Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group some time ago. I have never been doing
genealogy research so far. I live in suburban State of NSW Australia
in Albury. My native language is German and I also can speak English.
I consider myself advanced in using a computer. My experience in using
the Internet is intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my
grandparents of my father.

My primary research goals now are to find out: Ancestors of
Theodor MENSE Muenster Westfalia
Sophie M. Fitz Hamm Westfalia in the 1800

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
Mense, Fitz in Osnabrueck, Muenster Hamm Westfalia Germany

Heinz Mense heinz.me@bigpond.com Albury NSW Australia heinz.me@bigpond.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Family names of people you are researching and their
relatives should be typed in all capital letters when you send Email to
our list. Because you did not observe this rule it is not clear if "Hamm"
is the name of a person or if it is a location.

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group some time ago. I have never been doing
genealogy research so far. I live in suburban State of NSW Australia
in Albury. My native language is German and I also can speak English.
I consider myself advanced in using a computer. My experience in using
the Internet is intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my
grandparents of my father.

My primary research goals now are to find out: Ancestors of
Theodor MENSE Muenster Westfalia
Sophie M. Fitz Hamm Westfalia in the 1800

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
Mense, Fitz in Osnabrueck, Muenster Hamm Westfalia Germany

Heinz Mense heinz.me@bigpond.com Albury NSW Australia heinz.me@bigpond.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Family names of people you are researching and their
relatives should be typed in all capital letters when you send Email to
our list. Because you did not observe this rule it is not clear if "Hamm"
is the name of a person or if it is a location.

Hello GerSig,
i just joined the group a few days ago. I have been doing genealogy
research for about 5 years. I consider myself to be a beginner in doing
German Jewish Genealogy research. I live in Hamburg, Germany.
My native language is german and I also know english. I consider myself
intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using the internet
is extensive.

My primary research goal is to find Germans of Jewish ancestry hidden by my
grandparents Karl Anton Kessler and his wife Gerda Kessler (born
Bertram) who lived in Bernauer Strasse 16, Altlandsberg, Niederbarnim,
east of Berlin between 1939 and 1945.

According to oral testimony they had hid up to 50-60 Germans persecuted
as Jews in their home and basement, some also for a longer period of
time. My grandmother, who survived the war, hasn't given us any names
of those she hid. I would be happy to find testimony >from witnesses who
were, maybe as children, hid themselves by my grandparents or testimony
in letters and biographies.

Gunnar Pudlatz, Hamburg, Germany JGID 722120 schuwoe@gmx.de

Hello GerSig,
i just joined the group a few days ago. I have been doing genealogy
research for about 5 years. I consider myself to be a beginner in doing
German Jewish Genealogy research. I live in Hamburg, Germany.
My native language is german and I also know english. I consider myself
intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using the internet
is extensive.

My primary research goal is to find Germans of Jewish ancestry hidden by my
grandparents Karl Anton Kessler and his wife Gerda Kessler (born
Bertram) who lived in Bernauer Strasse 16, Altlandsberg, Niederbarnim,
east of Berlin between 1939 and 1945.

According to oral testimony they had hid up to 50-60 Germans persecuted
as Jews in their home and basement, some also for a longer period of
time. My grandmother, who survived the war, hasn't given us any names
of those she hid. I would be happy to find testimony >from witnesses who
were, maybe as children, hid themselves by my grandparents or testimony
in letters and biographies.

Gunnar Pudlatz, Hamburg, Germany JGID 722120 schuwoe@gmx.de

A few months ago, I finally broke through a decades-long brick wall in
my research and found to my surprise that my family has a Prussian
branch, who arrived in the United States around 1858! Everyone else
in the family are post-1880 (often post-1900) immigrants, and
ostjuden, so while I can tell you all about how to research people in
Galicia or Bessarabia or the Russian Empire, I have pretty much no
idea what I'm doing when it comes to Prussian Jewish research.

Any help at all with the following situation would be very welcome:

Lena "Nathalie" (or Natalie, Natalia, Nettie, Henrietta) CASPAR /
CASPER was born circa 1838 according to various census records and her
death certificate, and died in New York in 1891. She was the daughter
of Abraham and Esther, maiden name unknown. Various records give her
birthplace as "Germany".

