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1942 VILNA GHETTO LIST #lithuania

K.& L. Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

Recently I received information >from the latest version of the 1942 Vilna
Ghetto List, relating to LAPIDUS names.

What was very interesting about this latest information is that it included
occupations, which I haven't been able to translate.

Can anybody translate these occupations or direct me to an online site
which might give me some information. I do not have any other access to
Jewish or LDS resources as I live out in the bush.

The occupations/classifications listed were :

siuvejas/siuveja
rastininke
laiku siuveja
skalbytoja
tapytojas
darbininkas
stalius

In fact these words might be in Lithuanian?

Can anyone direct me to an online site where I could have a look at this
latest version of the 1942 Ghetto List.

Also, does anyone have lists of businesses/occupations for Vilna say prior
to 1915 - I know my GGGF Ahron ben Shlomo Lapidus b.1844 Vilna/Paberze had
a business - LAPIDUS FURNITURE CO. - three branches - run by my GGGF Ahron
ben Shlomo Lapidus in Vilna and his brother Beny in Libau and another
brother in Paris (ancestor of Ted Lapidus and his son Olivier Lapidus and
Ted's sister Rose Mett-Torrente). Although our family did have limited
contact with the Lapidus family in Paris in the 1960s, when the Paris
branch of Lapidus Furniture Co. was still in business and was being managed
by possibly a granddaughter of ? Lapidus whom my late Great Uncle met in
Paris on his way to the Rome Olympic Games in 1960 where he was an official
guest.

Thank you.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho downunder
klb@...

SHTEINGOER/STEINGAUER/STEINHAUER Vilna/Canada/USA/South Africa
STEINHAUER-FOX/FINEBERG, STEINHAUER-DAROFF/DROZ descendants
Vilna/Canada/USA. LAPIDUS Vilna/Paberze, Libau, Paris.
JACOBOWITSCH/YAKERBOVICH (Russian Duma). SILBER Vilna?/Paris.
SNIPISHKER, Vilna. ARONIS/PALM Libau. LANDO/MORGUOULIES/MORGULIS Odessa.
STUCER/STUTZER Vilna, Grodno/Minsk, USA, frmr USSR.
ROSENBLATT/MORGULIS/MORGUILIES Vilna, Odessa, USA.
ZIPPER/WEISS/SCHILLER/STEINER/RECHT Vienna/Galicia/Czechoslovakia.
GOLD/FUCHS/CZILLAG/HERZOG Vienna/USA (DUNERA).
POLLACK/POLYAK FROMCHUK Vinnitza, Mogilev-Podylia, Odessa.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania 1942 VILNA GHETTO LIST #lithuania

K.& L. Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

Recently I received information >from the latest version of the 1942 Vilna
Ghetto List, relating to LAPIDUS names.

What was very interesting about this latest information is that it included
occupations, which I haven't been able to translate.

Can anybody translate these occupations or direct me to an online site
which might give me some information. I do not have any other access to
Jewish or LDS resources as I live out in the bush.

The occupations/classifications listed were :

siuvejas/siuveja
rastininke
laiku siuveja
skalbytoja
tapytojas
darbininkas
stalius

In fact these words might be in Lithuanian?

Can anyone direct me to an online site where I could have a look at this
latest version of the 1942 Ghetto List.

Also, does anyone have lists of businesses/occupations for Vilna say prior
to 1915 - I know my GGGF Ahron ben Shlomo Lapidus b.1844 Vilna/Paberze had
a business - LAPIDUS FURNITURE CO. - three branches - run by my GGGF Ahron
ben Shlomo Lapidus in Vilna and his brother Beny in Libau and another
brother in Paris (ancestor of Ted Lapidus and his son Olivier Lapidus and
Ted's sister Rose Mett-Torrente). Although our family did have limited
contact with the Lapidus family in Paris in the 1960s, when the Paris
branch of Lapidus Furniture Co. was still in business and was being managed
by possibly a granddaughter of ? Lapidus whom my late Great Uncle met in
Paris on his way to the Rome Olympic Games in 1960 where he was an official
guest.

Thank you.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho downunder
klb@...

