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Re: Why Canada? #general

Vivian Salama <salassoc@...>
 

There was always some anti Jewish feeling in immigration of Jews to Canada,
but on the whole it was far easier to get into Canada than the US. You are
correct that during the period of Nazism, it was difficult although some
Jews arrived even at this time.

Except before, during and after W.W. II when Jewish immigration to Canada
was guided by a "None is too many" underlying policy! (See: Abella, Irving.
"None is Too Many".
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Why Canada? #general

Vivian Salama <salassoc@...>
 

There was always some anti Jewish feeling in immigration of Jews to Canada,
but on the whole it was far easier to get into Canada than the US. You are
correct that during the period of Nazism, it was difficult although some
Jews arrived even at this time.

Except before, during and after W.W. II when Jewish immigration to Canada
was guided by a "None is too many" underlying policy! (See: Abella, Irving.
"None is Too Many".
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Why Canada #general

Vivian Salama <salassoc@...>
 

I have received some responses to my comments regardign immigration to
Canada. Except for the period just prior to and during World War II, from
the time of Canadian confederation Jews were welcome and had less
difficulty in coming to Canada than to the US. Policies were less strict.
Sephardic Jews arrived much earlier in Canada, especially in the province
of Quebec, settling in some of the smaller towns (Sherbrooke) in the 18th
century, as they did in the US. Many Jews used Canada as a stepping stone
to getting into the US as immigration >from Canada to the US was far simpler
than >from other countries, and is still happening. The arrival of North
African Jews in the 60ies into Canada was a real boon for the province of
Quebec which welcomed French speaking peoples of all the world whether
Jewish or not. It just so happened that most at this time were in fact
Jews escaping for nationalism of the North African countries, particularly
Egypt, Morocco and Algeria.

Things opened up for Jews especially after Confederation in 1867, when the
policy was to settle the lands, particularly to the west and many immigrant
families settled in Manitoba etc. farming as they had in eastern Europe.

I have heard >from people disagreeing with me about immigration and the
doors being closed...this was for the period of Nazism and even then Jews
continued to arrive although in small numbers.

Vivian Brieger Salama
Hillsborough, CA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Why Canada #general

Vivian Salama <salassoc@...>
 

I have received some responses to my comments regardign immigration to
Canada. Except for the period just prior to and during World War II, from
the time of Canadian confederation Jews were welcome and had less
difficulty in coming to Canada than to the US. Policies were less strict.
Sephardic Jews arrived much earlier in Canada, especially in the province
of Quebec, settling in some of the smaller towns (Sherbrooke) in the 18th
century, as they did in the US. Many Jews used Canada as a stepping stone
to getting into the US as immigration >from Canada to the US was far simpler
than >from other countries, and is still happening. The arrival of North
African Jews in the 60ies into Canada was a real boon for the province of
Quebec which welcomed French speaking peoples of all the world whether
Jewish or not. It just so happened that most at this time were in fact
Jews escaping for nationalism of the North African countries, particularly
Egypt, Morocco and Algeria.

Things opened up for Jews especially after Confederation in 1867, when the
policy was to settle the lands, particularly to the west and many immigrant
families settled in Manitoba etc. farming as they had in eastern Europe.

I have heard >from people disagreeing with me about immigration and the
doors being closed...this was for the period of Nazism and even then Jews
continued to arrive although in small numbers.

Vivian Brieger Salama
Hillsborough, CA

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Re: HOUDINI #general

Judith27
 

For all those inquiring about Houdini, I found a promising URL tonight on
Harry Houdini 1874-87 at http://www.microserve.net/~magicusa/houdibio.html
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan, Long Beach, NY
(Judith27@aol.com)

Researching: APPELBAUM, BALINKY, BERNHARDT, BOCHUR, FLIEGEL, KUFELD, LANGER,
LEPAR, NACHUMOVITZ, RODITI, SHAMIS, SURNAMER, WEBER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: HOUDINI #general

Judith27
 

For all those inquiring about Houdini, I found a promising URL tonight on
Harry Houdini 1874-87 at http://www.microserve.net/~magicusa/houdibio.html
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan, Long Beach, NY
(Judith27@aol.com)

Researching: APPELBAUM, BALINKY, BERNHARDT, BOCHUR, FLIEGEL, KUFELD, LANGER,
LEPAR, NACHUMOVITZ, RODITI, SHAMIS, SURNAMER, WEBER


Searching: Max LOWENTHAL, b. Minneapolis #general

Sigma Alpha Mu Fraternity <sammy@...>
 

Searching for information about the family of Max LOWENTHAL, an attorney,
who was raised in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and who served as an advisor to
Harry S Truman during the 1930's and '40's.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota


Presidential Estates and Flushing NY #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

I would like to ask a question of someone who is familiar
with Presidential Estates NY and Flushing NY.

