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FW: Zilberman - Bekescsaba #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

To all,

As you can read in this message Esther Ravitz will be travelling to Hungary
next week. If anyone can assist her please contact Kelly Modlin ASAP.

Louis Schonfeld

-----Original Message-----
From: kelly modlin [mailto:Modlin.Fam.Search@netshean.gov.il]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 4:08 PM
To: lmagyar@en.com
Subject: Re: Zilberman - Bekescsaba


Shalom Mr. Schonfeld.

My name is Kelly (Kalman) Modlin, a member of Kibbutz Shluchot and I'm
sending you this message on behalf of Esther (Eti) Ravitz, who is a member
of our Kibbutz.
Eti's roots on her mothers side are in Hungary.

She seeks information regarding her mothers sisters and herhaps brother,who
perished in the Holocaust.

The only information in her possession is as follows:
ZILBERMAN Ya'akov - Grandfather, occupation - Shochet. At some stage
emmigrated to Israel.
Ziberman Chana - Grandmother, maiden name unknown.

The ZILBERMANS had seven or eight children:- Eti has no idea as to whether
any of her Aunts were married.
Their names were as follows:-
Bluma - born 1900
Pesel - born 1902
Leah - born 1903
Golda Eti's Mother born 1905. Worked as seamstress.
Gitel - born 1909
Mindel - born 1914
Hindel - born 1916 ?
The ZILBERMANS hah a grand daughter - Hilda Sara - born 1926
Mordechai possibly a son - born 1893

She knows that the towns Szeged and Mako were mentioned in Family circles.

Eti and her sister Sarah are due to leave for Hungary next Thursday in
search of their Family Roots.

If it isn't to much of a problem could you give them some advice as how to
go about their search in Hungary?
Do you have any information or knowledge regarding the above mentioned
places?

My wife Pnina,( who is known here in Israel as a "Child with a Missing
Identity") and I are members of the Gallil Gen. Soc. and believe that we
shall have the honour of your presence at our next meeting which is due to
take place at Kibbutz Mizra.

Hoping to hear >from you.

Sincerely
Kelly Modlin.
Kibbutz Shluchot.
----------------------------------


Greater Access to WWI Draft Info @ Nat'l Archives in DC #general

deborah dworski <ddworski@...>
 

Within the past two weeks the U.S. National Archives in Washington, D.C.
has greatly expanded its microfilm collection of World War I draft
registration cards. All of the original registrations are housed at the
National Archives in Atlanta. Though all of the documents have been
microfilmed, up until now, very little of the collection has been
publicly accessible in Washington.

One caveat is that Washington does not yet have the finding aids often
necessary to identify the draft board of interest. Washington Archive
officials are currently copying the draft board maps used in Atlanta and
hope to have them available to researchers within the next few weeks.
Each state had its own draft boards most typically subdivided by cities
and counties--somewhat similar to a census enumeration. Within each
draft board, the registrants were arranged alphabetically by surname.
For heavily populated cities, the street address of the registrant is a
must. (City directories are an excellent resource.) The street address
can then be cross-referenced on the finding aids/ maps to determine the
corresponding draft board.

For a more comprehensive explanation and discussion of this genealogical
resource and its potential value to your own research, see the JewishGen
InfoFiles.

Microfilm reels of the WWI draft registrations in the following states
and territories are now available at the National Archives in
Washington, D.C. (microfilm series M-1509): Alaska, Arkansas,
Connecticut, Washington, D.C., Idaho, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland,
Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, New Mexico,
New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia,
West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.


Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: Zilberman - Bekescsaba #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

To all,

As you can read in this message Esther Ravitz will be travelling to Hungary
next week. If anyone can assist her please contact Kelly Modlin ASAP.

Louis Schonfeld

-----Original Message-----
From: kelly modlin [mailto:Modlin.Fam.Search@netshean.gov.il]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 4:08 PM
To: lmagyar@en.com
Subject: Re: Zilberman - Bekescsaba


Shalom Mr. Schonfeld.

My name is Kelly (Kalman) Modlin, a member of Kibbutz Shluchot and I'm
sending you this message on behalf of Esther (Eti) Ravitz, who is a member
of our Kibbutz.
Eti's roots on her mothers side are in Hungary.

She seeks information regarding her mothers sisters and herhaps brother,who
perished in the Holocaust.

