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Re: Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Thank you.

My post and questions came with the intention to request >from those
list members with experience in the use of embarkation and and arrival
lists, to clarify and order the issue that, due to different posts
that have been and are yet beeing posted, not only are confusing but
some how, contradictory.

So, it maybe a good idea and even very useful a complete clarification
of this issue to the list.

As well, not having personally worked with the lists and not having
them in my hands, and learning >from the posts that have been submitted
to the list that it is difficult to get them, it is proper to request
from those of you who have them, to find a way, maybe, a shorter one,
to get them.I am interested.

I tried different ways to contact the Mormons in Jerusalem and have
yet not been succesful to get help >from them. I would apreciate if
someone who is in contact with them, to let me know the exact people
to contact.

Touvia Goldstein




---korman3@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Please don't think that your inquiry was in any way boring or
inappropriate. Most of the researchers on the SIG are experienced and
know all of the ins and outs of obtaining ship manifests, so I did not
want to go into detailed explanations on the SIG, since the
information
can be somewhat convoluted.

I'm going to check out your website.

Nice to have you on the SIG. I'm sure that with your experience you
will
be able to make some excellent contributions.

Debbi
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Thank you and apologies #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <touviagoldstein@...>
 

Hi Debbie,

Thank you.

My post and questions came with the intention to request >from those
list members with experience in the use of embarkation and and arrival
lists, to clarify and order the issue that, due to different posts
that have been and are yet beeing posted, not only are confusing but
some how, contradictory.

So, it maybe a good idea and even very useful a complete clarification
of this issue to the list.

As well, not having personally worked with the lists and not having
them in my hands, and learning >from the posts that have been submitted
to the list that it is difficult to get them, it is proper to request
from those of you who have them, to find a way, maybe, a shorter one,
to get them.I am interested.

I tried different ways to contact the Mormons in Jerusalem and have
yet not been succesful to get help >from them. I would apreciate if
someone who is in contact with them, to let me know the exact people
to contact.

Touvia Goldstein




---korman3@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Please don't think that your inquiry was in any way boring or
inappropriate. Most of the researchers on the SIG are experienced and
know all of the ins and outs of obtaining ship manifests, so I did not
want to go into detailed explanations on the SIG, since the
information
can be somewhat convoluted.

I'm going to check out your website.

Nice to have you on the SIG. I'm sure that with your experience you
will
be able to make some excellent contributions.

Debbi
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Re: h-sig digest: October 22, 1998 #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

The Mormon Church Family History library microfilmed the Hamburg
embarkation manifests and the index to those manifests. Actually, they
are quite difficult to use. If your ancestor came to the US after 1897,
and especially after 1906, the US arrival manifests have equal, if not
more, information. The embarkation manifests >from Hamburg are in
German.

US arrival manifests are on microfilm through the early 1930s at the
Mormon library, as well as the NY port indexes and indexes for some
other ports. The indexes and manifests are also available through the
National Archives.

I don't know much about the Rotterdam information. A giant index exists
in Rotterdam, and a few libraries around the world have it. It is very
expensive, so it is not widely held.

I'm not sure where you are in your research background - new to the
list or new to research. So, rather than bore the whole group, if you
need further guidance, feel free to contact me directly.

Debbi


You wrote:


Dear friends,

Beeing new in the list. I am a little mixed up with the information
about the "embarkation manifests". May I request clarification:

1.- What is definitely the procedure to get hold of the Embarkation
Manifests >from Hamburg and/or >from any other european port that jewish
emigration form Slovakia used to travel to the USA?Which where these
other Ports?

2.- Since what year do exist such documents and in what lenguages?

3.- Beeeing these documents so important for any geneological
research, I am interested to get hold of as many as possible. Could
those of you who already have in their hands Ship Manifests be so kind
and mail copies to me> If there is any fee involved, please, let me
know:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan 52181
ISRAEL

4.- In order to see the families I am interested in, I invite all of
you to visit my Home Page, Sign the Guest Book and your comments and
recomendations will be more than welcomed as I am yet working on it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---The2thdkdr@aol.com wrote:

In response to:
"The mention of a different list for embarking >from Hamburg and for
entry
into the U.S. is a new one on me. I am under the
impression that the passenger manifest was created at the port of
embarkation
and were the *same* ones that were used when people entered the
U.S. Can
someone please clarify this point please?"

Dear Carol, I have a copy of both manifests. One leaving Hamburg
and the
other entering New York Harbor. They are definitely two different
lists made
out by different people.
This is true for the manifests I have checked in the 1880's.
Perhaps later
things changed. Wayne

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: October 22, 1998 #hungary

Lawrence Korman <korman3@...>
 

The Mormon Church Family History library microfilmed the Hamburg
embarkation manifests and the index to those manifests. Actually, they
are quite difficult to use. If your ancestor came to the US after 1897,
and especially after 1906, the US arrival manifests have equal, if not
more, information. The embarkation manifests >from Hamburg are in
German.

