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Re: Argentine phone searches #general

Guillermo Steinberg <guillo@...>
 

The searches engines I have for the Argentine white pages all
insist that you do one state/province at a time. ...
Israel Pickholtz
Both search engines give the possibility of searching
all through the country: you must select "Todas" in one of them, and "Todo
el pais" in the other. However, I recently noticed that for the same
surname research these devices led to no answer, while searching provinces
one by one a lot of names popped out. That is to say, it's completely
useless! Thanks goodness you didn't become aware of its existence,
otherwise you could have concluded that there were no one with the surname
you were searching of! You could search, apart >from Capital Federal
(Buenos Aires City), the provinces of Buenos Aires, C=F3rdoba, Santa Fe,
Entre R=EDos. But probably there's no province with at least a little Jewish
community, so if you really care and get no results searching all the
country at once, be patient and search all the provinces one by one. I
even recently found a relative in the northwestern, far >from all, Province
of Jujuy! Best wishes,
Guillermo Steinberg
Firenze, Italia


Re: Kammenaya Krinitsa #general

JGLois@...
 

Ada Glustein <adag@alumni.ubc.ca> asked:

Does anyone have any information at all about this shtetl that is about
24 miles south of Uman in what is now Ukraine?

Does anyone know when it ceased to exist? Was it wiped out during the
pogroms of 1919? or is there some other explanation?
Ada,

Found this town easily without even consulting Shtetlseeker, WOWW,
or the BGN; one or all of which are usually necessary for the lesser
known shtetls.

The town of Kammenaya Krinitsa most certainly existed in 1943-44.
I found it (spelled with one "m") on one of my favorite maps, the N501
series. This particular map is sheet NM 36-10, edition 2-AMS.
These maps were made by the Army Map Service, Corps of Engineers,
U.S. Army compiled in 1953 >from German Army maps. I have rarely
failed to find a shtetl on these maps.

I originally was shown these maps at the Library of Congress Map
Dept. but have since found that they are readily available in most
large libraries with Map departments. Each grid shows about one
degree of latitude and two degrees of longitude. I found that I can
copy each grid in four pieces on the library copier.

Sorry, I forgot to note the co-ordinates.

Lois Sernoff [Phila., PA, USA]
<JGLois@aol.com>


Re: New Orleans Jewish Records #general

Charles Whitehead <chuckpw@...>
 

There is a book called "The Early Jews of New Orleans" by Bertram
Wallace Korn, published by theAmerican Jewish Historical Society in
1969. If you can't find it let me know waht you are looking for and I
will see if it's in there. Good Luck
Chuck Whitehead
chuckpw@erols.com
14109 Blazer Lane
Silver Spring, MD 20906


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Argentine phone searches #general

Guillermo Steinberg <guillo@...>
 

The searches engines I have for the Argentine white pages all
insist that you do one state/province at a time. ...
Israel Pickholtz
Both search engines give the possibility of searching
all through the country: you must select "Todas" in one of them, and "Todo
el pais" in the other. However, I recently noticed that for the same
surname research these devices led to no answer, while searching provinces
one by one a lot of names popped out. That is to say, it's completely
useless! Thanks goodness you didn't become aware of its existence,
otherwise you could have concluded that there were no one with the surname
you were searching of! You could search, apart >from Capital Federal
(Buenos Aires City), the provinces of Buenos Aires, C=F3rdoba, Santa Fe,
Entre R=EDos. But probably there's no province with at least a little Jewish
community, so if you really care and get no results searching all the
country at once, be patient and search all the provinces one by one. I
even recently found a relative in the northwestern, far >from all, Province
of Jujuy! Best wishes,
Guillermo Steinberg
Firenze, Italia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kammenaya Krinitsa #general

JGLois@...
 

Ada Glustein <adag@alumni.ubc.ca> asked:

Does anyone have any information at all about this shtetl that is about
24 miles south of Uman in what is now Ukraine?

Does anyone know when it ceased to exist? Was it wiped out during the
pogroms of 1919? or is there some other explanation?
Ada,

Found this town easily without even consulting Shtetlseeker, WOWW,
or the BGN; one or all of which are usually necessary for the lesser
known shtetls.

The town of Kammenaya Krinitsa most certainly existed in 1943-44.
I found it (spelled with one "m") on one of my favorite maps, the N501
series. This particular map is sheet NM 36-10, edition 2-AMS.
These maps were made by the Army Map Service, Corps of Engineers,
U.S. Army compiled in 1953 >from German Army maps. I have rarely
failed to find a shtetl on these maps.

