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Re: Movie on Nagyvarad during the Holocaust #hungary

MGS18@...
 

Susan,

WOuld you post the name and contact information of the Hungarian video
library-I'd like to find out what titles they carry.

Mindy Soclof


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Movie on Nagyvarad during the Holocaust #hungary

MGS18@...
 

Susan,

WOuld you post the name and contact information of the Hungarian video
library-I'd like to find out what titles they carry.

Mindy Soclof


Re: latvia digest: January 30, 1999 #latvia

Shirley B. Radding <sradding@...>
 

Latvia SIG digest wrote:

Latvia SIG Digest for Saturday, January 30, 1999.

1. Regarding the database
2. Purchase of Microfilms
3. Liepaja 1930 business owners' list

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Regarding the database
From: Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:06:39 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

I have answered everyone's letter that I have so far received personally, instead
of doing it via the SIG. I will keep you posted, all of you, just as soon as we
know what sort of responses we are getting and if we will be able to pull this
off. If there are only a half a dozen people interested, I don't think we can
manage the purchase. I hope that more of you are just lurking out there waiting
to jump on the band wagon! Come on! You ARE the bandwagon!! Let's get this
thing up and running!

Martha
--
Martha LEVINSON Lev-Zion >from Israel <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>

Researching:
LEVINSON (Goldingen, Latvia)
LIEBERTHAL (Latvia/Lithuania) Anyplace in the world.
HIM(M)ELHOCH (Latvia) Anyplace in the world.
LEVOR/LEFOR (Barchfeld, Germany) Anyplace in the world.
ROTHSCHILD (Bamberg, Germany)
BERNET/BARNET (Frensdorf/Bamberg, Bavaria - Germany)
HIMMELREICH (Frensdorf/Bamberg, Bavaria - Germany)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Purchase of Microfilms
From: Marion Werle <werle@pacificnet.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:06:01 -0800
X-Message-Number: 2

I have received a couple of e-mails concerning the purchase of the Latvian
microfilms, both of which agree with my position. I am 100% in favor of
indexing these records, but equally opposed to purchasing the films, which
are available for free at the LDS libraries (and I understand that the LDS
has no presence in Israel).

I should point out that only some of these records are lists of Jews. When
I first became aware of them, I randomly obtained two films >from Dvinsk
(based on the LDS catalog listing, before I had Kahlile Mehr's list), and
as I went through them, there were no Jewish names. It therefore strikes
me as a colossal waste of money to purchase films available elsewhere for
free, only some of which contain data that we want.

We are currently in negotiations with JewishGen to formalize the SIG's
relationship with them. As it stands, we will probably obtain non-profit
status under the JewishGen umbrella, but in any case, we will be able to
work with them to set up a search engine for any future databases. My
suggestion would be to start small, with one or two of the films, get some
of the records translated, determine the database layout (not a simple
task--just ask the LitvakSIG), and see where we are. I would also suggest
that we re-examine some of the data we already have (e.g., 1897 census
records, both with the names of our relatives and any others who might
happen to be on the same page) and consider it for inclusion as well.

I would again point out that we need somebody to chair this project,
somebody who has a good idea of the issues and complexities involved in
undertaking such a project. I would invite David Hoffman of the LitvakSIG
(who is also on this list) to post a message about that SIG's experience,
and some of the pitfalls and issues that they have encountered.

Regards,

Marion Werle
President, Latvia SIG

Visit the Latvia SIG web page: <http://www.jewishgen.org/latvia>

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Liepaja 1930 business owners' list
From: PaulJamesB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:17:37 EST
X-Message-Number: 3

I would like your opinions about a 1930 business owners' list that I have put
on the web. It is not linked to my web page and not listed anywhere at this
point. This list is a set of scans for approximately 120 pages of a document
that lists most of the business owners in Liepaja in 1930. The listings
include the full business owners' name, father's first name, type of business,
and business address. It is in Latvian with a complete explanation in the
introduction.

Please send all feedback to:
pberkay@aol.com

Here is the link:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/4730/

Thanks,

Paul Berkay

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I might be able to help a little on the purchase of the films. My
retirement just dropped a lot, but maybe I can help a little.