US arrival manifests are on microfilm through the early 1930s at the
Mormon library, as well as the NY port indexes and indexes for some
other ports. The indexes and manifests are also available through the
National Archives.

I don't know much about the Rotterdam information. A giant index exists
in Rotterdam, and a few libraries around the world have it. It is very
expensive, so it is not widely held.

I'm not sure where you are in your research background - new to the
list or new to research. So, rather than bore the whole group, if you
need further guidance, feel free to contact me directly.

Debbi


You wrote:


Dear friends,

Beeing new in the list. I am a little mixed up with the information
about the "embarkation manifests". May I request clarification:

1.- What is definitely the procedure to get hold of the Embarkation
Manifests >from Hamburg and/or >from any other european port that jewish
emigration form Slovakia used to travel to the USA?Which where these
other Ports?

2.- Since what year do exist such documents and in what lenguages?

3.- Beeeing these documents so important for any geneological
research, I am interested to get hold of as many as possible. Could
those of you who already have in their hands Ship Manifests be so kind
and mail copies to me> If there is any fee involved, please, let me
know:

Touvia Goldstein
P.O.B. 8235
Ramat Gan 52181
ISRAEL

4.- In order to see the families I am interested in, I invite all of
you to visit my Home Page, Sign the Guest Book and your comments and
recomendations will be more than welcomed as I am yet working on it.

Sinc.

Touvia Goldstein




---The2thdkdr@aol.com wrote:

In response to:
"The mention of a different list for embarking >from Hamburg and for
entry
into the U.S. is a new one on me. I am under the
impression that the passenger manifest was created at the port of
embarkation
and were the *same* ones that were used when people entered the
U.S. Can
someone please clarify this point please?"

Dear Carol, I have a copy of both manifests. One leaving Hamburg
and the
other entering New York Harbor. They are definitely two different
lists made
out by different people.
This is true for the manifests I have checked in the 1880's.
Perhaps later
things changed. Wayne

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Question about 19th century Russian census #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was wondering whether anyone had an insight to the following problem. In
census data >from the last third of the 19th century (1875), there was an
entry for my great-great-grandfather and one of his sons. There is no
mention of his wife, whose name I have yet to confirm. On the other hand,
there is no evidence to suggest she was not alive at the time. Is there a
possibility of a census not including a woman's name? Her husband was 45
years old. >from my attempts at comparing Hebrew names among a variety of
relatives born after 1875,it would appear she was indeed still alive until
the beginning of the 20th century.

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question about 19th century Russian census #general

David Goldman <davic@...>
 

I was wondering whether anyone had an insight to the following problem. In
census data >from the last third of the 19th century (1875), there was an
entry for my great-great-grandfather and one of his sons. There is no
mention of his wife, whose name I have yet to confirm. On the other hand,
there is no evidence to suggest she was not alive at the time. Is there a
possibility of a census not including a woman's name? Her husband was 45
years old. >from my attempts at comparing Hebrew names among a variety of
relatives born after 1875,it would appear she was indeed still alive until
the beginning of the 20th century.

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


Re: Bristol Synagogue #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

Judith Samuel has just published a book on the history of the Bristol
Jewish community.

Harold Pollins

Adrian Paul wrote

I am seeking information on the Bristol Synagogue (England)-
particularly on its history in the early to mid 1800's.
Can anyone help me?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bristol Synagogue #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

Judith Samuel has just published a book on the history of the Bristol
Jewish community.

Harold Pollins

Adrian Paul wrote

I am seeking information on the Bristol Synagogue (England)-
particularly on its history in the early to mid 1800's.
Can anyone help me?


LEYBA, LEIBA... #general

lavleon@...
 

Hi!
I search origin of my surname. If anybody know about this please let
me know.
Thanx

Andrey Leyba
Ucraine Kharkov


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LEYBA, LEIBA... #general

lavleon@...
 

Hi!
I search origin of my surname. If anybody know about this please let
me know.
Thanx

Andrey Leyba
Ucraine Kharkov


JAFFE department store Great Neck, New York #general

Rialan <rialan@...>
 

I am searching for information regarding the owners of the JAFFE department
store in Great Neck, New York. The family ran it about 50 years ago. There
were sons Mike and Ike. There may also have been family named Moses. There
were sisters named Tilly and Lilly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Richard Eisner
Merion, Pa.
Rialan@aol.com
SEARCHING ISAKOWITZ,TRACHEFSKY Mir, Novogrudok;BERKOWITZ, Drobin;WOLKOWICZ,
Gabin, GOLDSTEIN,PLAIN,ISAKOV, Linkuva


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JAFFE department store Great Neck, New York #general

Rialan <rialan@...>
 

I am searching for information regarding the owners of the JAFFE department
store in Great Neck, New York. The family ran it about 50 years ago. There
were sons Mike and Ike. There may also have been family named Moses. There
were sisters named Tilly and Lilly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Richard Eisner
Merion, Pa.
Rialan@aol.com
SEARCHING ISAKOWITZ,TRACHEFSKY Mir, Novogrudok;BERKOWITZ, Drobin;WOLKOWICZ,
Gabin, GOLDSTEIN,PLAIN,ISAKOV, Linkuva