Her husband was Chaim "Herman" (or Heyman, Hayman, Haiman) GREENBERG /
GRUNBERG / GRUENBERG, who was born circa 1839 according to various
census records and his death certificate, and died in New York in
1885. His parents were David and Mary, maiden name unknown. Various
records give his birthplace as "Russia" or "Poland" or less commonly
as "Germany".

I don't know where or when they were married, perhaps New York City?
But I cannot find a marriage record for them. They had three children
together that I know of, all born in New York City, between 1864 and
1867. I have only been able to locate a birth certificate for the
youngest of these, but luckily it is the one for my
great-great-grandfather Jacob GREENBERG. He was born in Manhattan in
1867, but the garbled birth certificate wrongly lists the baby's first
name as Marcus and his father's first name as Jacob. It is definitely
the right person, though, because Jacob's 1905 tombstone also has his
exact date of birth on it, and the other details on the certificate
are correct, including his mother's maiden name. (And yes, he was a
Yaakov, not a Hebrew name starting with M.)

This 1867 birth certificate gives the place of birth for both of the
parents as "Salumi [sic], Slesia [sic], Prussia". I believe this
might be a transcription version of "Zielona, Silesia, Prussia".
Zielona (or Zielona Gora) is the only town I can locate that was in
Silesia that sounds or looks anything like Salumi, although at the
time of the birth in 1867, the town would have been better known under
its German name Grunberg (with an umlaut). That Herman's surname is
also GRUNBERG might be a coincidence or perhaps not. Clearly, this is
unlikely to be the same birthplace for both parents, given that
Lena/Nathalie is later described as being born in Germany and Herman
as being born in Russian Poland.

I have been unable to locate Herman's immigration papers, but his
death certificate puts it at circa 1857. Lena/Natalie's death
certificate indicates she immigrated circa 1863, so she might be the
same "Natalie/Natalia CASPER" who came to NYC on August 18 1862 at age
25 >from Germany (she was 24 when she left Hamburg on July 1st), a
resident of Exin, Prussia (now Kcynia, Poland, near Poznan/Posen).
Other people named CASPAR are also listed as having come >from Exin to
New York City in the similar time period, but I have been unable to
trace them as possible relatives.

They are both buried at Bayside Cemetery, Ozone Park, Queens, NYC, New
York, but that cemetery is basically neglected and overgrown and the
ledger books are incomplete, so until I find the tombstones, I won't
be able to look up what landsmanschaften group they were buried with,
if any. The family lived on Mott Street on the Lower East Side, an
area which is more usually associated with the later-arriving Eastern
European Jews, so I am also looking into synagogues in that area that
served the German/Prussian community, and then working to find out if
their records are extant.

One of the other NYC-born kids in the family married a MAMROTH >from a
Prussian family, maybe another clue as to origins.

Suggestions as to how to proceed with research are welcome!

Brooke Schreier Ganz, Mill Valley, California asparagirl@gmail.com

A few months ago, I finally broke through a decades-long brick wall in
my research and found to my surprise that my family has a Prussian
branch, who arrived in the United States around 1858! Everyone else
in the family are post-1880 (often post-1900) immigrants, and
ostjuden, so while I can tell you all about how to research people in
Galicia or Bessarabia or the Russian Empire, I have pretty much no
idea what I'm doing when it comes to Prussian Jewish research.

Any help at all with the following situation would be very welcome:

Lena "Nathalie" (or Natalie, Natalia, Nettie, Henrietta) CASPAR /
CASPER was born circa 1838 according to various census records and her
death certificate, and died in New York in 1891. She was the daughter
of Abraham and Esther, maiden name unknown. Various records give her
birthplace as "Germany".

Her husband was Chaim "Herman" (or Heyman, Hayman, Haiman) GREENBERG /
GRUNBERG / GRUENBERG, who was born circa 1839 according to various
census records and his death certificate, and died in New York in
1885. His parents were David and Mary, maiden name unknown. Various
records give his birthplace as "Russia" or "Poland" or less commonly
as "Germany".