SHTEINGOER/STEINGAUER/STEINHAUER Vilna/Canada/USA/South Africa
STEINHAUER-FOX/FINEBERG, STEINHAUER-DAROFF/DROZ descendants
Vilna/Canada/USA. LAPIDUS Vilna/Paberze, Libau, Paris.
JACOBOWITSCH/YAKERBOVICH (Russian Duma). SILBER Vilna?/Paris.
SNIPISHKER, Vilna. ARONIS/PALM Libau. LANDO/MORGUOULIES/MORGULIS Odessa.
STUCER/STUTZER Vilna, Grodno/Minsk, USA, frmr USSR.
ROSENBLATT/MORGULIS/MORGUILIES Vilna, Odessa, USA.
ZIPPER/WEISS/SCHILLER/STEINER/RECHT Vienna/Galicia/Czechoslovakia.
GOLD/FUCHS/CZILLAG/HERZOG Vienna/USA (DUNERA).
POLLACK/POLYAK FROMCHUK Vinnitza, Mogilev-Podylia, Odessa.


SILBER/STEINHAUER/LAPIDUS #lithuania

K.& L. Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

I recently had a look at the wonderful All Lithuania Database and one of
the names I entered was SILBER - which is one of the names my Mama Nana
told me - I think it could be connected to our
SHTEINGOER/SHTEINGAUER/SHTEINHAUER family (Novy Gorod, Vilna) or our
LAPIDUS family >from Paberze/Vilna. Anyway, although no SILBER names came
up, one of the entries on the list was :

SELIBER JOSEF 1899, Snipiskes, Lith. Hamelitz #223

I couldn't find a shtetl called Snipiskes listed in Lithuanian Jewish
Communities.

However, in the information we recently received >from the Vilnius Archives
there was a marriage record :

Vilna citizen Josel ben Lipman SHTEINGAUER, not married, 24 years old,
married Vilna citizen, Miss Chana-Michla bat Berko SNIPISHKER, 23 years old
on 26th January 1903 (Julien date?).

I am pretty certain Josel was the son of Lipman ben Yaacov Shteingauer b.
1850 Novy Gorod, Vilna, who was the youngest brother of my GGGM Bathsheva
(nee SHTEINGAUER/STEINHAUER LAPIDUS b.1841). We hadn't known about him or
his two brohers before we received the information >from Vilnius and
previously only knew about our GGGM and her three sisters.

Also some information we received regarding the 1942 Vilna Ghetto Lists
included Moshe SNIPISKIER B.1882 at the same address as Shmuel Shteingauer
B.1911. I think this information was actually >from Bleter Vegn Vilna
rather than the 1942 Ghetto List.

Although I have seen information >from the latest version of the 1942 Vilna
Ghetto List, this only applied to the LAPIDUS names, so I have not seen the
latest information relating to STEINHAUER names and I haven't seen
reference to this being online yet. What was very interesting about this
latest information is that it included occupations, which I haven't been
able to translate. What was also interesting about the LAPIDUS list was
the reference to the Kallis fur factory as our GGGGF Yankel Shteingauer was
definitely in the fur trade in Vilna. I will write a separate message to
the list about this.

Does anyone know anything about a shtetl called SNIPISKES or the name
SNIPISHKER/SNIPISKIER? Has anyone got any SILBER or possibly SELIBER names
from Vilna on their trees? We have some information about the SILBER
family in Paris which we definitely also know is connected somehow to our
STEINHAUER-LAPIDUS family.

Does anyone have lists of businesses/occupations for Vilna say prior to
1915 - I know our GGGGF was in the fur business, but do not know if he had
a shop or a factory or was a trader in fur.

Is the latest version of the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list available on line - I
do not have access to any other Jewish libraries/resources or LDS as I live
out in the bush? I am particularly interested in finding out about any
STEINHAUER and LAPIDUS and STUCER/STUTZER and ROSENBLATT and SILBER and
SNIPISKER names - the family of my late GGM Anna (Chana Steinhauer Lapidus)
Aronis/Pollack b. Vilna 1878 d. Melbourne 1955, and her slaughtered
sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews.......

Thank you.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho downunder
klb@...

SHTEINGOER/STEINGAUER/STEINHAUER Vilna/Canada/USA/South Africa
STEINHAUER-FOX/FINEBERG, STEINHAUER-DAROFF/DROZ descendants
Vilna/Canada/USA. LAPIDUS Vilna/Paberze, Libau, Paris.
JACOBOWITSCH/YAKERBOVICH (Russian Duma). SILBER Vilna?/Paris.
SNIPISHKER, Vilna. ARONIS/PALM Libau. LANDO/MORGUOULIES/MORGULIS Odessa.
STUCER/STUTZER Vilna, Grodno/Minsk, USA, frmr USSR.
ROSENBLATT/MORGULIS/MORGUILIES Vilna, Odessa, USA.
ZIPPER/WEISS/SCHILLER/STEINER/RECHT Vienna/Galicia/Czechoslovakia.
GOLD/FUCHS/CZILLAG/HERZOG Vienna/USA (DUNERA).
POLLACK/POLYAK FROMCHUK Vinnitza, Mogilev-Podylia, Odessa.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania SILBER/STEINHAUER/LAPIDUS #lithuania