I originally was shown these maps at the Library of Congress Map
Dept. but have since found that they are readily available in most
large libraries with Map departments. Each grid shows about one
degree of latitude and two degrees of longitude. I found that I can
copy each grid in four pieces on the library copier.

Sorry, I forgot to note the co-ordinates.

Lois Sernoff [Phila., PA, USA]
<JGLois@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New Orleans Jewish Records #general

Charles Whitehead <chuckpw@...>
 

There is a book called "The Early Jews of New Orleans" by Bertram
Wallace Korn, published by theAmerican Jewish Historical Society in
1969. If you can't find it let me know waht you are looking for and I
will see if it's in there. Good Luck
Chuck Whitehead
chuckpw@erols.com
14109 Blazer Lane
Silver Spring, MD 20906


Searching: BACHRACH / MERLIN from Donetsk, Ukraine #general

lbubby@...
 

I am very excited because I have finally found a relative who still
lives in the Ukraine. It is a cousin in my BACHRACH / BAKHRAKH
family in Donetsk (formerly called Stalino) Ukraine.
My great grandmother, Lea B. MERLIN also lived there.
Any others out there researching this family?
Lori Miller
California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: BACHRACH / MERLIN from Donetsk, Ukraine #general

lbubby@...
 

I am very excited because I have finally found a relative who still
lives in the Ukraine. It is a cousin in my BACHRACH / BAKHRAKH
family in Donetsk (formerly called Stalino) Ukraine.
My great grandmother, Lea B. MERLIN also lived there.
Any others out there researching this family?
Lori Miller
California


Re: Seeking name of town near Warsaw - Thank you #general

Neil K. Nelson <nkn@...>
 

Yesterday I wrote:

.. She pronounced it like
"Novador", although when I asked her how she might spell it, she said
"N-o-v-d-o-r". She also said that this was near Warsaw.
I very quickly got so many replies that it is very difficult to thank you all
individually; please forgive my laziness in thanking you all here en masse. The
nearly universal answer was that this must be Nowy Dwor, located 17 miles NW of
Warsaw.

--
Neil K. Nelson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking name of town near Warsaw - Thank you #general

Neil K. Nelson <nkn@...>
 

Yesterday I wrote:

.. She pronounced it like
"Novador", although when I asked her how she might spell it, she said
"N-o-v-d-o-r". She also said that this was near Warsaw.
I very quickly got so many replies that it is very difficult to thank you all
individually; please forgive my laziness in thanking you all here en masse. The
nearly universal answer was that this must be Nowy Dwor, located 17 miles NW of
Warsaw.

--
Neil K. Nelson


Re: Name discrepancies #general

tom klein <tom_klein@...>
 

you wrote:

With all the recent mentions of name discrepancies in records, I
would
like to mention one that has had me tearing my hair a bit.
[snip!]
Considering that his father never made it to America from
Lithuania, does
anybody have an idea how he could have come up with "Morris" as an
English name for Chaim Yitzchak?
save your hair! (this subject has been discussed at length in
jewishgen, but...)

there doesn't need to be *any* correspondence between names. my
hebrew name is "shlomo baruch ben moshe yaakov" which happens (not)
to correspond to "tamas lajos son of geza".

the idea that names in english and hebrew have to match is cute, but
not a necessity.

more specifically, when jews >from smaller european shtetls only had a
hebrew name (and lived mostly in a yiddish-speaking jewish world),
they used the (polish/russian/whatever/american) version of that
name for government documents. other communities, which were less
insulated, used popular non-jewish names ("geza" is a good example),
often in addition to their hebrew name(s).

likewise, as families had fewer children, the need to honour
ancestors could force the child to bear more than one name, so it was
convenient to be able to give up to 4 names (first- and middle-name,
for both hebrew and secular).

regards,

....... tom klein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name discrepancies #general

tom klein <tom_klein@...>
 

you wrote:

With all the recent mentions of name discrepancies in records, I
would
like to mention one that has had me tearing my hair a bit.
[snip!]
Considering that his father never made it to America from
Lithuania, does
anybody have an idea how he could have come up with "Morris" as an
English name for Chaim Yitzchak?
save your hair! (this subject has been discussed at length in
jewishgen, but...)

there doesn't need to be *any* correspondence between names. my
hebrew name is "shlomo baruch ben moshe yaakov" which happens (not)
to correspond to "tamas lajos son of geza".

the idea that names in english and hebrew have to match is cute, but
not a necessity.

