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Re: jcr-uk digest: September 26, 2016 Teacher Training Highbury #unitedkingdom

jim.duggan@...
 

My grandmother, Rachel Silverstone, resident in Stepney, was trained as a
teacher in London about that time as well. I won't have access to my notes
For a month, but I believe that there was a city or county sponsored programme
Was aimed at training local residents to teach in the local schools. I've seen
rosters of teachers >from the program. I suspect they were encountered on.
the City of London library in Finsbury during my visit there. I will send
An update. Not sure that this program was explicitly aimed at Jewish neighb=
orhoods.

Regards,
Jim Duggan

Sent >from my iPad

On Sep 27, 2016, at 02:04, JCR-UK SIG digest <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org> w=
rote:
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JCR-UK Digest for Monday, September 26, 2016.
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1. New Posting: "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury, New Park, 1=
909 ???
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Subject: New Posting: "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury, New P=
ark, 1909 ???
From: Guyleslie@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:45:43 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1
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New Posting: "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury, New Park,=20=
1909 ???
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Has anyone heard of the "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury,=20=
New Park, London in the early 20th Century? A relative supposedly receiv=
ed=20
her Teacher-Training there, and was also "Honorary Teacher of Religion"=20=
there, all between 1908-1911, but I can't find an record of the place. Sh=
e was=20
already 20, and had already taken University-level exams in Music, so its=
=20
unlikely this was just one of the 'Pupil-Teacher Training Centres' that w=
ere=20
being set up in the 1890's to concentrate & improve 'pupil-teacher'=20
training (and I haven't heard of a specifically Jewish one anyway; JFS tr=
ained=20
internally). It might have been a stand-alone Teacher-Training College=20=
(either 'associated' with a University after 1890, or a completely indepe=
ndent=20
LEA-created one after 1902), but I've never heard of a Jewish one, and=20=
Dr.Gerry Black specifically found that "no satisfactory Jewish teachers'=20=
training college was established then nor since". Any thoughts might be h=
elpful.
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Donald Press (New York)
Searching: PRESS/PRES (Skuodas/Seda/Plunge); HOFFMAN (South Africa & USA)=
;=20
OWSEOWITZ/OVSEYIOVICH (Silale); BRUKH/BRUCH (Plunge); MILNER (Silale);=20=
HART (London); DAVIDS (Amsterdam, London); BERMAN (Siauliai); LIPSCHITZ=20=
(Kursenai); PRESS/SILVERSTONE (Manchester/Liverpool); KLEINMAN/KLEYNMAN=20=
(Kraziai, USA, SA), LEVERSON/LEVINSON (Kovno, London)
=20
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END OF DIGEST
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: September 26, 2016 Teacher Training Highbury #unitedkingdom

jim.duggan@...
 

My grandmother, Rachel Silverstone, resident in Stepney, was trained as a
teacher in London about that time as well. I won't have access to my notes
For a month, but I believe that there was a city or county sponsored programme
Was aimed at training local residents to teach in the local schools. I've seen
rosters of teachers >from the program. I suspect they were encountered on.
the City of London library in Finsbury during my visit there. I will send
An update. Not sure that this program was explicitly aimed at Jewish neighb=
orhoods.

Regards,
Jim Duggan

Sent >from my iPad

On Sep 27, 2016, at 02:04, JCR-UK SIG digest <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org> w=
rote:
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JCR-UK Digest for Monday, September 26, 2016.
=20
1. New Posting: "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury, New Park, 1=
909 ???
=20
----------------------------------------------------------------------
=20
Subject: New Posting: "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury, New P=
ark, 1909 ???
From: Guyleslie@aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:45:43 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1
=20
New Posting: "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury, New Park,=20=
1909 ???
=20
Has anyone heard of the "Jewish Teachers' Training Centre" in Highbury,=20=
New Park, London in the early 20th Century? A relative supposedly receiv=
ed=20
her Teacher-Training there, and was also "Honorary Teacher of Religion"=20=
there, all between 1908-1911, but I can't find an record of the place. Sh=
e was=20
already 20, and had already taken University-level exams in Music, so its=
=20
unlikely this was just one of the 'Pupil-Teacher Training Centres' that w=
ere=20
being set up in the 1890's to concentrate & improve 'pupil-teacher'=20
training (and I haven't heard of a specifically Jewish one anyway; JFS tr=
ained=20
internally). It might have been a stand-alone Teacher-Training College=20=
(either 'associated' with a University after 1890, or a completely indepe=
ndent=20
LEA-created one after 1902), but I've never heard of a Jewish one, and=20=
Dr.Gerry Black specifically found that "no satisfactory Jewish teachers'=20=
training college was established then nor since". Any thoughts might be h=
elpful.
=20
Donald Press (New York)
Searching: PRESS/PRES (Skuodas/Seda/Plunge); HOFFMAN (South Africa & USA)=
;=20
OWSEOWITZ/OVSEYIOVICH (Silale); BRUKH/BRUCH (Plunge); MILNER (Silale);=20=
HART (London); DAVIDS (Amsterdam, London); BERMAN (Siauliai); LIPSCHITZ=20=
(Kursenai); PRESS/SILVERSTONE (Manchester/Liverpool); KLEINMAN/KLEYNMAN=20=
(Kraziai, USA, SA), LEVERSON/LEVINSON (Kovno, London)
=20
=20
---
=20
END OF DIGEST
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Re: Birlad Romania Archive? #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Hi Herb and all