I don't know where or when they were married, perhaps New York City?
But I cannot find a marriage record for them. They had three children
together that I know of, all born in New York City, between 1864 and
1867. I have only been able to locate a birth certificate for the
youngest of these, but luckily it is the one for my
great-great-grandfather Jacob GREENBERG. He was born in Manhattan in
1867, but the garbled birth certificate wrongly lists the baby's first
name as Marcus and his father's first name as Jacob. It is definitely
the right person, though, because Jacob's 1905 tombstone also has his
exact date of birth on it, and the other details on the certificate
are correct, including his mother's maiden name. (And yes, he was a
Yaakov, not a Hebrew name starting with M.)

This 1867 birth certificate gives the place of birth for both of the
parents as "Salumi [sic], Slesia [sic], Prussia". I believe this
might be a transcription version of "Zielona, Silesia, Prussia".
Zielona (or Zielona Gora) is the only town I can locate that was in
Silesia that sounds or looks anything like Salumi, although at the
time of the birth in 1867, the town would have been better known under
its German name Grunberg (with an umlaut). That Herman's surname is
also GRUNBERG might be a coincidence or perhaps not. Clearly, this is
unlikely to be the same birthplace for both parents, given that
Lena/Nathalie is later described as being born in Germany and Herman
as being born in Russian Poland.

I have been unable to locate Herman's immigration papers, but his
death certificate puts it at circa 1857. Lena/Natalie's death
certificate indicates she immigrated circa 1863, so she might be the
same "Natalie/Natalia CASPER" who came to NYC on August 18 1862 at age
25 >from Germany (she was 24 when she left Hamburg on July 1st), a
resident of Exin, Prussia (now Kcynia, Poland, near Poznan/Posen).
Other people named CASPAR are also listed as having come >from Exin to
New York City in the similar time period, but I have been unable to
trace them as possible relatives.

They are both buried at Bayside Cemetery, Ozone Park, Queens, NYC, New
York, but that cemetery is basically neglected and overgrown and the
ledger books are incomplete, so until I find the tombstones, I won't
be able to look up what landsmanschaften group they were buried with,
if any. The family lived on Mott Street on the Lower East Side, an
area which is more usually associated with the later-arriving Eastern
European Jews, so I am also looking into synagogues in that area that
served the German/Prussian community, and then working to find out if
their records are extant.

One of the other NYC-born kids in the family married a MAMROTH >from a
Prussian family, maybe another clue as to origins.

Suggestions as to how to proceed with research are welcome!

Brooke Schreier Ganz, Mill Valley, California asparagirl@gmail.com

In our previous message, we incorrectly identified Deputy Consul General
Ravit Baer as Consul General. As previously announced, Ms. Baer, a
career diplomat in the Israeli foreign service, served
in Europe and Africa before becoming Israel's Deputy Consul General to
the Pacific Northwest. We are honored to have her present the August 11
screening of the acclaimed Israeli movie "The Dove
Flyer," and apologize for incorrectly identifying her.

"The Dove Flyer" will be shown as part of a Jewish film festival that
has been curated for the conference by leading Jewish film scholar and
teacher of cinema Dr. Eric Goldman. The film is based on Eli Amir's
blockbuster novel of the same name, brings to life the fragile, doomed
world of the Baghdad Jewish community in 1950.

In addition, as at previous conferences, key lectures and presentations will
be made available through LIVE! a real-time video streaming service after up
to 90 days after the conference. It's not too late to register for the
conference or to purchase LIVE! Visit the conference website,
www.iajgs2016.org , for more information about all aspects of the
conference.

We're looking forward to seeing so many of you in Seattle August 7-12.

Janette Silverman, Chuck Weinstein, Phyllis Grossman Conference Co-Chairs

Old letters and photographs play an important role in the latest issue
of JewishGen's Success! Stories. These stories take us to Argentina,
Germany, Austria, Poland, and the Netherlands. You can access these
stories >from the "About Us" button on our website or by following this
link: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Testimonials/

Suzanne Reisman finds two old photos of an unknown baby after her
grandmother passes away. Silvia Rodriguez translates letters >from the
late 1930s for her friend Leda Altura -- letters written in German,
containing desperate pleas for help in emigrating >from Vienna to
Argentina. Peter Vanlaw inherits old letters and photos >from his
mother, giving him the urge to find out more about his Rehfisch
family, and to identify all the nameless faces that appeared in those
photos.

