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help #general

kollel toras chesed <kollel@...>
 

Dear JewishGen,
My wife's family tree goes back to the 1500's which includes many
prominent rabbinic figures mentioned in works like Shem Hagadolim
and Toldot Kihilat Polanya. I would like to know if there is any
way to find out information about those who are more obscure. Also
is there any way to find connecting branches?
Thank you
Aron Rosenberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen help #general

kollel toras chesed <kollel@...>
 

Dear JewishGen,
My wife's family tree goes back to the 1500's which includes many
prominent rabbinic figures mentioned in works like Shem Hagadolim
and Toldot Kihilat Polanya. I would like to know if there is any
way to find out information about those who are more obscure. Also
is there any way to find connecting branches?
Thank you
Aron Rosenberg


Looking for Ettie and Sam GROSSMAN #general

Glezmah@...
 

Want to re-contact Ettie GROSSMAN of the Toronto area. Formerly lived on
Bathurst two years ago and moved. Unable to locate. Daughters are Pamela and
Debbie. ETTIE is the daughter of the late FLORENCE and HARRY ABRAMS of
Montreal.

Thank you,

Arlene B. Edwards
Mission Viejo, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Ettie and Sam GROSSMAN #general

Glezmah@...
 

Want to re-contact Ettie GROSSMAN of the Toronto area. Formerly lived on
Bathurst two years ago and moved. Unable to locate. Daughters are Pamela and
Debbie. ETTIE is the daughter of the late FLORENCE and HARRY ABRAMS of
Montreal.

Thank you,

Arlene B. Edwards
Mission Viejo, CA


Re: Ancestors in Lumber Business #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

Thanks to everybody who emailed me on the questions I posed, especially on
the lumber business. It seems that both families were rather wealthy by
standards of those days, and it seemed that they were not just overseers
but had lumbering as a business, whether contracted by "the czar" or
whatever I don't know. The Shapiros lived in Surazh on the Iput' River,
which explains the connection to lumbering I suppose. My great-grandfather
branched out into owning a little hotel in town (10 rooms)and had a soap
"factory." I have a feeling he branched out into these areas after his
father died and left him and his brothers a hefty inheritance..... This
situation in lumbering might also explain my lack of success in finding
other Shapiros we are related to in that area. It would appear that they
were a branch that had moved to Surazh >from elsewhere up towards Lithuania
to set up a branch of the lumber business in a very lucrative area. The
Faitelsons were up in the Borisov area, and must have been in similar
circumstances.

Let no one think that Jews have a tradition of being lumberjacks!! I am
sure they either owned the lumber the lumberjacks worked on, or managed the
company......

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Ancestors in Lumber Business #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

Thanks to everybody who emailed me on the questions I posed, especially on
the lumber business. It seems that both families were rather wealthy by
standards of those days, and it seemed that they were not just overseers
but had lumbering as a business, whether contracted by "the czar" or
whatever I don't know. The Shapiros lived in Surazh on the Iput' River,
which explains the connection to lumbering I suppose. My great-grandfather
branched out into owning a little hotel in town (10 rooms)and had a soap
"factory." I have a feeling he branched out into these areas after his
father died and left him and his brothers a hefty inheritance..... This
situation in lumbering might also explain my lack of success in finding
other Shapiros we are related to in that area. It would appear that they
were a branch that had moved to Surazh >from elsewhere up towards Lithuania
to set up a branch of the lumber business in a very lucrative area. The
Faitelsons were up in the Borisov area, and must have been in similar
circumstances.

Let no one think that Jews have a tradition of being lumberjacks!! I am
sure they either owned the lumber the lumberjacks worked on, or managed the
company......

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


Re: lumber #general

shimonoz
 

I was wondering what folks may have to say about the Jewish profession in
the lumber business....Message 3.12.98
For once I'm happy that not all providers had to be "Makolnik", grocery shop.
Secondly how many Jews could actually be in that business logic & common
sense indicates not much. My father-in-law Nikolai Hodorovski was one of
them, born in Kiev, moved to Riga. My ex-wife does not remember much of
him.& thirdly what kind of a name he was given? Nikolai???

