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FF--This is what it's all about!!! #general

Ronisl@...
 

Dear JGenners,

Born in Deblin, Poland in 1940, J lived his childhood years in the midst of
war. He and his mother survived when, near the end of the war, the train
that was to transport them >from the ghetto to the death camp never arrived.
With all the confusion before the Nazi's defeat, they were forgotten. His
father who was born in Radom, wasn't as lucky and died in transit to
Buchenwald. After the war, his father's family in Southern Rhodesia
(Zimbabwe) extended an invitation and made generous arrangements for them to
come. However, his mother longed for her own family and so, instead, they
went to Colombia where she had siblings. Embarrassed and not wanting the
family in South Africa to think she was ungrateful, she soon lost touch with
them. Her son left for studies in the US in 1968 and his mother died in 1980.
J believed that, except for those in S.R., all his father's relatives perished
in the war. He recently gave testimony for Spielberg's Shoah, which brought
his early memories to the fore. The interviewer suggested he look up his
surname in JewishGen Family Finder. He was thrilled and apprehensive when he
saw the name URBACH and a listing for Radom. With great trepidation, he sent
a post. I didn't think too much about it when I got his first one since
URBACH/AUERBACH was such a common Jewish name in Poland. Then he told me
about the relatives in S.R. He also had his mom's 1947 address book, which
listed an A Urbach with a box number in Salisbury, S.R. Now I was getting
excited. I e-mailed relatives in South Africa who confirmed this as an old
address belonging to an uncle who lived there. Cautiously at first, but soon
tripping over our statements in our growing enthusiasm, we spoke for over an
hour this morning. He started recalling stories about the family he heard as
a child, and these are many of the the same stories I knew well. However,
as hard as he tries, he cannot recall the names of his paternal grandparents
--names he thought he'd never forget. He said when he realized he didn't
remember them, he panicked--a piece of him was gone. He was devastated. What
better purpose for JGen then to return to him a piece of his history and to
ensure that his family is never forgotten. I'm confident that through JRI-
Indexing and records directly >from Poland, we'll be able to discover the names
of his grandparents and determine how he connects with his new-found family.
This man, who didn't think he had another living relative, has a huge
family--many living nearby--eager to embrace him. We'll be meeting in 2
weeks.
Please--list your names and towns on Family Finder-- one of your relatives may
be looking.
Happy Thanksgiving to all
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
New York
URBACK (AUERBACH,URBACH) --We'grow, Warsaw, Radom, PO; Zimbabwe; KULSKY-- (?)
PO; BILSKY (PRZYBYLSKI) --Belchatow to Lodz, PO; PIASKOWSKY-- Belchatow,
PO; SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER -- Klimontow, Sandermierz, PO; Grebow,
Baronov, Rozwadow, Zukow, Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER), MECHANIC -- Minsk,
Belarus; PERLMAN, GORDON--Liepaja, Latvia; LIEBOWITZ-- Minsk and Dubrovah,
Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FF--This is what it's all about!!! #general

Ronisl@...
 