This issue was prepared by JewishGen volunteers -- Nancy Siegel, Editor
and Anna Blanchard, Webmaster. Anna has volunteered her time and
talents as the Success! Stories Webmaster for the past four years. She
has created beautiful layouts of the inspiring stories you send us.
Anna is now stepping down to pursue other ventures. We will miss her
greatly, but we send her off with our gratitude and best wishes.

We hope that you, too, will have success in your research using the
abundant resources of JewishGen and we encourage you to submit your
own success stories to us at success@lyris.jewishgen.org.

Phyllis Kramer, NYC & PBG, Florida
VP, Education & Special Projects, JewishGen, Inc.

My Co-Chairs and I know >from the emails we get, that there are so many
people who want to attend the upcoming conference in Seattle, Aug 7-12,
but who just can't fit the conference into their calendar or their
budget. Although virtually attending the conference isn't as fabulous
as being there, it does provide access to about 90% of all of the
conference sessions. We also know that many of the attendees are
frustrated at not being to attend every session, and since there are
over 235 sessions, that's obviously physically impossible, so we have
solutions for you.

There are two ways to hear/see what's happening at the conference, and
they work well together. I'll briefly describe each of them, since
their titles may not be descriptive enough. The first is LIVE! This
provides live streaming of sessions by some of our most popular
speakers. This means that if you have the time, you can watch (and
hear) the sessions as they are being presented, as if you were there!
The conference is in Seattle, Washington, so the time of each session is
listed in Pacific Daylight Time (UTC/GMT -7 hours). If you don't have
time to tune in while the session is streaming, no worries. After the
conference is over, you 90 days to access the session "on demand".

The other way to hear the sessions is to purchase the audio/slides
recording. Almost all of the sessions at the conference are being
recording (voice only) with the slides the presenter is using. Some
presenters do not have their slides being recorded, in which case, the
recording of that session is only audio. If you purchase this, you will
receive the whole package a few weeks after the conference is over and
be able to listen to the presentation and see the slides as your
leisure. Not all presentations that are on LIVE! are having audio
recordings made.

To purchase LIVE! and/or the audio and slides, go to the IAJGS 2016
website (http://www.iajgs2016.org/) then, under the registration tab,
Select New Registration;
Click "Go to Registration Form (for starting out)" near the bottom;
Click the gray New Registration button;
Enter your personal information and click Continue;
Select 5. Full LIVE! only (not attending in Seattle) or
7. Full LIVE! & Full Audio/slides (not attending in Seattle) and
continue to the end.

Of course, if you are attending the conference and want to purchase the
packages, there are options on the menu above to do that as well.

Looking forward to seeing many of you in Seattle!

Janette Silverman, Chuck Weinstein and Phyllis Grossman
Conference Co-Chairs

In our previous message, we incorrectly identified Deputy Consul General
Ravit Baer as Consul General. As previously announced, Ms. Baer, a
career diplomat in the Israeli foreign service, served
in Europe and Africa before becoming Israel's Deputy Consul General to
the Pacific Northwest. We are honored to have her present the August 11
screening of the acclaimed Israeli movie "The Dove
Flyer," and apologize for incorrectly identifying her.

"The Dove Flyer" will be shown as part of a Jewish film festival that
has been curated for the conference by leading Jewish film scholar and
teacher of cinema Dr. Eric Goldman. The film is based on Eli Amir's
blockbuster novel of the same name, brings to life the fragile, doomed
world of the Baghdad Jewish community in 1950.

In addition, as at previous conferences, key lectures and presentations will
be made available through LIVE! a real-time video streaming service after up
to 90 days after the conference. It's not too late to register for the
conference or to purchase LIVE! Visit the conference website,
www.iajgs2016.org , for more information about all aspects of the
conference.

We're looking forward to seeing so many of you in Seattle August 7-12.