The only information in her possession is as follows:
ZILBERMAN Ya'akov - Grandfather, occupation - Shochet. At some stage
emmigrated to Israel.
Ziberman Chana - Grandmother, maiden name unknown.

The ZILBERMANS had seven or eight children:- Eti has no idea as to whether
any of her Aunts were married.
Their names were as follows:-
Bluma - born 1900
Pesel - born 1902
Leah - born 1903
Golda Eti's Mother born 1905. Worked as seamstress.
Gitel - born 1909
Mindel - born 1914
Hindel - born 1916 ?
The ZILBERMANS hah a grand daughter - Hilda Sara - born 1926
Mordechai possibly a son - born 1893

She knows that the towns Szeged and Mako were mentioned in Family circles.

Eti and her sister Sarah are due to leave for Hungary next Thursday in
search of their Family Roots.

If it isn't to much of a problem could you give them some advice as how to
go about their search in Hungary?
Do you have any information or knowledge regarding the above mentioned
places?

My wife Pnina,( who is known here in Israel as a "Child with a Missing
Identity") and I are members of the Gallil Gen. Soc. and believe that we
shall have the honour of your presence at our next meeting which is due to
take place at Kibbutz Mizra.

Hoping to hear >from you.

Sincerely
Kelly Modlin.
Kibbutz Shluchot.
----------------------------------


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Greater Access to WWI Draft Info @ Nat'l Archives in DC #general

deborah dworski <ddworski@...>
 

Within the past two weeks the U.S. National Archives in Washington, D.C.
has greatly expanded its microfilm collection of World War I draft
registration cards. All of the original registrations are housed at the
National Archives in Atlanta. Though all of the documents have been
microfilmed, up until now, very little of the collection has been
publicly accessible in Washington.

One caveat is that Washington does not yet have the finding aids often
necessary to identify the draft board of interest. Washington Archive
officials are currently copying the draft board maps used in Atlanta and
hope to have them available to researchers within the next few weeks.
Each state had its own draft boards most typically subdivided by cities
and counties--somewhat similar to a census enumeration. Within each
draft board, the registrants were arranged alphabetically by surname.
For heavily populated cities, the street address of the registrant is a
must. (City directories are an excellent resource.) The street address
can then be cross-referenced on the finding aids/ maps to determine the
corresponding draft board.

For a more comprehensive explanation and discussion of this genealogical
resource and its potential value to your own research, see the JewishGen
InfoFiles.

Microfilm reels of the WWI draft registrations in the following states
and territories are now available at the National Archives in
Washington, D.C. (microfilm series M-1509): Alaska, Arkansas,
Connecticut, Washington, D.C., Idaho, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland,
Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, New Mexico,
New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia,
West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.


Re: Book review #hungary

ALEX M P MILLER <alexm6@...>
 

Hello all,

Two books of possible interest:

With my own eyes by Jakob Katz, Brandeis U press 1985
A candid autobiography about village life, attendance of yeshivas and
living accomodations, career development in the 30's, university
in Germany, life in palestine in the 40's, faculty life at Hebrew
university

Modernization of Agriculture 1848- 1875, by Joseph Held, Columbia U 1980
First section is of topical interest being more of an
anthropological essay on the social beliefs and dispositions of country folks in places where the Jews entered intensively into the economic life

Best regards, Szervusz

Alex Miller Reading Pennsylvania

___________________________________________________________________


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Book review #hungary

ALEX M P MILLER <alexm6@...>
 

Hello all,

Two books of possible interest:

With my own eyes by Jakob Katz, Brandeis U press 1985
A candid autobiography about village life, attendance of yeshivas and
living accomodations, career development in the 30's, university
in Germany, life in palestine in the 40's, faculty life at Hebrew
university

Modernization of Agriculture 1848- 1875, by Joseph Held, Columbia U 1980
First section is of topical interest being more of an
anthropological essay on the social beliefs and dispositions of country folks in places where the Jews entered intensively into the economic life

Best regards, Szervusz

Alex Miller Reading Pennsylvania

___________________________________________________________________


KASSA / KOSICE #hungary

Family Tree <familyt@...>
 

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Dear Members,

Please find attached the list of the Slovakian settlements the vital
records of which can be found at the Kassa Archives. The material of
certain towns of the Counties Abauj, Torna, Zemplen, Gomor and Saros are

kept in Kassa. Here you only can find the list of the independent towns
without the villages belonged to them as branch churches or communities.