Dear JGenners,

Born in Deblin, Poland in 1940, J lived his childhood years in the midst of
war. He and his mother survived when, near the end of the war, the train
that was to transport them >from the ghetto to the death camp never arrived.
With all the confusion before the Nazi's defeat, they were forgotten. His
father who was born in Radom, wasn't as lucky and died in transit to
Buchenwald. After the war, his father's family in Southern Rhodesia
(Zimbabwe) extended an invitation and made generous arrangements for them to
come. However, his mother longed for her own family and so, instead, they
went to Colombia where she had siblings. Embarrassed and not wanting the
family in South Africa to think she was ungrateful, she soon lost touch with
them. Her son left for studies in the US in 1968 and his mother died in 1980.
J believed that, except for those in S.R., all his father's relatives perished
in the war. He recently gave testimony for Spielberg's Shoah, which brought
his early memories to the fore. The interviewer suggested he look up his
surname in JewishGen Family Finder. He was thrilled and apprehensive when he
saw the name URBACH and a listing for Radom. With great trepidation, he sent
a post. I didn't think too much about it when I got his first one since
URBACH/AUERBACH was such a common Jewish name in Poland. Then he told me
about the relatives in S.R. He also had his mom's 1947 address book, which
listed an A Urbach with a box number in Salisbury, S.R. Now I was getting
excited. I e-mailed relatives in South Africa who confirmed this as an old
address belonging to an uncle who lived there. Cautiously at first, but soon
tripping over our statements in our growing enthusiasm, we spoke for over an
hour this morning. He started recalling stories about the family he heard as
a child, and these are many of the the same stories I knew well. However,
as hard as he tries, he cannot recall the names of his paternal grandparents
--names he thought he'd never forget. He said when he realized he didn't
remember them, he panicked--a piece of him was gone. He was devastated. What
better purpose for JGen then to return to him a piece of his history and to
ensure that his family is never forgotten. I'm confident that through JRI-
Indexing and records directly >from Poland, we'll be able to discover the names
of his grandparents and determine how he connects with his new-found family.
This man, who didn't think he had another living relative, has a huge
family--many living nearby--eager to embrace him. We'll be meeting in 2
weeks.
Please--list your names and towns on Family Finder-- one of your relatives may
be looking.
Happy Thanksgiving to all
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
New York
URBACK (AUERBACH,URBACH) --We'grow, Warsaw, Radom, PO; Zimbabwe; KULSKY-- (?)
PO; BILSKY (PRZYBYLSKI) --Belchatow to Lodz, PO; PIASKOWSKY-- Belchatow,
PO; SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER -- Klimontow, Sandermierz, PO; Grebow,
Baronov, Rozwadow, Zukow, Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER), MECHANIC -- Minsk,
Belarus; PERLMAN, GORDON--Liepaja, Latvia; LIEBOWITZ-- Minsk and Dubrovah,
Belarus


Hersh vs Gersh #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

I have heard that the name Hersh does not really exist in
Russian and that it is Gersh. The use of Hersh is a 'yiddishized'
adaptation. Since this might be important in Russian research,
does anyone know if this is correct?
Howard

Howard M. Rensin,
Glenwood,MD
hrensin@erols.com
Searching: RENSIN,RENZIN,KALLET,KALETZKY,KLIAZKO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hersh vs Gersh #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

I have heard that the name Hersh does not really exist in
Russian and that it is Gersh. The use of Hersh is a 'yiddishized'
adaptation. Since this might be important in Russian research,
does anyone know if this is correct?
Howard

Howard M. Rensin,
Glenwood,MD
hrensin@erols.com
Searching: RENSIN,RENZIN,KALLET,KALETZKY,KLIAZKO


Brooklyn #general

Burt Zolotar
 

I have just been forwarded an old picture and printed material >from a
family in England who think that they are relatives but we're not sure
at this point. The picture is of their relative a B ZOLOTAR who appears
to have been the President and Chairmen of the Board of the First
Romener Ind. Ben. Association of Brooklyn. The Association appears to
have been located at 609 Willougby Avenue of Brooklyn, NY. My guess on
the picture would be that it is >from the 1920s or 1930s. Can anyone shed
some light on what this organization was and possibly whether it still
exists? I will have the picture and printed material available on the
InterNet sometime later this week.

My grandfather was named Boris ZOLOTAR and he lived in Brooklyn at that
time. He died in 1932. If possible please respond to me directly at

bzolotar@best.com

Thanks.

Burt Zolotar
Menlo Park, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn #general

Burt Zolotar
 

I have just been forwarded an old picture and printed material >from a
family in England who think that they are relatives but we're not sure
at this point. The picture is of their relative a B ZOLOTAR who appears
to have been the President and Chairmen of the Board of the First
Romener Ind. Ben. Association of Brooklyn. The Association appears to
have been located at 609 Willougby Avenue of Brooklyn, NY. My guess on
the picture would be that it is >from the 1920s or 1930s. Can anyone shed
some light on what this organization was and possibly whether it still
exists? I will have the picture and printed material available on the
InterNet sometime later this week.

My grandfather was named Boris ZOLOTAR and he lived in Brooklyn at that
time. He died in 1932. If possible please respond to me directly at

bzolotar@best.com

Thanks.