Shirley
sradding@att.net


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: January 30, 1999 #latvia

Shirley B. Radding <sradding@...>
 

Latvia SIG digest wrote:

Latvia SIG Digest for Saturday, January 30, 1999.

1. Regarding the database
2. Purchase of Microfilms
3. Liepaja 1930 business owners' list

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Regarding the database
From: Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:06:39 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

I have answered everyone's letter that I have so far received personally, instead
of doing it via the SIG. I will keep you posted, all of you, just as soon as we
know what sort of responses we are getting and if we will be able to pull this
off. If there are only a half a dozen people interested, I don't think we can
manage the purchase. I hope that more of you are just lurking out there waiting
to jump on the band wagon! Come on! You ARE the bandwagon!! Let's get this
thing up and running!

Martha
--
Martha LEVINSON Lev-Zion >from Israel <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>

Researching:
LEVINSON (Goldingen, Latvia)
LIEBERTHAL (Latvia/Lithuania) Anyplace in the world.
HIM(M)ELHOCH (Latvia) Anyplace in the world.
LEVOR/LEFOR (Barchfeld, Germany) Anyplace in the world.
ROTHSCHILD (Bamberg, Germany)
BERNET/BARNET (Frensdorf/Bamberg, Bavaria - Germany)
HIMMELREICH (Frensdorf/Bamberg, Bavaria - Germany)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Purchase of Microfilms
From: Marion Werle <werle@pacificnet.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:06:01 -0800
X-Message-Number: 2

I have received a couple of e-mails concerning the purchase of the Latvian
microfilms, both of which agree with my position. I am 100% in favor of
indexing these records, but equally opposed to purchasing the films, which
are available for free at the LDS libraries (and I understand that the LDS
has no presence in Israel).

I should point out that only some of these records are lists of Jews. When
I first became aware of them, I randomly obtained two films >from Dvinsk
(based on the LDS catalog listing, before I had Kahlile Mehr's list), and
as I went through them, there were no Jewish names. It therefore strikes
me as a colossal waste of money to purchase films available elsewhere for
free, only some of which contain data that we want.

We are currently in negotiations with JewishGen to formalize the SIG's
relationship with them. As it stands, we will probably obtain non-profit
status under the JewishGen umbrella, but in any case, we will be able to
work with them to set up a search engine for any future databases. My
suggestion would be to start small, with one or two of the films, get some
of the records translated, determine the database layout (not a simple
task--just ask the LitvakSIG), and see where we are. I would also suggest
that we re-examine some of the data we already have (e.g., 1897 census
records, both with the names of our relatives and any others who might
happen to be on the same page) and consider it for inclusion as well.

I would again point out that we need somebody to chair this project,
somebody who has a good idea of the issues and complexities involved in
undertaking such a project. I would invite David Hoffman of the LitvakSIG
(who is also on this list) to post a message about that SIG's experience,
and some of the pitfalls and issues that they have encountered.

Regards,

Marion Werle
President, Latvia SIG

Visit the Latvia SIG web page: <http://www.jewishgen.org/latvia>

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Liepaja 1930 business owners' list
From: PaulJamesB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:17:37 EST
X-Message-Number: 3

I would like your opinions about a 1930 business owners' list that I have put
on the web. It is not linked to my web page and not listed anywhere at this
point. This list is a set of scans for approximately 120 pages of a document
that lists most of the business owners in Liepaja in 1930. The listings
include the full business owners' name, father's first name, type of business,
and business address. It is in Latvian with a complete explanation in the
introduction.

Please send all feedback to:
pberkay@aol.com

Here is the link:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/4730/

Thanks,

Paul Berkay

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I might be able to help a little on the purchase of the films. My
retirement just dropped a lot, but maybe I can help a little.

Shirley
sradding@att.net


Re: keidan lists appeal #lithuania

Harv1998@...
 

Ada

Put me down for $50-ish.

best wishes

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow,Scotland


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Re: keidan lists appeal #lithuania

Harv1998@...
 

Ada

Put me down for $50-ish.

best wishes

Harvey Kaplan

Glasgow,Scotland


Re: latvia digest: January 29, 1999 #latvia

Stanbloom@...
 

Where do we send money???