Thanx in advance.

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@netvision.net.il


Yisra'el and Issur #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

: Dr Saul Issroff wrote:
from Bereishit 32:25-29. A contraction of two Hebrew words:
Yasor- Nobly contended
with, and prevailed, Eil-God. "Nobly contended with God and
prevailed". Yaakov's name
was changed to Yisra'eil after he dreamt he had made battle
with
the Angel of God and
prevailed. This triumphant dream battle of Yaakov is the
symbolic contention with God
that brought in its wake God's renaming him Yisra'eil.
The above paragraph (quoted by Dr. Issroff >from some other
source)
contains several
inaccuracies that need to be straightened out, or they will
mislead many readers.

First, the root of the biblical Hebrew word meaning to "strive"
or "contend with" is NOT
y-s-r (i.e., not "yasor" as stated above) but "s-r-h" -- which,
in the form found in the name
Yisra'el, has dropped the weak third root letter"h" and prefixed
the third person singular
pronoun "he" (represented here by placing the letter "y" before
the two remaining root
letters "s-r." The source quoted by Dr.Issroff must be totally
ignorant of Hebrew grammar, or he/she would never have made the
error of supposing that the root letters of the verb here are
"y-s-r" rather than "s-r-h."

Second, the folk-etymological explanation of the name Yisra'el
(as
presented in Genesis
32:29) is only "contended with God" (i.e., NOT "contended with
God AND PREVAILED"
as stated above). In the biblical text, the word that DOES mean
"and prevailed" is the
last word in the sentence -- "va-tukhal" (literally "and you
prevailed"). The complete
biblical phrase is as follows: "ki/sarita/ `im ha-Elohim/ ve`im
anashim/va-tukhal" -- which
means: "for/you strove/with God/and with men/ and you prevailed"
-- but it is only >from the
two words "SaRita" and ELohim" that the name "YiSrRa-EL" is
claimed to originate.

Third, although the biblical text gives this traditional
derivation, modern scholarship
understands it as a folk-etymological intrepretation. A
more plausible explanation is that Yisra'el may be derived from
the
name of his eponymous
ancestor Sarah. (In the book of Genesis, Jacob, whose name is
changed to Israel in this
story, was the book of Genesis.)

Finally, I was intrigued by Dr. Issroff's assertion elsewhere in
his message that the name
Isser is a Yiddishized form of the name Yisra'el. In fact, Issur
is a completely separate
name, found in the Talmud (hence obviously pre-Yiddish); a
character called Issur Giora
(Issur the Proselyte) appears in tractates Bava Batra and Avodah
Zarah. What is the
evidence that Issur/Isser/Issar Isser is a Yiddishized form of
Yisra'el? For instance, does
any Jgenner have an ancestor whose Hebrew name was Yisra'el but
whose Yiddish name
was Issur? BTW, Issur was the given name at birth of Kirk
Douglas!

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Max LOWENTHAL, b. Minneapolis #general

Sigma Alpha Mu Fraternity <sammy@...>
 

Searching for information about the family of Max LOWENTHAL, an attorney,
who was raised in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and who served as an advisor to
Harry S Truman during the 1930's and '40's.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Presidential Estates and Flushing NY #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

I would like to ask a question of someone who is familiar
with Presidential Estates NY and Flushing NY.

Thanx in advance.

Israel Pickholtz
p2o5rock@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yisra'el and Issur #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

: Dr Saul Issroff wrote:
from Bereishit 32:25-29. A contraction of two Hebrew words:
Yasor- Nobly contended
with, and prevailed, Eil-God. "Nobly contended with God and
prevailed". Yaakov's name
was changed to Yisra'eil after he dreamt he had made battle
with
the Angel of God and
prevailed. This triumphant dream battle of Yaakov is the
symbolic contention with God
that brought in its wake God's renaming him Yisra'eil.
The above paragraph (quoted by Dr. Issroff >from some other
source)
contains several
inaccuracies that need to be straightened out, or they will
mislead many readers.

First, the root of the biblical Hebrew word meaning to "strive"
or "contend with" is NOT
y-s-r (i.e., not "yasor" as stated above) but "s-r-h" -- which,
in the form found in the name
Yisra'el, has dropped the weak third root letter"h" and prefixed
the third person singular
pronoun "he" (represented here by placing the letter "y" before
the two remaining root
letters "s-r." The source quoted by Dr.Issroff must be totally
ignorant of Hebrew grammar, or he/she would never have made the
error of supposing that the root letters of the verb here are
"y-s-r" rather than "s-r-h."