(Naturally, we can identify other settlements as well that cannot be
found on the list, and can tell the time intervals within which records
are available.) The columns contain the following data in order:

1. Name of the settlement in Slovakian/Hungarian
2. Roman Catholic
3. Reformed
4. Evangelical
5. Jewish
6. Greek Catholic
7. Greek Orthodox
8. Nazarene

(An "x" marks in the relevant column whether the town in question has
independent material or not.)

It is interesting to note that the Nazarene and the Greek Orthodox
records cannot be found in Kassa at all, and there are only few Jewish
ones. (The Jewish vital records for this region are kept in
Satoraljaujhely/Hungary and Presov/Eperjes.)

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

George

--
George Eotvos
Family Tree Ltd. (Csaladfa Kft)
Partner & Managing Director

______________________________________________________________

Hungarian Roots List - URL:http://www.familytree.hu
If you like to subscribe to the list send an e-mail to
majordomo@euroweb.hu.
In the first line write subscribe HUNROOTS.
Thank you !

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Hungary SIG #Hungary KASSA / KOSICE #hungary

Family Tree <familyt@...>
 

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------FCD57CABAABA91633E7FD3D1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear Members,

Please find attached the list of the Slovakian settlements the vital
records of which can be found at the Kassa Archives. The material of
certain towns of the Counties Abauj, Torna, Zemplen, Gomor and Saros are

kept in Kassa. Here you only can find the list of the independent towns
without the villages belonged to them as branch churches or communities.

(Naturally, we can identify other settlements as well that cannot be
found on the list, and can tell the time intervals within which records
are available.) The columns contain the following data in order:

1. Name of the settlement in Slovakian/Hungarian
2. Roman Catholic
3. Reformed
4. Evangelical
5. Jewish
6. Greek Catholic
7. Greek Orthodox
8. Nazarene

(An "x" marks in the relevant column whether the town in question has
independent material or not.)

It is interesting to note that the Nazarene and the Greek Orthodox
records cannot be found in Kassa at all, and there are only few Jewish
ones. (The Jewish vital records for this region are kept in
Satoraljaujhely/Hungary and Presov/Eperjes.)

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

George

--
George Eotvos
Family Tree Ltd. (Csaladfa Kft)
Partner & Managing Director

______________________________________________________________

Hungarian Roots List - URL:http://www.familytree.hu
If you like to subscribe to the list send an e-mail to
majordomo@euroweb.hu.
In the first line write subscribe HUNROOTS.
Thank you !

==============================================================


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ROSIN and GOLDBERG in Philadelphia #general

George Heister <heister@...>
 

I finally found my father's ship's passenger manifest. His name was
Samuel BERMAN >from Malin, Ukraine. He arrived in 1910 to Philadelphia.
PA. It lists an Aros ROSIN, cousin, who lived on Dudley Street, as the
person he came to. I also have my father's 1920 census which lists a
Joel Rosin living with him. Both of them lived with an uncle Jacob
Hersch Berman. I know all about Jacob Hersch Berman but never heard of
anyone whose last name was Rosin.

I am also looking for Wolf GOLDBERG who was in real estate in the early
1900 in Philadelphia, PA. There is also Jacob Goldberg and Abraham who
might have been his children or brothers.

Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for: BERMAN in Radomyshl and Malin, Ukraine
SHCHERBANSKY in Kodra, Ukraine and Moscow, Russia
LAMELSKY in Malin, Ukraine
CHIPOVETSKY in Radomyshl, Ukraine,Chicago and New
Haven, CT
Bernice Berman Heister
Medford, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSIN and GOLDBERG in Philadelphia #general

George Heister <heister@...>
 

I finally found my father's ship's passenger manifest. His name was
Samuel BERMAN >from Malin, Ukraine. He arrived in 1910 to Philadelphia.
PA. It lists an Aros ROSIN, cousin, who lived on Dudley Street, as the
person he came to. I also have my father's 1920 census which lists a
Joel Rosin living with him. Both of them lived with an uncle Jacob
Hersch Berman. I know all about Jacob Hersch Berman but never heard of
anyone whose last name was Rosin.

I am also looking for Wolf GOLDBERG who was in real estate in the early
1900 in Philadelphia, PA. There is also Jacob Goldberg and Abraham who
might have been his children or brothers.

Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for: BERMAN in Radomyshl and Malin, Ukraine
SHCHERBANSKY in Kodra, Ukraine and Moscow, Russia
LAMELSKY in Malin, Ukraine
CHIPOVETSKY in Radomyshl, Ukraine,Chicago and New
Haven, CT
Bernice Berman Heister
Medford, NJ


Sharing 125 copies of your family tree #general

james gross <larklane@...>
 

Hello,
I was recently asked a very good question which is of relevance
to all. This person told me that some of their relatives had
expressed a desire to receive copies of genealogy material.
They were at a loss as to what and how to respond to these
requests and how to present their tree. So, my question to you
the reader is: how does one handle such requests?

My answer: I spend 1/2 my time chasing relatives to TRY and give
them a copy of my tree. Regarding sharing genealogy info, I do
not have all my info on my webpage for security reasons.
So the webpage is not a choice for me. (even though I can do html).
I think there are 2 choices:

1) pen / typewriter & a copy machine
2) genealogy software & a copy machine

Either one works. I have just recently input most of my genealogy
info into my brothers keeper program. I use the older dos version
because its fairly easy to use. There is a new windows version that
I have but I don't like it and don't use it.

As to what one shares: I have 125 breathing relatives with addresses
to date. There is simply NO WAY that every person is getting a copy
of all my photos, family stories, and tree charts. It just isn't
practical
for me and I can't afford it. I have compromised and sent tree charts
as a one time jewish new year event. Last year I just sent
postcards & let people contact me back. When people contact me I
usually send a copy of a prepared tree to them. Either by mail or by
e-mail. (very few by e-mail).

I have 6 boxes of photos and many family stories. I have not
run into any relatives who have said: "Jim give me what you have and
I'll pay you whatever you feel is fair." Even if they did I would say
that I am not really in a position to do this. Maybe 1 rare photo per
family. ( I did that for my South Africa branch).

As long as ones trees are readable, you can send handwritten
ones out. No one is grading you. They just want to see it. You can
always grade yourself later and improve it yourself. I read it over and
over in genealogy "how-to" books: "Get that material distributed today".
The idea is that ones desire for perfection shouldn't overshadow the
actual sending & sharing of ones family tree data. Irregardless of the
actual quantity of your living relatives, costs add up. I try to effect a
happy balance between sending nothing and sending everything.
And, by sending out the trees (with errors), I am getting corrected
family info, and more names and addresses of relatives.
James Gross
LARKLANE@JUNO.COM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sharing 125 copies of your family tree #general

james gross <larklane@...>
 

Hello,
I was recently asked a very good question which is of relevance
to all. This person told me that some of their relatives had
expressed a desire to receive copies of genealogy material.
They were at a loss as to what and how to respond to these
requests and how to present their tree. So, my question to you
the reader is: how does one handle such requests?

My answer: I spend 1/2 my time chasing relatives to TRY and give
them a copy of my tree. Regarding sharing genealogy info, I do
not have all my info on my webpage for security reasons.
So the webpage is not a choice for me. (even though I can do html).
I think there are 2 choices:

1) pen / typewriter & a copy machine
2) genealogy software & a copy machine

Either one works. I have just recently input most of my genealogy
info into my brothers keeper program. I use the older dos version
because its fairly easy to use. There is a new windows version that
I have but I don't like it and don't use it.

As to what one shares: I have 125 breathing relatives with addresses
to date. There is simply NO WAY that every person is getting a copy
of all my photos, family stories, and tree charts. It just isn't
practical
for me and I can't afford it. I have compromised and sent tree charts
as a one time jewish new year event. Last year I just sent
postcards & let people contact me back. When people contact me I
usually send a copy of a prepared tree to them. Either by mail or by
e-mail. (very few by e-mail).

I have 6 boxes of photos and many family stories. I have not
run into any relatives who have said: "Jim give me what you have and
I'll pay you whatever you feel is fair." Even if they did I would say
that I am not really in a position to do this. Maybe 1 rare photo per
family. ( I did that for my South Africa branch).