Burt Zolotar
Menlo Park, CA


ROSENZWEIG - FAITLOVICH connection? #general

Joe Barcomb & Julie Waters-Barcomb <jwb@...>
 

Hi
I'm researching ROSENZWEIG >from Lodz, Poland. I know that Ruchel
Rosenzweig was married to Schmuel around 1875. They had 6 children and
somehow are related to FAITLOVICH. I've researched as much as I can and
still can't locate the connection. Any information would be appreciated.
Julie

Julie Waters-Barcomb


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSENZWEIG - FAITLOVICH connection? #general

Joe Barcomb & Julie Waters-Barcomb <jwb@...>
 

Hi
I'm researching ROSENZWEIG >from Lodz, Poland. I know that Ruchel
Rosenzweig was married to Schmuel around 1875. They had 6 children and
somehow are related to FAITLOVICH. I've researched as much as I can and
still can't locate the connection. Any information would be appreciated.
Julie

Julie Waters-Barcomb


Searching:NAGURNEY #general

Pyotr@...
 

I am researching the name NAGURNEY. The name is found on the CJSI,
Avotaynu index, and in Alexander Beider's book"Jewish surnames in the
Kingdom of Poland." Does this mean that all people with the surname
NAGURNEY are of Jewish descent, or is the name common in Poland and
Russia among both Jews and non-Jews. There are of course many ways to
spell this surname, including NAGORNY, NAGOURNEY,NAGURNY, NAGORNYJ, and
a few others. If anyone can help me answer this question, " Are all of
the NAGURNEY'S Jewish?" I would appreciate your help.

Thank you my Friends,
Peter Nagurney
Syracuse, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching:NAGURNEY #general

Pyotr@...
 

I am researching the name NAGURNEY. The name is found on the CJSI,
Avotaynu index, and in Alexander Beider's book"Jewish surnames in the
Kingdom of Poland." Does this mean that all people with the surname
NAGURNEY are of Jewish descent, or is the name common in Poland and
Russia among both Jews and non-Jews. There are of course many ways to
spell this surname, including NAGORNY, NAGOURNEY,NAGURNY, NAGORNYJ, and
a few others. If anyone can help me answer this question, " Are all of
the NAGURNEY'S Jewish?" I would appreciate your help.

Thank you my Friends,
Peter Nagurney
Syracuse, NY


Social Security Information - CFP Reply #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

On Sunday, 22 Nov.98 "IsraelP" p2o5rock@netvision.net.il
in message 46 wrote, in pertinent part:

Is there any way at all (not just online) to get information
from Social Security based on a search for the surname used
at the time the SS-5 was filed? (In fact, they should also
know when the change was made, which could help us learn
approximate marriage dates. But I'm not going to be greedy.)
Does FOIA empower the public to (excuse the expression)
demand this?

Dear Israel:

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 USC 552, Et Seq., allows the
public to request any/all legitimate records a/o files >from an agencies
records keeping systems. Whether the agency involved can actually find
the requested material/s is another matter altogether. The agency can,
as a matter of law and regulation, exempt a/o sanitize records that they
deem classified or protected under the Privacy Act.

You may, of course, challenge their decision/s first administratively
and, if you feel you have received no satisfaction, may then proceed to
take the agency to Federal Court on a "demand" to disclose. It should be
noted that even when an agency refuses to "legitimately" disclose, they
are obligated by law to supply you with that part of the information
that a reasonable weigher of facts would consider non-exempted. They
must also inform you of their specific reason/s for said action/s thru
enumeration of the provisions they are acting under.

In my private law firm, and in the activities of the non-profit human
rights law group that I am Deputy Director of, we file FOIA requests all
the time. Where the information being sought is clearly and concisely
stated, and accurate identifying information provided, most agencies and
departments usually reply to our queries in satisfactory way.

It also helps to make certain that the agency you are writing is the one
actually holding the records being sought. This may appear to be a silly
thing to stress, but with passage of time and the archival nature of
many records their occurs shifts in control of records >from one agency
to another. Also, in some cases, records are held at the local or
District Office level in lieu of the Washington, DC level. As such, in
our firm we always file our requests with DC and the relevant District
Office.

In this vein it is helpful to indicate in your request the changed names
of the agencies in question, i.e., pointing out that records held by
the Dept. of Health, Education & Welfare, by example, might now be held
by the Dept of Health and Human Services a/o the Dept of Education.
Likewise, that records held by the US Agency for International
Development in the period 1960-1975 approx may be held by the Central
Intelligence Agency a/o the Dept of Defense.

I hope this information is of some help. Just remember that in many
cases you are now dealing with very young officers who have very little,
if any, information on the history of their own agency and its holdings.

