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Research in Portugal and Brazil #general

nsilva@...
 

Hi!

Rootsweb has two mailing lists regarding genealogy research in
Portugal and Brazil.
Both of them accept Portuguese and English language.
If you want to participate in them, please send a message in order
to subscribe the list to the addresses:

PORTUGAL-L-request@rootsweb.com
BRAZILL-L-request@rootsweb.com

with word "subscribe" in the body of the message.
After the subscription, all your messages sent to
PORTUGAL-L@rootsweb.com and/or BRAZIL-L@rootsweb.com

will be forwarded to all members of each list and you will start to
receive message >from the others.

More info on genealogy in Portugal:
http://aramis.inescn.pt/~nsilva/gen/


--

Nelson Silva

Official Magna Carta Web Site
http://www.magnac.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Although Rootsweb has relatively few resources related to
Jewish families, the above sources may be worth a look if you know of
Brazilian or Portuguese connections. Try both spellings for subscribing to
the Brazil list--not sure which is correct.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research in Portugal and Brazil #general

nsilva@...
 

Hi!

Rootsweb has two mailing lists regarding genealogy research in
Portugal and Brazil.
Both of them accept Portuguese and English language.
If you want to participate in them, please send a message in order
to subscribe the list to the addresses:

PORTUGAL-L-request@rootsweb.com
BRAZILL-L-request@rootsweb.com

with word "subscribe" in the body of the message.
After the subscription, all your messages sent to
PORTUGAL-L@rootsweb.com and/or BRAZIL-L@rootsweb.com

will be forwarded to all members of each list and you will start to
receive message >from the others.

More info on genealogy in Portugal:
http://aramis.inescn.pt/~nsilva/gen/


--

Nelson Silva

Official Magna Carta Web Site
http://www.magnac.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Although Rootsweb has relatively few resources related to
Jewish families, the above sources may be worth a look if you know of
Brazilian or Portuguese connections. Try both spellings for subscribing to
the Brazil list--not sure which is correct.


Web page #general

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

Once again the fact that I have placed (with the able assistance of Andy
Cassell) that Web page about Vishnevets has brought results. Not, this
time, of contact with family, but with a person whose family actually KNEW
my gf! We had a long talk and expect to keep in contact.

I was able to give him some information about another cemetery plot of the
SHTETL which he didn't know existed.

The reason I am putting this out is just to suggest, if you possibly can,
get a page up there about YOUR shtetl. One never knows what will happen.
Even if you only have a little bit that you've been able to collect.

Arlene Parnes, Orlando, FL
Searching:
ARONOWITZ, Russia; Cuba; ASIA, Krements, Poland/Ukraine;
COHEN, Russia; Manchester, Eng.; EPSTEIN, Russia; GALEWITZ, Vilnius
GROBERG, Vienna ; JUVITZER/PARNES, Vishnevets, Poland/Ukraine
SPIEGELMAN, Ternopol


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Web page #general

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

Once again the fact that I have placed (with the able assistance of Andy
Cassell) that Web page about Vishnevets has brought results. Not, this
time, of contact with family, but with a person whose family actually KNEW
my gf! We had a long talk and expect to keep in contact.

I was able to give him some information about another cemetery plot of the
SHTETL which he didn't know existed.

The reason I am putting this out is just to suggest, if you possibly can,
get a page up there about YOUR shtetl. One never knows what will happen.
Even if you only have a little bit that you've been able to collect.

Arlene Parnes, Orlando, FL
Searching:
ARONOWITZ, Russia; Cuba; ASIA, Krements, Poland/Ukraine;
COHEN, Russia; Manchester, Eng.; EPSTEIN, Russia; GALEWITZ, Vilnius
GROBERG, Vienna ; JUVITZER/PARNES, Vishnevets, Poland/Ukraine
SPIEGELMAN, Ternopol


Books about ancestral homes #general

Ronisl@...
 