Tumin, Saetzer #lithuania

Wolinsky <wolinsky@...>
 

I appreciate recent help >from LitvakSig members. I had a couple mroe
questions I hoped you could help me with:
(1) I have traced a long line of relatives named TUMIN >from Shrednik. I
have have the revisionist list material. There are a variety of spellings
TUMEN, TUMAN, etc. Does anyone have any suggestions on the origin of the name?
(2) ANother relative was referred to as Meyer Saetzer SLIFKIN. We had been
led to believe that Saetzer was his name, but it does not show up in any
records. It has been suggested that Saetzer is some sort of title or
nickname. Anyone have any suggestions?
Howard Wolinsky
Flossmoor, IL
In search of ISRAEL/TUMIN/SRAGON/SLIFKIN


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Tumin, Saetzer #lithuania

Wolinsky <wolinsky@...>
 

I appreciate recent help >from LitvakSig members. I had a couple mroe
questions I hoped you could help me with:
(1) I have traced a long line of relatives named TUMIN >from Shrednik. I
have have the revisionist list material. There are a variety of spellings
TUMEN, TUMAN, etc. Does anyone have any suggestions on the origin of the name?
(2) ANother relative was referred to as Meyer Saetzer SLIFKIN. We had been
led to believe that Saetzer was his name, but it does not show up in any
records. It has been suggested that Saetzer is some sort of title or
nickname. Anyone have any suggestions?
Howard Wolinsky
Flossmoor, IL
In search of ISRAEL/TUMIN/SRAGON/SLIFKIN


Balzekaus Museum of Lithuanian Culture #lithuania

HankPropp@...
 

I couple of days ago I wrote that I used the Balzekaus Museum of Lithuanian
Culture of Chicago to translate both Lithuanian and Russian documents and that
found them very satisfactory, reasonably priced and fast turnaround times. I
have been asked for the address of the museum

The mail address:

Balzekaus Museum of Lithuanian Culture
IHG Department
6500 South Pulaski Road
Chicago, Illinois 60629
773-582-6500 Phone
773-582-5133 Fax


Ms. Karile Vaitkute is charge of the translation depatment. The cost was
$00.09/Word. You should check this, as it has been sometime since I used the
their services.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Balzekaus Museum of Lithuanian Culture #lithuania

HankPropp@...
 

I couple of days ago I wrote that I used the Balzekaus Museum of Lithuanian
Culture of Chicago to translate both Lithuanian and Russian documents and that
found them very satisfactory, reasonably priced and fast turnaround times. I
have been asked for the address of the museum

The mail address:

Balzekaus Museum of Lithuanian Culture
IHG Department
6500 South Pulaski Road
Chicago, Illinois 60629
773-582-6500 Phone
773-582-5133 Fax


Ms. Karile Vaitkute is charge of the translation depatment. The cost was
$00.09/Word. You should check this, as it has been sometime since I used the
their services.


Re: SA ships: The Cape Run and the Jewishgen Archives #general

JLowenkron@...
 

The Jewishgen Archives came in very handy when my cousin and I were trying to
decipher the headings of the Civil Registration I received >from Warsaw...I
used the translation book at the FHC for most of the words, but they didnt
have a translation for Sandek...my cousin looked up a posting in the Archives,
and there it was, it means godfather...does anyone know what the word Pathe or
Tathe means, used in a similar context...I m guessing it might mean godmother
or the person who passes the baby to the godfather to pass to the Mohel...any
guesses? Jane Lowenkron Foss, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SA ships: The Cape Run and the Jewishgen Archives #general

JLowenkron@...
 

The Jewishgen Archives came in very handy when my cousin and I were trying to
decipher the headings of the Civil Registration I received >from Warsaw...I
used the translation book at the FHC for most of the words, but they didnt
have a translation for Sandek...my cousin looked up a posting in the Archives,
and there it was, it means godfather...does anyone know what the word Pathe or
Tathe means, used in a similar context...I m guessing it might mean godmother
or the person who passes the baby to the godfather to pass to the Mohel...any
guesses? Jane Lowenkron Foss, NYC


Searching: EYGES, EIGES #general

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

Is anyone researching the surnames EYGES or EIGES. (I am also pursuing
the entries in the JGFF for these names.)

The name as the same soudex code as OGUS, and I'm wondering if there
may be a connection between the two families.

I'd appreciate hearing >from anyone who has information on families with
these two surnames.

Thanks.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: EYGES, EIGES #general

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

Is anyone researching the surnames EYGES or EIGES. (I am also pursuing
the entries in the JGFF for these names.)

The name as the same soudex code as OGUS, and I'm wondering if there
may be a connection between the two families.

I'd appreciate hearing >from anyone who has information on families with
these two surnames.

Thanks.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com