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: January 29, 1999 #latvia

Stanbloom@...
 

Where do we send money???


APPLICATION FORM FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN SLOVAKIA #hungary

Gary Binetter <gbin@...>
 

I can't find the website >from which one can copy the form requesting birth certificates and where the registries (archives) in Slovakia are listed. Can someone help?


Thank you,
Gary Binetter


Re: Uram #hungary

Neuman Forensic Accountants <NeumanForensicCA@...>
 

melody,

the notation on the gravestone specifies that Amsel was the daughter of
a man named aaron who was of the priestly class.

andrew neuman


Hungary SIG #Hungary APPLICATION FORM FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN SLOVAKIA #hungary

Gary Binetter <gbin@...>
 

I can't find the website >from which one can copy the form requesting birth certificates and where the registries (archives) in Slovakia are listed. Can someone help?


Thank you,
Gary Binetter


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Uram #hungary

Neuman Forensic Accountants <NeumanForensicCA@...>
 

melody,

the notation on the gravestone specifies that Amsel was the daughter of
a man named aaron who was of the priestly class.

andrew neuman


Re: The possibility of a huge database of Latvian Jews! #latvia

Larry and Shana Katz <apexsa@...>
 

Sunday, January 31, 1999

Dear Martha

I too would like to contribute - would you accept a smaller contribution ?
$100 US when converted into our currency ( Rand ) is a large sum of money
for us ? Please advise where & how to send the contribution.

Best regards
Shana Mink Katz

-----Original Message-----
From: Martha Lev-Zion [mailto:martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 3:01 PM
To: Latvia SIG
Subject: The possibility of a huge database of Latvian Jews!

Shalom to our fellow Latvian descendents ! We have some very
exciting news for you. A while back, a call for
forming a group to translate and try to get up an all Latvia
database of our ancestors went out. Only three of us took
up the cudgel: Paul Berkay, Bramie Lenhoff, and I. I
hesitate to put myself into the same catagory with these two
incredibly inventive men!

Paul has contacted the Herder Institute and to quote Paul
"they are willing to sell us the 77 rolls of microfilm,
including 7 rolls of the Livlaendishe Census for Riga, Lemsal,
and Schlock. It will cost approximately $3,000 to
$3,500 US dollars. This is the same film that the Mormons
have, but
the Mormons cut the rolls differently to make 133 rolls.

Herder Institute doesn't normally sell the film, and they
don't want to copy individual
pages. This offer may not last long. The only other group
that has this set
is the Mormons. They will only sell the entire set. "

Can we all get together and pitch in for the purchase of these
films as a SIG? That way, we could translate them, get
them into a database and put them in the Latvia SIG website.
Paul and Bramie are both very inventive, knowledgeable
and working hard at trying to get together as much information
on our ancestors as possible. They have several other
irons in the fire, but we believe that these microfilm would
be invaluable to us. Paul has been especially feverishly
nailing down straws and getting concrete results! If you would
like to see the list of microfilm available for us to
purchase, please set your internet site to

http://members.aol.com/pauljamesb/courindex.htm


I think you will be as excited as we are and want to help out
on this joint project. If you have admired the work of the
great and increasing databases of other SIGs, join us in
purchasing these films so that we can put up our own
wonderful database, and so we can all profit >from the
information on our families!

Martha Lev-Zion



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Latvia SIG #Latvia RE: The possibility of a huge database of Latvian Jews! #latvia

Larry and Shana Katz <apexsa@...>
 

Sunday, January 31, 1999

Dear Martha

I too would like to contribute - would you accept a smaller contribution ?
$100 US when converted into our currency ( Rand ) is a large sum of money
for us ? Please advise where & how to send the contribution.

Best regards
Shana Mink Katz

-----Original Message-----
From: Martha Lev-Zion [mailto:martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 3:01 PM
To: Latvia SIG
Subject: The possibility of a huge database of Latvian Jews!

Shalom to our fellow Latvian descendents ! We have some very
exciting news for you. A while back, a call for
forming a group to translate and try to get up an all Latvia
database of our ancestors went out. Only three of us took
up the cudgel: Paul Berkay, Bramie Lenhoff, and I. I
hesitate to put myself into the same catagory with these two
incredibly inventive men!