Over the past several months, I've read numerous books about the lives of
survivors before, during and after the Holocaust. I'm particulary drawn
to books written by people who lived in or near the shtetls I'm
researching. Although I am fortunate that most of my family left Poland in
the early part of the century, I find the descriptions of life in these
ancestral places fascinating. Often nearby towns, villages, and cities
are described along with the names of neighbors, other relatives, and
local townsfolk. The towns themselves are often documented in full detail.
I feel like I've been afforded a glimpse into the milieu and culture of the
town through these personal accounts.

JewishGen has a publications site in which we can submit information about
books with genealogical interest. It can be searched for place names and
any other data. I encourage others to write a few words about the books
read that might be of particular interest to other researchers. Please
include the names of the shtetls, cities, etc. mentioned in the book
within your descriptive blurb. BTW, the book I'm now reading starts out
with family life before the war in Kamenets-Podolsk in the Ukraine and
continues in Lvov, and now is getting into Krakow with detailed
descriptions of the life during the war . Although it's a personal
account, I think someone researching family >from these areas would be very
interested in its contents. I am also guilty of not listing books in the
Publications file on JGen, but will begin to do so within the next few
days. I hope others will do the same.

Yours
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
New York
URBACK (AUERBACH,URBACH) --We'grow, Warsaw, Radom, PO; Zimbabwe; KULSKY--
(?) PO; BILSKY (PRZYBYLSKI) --Belchatow to Lodz, PO; PIASKOWSKY--
Belchatow, PO; SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER -- Klimontow, Sandermierz,
PO; Grebow, Baronov, Rozwadow, Zukow, Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER),
MECHANIC -- Minsk, Belarus; PERLMAN, GORDON--Liepaja, Latvia; LIEBOWITZ--
Minsk and Dubrovah, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Books about ancestral homes #general

Ronisl@...
 

Over the past several months, I've read numerous books about the lives of
survivors before, during and after the Holocaust. I'm particulary drawn
to books written by people who lived in or near the shtetls I'm
researching. Although I am fortunate that most of my family left Poland in
the early part of the century, I find the descriptions of life in these
ancestral places fascinating. Often nearby towns, villages, and cities
are described along with the names of neighbors, other relatives, and
local townsfolk. The towns themselves are often documented in full detail.
I feel like I've been afforded a glimpse into the milieu and culture of the
town through these personal accounts.

JewishGen has a publications site in which we can submit information about
books with genealogical interest. It can be searched for place names and
any other data. I encourage others to write a few words about the books
read that might be of particular interest to other researchers. Please
include the names of the shtetls, cities, etc. mentioned in the book
within your descriptive blurb. BTW, the book I'm now reading starts out
with family life before the war in Kamenets-Podolsk in the Ukraine and
continues in Lvov, and now is getting into Krakow with detailed
descriptions of the life during the war . Although it's a personal
account, I think someone researching family >from these areas would be very
interested in its contents. I am also guilty of not listing books in the
Publications file on JGen, but will begin to do so within the next few
days. I hope others will do the same.

Yours
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator
New York
URBACK (AUERBACH,URBACH) --We'grow, Warsaw, Radom, PO; Zimbabwe; KULSKY--
(?) PO; BILSKY (PRZYBYLSKI) --Belchatow to Lodz, PO; PIASKOWSKY--
Belchatow, PO; SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER -- Klimontow, Sandermierz,
PO; Grebow, Baronov, Rozwadow, Zukow, Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER),
MECHANIC -- Minsk, Belarus; PERLMAN, GORDON--Liepaja, Latvia; LIEBOWITZ--
Minsk and Dubrovah, Belarus


For S. Florida Visitors - Internet & JewishGen access #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

To: South Florida Visitors

While vacationing in South Florida, access the Internet (and JewishGen)
from computers at the local library.
SEFLIN, the SouthEast Florida Library Information Network is a
non-profit consortium of libraries. The Free-Net is a computer network
of community information accessible to all.

By pre-registering you will have full access to the Free-Net. This
includes e-mail to friends and relatives and uninterrupted access to
the Internet >from computers at all local member libraries. There is a
modest fee for non-residents.

