Good luck with your Family Reunion!

I've put a report on my web page >from our last ROSENSTEIN family reunion. It
includes an example for a great name tag idea, as well as a Lessons Learned
report. You can see it at:

http://www.mrccos.com/lrose/picnicrpt.htm

Larry Rose
lrose@dragon.net

Good luck with your Family Reunion!

I've put a report on my web page >from our last ROSENSTEIN family reunion. It
includes an example for a great name tag idea, as well as a Lessons Learned
report. You can see it at:

http://www.mrccos.com/lrose/picnicrpt.htm

Larry Rose
lrose@dragon.net

Dear Prof. Hirschhorn,

Gladly! For some unknown and not understanble reason the list
administrator erased this data and some other >from the original post.

<http://www.geocities/Heartland/Flats/1756>;

Please, do not forget to sign the guest book and I am looking forward
to receive comments, advise and recomendations to improve it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---"Prof. Harry J. Hirschhorn" <hirshorn@naltec.co.il> wrote:

why not share the address of your homesite webpage with us?
regards Harry
-----Original Message-----
From: Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@yahoo.com>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: ùáú 24 àå÷èåáø 1998 06:26
Subject: Re: h-sig digest: October 22, 1998

Dear friends,

Beeing new in the list. I am a little mixed up with the information
about the "embarkation manifests". May I request clarification:

1.- What is definitely the procedure to get hold of the Embarkation
Manifests >from Hamburg and/or >from any other european port that

jewish

emigration form Slovakia used to travel to the USA?Which where these
other Ports?

2.- Since what year do exist such documents and in what lenguages?

3.- Beeeing these documents so important for any geneological
research, I am interested to get hold of as many as possible. Could
those of you who already have in their hands Ship Manifests be so

kind

and mail copies to me> If there is any fee involved, please, let me
know:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan 52181
ISRAEL

4.- In order to see the families I am interested in, I invite all of
you to visit my Home Page, Sign the Guest Book and your comments and
recomendations will be more than welcomed as I am yet working on it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---The2thdkdr@aol.com wrote:

In response to:
"The mention of a different list for embarking >from Hamburg and

for

entry

into the U.S. is a new one on me. I am under the
impression that the passenger manifest was created at the port of

embarkation

and were the *same* ones that were used when people entered the

U.S. Can

someone please clarify this point please?"

Dear Carol, I have a copy of both manifests. One leaving Hamburg

and the

other entering New York Harbor. They are definitely two different

lists made

out by different people.
This is true for the manifests I have checked in the 1880's.

Perhaps later

things changed. Wayne

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You could find information about the Amzallag family in the book "Sephardi
entrepreneurs in Eretz Israel. The Amzallak family, 1816-1918", par Joseph
B. Glass et Ruth Kark (Jerusalem, The Magnes Press, The Hebrew University, 1991)

The name Amzallag or Amzallak is mentioned by Abraham Laredo ("Les noms des
Juifs du Maroc", Madrid CSIC, 1978) and by J.M. Abecassis ("Genealogia
Hebraica, Portugal e Gibraltar", 5 volumes, Lisbonne, 1990).

This name has probably a Berber origin, meaning "collar maker" (See article
by Jacques Taieb "Berber matter in onomastics of Maghreb Jews", in Etsi,
Sephardic Genealogical and Historical Review, Vol.1, N=B02, autumn 1998,
to be published at the end of this month). The website of Etsi is:
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1321

Philip Abensur

Dear Prof. Hirschhorn,

Gladly! For some unknown and not understanble reason the list
administrator erased this data and some other >from the original post.

<http://www.geocities/Heartland/Flats/1756>;

Please, do not forget to sign the guest book and I am looking forward
to receive comments, advise and recomendations to improve it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---"Prof. Harry J. Hirschhorn" <hirshorn@naltec.co.il> wrote:

why not share the address of your homesite webpage with us?
regards Harry
-----Original Message-----
From: Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@yahoo.com>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: ùáú 24 àå÷èåáø 1998 06:26
Subject: Re: h-sig digest: October 22, 1998

Dear friends,

Beeing new in the list. I am a little mixed up with the information
about the "embarkation manifests". May I request clarification:

1.- What is definitely the procedure to get hold of the Embarkation
Manifests >from Hamburg and/or >from any other european port that

jewish

emigration form Slovakia used to travel to the USA?Which where these
other Ports?

2.- Since what year do exist such documents and in what lenguages?

3.- Beeeing these documents so important for any geneological
research, I am interested to get hold of as many as possible. Could
those of you who already have in their hands Ship Manifests be so

kind

and mail copies to me> If there is any fee involved, please, let me
know:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan 52181
ISRAEL

4.- In order to see the families I am interested in, I invite all of
you to visit my Home Page, Sign the Guest Book and your comments and
recomendations will be more than welcomed as I am yet working on it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---The2thdkdr@aol.com wrote:

In response to:
"The mention of a different list for embarking >from Hamburg and

for

entry

into the U.S. is a new one on me. I am under the
impression that the passenger manifest was created at the port of

embarkation

and were the *same* ones that were used when people entered the

U.S. Can

someone please clarify this point please?"