Shimon Ouziel
Tel Aviv Yaffo Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: lumber #general

shimonoz
 

I was wondering what folks may have to say about the Jewish profession in
the lumber business....Message 3.12.98
For once I'm happy that not all providers had to be "Makolnik", grocery shop.
Secondly how many Jews could actually be in that business logic & common
sense indicates not much. My father-in-law Nikolai Hodorovski was one of
them, born in Kiev, moved to Riga. My ex-wife does not remember much of
him.& thirdly what kind of a name he was given? Nikolai???

Shimon Ouziel
Tel Aviv Yaffo Israel


Re: Russian Jews in Lumber Business #general

Joan Levin <jlevin@...>
 

A description of what was involved for Jews occupied in the lumber
business in Russia is described in Shmarya Levin's wonderful
autobiography "Childhood In Exile". Both the job and the family life are
described in detail, as one of his grandfathers was thus employed. He
worked for a wealthy landowner on the river between Odessa and Kiev:
his job, if I remember correctly, was to travel to land which his
employer was considering purchasing, and to assess the value. I read
this long ago, but I think I am correct in saying that he also had power
over the actual cutting and moving of the lumber on the river, and was
responsible for hiring and supervising the workers.

He gives wonderful family history information; unfortunately I found
nothing to link this family with mine.

Joann Levin
Ellsworth, ME


Is this your Harry BROWN? #general

Hnbrown@...
 

Hello,

I have SS-5's for two men named Harry BROWN, neither of whom belongs to me.
Are they yours?

One is Harry James Francis BROWN, of Pittsburgh, PA. Mother is Rose Mary
Schafer, father is Harry Russel BROWN. Born July 1, 1895.

The other is Harry Barnhart BROWN, b. 12/12/1896, living at 320 E. Montana St.
in Philadelphia. Dad is George T. Brown, mom is Mame Leah Barnhart.

I'll be glad to send these to their owners.
--Harriet Brown
Madison, WI
hnbrown@aol.com

Researching:
BRUCHANSKY/BRAHINSKY/BROWN Priluki-->NJ, Philadelphia
INWENTARZ/ANTARSH/EVANTASH Ciechanow area, Poland --> Camden, NJ, Phila.
KHAZANOVICH Ukraine
SENDROWICZ Poland, Israel, USA??
DOLGIN Ukraine
RHOOTEU/RUTA? Poland and others


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russian Jews in Lumber Business #general

Joan Levin <jlevin@...>
 

A description of what was involved for Jews occupied in the lumber
business in Russia is described in Shmarya Levin's wonderful
autobiography "Childhood In Exile". Both the job and the family life are
described in detail, as one of his grandfathers was thus employed. He
worked for a wealthy landowner on the river between Odessa and Kiev:
his job, if I remember correctly, was to travel to land which his
employer was considering purchasing, and to assess the value. I read
this long ago, but I think I am correct in saying that he also had power
over the actual cutting and moving of the lumber on the river, and was
responsible for hiring and supervising the workers.

He gives wonderful family history information; unfortunately I found
nothing to link this family with mine.

Joann Levin
Ellsworth, ME


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is this your Harry BROWN? #general

Hnbrown@...
 

Hello,

I have SS-5's for two men named Harry BROWN, neither of whom belongs to me.
Are they yours?

One is Harry James Francis BROWN, of Pittsburgh, PA. Mother is Rose Mary
Schafer, father is Harry Russel BROWN. Born July 1, 1895.

The other is Harry Barnhart BROWN, b. 12/12/1896, living at 320 E. Montana St.
in Philadelphia. Dad is George T. Brown, mom is Mame Leah Barnhart.