Janette Silverman, Chuck Weinstein, Phyllis Grossman Conference Co-Chairs

Old letters and photographs play an important role in the latest issue
of JewishGen's Success! Stories. These stories take us to Argentina,
Germany, Austria, Poland, and the Netherlands. You can access these
stories >from the "About Us" button on our website or by following this
link: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Testimonials/

Suzanne Reisman finds two old photos of an unknown baby after her
grandmother passes away. Silvia Rodriguez translates letters >from the
late 1930s for her friend Leda Altura -- letters written in German,
containing desperate pleas for help in emigrating >from Vienna to
Argentina. Peter Vanlaw inherits old letters and photos >from his
mother, giving him the urge to find out more about his Rehfisch
family, and to identify all the nameless faces that appeared in those
photos.

This issue was prepared by JewishGen volunteers -- Nancy Siegel, Editor
and Anna Blanchard, Webmaster. Anna has volunteered her time and
talents as the Success! Stories Webmaster for the past four years. She
has created beautiful layouts of the inspiring stories you send us.
Anna is now stepping down to pursue other ventures. We will miss her
greatly, but we send her off with our gratitude and best wishes.

We hope that you, too, will have success in your research using the
abundant resources of JewishGen and we encourage you to submit your
own success stories to us at success@lyris.jewishgen.org.

Phyllis Kramer, NYC & PBG, Florida
VP, Education & Special Projects, JewishGen, Inc.

My Co-Chairs and I know >from the emails we get, that there are so many
people who want to attend the upcoming conference in Seattle, Aug 7-12,
but who just can't fit the conference into their calendar or their
budget. Although virtually attending the conference isn't as fabulous
as being there, it does provide access to about 90% of all of the
conference sessions. We also know that many of the attendees are
frustrated at not being to attend every session, and since there are
over 235 sessions, that's obviously physically impossible, so we have
solutions for you.

There are two ways to hear/see what's happening at the conference, and
they work well together. I'll briefly describe each of them, since
their titles may not be descriptive enough. The first is LIVE! This
provides live streaming of sessions by some of our most popular
speakers. This means that if you have the time, you can watch (and
hear) the sessions as they are being presented, as if you were there!
The conference is in Seattle, Washington, so the time of each session is
listed in Pacific Daylight Time (UTC/GMT -7 hours). If you don't have
time to tune in while the session is streaming, no worries. After the
conference is over, you 90 days to access the session "on demand".

The other way to hear the sessions is to purchase the audio/slides
recording. Almost all of the sessions at the conference are being
recording (voice only) with the slides the presenter is using. Some
presenters do not have their slides being recorded, in which case, the
recording of that session is only audio. If you purchase this, you will
receive the whole package a few weeks after the conference is over and
be able to listen to the presentation and see the slides as your
leisure. Not all presentations that are on LIVE! are having audio
recordings made.

To purchase LIVE! and/or the audio and slides, go to the IAJGS 2016
website (http://www.iajgs2016.org/) then, under the registration tab,
Select New Registration;
Click "Go to Registration Form (for starting out)" near the bottom;
Click the gray New Registration button;
Enter your personal information and click Continue;
Select 5. Full LIVE! only (not attending in Seattle) or
7. Full LIVE! & Full Audio/slides (not attending in Seattle) and
continue to the end.

Of course, if you are attending the conference and want to purchase the
packages, there are options on the menu above to do that as well.

Looking forward to seeing many of you in Seattle!

Janette Silverman, Chuck Weinstein and Phyllis Grossman
Conference Co-Chairs

Looking to make contact with and learn more about the grandchildren of
Noah Friedman, born in 1876 and died in 1911 who had four children
Nissan, Yisrael Chaim, Sasha and Necha.
Three died during the Holocaust, and one died in Israel. His
grandchildren live in New York and Israel.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.

Looking to make contact with and learn more about the grandchildren of
Noah Friedman, born in 1876 and died in 1911 who had four children
Nissan, Yisrael Chaim, Sasha and Necha.
Three died during the Holocaust, and one died in Israel. His
grandchildren live in New York and Israel.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.