Best regards,

Charles F. Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493

Seeking:(1) YARESHEFSKY, Sam/David/Morris - Odessa, Russia
Alternatively: YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY,
JAROSHEVSKY,JAROCHEWSKI ERESHEFSKY, YARREY, YAROSH, YARESH.

(2) WOLCZEK, Sarah/Eva/Molly/Herman/Lena/Pauline - Warsaw, Poland
Alternatively: WOLCZYK, WALCZEK, WALLACK, WALLACH, WILCZEK, WILCZYK.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Social Security Information - CFP Reply #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

On Sunday, 22 Nov.98 "IsraelP" p2o5rock@netvision.net.il
in message 46 wrote, in pertinent part:

Is there any way at all (not just online) to get information
from Social Security based on a search for the surname used
at the time the SS-5 was filed? (In fact, they should also
know when the change was made, which could help us learn
approximate marriage dates. But I'm not going to be greedy.)
Does FOIA empower the public to (excuse the expression)
demand this?

Dear Israel:

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 USC 552, Et Seq., allows the
public to request any/all legitimate records a/o files >from an agencies
records keeping systems. Whether the agency involved can actually find
the requested material/s is another matter altogether. The agency can,
as a matter of law and regulation, exempt a/o sanitize records that they
deem classified or protected under the Privacy Act.

You may, of course, challenge their decision/s first administratively
and, if you feel you have received no satisfaction, may then proceed to
take the agency to Federal Court on a "demand" to disclose. It should be
noted that even when an agency refuses to "legitimately" disclose, they
are obligated by law to supply you with that part of the information
that a reasonable weigher of facts would consider non-exempted. They
must also inform you of their specific reason/s for said action/s thru
enumeration of the provisions they are acting under.

In my private law firm, and in the activities of the non-profit human
rights law group that I am Deputy Director of, we file FOIA requests all
the time. Where the information being sought is clearly and concisely
stated, and accurate identifying information provided, most agencies and
departments usually reply to our queries in satisfactory way.

It also helps to make certain that the agency you are writing is the one
actually holding the records being sought. This may appear to be a silly
thing to stress, but with passage of time and the archival nature of
many records their occurs shifts in control of records >from one agency
to another. Also, in some cases, records are held at the local or
District Office level in lieu of the Washington, DC level. As such, in
our firm we always file our requests with DC and the relevant District
Office.

In this vein it is helpful to indicate in your request the changed names
of the agencies in question, i.e., pointing out that records held by
the Dept. of Health, Education & Welfare, by example, might now be held
by the Dept of Health and Human Services a/o the Dept of Education.
Likewise, that records held by the US Agency for International
Development in the period 1960-1975 approx may be held by the Central
Intelligence Agency a/o the Dept of Defense.

I hope this information is of some help. Just remember that in many
cases you are now dealing with very young officers who have very little,
if any, information on the history of their own agency and its holdings.

Best regards,

Charles F. Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493

Seeking:(1) YARESHEFSKY, Sam/David/Morris - Odessa, Russia
Alternatively: YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY,
JAROSHEVSKY,JAROCHEWSKI ERESHEFSKY, YARREY, YAROSH, YARESH.

(2) WOLCZEK, Sarah/Eva/Molly/Herman/Lena/Pauline - Warsaw, Poland
Alternatively: WOLCZYK, WALCZEK, WALLACK, WALLACH, WILCZEK, WILCZYK.


Re: Neshviz and other shtetlach #general

Ralph Berrick <rbofrb@...>
 

You can find the information, by going to www.expediamaps.com
Click on the item requesting search for cities, you will then get a
window asking for name and location. Type in the name of the shtetl,
and Belarus, and you will then get a map showing it's location, although
they list the spelling as Nesvish, rather than Neshiv.
Hope this helps.
Ralph Berrick
San Diego, Ca.
Searching: BERRICK -Ylakia ( Russia, Lithuania)
HOROWITZ - Ylakiai (Russia - Lithuania)

Chuck Weinstein wrote:

Does anyone know the specific location of Neshviz? Where can
I find additional information on this town?
Thanks, Tina GAM
researching: GAM, GAMM, SEID(Russia/Poland)
Tina (and all other readers of this Digest),
The first place I would look is on the ShtetLinks page
(www.jewishgen.org/ShtetLinks/) where I would discover
a link to Neshvizh, Belarus.