K.& L. Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

I recently had a look at the wonderful All Lithuania Database and one of
the names I entered was SILBER - which is one of the names my Mama Nana
told me - I think it could be connected to our
SHTEINGOER/SHTEINGAUER/SHTEINHAUER family (Novy Gorod, Vilna) or our
LAPIDUS family >from Paberze/Vilna. Anyway, although no SILBER names came
up, one of the entries on the list was :

SELIBER JOSEF 1899, Snipiskes, Lith. Hamelitz #223

I couldn't find a shtetl called Snipiskes listed in Lithuanian Jewish
Communities.

However, in the information we recently received >from the Vilnius Archives
there was a marriage record :

Vilna citizen Josel ben Lipman SHTEINGAUER, not married, 24 years old,
married Vilna citizen, Miss Chana-Michla bat Berko SNIPISHKER, 23 years old
on 26th January 1903 (Julien date?).

I am pretty certain Josel was the son of Lipman ben Yaacov Shteingauer b.
1850 Novy Gorod, Vilna, who was the youngest brother of my GGGM Bathsheva
(nee SHTEINGAUER/STEINHAUER LAPIDUS b.1841). We hadn't known about him or
his two brohers before we received the information >from Vilnius and
previously only knew about our GGGM and her three sisters.

Also some information we received regarding the 1942 Vilna Ghetto Lists
included Moshe SNIPISKIER B.1882 at the same address as Shmuel Shteingauer
B.1911. I think this information was actually >from Bleter Vegn Vilna
rather than the 1942 Ghetto List.

Although I have seen information >from the latest version of the 1942 Vilna
Ghetto List, this only applied to the LAPIDUS names, so I have not seen the
latest information relating to STEINHAUER names and I haven't seen
reference to this being online yet. What was very interesting about this
latest information is that it included occupations, which I haven't been
able to translate. What was also interesting about the LAPIDUS list was
the reference to the Kallis fur factory as our GGGGF Yankel Shteingauer was
definitely in the fur trade in Vilna. I will write a separate message to
the list about this.

Does anyone know anything about a shtetl called SNIPISKES or the name
SNIPISHKER/SNIPISKIER? Has anyone got any SILBER or possibly SELIBER names
from Vilna on their trees? We have some information about the SILBER
family in Paris which we definitely also know is connected somehow to our
STEINHAUER-LAPIDUS family.

Does anyone have lists of businesses/occupations for Vilna say prior to
1915 - I know our GGGGF was in the fur business, but do not know if he had
a shop or a factory or was a trader in fur.

Is the latest version of the 1942 Vilna Ghetto list available on line - I
do not have access to any other Jewish libraries/resources or LDS as I live
out in the bush? I am particularly interested in finding out about any
STEINHAUER and LAPIDUS and STUCER/STUTZER and ROSENBLATT and SILBER and
SNIPISKER names - the family of my late GGM Anna (Chana Steinhauer Lapidus)
Aronis/Pollack b. Vilna 1878 d. Melbourne 1955, and her slaughtered
sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews.......

Thank you.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho downunder
klb@...

SHTEINGOER/STEINGAUER/STEINHAUER Vilna/Canada/USA/South Africa
STEINHAUER-FOX/FINEBERG, STEINHAUER-DAROFF/DROZ descendants
Vilna/Canada/USA. LAPIDUS Vilna/Paberze, Libau, Paris.
JACOBOWITSCH/YAKERBOVICH (Russian Duma). SILBER Vilna?/Paris.
SNIPISHKER, Vilna. ARONIS/PALM Libau. LANDO/MORGUOULIES/MORGULIS Odessa.
STUCER/STUTZER Vilna, Grodno/Minsk, USA, frmr USSR.
ROSENBLATT/MORGULIS/MORGUILIES Vilna, Odessa, USA.
ZIPPER/WEISS/SCHILLER/STEINER/RECHT Vienna/Galicia/Czechoslovakia.
GOLD/FUCHS/CZILLAG/HERZOG Vienna/USA (DUNERA).
POLLACK/POLYAK FROMCHUK Vinnitza, Mogilev-Podylia, Odessa.