Paul has contacted the Herder Institute and to quote Paul
"they are willing to sell us the 77 rolls of microfilm,
including 7 rolls of the Livlaendishe Census for Riga, Lemsal,
and Schlock. It will cost approximately $3,000 to
$3,500 US dollars. This is the same film that the Mormons
have, but
the Mormons cut the rolls differently to make 133 rolls.

Herder Institute doesn't normally sell the film, and they
don't want to copy individual
pages. This offer may not last long. The only other group
that has this set
is the Mormons. They will only sell the entire set. "

Can we all get together and pitch in for the purchase of these
films as a SIG? That way, we could translate them, get
them into a database and put them in the Latvia SIG website.
Paul and Bramie are both very inventive, knowledgeable
and working hard at trying to get together as much information
on our ancestors as possible. They have several other
irons in the fire, but we believe that these microfilm would
be invaluable to us. Paul has been especially feverishly
nailing down straws and getting concrete results! If you would
like to see the list of microfilm available for us to
purchase, please set your internet site to

http://members.aol.com/pauljamesb/courindex.htm


I think you will be as excited as we are and want to help out
on this joint project. If you have admired the work of the
great and increasing databases of other SIGs, join us in
purchasing these films so that we can put up our own
wonderful database, and so we can all profit >from the
information on our families!

Martha Lev-Zion



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Re: Jews in Lithuania and the Russian Language #lithuania

Zvi Griliches <grilic@...>
 

One should understand that being pious in Lithuania was not the same as
being ultra-othodox today in the US or Israel. Pious parents also often
wanted their children to succeed in the world and helped them to acquire
skills, including language skills.

The stamp maker and engraver Avner Griliches who lived in Vilno 1825-71
was very pious and studied in the Gaon's shtibl. His son, who presumably
started in a cheder, when a teenager was studying in the "official"
rabbinical school in Vilno and in the school for drawing. Both places
required some Russian. In 1868, at age 21, he applies to the Academy of
Arts in St.Petersburg and writes the letter of application in Russian, in
"his own hand". Later on, he will write letters on behalf of his father,
whose Russian at that point is apparently rudimentary. Many children who
started out in cheder would go on and learn Russian and math and other
subjects to allow them further study as doctors, dentists, and so on.
After all, this was the age of Haskala in Vilno.

ZG

ps. They are mentioned in the A.Cahan book.

Zvi Griliches grilic@kuznets.harvard.edu
Dept of Economics
Harvard University 617-495-2181
Cambridge, MA 02138 495-7730f


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Jews in Lithuania and the Russian Language #lithuania

Zvi Griliches <grilic@...>
 

One should understand that being pious in Lithuania was not the same as
being ultra-othodox today in the US or Israel. Pious parents also often
wanted their children to succeed in the world and helped them to acquire
skills, including language skills.

The stamp maker and engraver Avner Griliches who lived in Vilno 1825-71
was very pious and studied in the Gaon's shtibl. His son, who presumably
started in a cheder, when a teenager was studying in the "official"
rabbinical school in Vilno and in the school for drawing. Both places
required some Russian. In 1868, at age 21, he applies to the Academy of
Arts in St.Petersburg and writes the letter of application in Russian, in
"his own hand". Later on, he will write letters on behalf of his father,
whose Russian at that point is apparently rudimentary. Many children who
started out in cheder would go on and learn Russian and math and other
subjects to allow them further study as doctors, dentists, and so on.
After all, this was the age of Haskala in Vilno.

ZG

ps. They are mentioned in the A.Cahan book.

Zvi Griliches grilic@kuznets.harvard.edu
Dept of Economics
Harvard University 617-495-2181
Cambridge, MA 02138 495-7730f


yizkor book project Jan 1999 update #lithuania

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

Dear Latvia SIG members:

(MODERATOR'S NOTE: Let's assume they mean us!)


January 1999 has been an exceedingly busy month for the Yizkor Book Project
during which we attempted to make a dent in our backlog. We succeeded! The
following yizkor books and lists have been added to the Yizkor Book Project
web site and Database entries are now up-to-date.

February will also be a busy month as we anticipate adding some very large
projects.