more specifically, when jews >from smaller european shtetls only had a
hebrew name (and lived mostly in a yiddish-speaking jewish world),
they used the (polish/russian/whatever/american) version of that
name for government documents. other communities, which were less
insulated, used popular non-jewish names ("geza" is a good example),
often in addition to their hebrew name(s).

likewise, as families had fewer children, the need to honour
ancestors could force the child to bear more than one name, so it was
convenient to be able to give up to 4 names (first- and middle-name,
for both hebrew and secular).

regards,

....... tom klein


Unclaimed Funds #general

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorie.rosenfeld@...>
 

Hi, Israel. Re your interesting idea of doing genealogy through
unclaimed-funds research, the December 1997 issue of MONEY carried an
article on how to find and claim unclaimed property. According to that
article, the National Association of Unclaimed Property Administrators
(NAUPA) has a Website which was at that time used by 22 states to list
names of unclaimed-property owners. The article also gives phone numbers
for the property offices of all the states. I know this only because my
brother found, scrambling around on the Internet, that New York has some
unclaimed funds >from a bank in New Rochelle for someone who sounds like me!
I've never been in New Rochelle, but maybe I had an unknown admirer. I
hope you'll let us all know whether going the unclaimed-property route is a
good way of pursuing genealogy!

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld marjorie.rosenfeld@cwix.com
Carlsbad, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Unclaimed Funds #general

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorie.rosenfeld@...>
 

Hi, Israel. Re your interesting idea of doing genealogy through
unclaimed-funds research, the December 1997 issue of MONEY carried an
article on how to find and claim unclaimed property. According to that
article, the National Association of Unclaimed Property Administrators
(NAUPA) has a Website which was at that time used by 22 states to list
names of unclaimed-property owners. The article also gives phone numbers
for the property offices of all the states. I know this only because my
brother found, scrambling around on the Internet, that New York has some
unclaimed funds >from a bank in New Rochelle for someone who sounds like me!
I've never been in New Rochelle, but maybe I had an unknown admirer. I
hope you'll let us all know whether going the unclaimed-property route is a
good way of pursuing genealogy!

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld marjorie.rosenfeld@cwix.com
Carlsbad, CA


Re: Argentine phone searches #general

Willie46@...
 

On Wednesday, February 10, Israel Pickholtz asked:
"The searches engines I have for the Argentine white pages all
insist that you do one state/province at a time. .. I'd still like to find something that will search all of them at once.
Failing that, what other areas are most likely to have Jews?"
===============================================
For those who have not found Argentina's white pages, it is at
http://www.paginas-
doradas.com.ar/explorer/guia_telefonica/frame_telefonica.htm. When searching
you must denote a "Provincia" (Province). At the bottom of the list is
"Todas." This will provide a listing of all surnames >from all Provinces.

Some references to access for information on Argentine Genealogy and migration
are:
JGS of Argentina at www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ar-jgs.txt

Jewish immigration at JGS of Rochester at
http://www.memo.com/jgsr/news/9/argentina.html

Argentina at Virtual Jerusalem at
www.virtualjerusalem.com/communities/wjcbook/argentina/index

Although the majority of Argentina's Jewish population lives in Buenos Aires,
you cannot assume that those you are searching live there. I have found
possible relatives in Rosario.

Mark Halpern
Hermosa Beach, CA, USA


Searching BENNISH, Lithuania and UK #general

SANDI ROOT
 

Rose(KAHAN/COHEN)BENNISH married Hyman BENNISH and had 6 children, one was Mark BANUS, a London CPA who married Annie HARRIS and had 3 daughters; Nancy (ULLMAN), Joan (MASON), and Brenda Ruth (GIBSON)

Rose’s father is Abraham KAHAN

Her siblings:

Bryna Rivka, went to Chicago and married SCHNEIDERMAN or SNYDERMAN and had 4 children: Anne (HERRE), Sarah (WHATLEY), Harry and Albert

Sarah KAHAN/COHEN (my grandmother-went by the name COHEN)
b. August 18,1863, married Barnet (Ben) BLUMENTHAL, had 7 children born in England, and one child born in Chicago: Harry, Annie (MORA), Julius, Abraham, Rebecca (PORTER), Phillip, Michael and Ida (HURWITZ),

Two brothers went to New York, one is named Julius, possibly in the clothing trade.

Two brothers went to South Africa, one possibly is named Malech, possibly in the clothing trade.