Searching: BINDER siblings of Camp Trupin (1950's) #general

warshall@...
 

For a friend without internet access, I am trying to track down a
brother and sister named Gary and Susan BINDER.

Gary was born about 1940, Susan a few years later. When
last recorded, in the 1950s, they were campers at Camp Trupin, a
Jewish summer camp run by a Westchester family.

Susan is presumably married, so current last name is uncertain.

Any leads would be much appreciated.

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester, MA


Re: Ilka/Isadore/Israel? #general

JJG613 <jjg613@...>
 

Harriet,

Does this ILKA come >from the same town or have any other information in the
manifest listing that would lead you to believe he is the same person other
than age and occupation?

I think you have enough for reasonable suspicion that it is, indeed, your gggf.
In my estimation the surname is not all too common and since some other
important criteria fit you may assume it is him.

However, until you get more solid proof you can only assume and not be certain.

The manifest often lists important things such as birthplace, place traveling
from, nearest living relative in place alien is traveling from, etc.

Do any of these things match other information you have?


Jonathan Goldmacher
JRI-Poland Project
Project Coordinator
PRZASNYSZ Shtetl CO-OP
New York, NY

Searching: GOLDMACHER, GOLDMAN, MAK, MALOWANCZYK >from Poland (Przasnysz,
Pultusk, Ciechanow, Nasielsk, Neistud, Mlawa, Sierpc, Serock, Warsaw)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: BINDER siblings of Camp Trupin (1950's) #general

warshall@...
 

For a friend without internet access, I am trying to track down a
brother and sister named Gary and Susan BINDER.

Gary was born about 1940, Susan a few years later. When
last recorded, in the 1950s, they were campers at Camp Trupin, a
Jewish summer camp run by a Westchester family.

Susan is presumably married, so current last name is uncertain.

Any leads would be much appreciated.

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ilka/Isadore/Israel? #general

JJG613 <jjg613@...>
 

Harriet,

Does this ILKA come >from the same town or have any other information in the
manifest listing that would lead you to believe he is the same person other
than age and occupation?

I think you have enough for reasonable suspicion that it is, indeed, your gggf.
In my estimation the surname is not all too common and since some other
important criteria fit you may assume it is him.

However, until you get more solid proof you can only assume and not be certain.

The manifest often lists important things such as birthplace, place traveling
from, nearest living relative in place alien is traveling from, etc.

Do any of these things match other information you have?


Jonathan Goldmacher
JRI-Poland Project
Project Coordinator
PRZASNYSZ Shtetl CO-OP
New York, NY

Searching: GOLDMACHER, GOLDMAN, MAK, MALOWANCZYK >from Poland (Przasnysz,
Pultusk, Ciechanow, Nasielsk, Neistud, Mlawa, Sierpc, Serock, Warsaw)


Where is Golloff in Poland? #general

BR1595@...
 

Does anyone know what the village of Golloff in Poland might be today and
where it is located? This seems to be the ancestral home of an out-of-town
Cleveland JGS member ..... found on an early family document. Haven't been
able to pinpoint it. Any suggestions?

Happy New Year greetings to one and all.

Arlene Rich
BR1595@...
Cleveland JGS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is Golloff in Poland? #general

BR1595@...
 

Does anyone know what the village of Golloff in Poland might be today and
where it is located? This seems to be the ancestral home of an out-of-town
Cleveland JGS member ..... found on an early family document. Haven't been
able to pinpoint it. Any suggestions?

Happy New Year greetings to one and all.

Arlene Rich
BR1595@...
Cleveland JGS


Searching: Abraham LEVY's siblings (London to New York, 1868?) #general

Rica Goldberg
 

As we all know, this genealogy research can become quite a soul destroyer;
but as we are told, we must keep trying. So here goes - I am trying once
again.

The Levy family I am dealing with is a New York one so perhaps someone out
there can help me, or better than that, maybe I will strike it lucky. And
this Levy family is a famous one too, as one of its members a certain Abraham
LEVY was a New York lawyer at the "turn of the century" who prosecuted in an
murder case. It was called The Nan Patterson Case and the film "A Girl on a
Red Velvet Swing" with Joan Collins is reputed to be loosely based on it.

Abraham Levy, born in London in May 1861 was taken to USA in about 1868/9 by
his parents with two older sisters Sarah & Becky and brother Israel born 1863
in London. I have found the present day descendants of Abraham and his
brother Israel. But Abraham had other siblings born in New York. Louis,
Benny, Harry, Mamie and Dora. Dora was born approximately 1878. I think that
Sarah and Becky each married a man by the name of BRINN and HARRIS (possibly
Jack HARRIS).