Dear Carol, I have a copy of both manifests. One leaving Hamburg

and the

other entering New York Harbor. They are definitely two different

lists made

out by different people.
This is true for the manifests I have checked in the 1880's.

Perhaps later

things changed. Wayne

This SIG (h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
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You could find information about the Amzallag family in the book "Sephardi
entrepreneurs in Eretz Israel. The Amzallak family, 1816-1918", par Joseph
B. Glass et Ruth Kark (Jerusalem, The Magnes Press, The Hebrew University, 1991)

The name Amzallag or Amzallak is mentioned by Abraham Laredo ("Les noms des
Juifs du Maroc", Madrid CSIC, 1978) and by J.M. Abecassis ("Genealogia
Hebraica, Portugal e Gibraltar", 5 volumes, Lisbonne, 1990).

This name has probably a Berber origin, meaning "collar maker" (See article
by Jacques Taieb "Berber matter in onomastics of Maghreb Jews", in Etsi,
Sephardic Genealogical and Historical Review, Vol.1, N=B02, autumn 1998,
to be published at the end of this month). The website of Etsi is:
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1321

Philip Abensur

---Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@yahoo.com> wrote:

Friends,

Please, excuse me if I do not yet know very well the forms to contact
the list.

As I am a little mixed up with the information on Embarkation
Lists/Manifests and beeing these documents so important for
genealogical research for any family originated in Slovakia, may I ask
the following:

1. What is the exact procedure to get hold of the Embarkation Lists or
Ship Manifests >from Hamburg or any other european port used to travel
to USA?

2. Which where the other embarkations ports?

3. Since what year do exist Embarkation Manifests?

4. I am interested to get hold of as many Embarkation Manifests as
possible. Could any one of you that already has all or some of them,
be so kind and facilitate photocopies of them to me? Please, let me
know costs to cover. My mail address:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan. 52181
ISRAEL

5. In order to see the families I am interested in and maybe even
find any connection, please, I invite you to visit my Home Page with
My Family Tree and Sign my Guest Book. Any suggestions, comments and
advise to improve it will be more than welcomed.

<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1756/>;

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein


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---Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@yahoo.com> wrote:

Friends,

Please, excuse me if I do not yet know very well the forms to contact
the list.

As I am a little mixed up with the information on Embarkation
Lists/Manifests and beeing these documents so important for
genealogical research for any family originated in Slovakia, may I ask
the following:

1. What is the exact procedure to get hold of the Embarkation Lists or
Ship Manifests >from Hamburg or any other european port used to travel
to USA?

2. Which where the other embarkations ports?

3. Since what year do exist Embarkation Manifests?

4. I am interested to get hold of as many Embarkation Manifests as
possible. Could any one of you that already has all or some of them,
be so kind and facilitate photocopies of them to me? Please, let me
know costs to cover. My mail address:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan. 52181
ISRAEL

5. In order to see the families I am interested in and maybe even
find any connection, please, I invite you to visit my Home Page with
My Family Tree and Sign my Guest Book. Any suggestions, comments and
advise to improve it will be more than welcomed.

<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1756/>;

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein


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Touvia,
The best source of research on passenger lists or for that matter
for any genealogical material is the Family History Library at
the Mormon Church, formally named The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah , USA.
Most of their churches have what are called Family History
Centers (FHC) where you can access information and order
microfilm and microfiche. Their records are easily the largest
collection in the world. I have a phone number which may work

from Israel on an International Call, 1-800-240-1126. I think

that a mail address is
Family History Department
50 East Temple Street
Salt Lake City, UT 84150
I would suggest that you look for a FHC in Israel, if not write
for assistance to the address listed above. They have a lot of
research outlines and other printed material that is either free
or cost only pennies. For instance, I have a 4 page pamphlet they
published on the Hamburg Passenger lists that provide helpful
information. In any case, here is the URL for the web page that
provides information on the Hamburg list:
http://www.genealogy.com/gene/ This page also has a link for
NARA genealogy.

Happy hunting

Ruffin R Cooper

Touvia,
The best source of research on passenger lists or for that matter
for any genealogical material is the Family History Library at
the Mormon Church, formally named The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah , USA.
Most of their churches have what are called Family History
Centers (FHC) where you can access information and order
microfilm and microfiche. Their records are easily the largest
collection in the world. I have a phone number which may work

from Israel on an International Call, 1-800-240-1126. I think

that a mail address is
Family History Department
50 East Temple Street
Salt Lake City, UT 84150
I would suggest that you look for a FHC in Israel, if not write
for assistance to the address listed above. They have a lot of
research outlines and other printed material that is either free
or cost only pennies. For instance, I have a 4 page pamphlet they
published on the Hamburg Passenger lists that provide helpful
information. In any case, here is the URL for the web page that
provides information on the Hamburg list:
http://www.genealogy.com/gene/ This page also has a link for
NARA genealogy.