Registration forms are available:
o Via Internet: http://www.seflin.org/
o Via Free-Net: Dial (modem) 954-765-4332
o By fax: Sun-Sentinel Source Line.
Dial (954)523-5463 and enter source code 8660.
o At SEFLIN member libraries
o By mail to: SEFLIN Free-Net
Registration Office
100 South Andrews Avenue
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301

When you visit, explore...
SEFLIN's Gateway to Genealogy Related Resources
http://www.seflin.org/genealogy/index.html

--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<mailto:koosh@att.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen For S. Florida Visitors - Internet & JewishGen access #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

To: South Florida Visitors

While vacationing in South Florida, access the Internet (and JewishGen)
from computers at the local library.
SEFLIN, the SouthEast Florida Library Information Network is a
non-profit consortium of libraries. The Free-Net is a computer network
of community information accessible to all.

By pre-registering you will have full access to the Free-Net. This
includes e-mail to friends and relatives and uninterrupted access to
the Internet >from computers at all local member libraries. There is a
modest fee for non-residents.

Registration forms are available:
o Via Internet: http://www.seflin.org/
o Via Free-Net: Dial (modem) 954-765-4332
o By fax: Sun-Sentinel Source Line.
Dial (954)523-5463 and enter source code 8660.
o At SEFLIN member libraries
o By mail to: SEFLIN Free-Net
Registration Office
100 South Andrews Avenue
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301

When you visit, explore...
SEFLIN's Gateway to Genealogy Related Resources
http://www.seflin.org/genealogy/index.html

--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<mailto:koosh@att.net>


ENOUGH ON BEN AND BAT DISCUSSION #lithuania

Harold Rhode <hrhode@...>
 

Please, enough of this already. Why does everyone have to have an opinion here?

What is the purpose of what we are doing, personal power or getting the data out in
a useful form to the people.

Having dealt with these records for years, the easiest way to handle this is
(OPINION DELETED ) To anyone going back to the original sources
and who knows enough Russian to use them, it will be obvious how this works.

What is our goal? It thought it was to do genealogy. Let's end this silly
discussion, get the material out to the public, so that we all can use it.


Harold Rhode

Moderator's Note: This discussion was closed as of Sunday night but this
posting is being allowed because it represents a sound closure.
The opinion was edited out in all fairness to others who posted
after the deadline and whose messages were rejected.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania ENOUGH ON BEN AND BAT DISCUSSION #lithuania

Harold Rhode <hrhode@...>
 

Please, enough of this already. Why does everyone have to have an opinion here?

What is the purpose of what we are doing, personal power or getting the data out in
a useful form to the people.

Having dealt with these records for years, the easiest way to handle this is
(OPINION DELETED ) To anyone going back to the original sources
and who knows enough Russian to use them, it will be obvious how this works.

What is our goal? It thought it was to do genealogy. Let's end this silly
discussion, get the material out to the public, so that we all can use it.


Harold Rhode

Moderator's Note: This discussion was closed as of Sunday night but this
posting is being allowed because it represents a sound closure.
The opinion was edited out in all fairness to others who posted
after the deadline and whose messages were rejected.


Pogrom in Dolginov #belarus

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

I asked awhile ago if anyone knew anything about this, which was
mentioned as a point of reference in Hamelitz. The "thunder," as
HaMelitz called it, was supposedly in June/July 1886.

Several people asked to be informed if I came up with anything.

The head of the Dolginov assn here in Israel has indeed heard of it
but all he knew was that it was a popular (rather than government
sponsored) event. He sounded very depressed to be even discussing
dolginov, as it reminded him that all the old people (who *really*
knew things) are gone. He said he'd send me an announcement before
there annual memorial service. End of story, for now.

Israel Pickholtz


Hebrew names for women #lithuania

Theo Travis <travis@...>
 

In my experience women didn't need Hebrew names - a Yiddish name would do.
In my family, the women were given "Jewish" names, which in our case, was
Yiddish. That went for my grandmothers on both sides and my mother, and even
my sisters and I have only Yiddish names (don't ask me why my parents didn't
give us Hebrew names). One grandmother was >from a Hassidic family in
Bukovina. I was even named in an Orthodox shul with a Yiddish name only. So
maybe if women had a name that was already biblical, that's what they used
as their Hebrew name, or they had a Yiddish name instead.