In approx 1875 Abraham aged nearly 14 and his siblings went to live in Rutgers
Place , N.Y. After trying and trying again and writing to the Law Society etc
in New York I eventually found his present-day descendant and eventually got
to meet her. She gave me the name of Israel's present-day descendant and after
a few years of corresponding I recently had a visit >from her in our home,
which was most enjoyable and we felt so very comfortable with her. However,
neither of these people know the present-day descendants of the other
siblings. Abraham died in 1920 and his obituary appeared in the New York
times in 1920 and it said he was 58 years old, so presumably he died sometime
between January and May 1920. Possibly his Will might give the name of his
married sisters if he left anything to them but for me to try to trace his
Will is extremely difficult as I live in Manchester England. Without it being
too presumptuous of me, is there anyone out there who could help me in this
matter?

Rica Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England

Researching: KAMINSKY (possibly KAMENSHCHIK) >from Yanova nr Kovno, Lithuania;
DIAMOND (possibly DIAMONT or DIMONT) >from Kovno, Lithuania;
COHEN - a glazier >from Poland; Chaim ESTRY >from Poland; GOLDBERG (possibly
Shloozitel) >from Kovno, Lithuania.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Abraham LEVY's siblings (London to New York, 1868?) #general

Rica Goldberg
 

As we all know, this genealogy research can become quite a soul destroyer;
but as we are told, we must keep trying. So here goes - I am trying once
again.

The Levy family I am dealing with is a New York one so perhaps someone out
there can help me, or better than that, maybe I will strike it lucky. And
this Levy family is a famous one too, as one of its members a certain Abraham
LEVY was a New York lawyer at the "turn of the century" who prosecuted in an
murder case. It was called The Nan Patterson Case and the film "A Girl on a
Red Velvet Swing" with Joan Collins is reputed to be loosely based on it.

Abraham Levy, born in London in May 1861 was taken to USA in about 1868/9 by
his parents with two older sisters Sarah & Becky and brother Israel born 1863
in London. I have found the present day descendants of Abraham and his
brother Israel. But Abraham had other siblings born in New York. Louis,
Benny, Harry, Mamie and Dora. Dora was born approximately 1878. I think that
Sarah and Becky each married a man by the name of BRINN and HARRIS (possibly
Jack HARRIS).

In approx 1875 Abraham aged nearly 14 and his siblings went to live in Rutgers
Place , N.Y. After trying and trying again and writing to the Law Society etc
in New York I eventually found his present-day descendant and eventually got
to meet her. She gave me the name of Israel's present-day descendant and after
a few years of corresponding I recently had a visit >from her in our home,
which was most enjoyable and we felt so very comfortable with her. However,
neither of these people know the present-day descendants of the other
siblings. Abraham died in 1920 and his obituary appeared in the New York
times in 1920 and it said he was 58 years old, so presumably he died sometime
between January and May 1920. Possibly his Will might give the name of his
married sisters if he left anything to them but for me to try to trace his
Will is extremely difficult as I live in Manchester England. Without it being
too presumptuous of me, is there anyone out there who could help me in this
matter?

Rica Goldberg (Mrs)
Manchester, England

Researching: KAMINSKY (possibly KAMENSHCHIK) >from Yanova nr Kovno, Lithuania;
DIAMOND (possibly DIAMONT or DIMONT) >from Kovno, Lithuania;
COHEN - a glazier >from Poland; Chaim ESTRY >from Poland; GOLDBERG (possibly
Shloozitel) >from Kovno, Lithuania.


Searching: KANEL and RITZ (Poland, Russia) #general

UZIDUZIT <uziduzit@...>
 

Please contact me directly if these names are familiar.

Thank you,
Jim BRUMBACH
TAVARES, FLORIDA
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: KANEL and RITZ (Poland, Russia) #general

UZIDUZIT <uziduzit@...>
 

Please contact me directly if these names are familiar.

Thank you,
Jim BRUMBACH
TAVARES, FLORIDA
USA


Searching: BRUSSEL family from Hamburg #general

micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

It is strange that we never got any news >from my husband's ggrandmother's
siblings, even on different databases as JGFF. She was Sabine BRUSSEL, born
Hamburg 1836. She married Moses GUTMANN. She was the daughter of Salomon
BRUSSEL and Louise HAGENOW.