I'll be glad to send these to their owners.
--Harriet Brown
Madison, WI
hnbrown@aol.com

Researching:
BRUCHANSKY/BRAHINSKY/BROWN Priluki-->NJ, Philadelphia
INWENTARZ/ANTARSH/EVANTASH Ciechanow area, Poland --> Camden, NJ, Phila.
KHAZANOVICH Ukraine
SENDROWICZ Poland, Israel, USA??
DOLGIN Ukraine
RHOOTEU/RUTA? Poland and others


LISS and ALHADEFF and OBERMAN, Family Trees #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

In my search for family, I have been looking for relatives
named LISS and ALHADEFF. In so doing, I have assembled brief
versions of the family trees of people by these last names.
Let me know if you'd like me to send you an e-mail version of
these trees, or if you'd like to add your own data.

Dan Kazez

(KAZEZ/KAZES, ALHADEFF/ALHADEF, FRESKO/FRESCO)
(OBERMAN/GUBERMAN, TALMAN/TALLMAN, LISS, KEIFER)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LISS and ALHADEFF and OBERMAN, Family Trees #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

In my search for family, I have been looking for relatives
named LISS and ALHADEFF. In so doing, I have assembled brief
versions of the family trees of people by these last names.
Let me know if you'd like me to send you an e-mail version of
these trees, or if you'd like to add your own data.

Dan Kazez

(KAZEZ/KAZES, ALHADEFF/ALHADEF, FRESKO/FRESCO)
(OBERMAN/GUBERMAN, TALMAN/TALLMAN, LISS, KEIFER)


Review: Jews of Budszentmihaly #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIGers,

Today I bought a book by Laszlo Harsanyi, A budszentmihalyi hitkozseg tortenete.
(The History of the Jewish Community of Budszentmihaly) Budapest, 1976.

It is a short study (30 pages) of the Jews of Budszentmihaly, now called
Tiszavasvari. It was home of one of the greatest Yeshivot, Talmudical academies
under the leadership of Rabbi Shimeon Gruenfeld ZTz”L. He was one of the
greatest halahist (specialist of the Jewish law), he wrote more than 2000
responsa, answers to questions concerning matters of the Jewish law.

If you need a look up, please write a private e-mail.

Gyuri
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com
Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, KONIGSTEIN, FEIN, POLLAK, REICH,
BARANY, CUCAK
DRACH, PURJESZ, PORGES/Z, PORJES/Z, BISCHITZ, GOLDSCHMIED, IRITZ,
SOMMER


Hungary SIG #Hungary Review: Jews of Budszentmihaly #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIGers,

Today I bought a book by Laszlo Harsanyi, A budszentmihalyi hitkozseg tortenete.
(The History of the Jewish Community of Budszentmihaly) Budapest, 1976.

It is a short study (30 pages) of the Jews of Budszentmihaly, now called
Tiszavasvari. It was home of one of the greatest Yeshivot, Talmudical academies
under the leadership of Rabbi Shimeon Gruenfeld ZTz”L. He was one of the
greatest halahist (specialist of the Jewish law), he wrote more than 2000
responsa, answers to questions concerning matters of the Jewish law.

If you need a look up, please write a private e-mail.

Gyuri
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com
Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, KONIGSTEIN, FEIN, POLLAK, REICH,
BARANY, CUCAK
DRACH, PURJESZ, PORGES/Z, PORJES/Z, BISCHITZ, GOLDSCHMIED, IRITZ,
SOMMER


Jews from Hajdu cities #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIGers,

Today I bought another book by Laszlo Harsanyi, Adalekok a hajduvarosok
zsidosaganak tortenetehez. (Additions to the History of the Jews of the
Hajdu Cities.) Budapest, 1970.

It contains short historiographical descriptions of the following towns:
Hajduboszormeny
Hajdunanas
Hajduszoboszlo
Hajduhadhaz
Vamospercs
Hajdudorog

The Jews in these and other, smaller communities were mostly orthodox and to
large extent followers of different Hassidic Rebbes. An intensive Jewish life was
present during the short history of Jewish settlement there (Jews were not allowed
to settle in Hajdu szek till 1848). It came to an abrupt end with the Holocaust,
when thousands of local Jews were deported to Auschwitz. Only a scant remnant
returned who tried to rebuild their life: schools, synagogues, yeshiva was
functioning again, but only for a short time. In 1956 an anti-semitic atmosphere
forced the local Jews to sell whatever they had and leave the country: that was
the end of the Jewish life there.