This is a page of the Romanian National archives that forwards to the
different county branches:

<http://www.arhivelenationale.ro/index.php?page=3D44&lan=3D0>

One needs to figure out in which modern county the location is today,
and choose the respective branch >from the combo box.
Barlad is now in Vaslui county.

Regards

Sorin Goldenberg

Israel

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Herbert Weisberg
herb.weisberg@gmail.com <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is there an archive in Birlad? Or are there Birlad records
somewhere else?

Herb Weisberg
MODERATOR NOTE: The address, etc. for the Vaslui Archives is:

&#350;ef serviciu: Ancu&#355;a-Maria TRUIC&#258;
Adresa: Vaslui, Str. Mihail Kog&#259;lniceanu nr. 2, jud. Vaslui
Telefon: 0235/303.258
Fax: 0235/303.258
E-mail: vaslui@arhivelenationale.ro


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Birlad Romania Archive? #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Hi Herb and all

This is a page of the Romanian National archives that forwards to the
different county branches:

<http://www.arhivelenationale.ro/index.php?page=3D44&lan=3D0>

One needs to figure out in which modern county the location is today,
and choose the respective branch >from the combo box.
Barlad is now in Vaslui county.

Regards

Sorin Goldenberg

Israel

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Herbert Weisberg
herb.weisberg@gmail.com <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is there an archive in Birlad? Or are there Birlad records
somewhere else?

Herb Weisberg
MODERATOR NOTE: The address, etc. for the Vaslui Archives is:

&#350;ef serviciu: Ancu&#355;a-Maria TRUIC&#258;
Adresa: Vaslui, Str. Mihail Kog&#259;lniceanu nr. 2, jud. Vaslui
Telefon: 0235/303.258
Fax: 0235/303.258
E-mail: vaslui@arhivelenationale.ro


Re: Death records for Stillborns 1890 - 1900 NYC #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Paula Sharon Langer wrote:
Were there birth/death records kept for stillborns and/or babies who died soon
after birth? My great grandparents, Richard Langer and Fannie Peterfreund, lost 2
-3 babies between 1893-1895. I have found their other 8 children - including one
who only lived for 11 months.


We have discussed this before I believe (you can check the Discussion Group
Archives). No it was not until the 20th century that NYC started keeping
independent records of stillborns. Remember in the 1890s most children are born at
home with a midwife and in fact that Archives they estimate as many as a quarter of
all births went unreported in this era. If there was going to be any death record
it would be in with the normal death certificates but those normally were not
issued unless the child was alive for a period of time.
Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Death records for Stillborns 1890 - 1900 NYC #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Paula Sharon Langer wrote:
Were there birth/death records kept for stillborns and/or babies who died soon
after birth? My great grandparents, Richard Langer and Fannie Peterfreund, lost 2
-3 babies between 1893-1895. I have found their other 8 children - including one
who only lived for 11 months.


We have discussed this before I believe (you can check the Discussion Group
Archives). No it was not until the 20th century that NYC started keeping
independent records of stillborns. Remember in the 1890s most children are born at
home with a midwife and in fact that Archives they estimate as many as a quarter of
all births went unreported in this era. If there was going to be any death record
it would be in with the normal death certificates but those normally were not
issued unless the child was alive for a period of time.
Allan Jordan


old Kovno cheder photo posted to viewmate #lithuania

David Marinoff <david.marinoff@...>
 

I posted a section of a photo that I believe was taken in ~1895 in
Kovno of an ancestor's cheder class. Link is here:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50355

Would be happy to email or dropbox a high resolution shot of the full
picture to anyone interested. (I have no idea how uncommon these
pictures are.) Would also love confirmation or any information on the
school if someone could point me in the right direction. (I'm new to
this.) Family name was Ettiss - Myer, Tzippe, Charles and Sophie. In
the US by the early 1900s.