Madelyn Travis
travis@travis33.demon.co.uk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Pogrom in Dolginov #belarus

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

I asked awhile ago if anyone knew anything about this, which was
mentioned as a point of reference in Hamelitz. The "thunder," as
HaMelitz called it, was supposedly in June/July 1886.

Several people asked to be informed if I came up with anything.

The head of the Dolginov assn here in Israel has indeed heard of it
but all he knew was that it was a popular (rather than government
sponsored) event. He sounded very depressed to be even discussing
dolginov, as it reminded him that all the old people (who *really*
knew things) are gone. He said he'd send me an announcement before
there annual memorial service. End of story, for now.

Israel Pickholtz


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Hebrew names for women #lithuania

Theo Travis <travis@...>
 

In my experience women didn't need Hebrew names - a Yiddish name would do.
In my family, the women were given "Jewish" names, which in our case, was
Yiddish. That went for my grandmothers on both sides and my mother, and even
my sisters and I have only Yiddish names (don't ask me why my parents didn't
give us Hebrew names). One grandmother was >from a Hassidic family in
Bukovina. I was even named in an Orthodox shul with a Yiddish name only. So
maybe if women had a name that was already biblical, that's what they used
as their Hebrew name, or they had a Yiddish name instead.

Madelyn Travis
travis@travis33.demon.co.uk


Klimontow film now available! #poland

FLAVIO BARAN <flavio.baran@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

The Klimontow Shtetl CO-OP Team is proud to inform that film #
809,130 is already available on the Internet. This film covers
the Birth, Marriage and Death records >from 1840 to 1853.

Many thanks to all those who made this indexing possible.

Flavio D. Baran
Klimontow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator

http://www1.jewishgen.org/jri-pl


JRI Poland #Poland Klimontow film now available! #poland

FLAVIO BARAN <flavio.baran@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

The Klimontow Shtetl CO-OP Team is proud to inform that film #
809,130 is already available on the Internet. This film covers
the Birth, Marriage and Death records >from 1840 to 1853.

Many thanks to all those who made this indexing possible.

Flavio D. Baran
Klimontow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator

http://www1.jewishgen.org/jri-pl


"...respect the sensitivities of the living" #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

In the genealogical hunt to collect names, we sometimes find misguided
persons. They deliberately publish sensitive information about other
living relatives, despite objections.
I would label such persons as gossips, not genealogists. Genealogists
endeavor to unite families, not divide them.
I refer you to the words of the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern, Dean of
American-Jewish Genealogy, who wrote:

"Thou shalt respect the sensitivities of the living in
whatever you record but tell the truth about the dead."


Email to <mstern@mail.jewishgen.org> for a copy of _Rabbi
Stern's Ten Commandments for Genealogists_. Or, access it on the web
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<mailto:bkouchel@jewishgen.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "...respect the sensitivities of the living" #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

In the genealogical hunt to collect names, we sometimes find misguided
persons. They deliberately publish sensitive information about other
living relatives, despite objections.
I would label such persons as gossips, not genealogists. Genealogists
endeavor to unite families, not divide them.
I refer you to the words of the late Rabbi Malcolm Stern, Dean of
American-Jewish Genealogy, who wrote:

"Thou shalt respect the sensitivities of the living in
whatever you record but tell the truth about the dead."


Email to <mstern@mail.jewishgen.org> for a copy of _Rabbi
Stern's Ten Commandments for Genealogists_. Or, access it on the web
at: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/
--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<mailto:bkouchel@jewishgen.org>


Metz, France #general

NEIL185@...
 

Looking for someone with email in Metz, France or others who
can help me with local research there.
Thanks,

Neil ROSENSTEIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Metz, France #general

NEIL185@...
 

Looking for someone with email in Metz, France or others who
can help me with local research there.
Thanks,

Neil ROSENSTEIN