Second, the folk-etymological explanation of the name Yisra'el
(as
presented in Genesis
32:29) is only "contended with God" (i.e., NOT "contended with
God AND PREVAILED"
as stated above). In the biblical text, the word that DOES mean
"and prevailed" is the
last word in the sentence -- "va-tukhal" (literally "and you
prevailed"). The complete
biblical phrase is as follows: "ki/sarita/ `im ha-Elohim/ ve`im
anashim/va-tukhal" -- which
means: "for/you strove/with God/and with men/ and you prevailed"
-- but it is only >from the
two words "SaRita" and ELohim" that the name "YiSrRa-EL" is
claimed to originate.

Third, although the biblical text gives this traditional
derivation, modern scholarship
understands it as a folk-etymological intrepretation. A
more plausible explanation is that Yisra'el may be derived from
the
name of his eponymous
ancestor Sarah. (In the book of Genesis, Jacob, whose name is
changed to Israel in this
story, was the book of Genesis.)

Finally, I was intrigued by Dr. Issroff's assertion elsewhere in
his message that the name
Isser is a Yiddishized form of the name Yisra'el. In fact, Issur
is a completely separate
name, found in the Talmud (hence obviously pre-Yiddish); a
character called Issur Giora
(Issur the Proselyte) appears in tractates Bava Batra and Avodah
Zarah. What is the
evidence that Issur/Isser/Issar Isser is a Yiddishized form of
Yisra'el? For instance, does
any Jgenner have an ancestor whose Hebrew name was Yisra'el but
whose Yiddish name
was Issur? BTW, Issur was the given name at birth of Kirk
Douglas!

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Plaszow Camp, WWII #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

-> Seeking information on the Plaszow Camp during WWII.
-> Sharlene Kranz in
-> Washington, DC

This is the "work" camp in which the factory of Oscar Schindler operated,
as seen in the film "Schindler's List". It is near Krakow, in Poland.

Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
I can be reached through the Web site mentioned below.

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ISMACH, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia,
Poland
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania
See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Plaszow Camp, WWII #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

-> Seeking information on the Plaszow Camp during WWII.
-> Sharlene Kranz in
-> Washington, DC

This is the "work" camp in which the factory of Oscar Schindler operated,
as seen in the film "Schindler's List". It is near Krakow, in Poland.

Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
I can be reached through the Web site mentioned below.

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ISMACH, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia,
Poland
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania
See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com


Re: Merchant Marines #general

Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@...>
 

The United States Merchant Marine was a quasi military organization
established to transport the materiel of war during World War II. I
don't know where records would be kept, but they are certainly
memorialized in San Francisco, among other places. They were considered
a branch of the military and veterans benefits were paid. The USS
Jeremiah O'Brien, a Merchant Marine Liberty Ship, was the only vessel to
take part in the D-Day invasion of Europe in 1944 and the 50th
anniversary celebration in the English Channel in 1994, having sailed
from San Francisco on her own power to Normandy and back in a five month
cruise.

Chuck Weinstein in San Mateo, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Merchant Marines #general

Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@...>
 

The United States Merchant Marine was a quasi military organization
established to transport the materiel of war during World War II. I
don't know where records would be kept, but they are certainly
memorialized in San Francisco, among other places. They were considered
a branch of the military and veterans benefits were paid. The USS
Jeremiah O'Brien, a Merchant Marine Liberty Ship, was the only vessel to
take part in the D-Day invasion of Europe in 1944 and the 50th
anniversary celebration in the English Channel in 1994, having sailed
from San Francisco on her own power to Normandy and back in a five month
cruise.

Chuck Weinstein in San Mateo, CA


Searching: DENMARK, Corunna Downs, Australia #general

Linda Saegert <lsaegert@...>
 

If any of you live in Australia, please contact me. I need help on the
name DENMARK in Corunna Downs.
Thank you,
Linda Saegert
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: DENMARK, Corunna Downs, Australia #general

Linda Saegert <lsaegert@...>
 

If any of you live in Australia, please contact me. I need help on the
name DENMARK in Corunna Downs.
Thank you,
Linda Saegert
New York


Seeking former Jewish inhabitants of Loetzen #general

Jan Sekta <jsekta@...>
 

Hello,
I seek former Jewish inhabitants Loetzen in Eastern Prussia (Ostpreussen, Germany),
who left the city during the Nazi persecutions (1933-1945).

Best regards,
Jan Sekta


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking former Jewish inhabitants of Loetzen #general

Jan Sekta <jsekta@...>
 

Hello,
I seek former Jewish inhabitants Loetzen in Eastern Prussia (Ostpreussen, Germany),
who left the city during the Nazi persecutions (1933-1945).

Best regards,
Jan Sekta