Thread closed.


What is VEL? #general

Lauren B. Davis (DDL OMNI) <lbd@...>
 

David Goldman wrote:

On a couple of occasions I have seen the word VEL between two names
originating in Poland. Does anyone know what this means?
Thanks,
This is my favorite question 8-)
"vel" is the latin word for "also known as" and indicates that
the person(s) in the record was known by more than one name.
It was more common in certain areas of Poland than others.
You must look at records for BOTH surnames. If the name you
are seeing is SMITH vel GREEN, you may also find records for
GREEN vel SMITH, just SMITH, and/or just GREEN. Not all branches
of the family may have used both surnames.

Look at the JewishGen infofile "Alternate Surnames in Russian
Poland." There was also an extensive article by the same name
in the summer 1996 issue of Avotaynu.

Lauren


Lauren B. Eisenberg Davis
merlyn@access.digex.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What is VEL? #general

Lauren B. Davis (DDL OMNI) <lbd@...>
 

David Goldman wrote:

On a couple of occasions I have seen the word VEL between two names
originating in Poland. Does anyone know what this means?
Thanks,
This is my favorite question 8-)
"vel" is the latin word for "also known as" and indicates that
the person(s) in the record was known by more than one name.
It was more common in certain areas of Poland than others.
You must look at records for BOTH surnames. If the name you
are seeing is SMITH vel GREEN, you may also find records for
GREEN vel SMITH, just SMITH, and/or just GREEN. Not all branches
of the family may have used both surnames.

Look at the JewishGen infofile "Alternate Surnames in Russian
Poland." There was also an extensive article by the same name
in the summer 1996 issue of Avotaynu.

Lauren


Lauren B. Eisenberg Davis
merlyn@access.digex.net


Meaning of the word VEL #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Subject: What is VEL?
From: David Goldman
>
On a couple of occasions I have seen the word VEL between two names
originating in Poland. Does anyone know what this means?
Yes. It's Latin for "or"

The term VEL is quite often found in legal or quasi-legal documents --
both in England and Europe, because it is medieval legal Latin -- which was
used all over Europe in the middle Ages.

Thus, for instance: " Micha VEL Michael" would mean the person's name
was either Micha OR Michael.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


Re: What is VEL? #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

David Goldman <davic@pop.erols.com> wrote:

On a couple of occasions I have seen the word VEL between two names
originating in Poland. Does anyone know what this means?
"vel" is the Latin word meaning 'also known as'. It was used
between alternate surnames in Polish civil records.

See Chapter 1 of Beider's "A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from
the Kingdom of Poland", or see Lauren Davis' article "Alternate
Surnames in Russian Poland" in "Avotaynu", Summer 1996.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Meaning of the word VEL #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Subject: What is VEL?
From: David Goldman
>
On a couple of occasions I have seen the word VEL between two names
originating in Poland. Does anyone know what this means?
Yes. It's Latin for "or"

The term VEL is quite often found in legal or quasi-legal documents --
both in England and Europe, because it is medieval legal Latin -- which was
used all over Europe in the middle Ages.

Thus, for instance: " Micha VEL Michael" would mean the person's name
was either Micha OR Michael.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What is VEL? #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

David Goldman <davic@pop.erols.com> wrote:

On a couple of occasions I have seen the word VEL between two names
originating in Poland. Does anyone know what this means?
"vel" is the Latin word meaning 'also known as'. It was used
between alternate surnames in Polish civil records.

See Chapter 1 of Beider's "A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from
the Kingdom of Poland", or see Lauren Davis' article "Alternate
Surnames in Russian Poland" in "Avotaynu", Summer 1996.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>