New Projects now Online

-Bergen-Belsen and Terezin concentration camps: various lists of
Czechoslovak inmates at Bergen Belsen and Theresienstadt camps were donated
by Barb Heinrich.

-Kisvarda, Hungary: this site has been expanded with summaries of the towns
around Kisvarda translated and contributed by Peter Spiro

-Kolbuszowa, Poland: the entire English section of "Pinkas Kolbishov" was
scanned by Phyllis Goldberg and contributed by the Kolbuszowa District
Research Group.

-Lida, Belarus: the table of contents and necrology >from "Sefer Lida" were
translated and contributed by Ellen Sadove Renck.

-Lyakhovichi, Belaraus: this site has been expanded by several chapters
from "Lachowicze: Sefer Zicharon" contributed by Stephen Warshall.
-Mariampole, Lithuania: the translation of the necrology >from "Mariampole
al gedot ha-nahar Sheshupe" has been contributed by James M. Friedlander.

-Nuremberg, Germany: Gerhard Jochem of the Nuremberg City Archives has
contributed additions and corrections to the necrology as well as the
booklet for the exhibition on the printing of the Gedenbuch.

-Rokiskis, Lithuania: the site has been expanded by the memorial list
contributed by Steven Weiss

-Staneshti de Zhos, Ukraine: the site has been expanded with the addition
of a memorial list and list of survivors printed in the 20th anniversary
booklet and banquet journal contributed by Irv Osterer and with an
introduction by Lauren Scharf Azoulai.

-Tarnow, Poland: the name index in volume 1 of "Tarnow; kiyuma ve-hurbana
shel ir yehudit" has been transliterated and contributed by Carole Glick
Feinberg.

We are very pleased to announce that Lance Ackerfeld, who has with great
dedication and talent assisted Joyce in securing permissions >from the
landsmanschaftn in Israel, has accepted the newly created volunteer
position of Permissions Coordinator. His help has been invaluable and we
are delighted to publicly acknowledge his contributions to JewishGen's
Yizkor Book Project.

The database has now been updated with all submissions that have been
received over the past several months. If you have submitted data recently,
we suggest you search the database to make sure that it has been entered
accurately. In fact, it would be a good idea to search the database to
make sure all of your entries are correct and up-to-date. One technique
you can use to find all of your entries would search for your name, using a
"Global Text Search."

The database now contains 1313 contact entries, which now include
identification of the 77 chapters >from 62 yizkor books that are translated
in the 2nd edition of ">from a Ruined Garden."

Joyce Field, Translations Manager
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html

Martin Kessel, Project Manager http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/
Joyce Field
jfield@nlci.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania yizkor book project Jan 1999 update #lithuania

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

Dear Latvia SIG members:

(MODERATOR'S NOTE: Let's assume they mean us!)


January 1999 has been an exceedingly busy month for the Yizkor Book Project
during which we attempted to make a dent in our backlog. We succeeded! The
following yizkor books and lists have been added to the Yizkor Book Project
web site and Database entries are now up-to-date.

February will also be a busy month as we anticipate adding some very large
projects.

New Projects now Online

-Bergen-Belsen and Terezin concentration camps: various lists of
Czechoslovak inmates at Bergen Belsen and Theresienstadt camps were donated
by Barb Heinrich.

-Kisvarda, Hungary: this site has been expanded with summaries of the towns
around Kisvarda translated and contributed by Peter Spiro

-Kolbuszowa, Poland: the entire English section of "Pinkas Kolbishov" was
scanned by Phyllis Goldberg and contributed by the Kolbuszowa District
Research Group.

-Lida, Belarus: the table of contents and necrology >from "Sefer Lida" were
translated and contributed by Ellen Sadove Renck.

-Lyakhovichi, Belaraus: this site has been expanded by several chapters
from "Lachowicze: Sefer Zicharon" contributed by Stephen Warshall.
-Mariampole, Lithuania: the translation of the necrology >from "Mariampole
al gedot ha-nahar Sheshupe" has been contributed by James M. Friedlander.

-Nuremberg, Germany: Gerhard Jochem of the Nuremberg City Archives has
contributed additions and corrections to the necrology as well as the
booklet for the exhibition on the printing of the Gedenbuch.