Happy hunting

Ruffin R Cooper

KINS stands congregation "Knesses Israel Nusaach Sford" and was once
located on the west side of Chicago and now on the north end of town. My
grandfather was an officer when it was located on the west side. Some
months back I wrote to them for some information in advance of a visit to
Chicago. Never heard a word >from them -- hope you have better luck with
them. Marshall Schaffner
Martinez, California

KINS stands congregation "Knesses Israel Nusaach Sford" and was once
located on the west side of Chicago and now on the north end of town. My
grandfather was an officer when it was located on the west side. Some
months back I wrote to them for some information in advance of a visit to
Chicago. Never heard a word >from them -- hope you have better luck with
them. Marshall Schaffner
Martinez, California

I believe that the passenger lists for ships leaving Hamburg were
filled out by German officials using their own forms. The
passenger lists filled out at the port of arrival (e.g. New York)
were filled out by a ships officer and submitted to the
immigration authorities. I would doubt that the civil servants in
New York will fill out forms listing all the names for a group of
1000 immigrants (not too unusal for a large shipload), it would
slow up debarkation, at the least. I would expect that the
Hamburg lists would be more valuable since they include the
city/town that the person had last lived. Can anyone confirm
this?

Ruffin R Cooper
p.s. my relatives came >from Budapest via Antwerp to New York.

I believe that the passenger lists for ships leaving Hamburg were
filled out by German officials using their own forms. The
passenger lists filled out at the port of arrival (e.g. New York)
were filled out by a ships officer and submitted to the
immigration authorities. I would doubt that the civil servants in
New York will fill out forms listing all the names for a group of
1000 immigrants (not too unusal for a large shipload), it would
slow up debarkation, at the least. I would expect that the
Hamburg lists would be more valuable since they include the
city/town that the person had last lived. Can anyone confirm
this?

Ruffin R Cooper
p.s. my relatives came >from Budapest via Antwerp to New York.

Anyone who was at the home of Boitsfort,in Brussels after the war,
please contact me.
I am also interrested to know what happened to Dr. Muller

Ray van Frank
rvanf@sprint.ca

Anyone who was at the home of Boitsfort,in Brussels after the war,
please contact me.
I am also interrested to know what happened to Dr. Muller

Ray van Frank
rvanf@sprint.ca

If there is someone who is in the areas of B'nai Israel Cemetery in
Samokin, PA (near Sunbury and Scranton), or in the neighborhood of the
Jewish cemetery in Pleasantville, NJ (sorry, I don't know the name of
it), please let me know. I would appreciate it if you can take photos
of four tombstones (3 in Shamokin and 1 in Pleasantville).

Please reply privately to
rickiz@mindspring.com

TIA,
Ricki Lynn Randall Zunk
Miami, FL

If there is someone who is in the areas of B'nai Israel Cemetery in
Samokin, PA (near Sunbury and Scranton), or in the neighborhood of the
Jewish cemetery in Pleasantville, NJ (sorry, I don't know the name of
it), please let me know. I would appreciate it if you can take photos
of four tombstones (3 in Shamokin and 1 in Pleasantville).

Please reply privately to
rickiz@mindspring.com

TIA,
Ricki Lynn Randall Zunk
Miami, FL

Rene van Wijngaarden wrote:

Like to contact researchers who have experience with the geographical
are a of Bordeaux/Bayonne in France.
Would like to know too if there still is a Jewish Community in those
places.

Of course there are still communities in Bordeaux and Bayonne.
If you want more informations about these communities, write
for Bordeaux to:

Consistoire israelite (synagogue)
213 rue Ste Catherine
33000 Bordeaux

or for Bayonne to

Consistoire Isralite
35 rue Maubec
64100 Bayonne

I don't know what you mean exactly by "having experience with the
geographical area of Bordeaux/Bayonne" but if you have a particular
question to ask, e-mail me privately, and I or somebody else in the
Cercle should be able to help you.

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (France)
Alkrams@aol.com or alkrams@iresco.fr

Rene van Wijngaarden wrote:

Like to contact researchers who have experience with the geographical
are a of Bordeaux/Bayonne in France.
Would like to know too if there still is a Jewish Community in those
places.

Of course there are still communities in Bordeaux and Bayonne.
If you want more informations about these communities, write
for Bordeaux to:

Consistoire israelite (synagogue)
213 rue Ste Catherine
33000 Bordeaux

or for Bayonne to

Consistoire Isralite
35 rue Maubec
64100 Bayonne

I don't know what you mean exactly by "having experience with the
geographical area of Bordeaux/Bayonne" but if you have a particular
question to ask, e-mail me privately, and I or somebody else in the
Cercle should be able to help you.

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (France)
Alkrams@aol.com or alkrams@iresco.fr