As long as ones trees are readable, you can send handwritten
ones out. No one is grading you. They just want to see it. You can
always grade yourself later and improve it yourself. I read it over and
over in genealogy "how-to" books: "Get that material distributed today".
The idea is that ones desire for perfection shouldn't overshadow the
actual sending & sharing of ones family tree data. Irregardless of the
actual quantity of your living relatives, costs add up. I try to effect a
happy balance between sending nothing and sending everything.
And, by sending out the trees (with errors), I am getting corrected
family info, and more names and addresses of relatives.
James Gross
LARKLANE@JUNO.COM


PARESKY/PAREZKY #general

Cheryl Hoover <crhoover@...>
 

I have been searching for my Paresky family for years with no luck at
all. I did find out today that there was a person, whom I think might
be a brother of my ggrandfather Isaac Paresky. My question is this:
could the Hebrew spelling for Paresky be Parezky? Also, could Isaac be
Izahok? If so, then I might have a lead on this family. Any help in
this would be gratefully appreciated.
Sincerely,
Cheryl Hoover


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PARESKY/PAREZKY #general

Cheryl Hoover <crhoover@...>
 

I have been searching for my Paresky family for years with no luck at
all. I did find out today that there was a person, whom I think might
be a brother of my ggrandfather Isaac Paresky. My question is this:
could the Hebrew spelling for Paresky be Parezky? Also, could Isaac be
Izahok? If so, then I might have a lead on this family. Any help in
this would be gratefully appreciated.
Sincerely,
Cheryl Hoover


Searching LUKAWIEC (Chmelnik or Warsaw) PION (Chmielnik or Kielce) & ZIELONKA (Kielce) #general

Lukas, Anne <alukas@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners:
I am new to the group and am eagerly looking for my family members as
described above. All relatives were killed during the Holocaust, except
my parents. Thanks.

Anne Lukas (shortened >from Lukawiec!)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching LUKAWIEC (Chmelnik or Warsaw) PION (Chmielnik or Kielce) & ZIELONKA (Kielce) #general

Lukas, Anne <alukas@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners:
I am new to the group and am eagerly looking for my family members as
described above. All relatives were killed during the Holocaust, except
my parents. Thanks.

Anne Lukas (shortened >from Lukawiec!)


Re: Dokszyce Cemetery #belarus

Peri282ul@...
 

LOGANISJUDD@prodigy.net writes:
<< DUBINSKY >>

an ann dubinsky was my roommate at the U of CT in 1957-8 she was a sabra and
lived with her family in W. Hartford, CT then. I do not know her married name
we were members of Alpha Episolon Phi

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sign you messages with your full name and your city and state (or country).

If anyone is trying to find the current address or married name of a female
relative who attended a college or university, contact the alumni office.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Dokszyce Cemetery #belarus

Peri282ul@...
 

LOGANISJUDD@prodigy.net writes:
<< DUBINSKY >>

an ann dubinsky was my roommate at the U of CT in 1957-8 she was a sabra and
lived with her family in W. Hartford, CT then. I do not know her married name
we were members of Alpha Episolon Phi

MODERATOR'S NOTE: As a reminder for our newer members, please remember to
sign you messages with your full name and your city and state (or country).

If anyone is trying to find the current address or married name of a female
relative who attended a college or university, contact the alumni office.
Most colleges and universities now have web sites which can provide you
with the postal address, e-mail address, and telephone number of the alumni
office.


Family Name DUBINSKY #belarus

Bmkessler@...
 

I have seen some messages going back and forth asking about the family name of
DUBINSKY.
For what it is worth, I have some second cousins by that name. I have very few
details but I offer what I have:

Ethel Dubinsky spouse name ? Seltzer. No other info.

Mollie Dubinsky 12/27/1902 -- 1/18/1993. Spouse Joseph Fishman.

Saul A. Dubinsky 12/18/1907 - 5/1987. Spouse Dorothy ? Founded and ran a real
estate company which is still in operation here.

Bernard M. Kessler St. Louis MO
Bmkessler@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Family Name DUBINSKY #belarus

Bmkessler@...
 

I have seen some messages going back and forth asking about the family name of
DUBINSKY.
For what it is worth, I have some second cousins by that name. I have very few
details but I offer what I have:

Ethel Dubinsky spouse name ? Seltzer. No other info.

Mollie Dubinsky 12/27/1902 -- 1/18/1993. Spouse Joseph Fishman.

Saul A. Dubinsky 12/18/1907 - 5/1987. Spouse Dorothy ? Founded and ran a real
estate company which is still in operation here.

Bernard M. Kessler St. Louis MO
Bmkessler@aol.com