Adolph, Henry, Joseph, James went to USA , New York. But also Cuba.
Johanna and Luis LOEFFLER's children went to Kansas City.
Now the name BRUSSEL disappeared quite completely because more girls than
boys married.
They can have the names DEITSCH, LICHSTENSTEIN, ROSSMAN, KOCH, LOGIN,
BIKET....
I hope we can hear >from some of them once !

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
http://www.sgip.fr/rdegroot/genami


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: BRUSSEL family from Hamburg #general

micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

It is strange that we never got any news >from my husband's ggrandmother's
siblings, even on different databases as JGFF. She was Sabine BRUSSEL, born
Hamburg 1836. She married Moses GUTMANN. She was the daughter of Salomon
BRUSSEL and Louise HAGENOW.

Adolph, Henry, Joseph, James went to USA , New York. But also Cuba.
Johanna and Luis LOEFFLER's children went to Kansas City.
Now the name BRUSSEL disappeared quite completely because more girls than
boys married.
They can have the names DEITSCH, LICHSTENSTEIN, ROSSMAN, KOCH, LOGIN,
BIKET....
I hope we can hear >from some of them once !

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
http://www.sgip.fr/rdegroot/genami


Searching family KRAUSZ, in Hungary in 1939 #general

micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Odette BAGNO was engaged in 1939 to Andre KRAUSZ .
He had prepared all the documents for their marriage.
But he was killed in France at the Marne battle in 1940.
Of course she could not be considered as a widow.
The family KRAUSZ (Hermann, Erzebeth and children) was living
in Nyiregyhaza, Hungary in 1939 except two brothers : Andre who
was killed in 1940, and another brother, Zoltan, was a sailor on
an English boat called "The KELET" .
He was interned as a war prisonner in Ottawa at the beginning of the war.

Then she knew that he tried to find her in 1942 but she did not want
to give her address to the Red Cross. After the war, she could not find
him anymore.

Now a pensioner, she is trying to find Zoltan KRAUSZ more than ever.
Eventually other members of the family if they escaped >from the Shoa.

Please, try to help her. Thank you !

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
http: //www.sgip.fr/rdegroot/genami


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching family KRAUSZ, in Hungary in 1939 #general

micheline Gutmann <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Odette BAGNO was engaged in 1939 to Andre KRAUSZ .
He had prepared all the documents for their marriage.
But he was killed in France at the Marne battle in 1940.
Of course she could not be considered as a widow.
The family KRAUSZ (Hermann, Erzebeth and children) was living
in Nyiregyhaza, Hungary in 1939 except two brothers : Andre who
was killed in 1940, and another brother, Zoltan, was a sailor on
an English boat called "The KELET" .
He was interned as a war prisonner in Ottawa at the beginning of the war.

Then she knew that he tried to find her in 1942 but she did not want
to give her address to the Red Cross. After the war, she could not find
him anymore.

Now a pensioner, she is trying to find Zoltan KRAUSZ more than ever.
Eventually other members of the family if they escaped >from the Shoa.

Please, try to help her. Thank you !

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France
http: //www.sgip.fr/rdegroot/genami


Re: Sima=sister?? #general

Mike Lipsie <Mike_Lipsie@...>
 

MBernet@... wrote:

As we have discussed here at length, it is not unlikely that a
woman--or a man--had two personal names and used them interchangably.
Is this a "recent" or "new world" phenomenon?

I ask because my grandfather, his wife, and all of his children had two names
(Charles Benjamin, Henry Isaac, Ruth Pescha, ...) but everything I have found
on my great grandfather only shows one name (Simon). This seems to be true
for both the Hebrew and "American" names.

Thanks for any enlightenment.

Mike Lipsie

MODERATOR NOTE: Have you read FAQ #17 on Jewish names on
our web site?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sima=sister?? #general

Mike Lipsie <Mike_Lipsie@...>
 

MBernet@... wrote:

As we have discussed here at length, it is not unlikely that a
woman--or a man--had two personal names and used them interchangably.
Is this a "recent" or "new world" phenomenon?

I ask because my grandfather, his wife, and all of his children had two names
(Charles Benjamin, Henry Isaac, Ruth Pescha, ...) but everything I have found
on my great grandfather only shows one name (Simon). This seems to be true
for both the Hebrew and "American" names.

Thanks for any enlightenment.

Mike Lipsie

MODERATOR NOTE: Have you read FAQ #17 on Jewish names on
our web site?