Sincerely,

David Marinoff
New York

email to: david.marinoff@gmail.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania old Kovno cheder photo posted to viewmate #lithuania

David Marinoff <david.marinoff@...>
 

I posted a section of a photo that I believe was taken in ~1895 in
Kovno of an ancestor's cheder class. Link is here:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50355

Would be happy to email or dropbox a high resolution shot of the full
picture to anyone interested. (I have no idea how uncommon these
pictures are.) Would also love confirmation or any information on the
school if someone could point me in the right direction. (I'm new to
this.) Family name was Ettiss - Myer, Tzippe, Charles and Sophie. In
the US by the early 1900s.

Sincerely,

David Marinoff
New York

email to: david.marinoff@gmail.com


Russian translation ViewMate request #poland

Steven A. Zedeck <steven@...>
 

Hi,
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I'd like a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50367

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Steve


JRI Poland #Poland Russian translation ViewMate request #poland

Steven A. Zedeck <steven@...>
 

Hi,
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I'd like a
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50367

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Steve


Cifer (Slovakia) - community book #hungary

Tomer Brunner
 

Shalom H-Siggers,


Cifer is a village in Slovakia, in Trnava area.


I happen to notice that a handwritten community book >from Cifer,

from the mid-late 19th century, and maybe even >from earlier years,
is on auction later **today**, in an Israeli auction house


If anyone has an interest or wants more details - please let me know


Some of my relatives, of the LANDSTEIN family, used to live there.


I do not know who is the owner of this book and have no personal benefit of=
this sale


Thanks,

Tomer Brunner, Israel

Moderator: Please contact Tomer off-list if this is of interest to you.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Cifer (Slovakia) - community book #hungary

Tomer Brunner
 

Shalom H-Siggers,


Cifer is a village in Slovakia, in Trnava area.


I happen to notice that a handwritten community book >from Cifer,

from the mid-late 19th century, and maybe even >from earlier years,
is on auction later **today**, in an Israeli auction house


If anyone has an interest or wants more details - please let me know


Some of my relatives, of the LANDSTEIN family, used to live there.


I do not know who is the owner of this book and have no personal benefit of=
this sale


Thanks,

Tomer Brunner, Israel

Moderator: Please contact Tomer off-list if this is of interest to you.


Barbados Genealogy #sephardic

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Is anyone researching family that lived on the island of Barbados in the
Caribbean Sea? Please e-mail me if you are.

Have a Good Shabbos,

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland USA


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Barbados Genealogy #sephardic

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Is anyone researching family that lived on the island of Barbados in the
Caribbean Sea? Please e-mail me if you are.

Have a Good Shabbos,

Carol Rombro Rider
Baltimore, Maryland USA


Shoshana Gross of Melrose Park, PA #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Shoshana Gross, a
great-granddaughter of Morris Jacobowitz, descendants of the Ashkenazi
rabbinical family.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Shoshana Gross of Melrose Park, PA #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Shoshana Gross, a
great-granddaughter of Morris Jacobowitz, descendants of the Ashkenazi
rabbinical family.

--
Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.


Looking for Zara SMUSHKOVICH #latvia

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi All

I am looking for my first cousin Zara SMUSHKOVICH and her family >from
Latvia. Zara moved to Israel in 1973 and then moved to Canada a few
years later.

Zara SMUSHKOVICH born 1938
Her husband is Meir ben Avraham SMUSHKOVICH b 1931
Daughter - Mira SMUSHKOVICH b 1958
Daughter - Ala SMUSHKOVICH b 1964
Zara’s mother is Esphir ZELDINA born 1912

The Facebook post for this is:
https://www.facebook.com/elirab1/posts/10154421922401070
where you can see their photos.

If you know where they are or have come across them, please reply to
eli@elirab.com

Thanks

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


Latvia SIG #Latvia Looking for Zara SMUSHKOVICH #latvia

Eli Rabinowitz
 

Hi All

I am looking for my first cousin Zara SMUSHKOVICH and her family >from
Latvia. Zara moved to Israel in 1973 and then moved to Canada a few
years later.

Zara SMUSHKOVICH born 1938
Her husband is Meir ben Avraham SMUSHKOVICH b 1931
Daughter - Mira SMUSHKOVICH b 1958
Daughter - Ala SMUSHKOVICH b 1964
Zara’s mother is Esphir ZELDINA born 1912

The Facebook post for this is:
https://www.facebook.com/elirab1/posts/10154421922401070
where you can see their photos.

If you know where they are or have come across them, please reply to
eli@elirab.com

Thanks

Eli Rabinowitz
Perth, Australia


ViewMate translation request - Hebrew on tombstone #general

bender.alexp@...
 

I've posted a picture of the tombstone of my great-grandmother's sister, and I
would appreciate a translation (Hebrew to English). It is on ViewMate at the
following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50354

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Alex Bender
San Francisco, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Hebrew on tombstone #general

bender.alexp@...
 

I've posted a picture of the tombstone of my great-grandmother's sister, and I
would appreciate a translation (Hebrew to English). It is on ViewMate at the
following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50354

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Alex Bender
San Francisco, CA

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