Chuck Weinstein
JewishGen ShtetLinks Coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Neshviz and other shtetlach #general

Ralph Berrick <rbofrb@...>
 

You can find the information, by going to www.expediamaps.com
Click on the item requesting search for cities, you will then get a
window asking for name and location. Type in the name of the shtetl,
and Belarus, and you will then get a map showing it's location, although
they list the spelling as Nesvish, rather than Neshiv.
Hope this helps.
Ralph Berrick
San Diego, Ca.
Searching: BERRICK -Ylakia ( Russia, Lithuania)
HOROWITZ - Ylakiai (Russia - Lithuania)

Chuck Weinstein wrote:

Does anyone know the specific location of Neshviz? Where can
I find additional information on this town?
Thanks, Tina GAM
researching: GAM, GAMM, SEID(Russia/Poland)
Tina (and all other readers of this Digest),
The first place I would look is on the ShtetLinks page
(www.jewishgen.org/ShtetLinks/) where I would discover
a link to Neshvizh, Belarus.

Chuck Weinstein
JewishGen ShtetLinks Coordinator


Whys and wherefores of Jewish immigration to Canada #general

Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,
I am looking for information re Jewish immigration patterns >from Europe to
Canada, especially during the second half of the 19th century. I am
assuming that the major waves of Jewish immigration to Canada took place
after the first World War as a result of the restricted quotas on entrance
to the U.S. What were the circumstances that resulted in earlier Jewish
immigration to Canada as opposed to the U.S., the destination chosen by the
majority of Jews >from Eastern Europe?

I am not referring to the use of Canada as a transit point on the way to the
U.S., but to those who remained permanently in Canada. I have been told that
there were restrictions on entry to the U.S. prior to 1900, but I am not
sure that this is correct. Could someone please enlighten me on this point.
Also, I am very interested in reading accounts of the Jewish immigration
experience in Canada, and would appreciate some suggestions.

Thanks to all who can enlighten me on this subject.
Barbara Siegel
Jerusalem

Searching: FRIEDLANDER/Ventspils, LEVINSON/Grobin,Ventspils,
HERTZBERG/Tukums, BERSHADSKY/Tulchin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Whys and wherefores of Jewish immigration to Canada #general

Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,
I am looking for information re Jewish immigration patterns >from Europe to
Canada, especially during the second half of the 19th century. I am
assuming that the major waves of Jewish immigration to Canada took place
after the first World War as a result of the restricted quotas on entrance
to the U.S. What were the circumstances that resulted in earlier Jewish
immigration to Canada as opposed to the U.S., the destination chosen by the
majority of Jews >from Eastern Europe?

I am not referring to the use of Canada as a transit point on the way to the
U.S., but to those who remained permanently in Canada. I have been told that
there were restrictions on entry to the U.S. prior to 1900, but I am not
sure that this is correct. Could someone please enlighten me on this point.
Also, I am very interested in reading accounts of the Jewish immigration
experience in Canada, and would appreciate some suggestions.

Thanks to all who can enlighten me on this subject.
Barbara Siegel
Jerusalem

Searching: FRIEDLANDER/Ventspils, LEVINSON/Grobin,Ventspils,
HERTZBERG/Tukums, BERSHADSKY/Tulchin


Need Hebrew Translator #general

Beverly Stuart <bstuart@...>
 

Hi all,

I am searching for someone who can translate a letter >from English into
Hebrew for me. I'll pay whatever seems fair. Please respond privately.

Thank you,
Beverly Stuart
Tacoma, Washington


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Hebrew Translator #general

Beverly Stuart <bstuart@...>
 

Hi all,

I am searching for someone who can translate a letter >from English into
Hebrew for me. I'll pay whatever seems fair. Please respond privately.

Thank you,
Beverly Stuart
Tacoma, Washington


Greenblatt Family. #lithuania

Alice Borden <asborden@...>
 

If this is a help to anyone, my grandfather's first cousin Rebecca
Sagowitz was married to Samuel Greenblatt.
Alice Sager Borden

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Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Greenblatt Family. #lithuania

Alice Borden <asborden@...>
 

If this is a help to anyone, my grandfather's first cousin Rebecca
Sagowitz was married to Samuel Greenblatt.
Alice Sager Borden

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