Sandi Root
roadrunr2@usa.net
Bogota, Colombia

Searching BLUMENTHAL, KAHAN or COHEN, JACOBSON, BENNISH, BENES, or BANUS, SCHNEIDERMAN or SNYDERMAN, MENDELSON or MENDELSOHN, LIEBOVITCH (any spelling variation), ZIVITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Argentine phone searches #general

Willie46@...
 

On Wednesday, February 10, Israel Pickholtz asked:
"The searches engines I have for the Argentine white pages all
insist that you do one state/province at a time. .. I'd still like to find something that will search all of them at once.
Failing that, what other areas are most likely to have Jews?"
===============================================
For those who have not found Argentina's white pages, it is at
http://www.paginas-
doradas.com.ar/explorer/guia_telefonica/frame_telefonica.htm. When searching
you must denote a "Provincia" (Province). At the bottom of the list is
"Todas." This will provide a listing of all surnames >from all Provinces.

Some references to access for information on Argentine Genealogy and migration
are:
JGS of Argentina at www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ar-jgs.txt

Jewish immigration at JGS of Rochester at
http://www.memo.com/jgsr/news/9/argentina.html

Argentina at Virtual Jerusalem at
www.virtualjerusalem.com/communities/wjcbook/argentina/index

Although the majority of Argentina's Jewish population lives in Buenos Aires,
you cannot assume that those you are searching live there. I have found
possible relatives in Rosario.

Mark Halpern
Hermosa Beach, CA, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching BENNISH, Lithuania and UK #general

SANDI ROOT
 

Rose(KAHAN/COHEN)BENNISH married Hyman BENNISH and had 6 children, one was Mark BANUS, a London CPA who married Annie HARRIS and had 3 daughters; Nancy (ULLMAN), Joan (MASON), and Brenda Ruth (GIBSON)

Rose’s father is Abraham KAHAN

Her siblings:

Bryna Rivka, went to Chicago and married SCHNEIDERMAN or SNYDERMAN and had 4 children: Anne (HERRE), Sarah (WHATLEY), Harry and Albert

Sarah KAHAN/COHEN (my grandmother-went by the name COHEN)
b. August 18,1863, married Barnet (Ben) BLUMENTHAL, had 7 children born in England, and one child born in Chicago: Harry, Annie (MORA), Julius, Abraham, Rebecca (PORTER), Phillip, Michael and Ida (HURWITZ),

Two brothers went to New York, one is named Julius, possibly in the clothing trade.

Two brothers went to South Africa, one possibly is named Malech, possibly in the clothing trade.


Sandi Root
roadrunr2@usa.net
Bogota, Colombia

Searching BLUMENTHAL, KAHAN or COHEN, JACOBSON, BENNISH, BENES, or BANUS, SCHNEIDERMAN or SNYDERMAN, MENDELSON or MENDELSOHN, LIEBOVITCH (any spelling variation), ZIVITZ


Kurow, Poland - Shtetl CO-OP news #general

Primpark <primpark@...>
 

The Kurow and Lublin Shtetl CO-OPs are delighted to announce that all the
available Kurow vital records are now available to be searched on the
JRI-Poland Database. All records >from the town of Kurow in the Lublin District
for the years 1810 to 1847 are indexed and on-line. This represents the
complete holdings of the Mormon Library for the town of Kurow.

Special thanks to Stan Zeidenburg (Canada) for providing the hard copies of the
1826-1847 Kurow indexes.

This project was not only represents an international effort but was a fun
project accomplished by three cousins, Jonathan Newman (England), Robinn Magid
(USA), and Meyer Denn (Israel).

For more information about Kurow or the Lublin District, please contact us
anytime.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Newman
Kurow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
Primpark@aol.com

Robinn Magid
Lublin Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
RobinnM@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kurow, Poland - Shtetl CO-OP news #general

Primpark <primpark@...>
 

The Kurow and Lublin Shtetl CO-OPs are delighted to announce that all the
available Kurow vital records are now available to be searched on the
JRI-Poland Database. All records >from the town of Kurow in the Lublin District
for the years 1810 to 1847 are indexed and on-line. This represents the
complete holdings of the Mormon Library for the town of Kurow.

Special thanks to Stan Zeidenburg (Canada) for providing the hard copies of the
1826-1847 Kurow indexes.

This project was not only represents an international effort but was a fun
project accomplished by three cousins, Jonathan Newman (England), Robinn Magid
(USA), and Meyer Denn (Israel).

For more information about Kurow or the Lublin District, please contact us
anytime.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Newman
Kurow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
Primpark@aol.com

Robinn Magid
Lublin Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
RobinnM@aol.com