I'd be grateful for help with an event described in a newspaper
advertisement that I've posted to Viewmate. The ad appeared in a Vilna
newspaper in 1922.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49413

I think I can determine what musical works were performed, but I don't
understand whether or not the evening was principally one of ballet,
and a complete translation would be a great help!

Private replies, I think; this is probably *not* of interest to the
entire group.

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX

I'd be grateful for help with an event described in a newspaper
advertisement that I've posted to Viewmate. The ad appeared in a Vilna
newspaper in 1922.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49413

I think I can determine what musical works were performed, but I don't
understand whether or not the evening was principally one of ballet,
and a complete translation would be a great help!

Private replies, I think; this is probably *not* of interest to the
entire group.

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX

Dear All,

I am looking for information regarding Max SCHARF, who was born on
April 12, 1894 in Kolomiyya (then: Austria) who came to the USin 1911.

I found his entry to the US and his naturalization papers in New York.

In his naturalization papers he stated that he was married with Lena
b. 15.9.1898. I also found his WWI and WWII draft cards.

from all material I gathered we know that in 1921 he was single and

lived in 21 East 104th St. NYC.

In 1928 he was married with Lena and lived at 1643 Madison Av. NYC

In 1942 they lived at 3028 W 23rd St., Kings county, NYC

I could not find Max & Lena together on the 1940 cencus, nor I was
able to find any children, although I was told that Max had a
daughter.

I could not find a marriage record for them nor a probate file when
Max died on JAnuary 1, 1966, nor an obituary.

I will appreciate ideas of what else can be done.

Thank you,

Rony Golan
Israel

Researching: KRAMARUTSKY - Lithuania
EISDORFER - Hungary
SLOMOVITS- Romania

Dear All,

I am looking for information regarding Max SCHARF, who was born on
April 12, 1894 in Kolomiyya (then: Austria) who came to the USin 1911.

I found his entry to the US and his naturalization papers in New York.

In his naturalization papers he stated that he was married with Lena
b. 15.9.1898. I also found his WWI and WWII draft cards.

from all material I gathered we know that in 1921 he was single and

lived in 21 East 104th St. NYC.

In 1928 he was married with Lena and lived at 1643 Madison Av. NYC

In 1942 they lived at 3028 W 23rd St., Kings county, NYC

I could not find Max & Lena together on the 1940 cencus, nor I was
able to find any children, although I was told that Max had a
daughter.

I could not find a marriage record for them nor a probate file when
Max died on JAnuary 1, 1966, nor an obituary.

I will appreciate ideas of what else can be done.

Thank you,

Rony Golan
Israel

Researching: KRAMARUTSKY - Lithuania
EISDORFER - Hungary
SLOMOVITS- Romania

All the pages of testimony submitted by Nehama Bukhner list her
address as "hanadiv street, herzlia", with no house or apartment
number, or phone number, and are signed and dated 20/11/1956.

....... tom klein, toronto

From: Danielle Weiner <dweiner51@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:34:16 -0500

I have just found a Page of Testimony at Yad Vashem for my father's
first cousin, Fania Blitz (nee Shibovsky) >from Vilna. Sadly, she died
in Auschwitz in 1943 at about 38 yrs. of age. The person who
contributed the POT (an acquaintance of my cousin) is named Nekhama
Bukhner and is apparently >from Israel. I believe this is a woman,
even though she is listed as a son on her father's POT.

...

I would like to know if she gives an address or at least a city in
Israel where I can begin looking for her or her family...

All the pages of testimony submitted by Nehama Bukhner list her
address as "hanadiv street, herzlia", with no house or apartment
number, or phone number, and are signed and dated 20/11/1956.

....... tom klein, toronto

From: Danielle Weiner <dweiner51@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:34:16 -0500

I have just found a Page of Testimony at Yad Vashem for my father's
first cousin, Fania Blitz (nee Shibovsky) >from Vilna. Sadly, she died
in Auschwitz in 1943 at about 38 yrs. of age. The person who
contributed the POT (an acquaintance of my cousin) is named Nekhama
Bukhner and is apparently >from Israel. I believe this is a woman,
even though she is listed as a son on her father's POT.

...

I would like to know if she gives an address or at least a city in
Israel where I can begin looking for her or her family...