-Rokiskis, Lithuania: the site has been expanded by the memorial list
contributed by Steven Weiss

-Staneshti de Zhos, Ukraine: the site has been expanded with the addition
of a memorial list and list of survivors printed in the 20th anniversary
booklet and banquet journal contributed by Irv Osterer and with an
introduction by Lauren Scharf Azoulai.

-Tarnow, Poland: the name index in volume 1 of "Tarnow; kiyuma ve-hurbana
shel ir yehudit" has been transliterated and contributed by Carole Glick
Feinberg.

We are very pleased to announce that Lance Ackerfeld, who has with great
dedication and talent assisted Joyce in securing permissions >from the
landsmanschaftn in Israel, has accepted the newly created volunteer
position of Permissions Coordinator. His help has been invaluable and we
are delighted to publicly acknowledge his contributions to JewishGen's
Yizkor Book Project.

The database has now been updated with all submissions that have been
received over the past several months. If you have submitted data recently,
we suggest you search the database to make sure that it has been entered
accurately. In fact, it would be a good idea to search the database to
make sure all of your entries are correct and up-to-date. One technique
you can use to find all of your entries would search for your name, using a
"Global Text Search."

The database now contains 1313 contact entries, which now include
identification of the 77 chapters >from 62 yizkor books that are translated
in the 2nd edition of ">from a Ruined Garden."

Joyce Field, Translations Manager
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html

Martin Kessel, Project Manager http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/
Joyce Field
jfield@nlci.com


LDS records #poland

JimYarin@...
 

If one can get the correct form (>from your local LDS FHC), one can fill it out
and send it to Utah to the LDS Family History Library to get photocopies of
the SPECIFIC pages you fill out on the form. This is quite different from
ordering a film >from the LDS!!

However, for a researcher in Utah to locate the pages you want photocopied on
the film you indicate, a description is not enough -- they are not expected to
read the records to find the frame of film you want photocopied. What they
will do is copy the frame of the film if the records are numbered sequentially
in that film. The person who wrote the original message below was lucky --
they sent him/her the copies anyway.

There is a middle ground, which I've had good luck with. If the records in the
film are numbered, not by page (eg if it was a book that was microfilmed), but
by record, then they will do the copying without any problem. This is what I'd
done with NYC marriage records: for each film, the certificate numbers run
sequentially, so it was easy for the person doing the research to find the
records I wanted copied. (I did make sure that I asked for both sides, even
though only the front had the certificate number!)

Jim Yarin
Somerville, MA

original message:
...the application form that I'd sent was returned to me

with the remark (in red) "include pages numbers"......
reply message:

I wonder if that message refers to "Akt" --- the document numbers which
usually are listed on the indexed records in the JRI-PL database? But why
would it matter, since you'd be sent the full microfilm reel >from LDS


JRI Poland #Poland LDS records #poland

JimYarin@...
 

If one can get the correct form (>from your local LDS FHC), one can fill it out
and send it to Utah to the LDS Family History Library to get photocopies of
the SPECIFIC pages you fill out on the form. This is quite different from
ordering a film >from the LDS!!

However, for a researcher in Utah to locate the pages you want photocopied on
the film you indicate, a description is not enough -- they are not expected to
read the records to find the frame of film you want photocopied. What they
will do is copy the frame of the film if the records are numbered sequentially
in that film. The person who wrote the original message below was lucky --
they sent him/her the copies anyway.

There is a middle ground, which I've had good luck with. If the records in the
film are numbered, not by page (eg if it was a book that was microfilmed), but
by record, then they will do the copying without any problem. This is what I'd
done with NYC marriage records: for each film, the certificate numbers run
sequentially, so it was easy for the person doing the research to find the
records I wanted copied. (I did make sure that I asked for both sides, even
though only the front had the certificate number!)

Jim Yarin
Somerville, MA

original message:
...the application form that I'd sent was returned to me

with the remark (in red) "include pages numbers"......
reply message:

I wonder if that message refers to "Akt" --- the document numbers which
usually are listed on the indexed records in the JRI-PL database? But why
would it matter, since you'd be sent the full microfilm reel >from LDS