This book is truly a monument of Jewish life, culture and people, who created all
these and more. May their memory be a blessing for our generation!

Gyuri
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com
Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, KONIGSTEIN, FEIN, POLLAK, REICH,
BARANY, CUCAK, DRACH, PURJESZ, PORGES/Z, PORJES/Z, BISCHITZ,
GOLDSCHMIED, IRITZ, SOMMER


Hungary SIG #Hungary Jews from Hajdu cities #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIGers,

Today I bought another book by Laszlo Harsanyi, Adalekok a hajduvarosok
zsidosaganak tortenetehez. (Additions to the History of the Jews of the
Hajdu Cities.) Budapest, 1970.

It contains short historiographical descriptions of the following towns:
Hajduboszormeny
Hajdunanas
Hajduszoboszlo
Hajduhadhaz
Vamospercs
Hajdudorog

The Jews in these and other, smaller communities were mostly orthodox and to
large extent followers of different Hassidic Rebbes. An intensive Jewish life was
present during the short history of Jewish settlement there (Jews were not allowed
to settle in Hajdu szek till 1848). It came to an abrupt end with the Holocaust,
when thousands of local Jews were deported to Auschwitz. Only a scant remnant
returned who tried to rebuild their life: schools, synagogues, yeshiva was
functioning again, but only for a short time. In 1956 an anti-semitic atmosphere
forced the local Jews to sell whatever they had and leave the country: that was
the end of the Jewish life there.

This book is truly a monument of Jewish life, culture and people, who created all
these and more. May their memory be a blessing for our generation!

Gyuri
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com
Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, KONIGSTEIN, FEIN, POLLAK, REICH,
BARANY, CUCAK, DRACH, PURJESZ, PORGES/Z, PORJES/Z, BISCHITZ,
GOLDSCHMIED, IRITZ, SOMMER


Jews from 1869: need a look up? #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

Dear H-SIGers,

Today I bought a book titled Julius Dessauer, Die Ritual-Gesetze der
Israeliten. Aus dem Schulchan Aruch: Orach Chajim. Ofen, 1869.

At the end of the book there is a ”Namens-Verzeichniss der verehrten p.t. Herren
Praenumeranten”, a list who subscribed to the book.

It has names >from the following localities:

Alt-Ofen (Obuda)
Aszod
Bonyhad
Waag Bistritz (Vagbeszterce)
Bru:nn (Brno)
Eperjes (Presov)
Gran (Esztergom)
Komorn (Komarom)
Kaschau (Kassa, Kosice)
Moskolc
L.St.Miklos (Liptoszentmiklos, Liptovske Mikulas)
Neupest (Ujpest)
Ofen (Buda)
Pest

If you need a look up, please write a private e-mail.

Best wishes,

Gyuri
--
Gyorgy Ujlaki, Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu, ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com
Researching: WURM, HOLLANDER, KONIGSTEIN, FEIN, POLLAK, REICH,
BARANY, CUCAK, DRACH, PURJESZ, PORGES/Z, PORJES/Z, BISCHITZ,
GOLDSCHMIED, IRITZ, SOMMER


Re: Brisker #general

David Ziants <davidz@...>
 

Sam Lenger asked:
In the family they used to refer to my gfather as a "Brisker". This
apparently refers to a city or region.
Can you help me find out what "brisker" means?
Brisker also means follows of the great Rabbi, Chaim Soloveitchik (I hope
my spelling is correct) >from Brisk. He encouraged a particular style of
Talmudic study within the Lithuanian Yeshiva world.

--
David Ziants
davidz@netmedia.net.il

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel