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Re: city directories, what they are, what they aren't #general

SBSeales
 

Does anyone know if the New Jersey censuses are available through
interlibrary loan to anyone living in another state?
Sue Seales sbseales@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: city directories, what they are, what they aren't #general

SBSeales
 

Does anyone know if the New Jersey censuses are available through
interlibrary loan to anyone living in another state?
Sue Seales sbseales@...


Seeking LORSCH family of Chicago #general

ERNKAUF@...
 

I am seeking any one >from the family of the late Berhard Lorsch(Formerly of
Ortenberg, Germany)

Ernest Kaufman
ERNKAUF@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking LORSCH family of Chicago #general

ERNKAUF@...
 

I am seeking any one >from the family of the late Berhard Lorsch(Formerly of
Ortenberg, Germany)

Ernest Kaufman
ERNKAUF@...


Searching for Poland Family. #general

Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners, * Kindly assist *

Searching for Poland Family * (On behalf of Friend who is not Email
connected)*.
Searching for: KAUTZ >from Stara Gorka and Wola Rakowa.
FRANZ >from Wola Rakowa.
HOFFMANN >from Kowalczyzna(e) and Lodz.
FAFLIK >from Prague (Czech) and Lodz.

Family Chart Available On Request.

Thank you in advance.

Ernie Durra. ( On behalf of Mrs. C. Schonfeld )
Cape Town. South Africa.
Tel / Fax: +27 21 434-5564.
Email: meldrum@... *(Shall be forwarded to Mrs. C. Schonfeld)*.

MODERATOR NOTE: Perhaps you could take your kindness a little further....
Enter the surnames in the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) It is one of our
most heavily visited sites. Other people researching the same names will
be able to see it in future searches.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Poland Family. #general

Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Dear Jewish Genners, * Kindly assist *

Searching for Poland Family * (On behalf of Friend who is not Email
connected)*.
Searching for: KAUTZ >from Stara Gorka and Wola Rakowa.
FRANZ >from Wola Rakowa.
HOFFMANN >from Kowalczyzna(e) and Lodz.
FAFLIK >from Prague (Czech) and Lodz.

Family Chart Available On Request.

Thank you in advance.

Ernie Durra. ( On behalf of Mrs. C. Schonfeld )
Cape Town. South Africa.
Tel / Fax: +27 21 434-5564.
Email: meldrum@... *(Shall be forwarded to Mrs. C. Schonfeld)*.

MODERATOR NOTE: Perhaps you could take your kindness a little further....
Enter the surnames in the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) It is one of our
most heavily visited sites. Other people researching the same names will
be able to see it in future searches.


TMG - Timelines #latvia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

I am using The Master Genealogist (TMG) for my research, and I have just
begun to make a "Timelines"-file specifically listing historical events
concerning Jewish history.

Primarily I focus on the events in Russia and Poland which led up to the
emigration at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th
Century, as that is the most important topic for me in my research at the
present.

However, I plan to expand this "Timelines"-file so that it covers all the
persons in my research. It will take time, of course. But as the
"Timelines"-file develops I will make it available to others in some way
(Maybe downloadable >from www.JewishGen.org? Or just sent it to those who
ask for it?

I suppose that such "Timelines" would also be of interest for other
JewishGenners - even if using other programs.

I therefore thought that we might help each other in creating such a
"Timelines"-file.

The file used by TMG is a DBase-file, but that is of no importance, it
could be any database-program as long as it has the option of a Memo-field.
It could also be a structured textfile. In all cases the file could be
converted to the DBase-file used by TMG, or it could be converted so some
other format used my other genealogy-programs.

The database-file should consist of four fields:

Year
Month
Date
Memo-field for text.

A text-file could be structured correspondingly with one line for each
field and a marker for end of the entry. Or it could be structured as a
delimited textfile with e.g. "," between the fields and a new line for each
entry:
Example:
"Year","Month","Date","Text .........end of text"
"Year"," "," ","Text .........end of text"
Empty fields = " "

As I see it there are two possible methods of cooperation:

1.
We can work on each our set of timelines and share it with each other every
month or so.

2.
Someone could collect single pieces of information (e.g. sent by e-mail)
and enter it in the database, and at intervals send the database to those
participating in the project (and others). (I'll be willing to do that).

3.
We can just enter all and every historic detail we encounter, or we can
split up into groups focusing on specific areas.


Let me hear if ane of you is interested in this
and any suggestions will be most welcome.

Best regards


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia TMG - Timelines #latvia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

I am using The Master Genealogist (TMG) for my research, and I have just
begun to make a "Timelines"-file specifically listing historical events
concerning Jewish history.

Primarily I focus on the events in Russia and Poland which led up to the
emigration at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th
Century, as that is the most important topic for me in my research at the
present.

However, I plan to expand this "Timelines"-file so that it covers all the
persons in my research. It will take time, of course. But as the
"Timelines"-file develops I will make it available to others in some way
(Maybe downloadable >from www.JewishGen.org? Or just sent it to those who
ask for it?

I suppose that such "Timelines" would also be of interest for other
JewishGenners - even if using other programs.

I therefore thought that we might help each other in creating such a
"Timelines"-file.

The file used by TMG is a DBase-file, but that is of no importance, it
could be any database-program as long as it has the option of a Memo-field.
It could also be a structured textfile. In all cases the file could be
converted to the DBase-file used by TMG, or it could be converted so some
other format used my other genealogy-programs.

The database-file should consist of four fields:

Year
Month
Date
Memo-field for text.

A text-file could be structured correspondingly with one line for each
field and a marker for end of the entry. Or it could be structured as a
delimited textfile with e.g. "," between the fields and a new line for each
entry:
Example:
"Year","Month","Date","Text .........end of text"
"Year"," "," ","Text .........end of text"
Empty fields = " "

As I see it there are two possible methods of cooperation:

1.
We can work on each our set of timelines and share it with each other every
month or so.

2.
Someone could collect single pieces of information (e.g. sent by e-mail)
and enter it in the database, and at intervals send the database to those
participating in the project (and others). (I'll be willing to do that).

3.
We can just enter all and every historic detail we encounter, or we can
split up into groups focusing on specific areas.


Let me hear if ane of you is interested in this
and any suggestions will be most welcome.

Best regards


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@...


B'R abbreviation #general

Asher Bar-Zev <bar-zev@...>
 

Mike:

B"R or bet resh usually stands for b'reb which is an abbreviation for ben
reb or "son of mister". The term reb is not to be confused with rav or
rabbi. It's a modest honorific.

Asher Bar-Zev

Researching:

LANGENAUER - Turka,or Zidachov,or Jaroslav,or Rybnik (Ukraine form.Galicia
REITER - Turka (Ukraine, formerly Galicia)
HERZOG - Turka (Ukraine, formerly Galicia)
KAMMERMANN - Borislav (Ukraine, formerly Galicia)
WEISSBLUM - Galicia
GEWIRTZMAN - Sieniawa, or Cieszanow (Poland, formerly Galicia), or Vienna


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen B'R abbreviation #general

Asher Bar-Zev <bar-zev@...>
 

Mike:

B"R or bet resh usually stands for b'reb which is an abbreviation for ben
reb or "son of mister". The term reb is not to be confused with rav or
rabbi. It's a modest honorific.

Asher Bar-Zev

Researching:

LANGENAUER - Turka,or Zidachov,or Jaroslav,or Rybnik (Ukraine form.Galicia
REITER - Turka (Ukraine, formerly Galicia)
HERZOG - Turka (Ukraine, formerly Galicia)
KAMMERMANN - Borislav (Ukraine, formerly Galicia)
WEISSBLUM - Galicia
GEWIRTZMAN - Sieniawa, or Cieszanow (Poland, formerly Galicia), or Vienna


Der Israelit Newspaper #general

Claude M. Oulman <oulman@...>
 

from 1860 to 1938 "Der Israelit" was published in Frankfurt. I understand
it was a major newspaper for observant Jews. Does anyone out there in
JGland know if there is a US library housing this publication? Of course, I
am hoping for a fully indexed set of papers!

Help please.

Claude M. Oulman
Butte, Montana


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Der Israelit Newspaper #general

Claude M. Oulman <oulman@...>
 

from 1860 to 1938 "Der Israelit" was published in Frankfurt. I understand
it was a major newspaper for observant Jews. Does anyone out there in
JGland know if there is a US library housing this publication? Of course, I
am hoping for a fully indexed set of papers!

Help please.

Claude M. Oulman
Butte, Montana


Reply: Children saved from WWII by going to England #general

GJONESHOME@...
 

Edward Rosenbaum wrote:

During WWII, some German Jewish children were saved by being sent to
England and being adopted there. Can anyone tell me if (1) the Jewish
children >from Poland may have been involved in such a plan, and (2) if
there is an organization that can be contacted regarding the possible
whereabouts of these children.
I do not know if this pertains to the children you are looking for but there
is a book about 732 children coming to England after the war. They were
Polish and Hungarian.

The book is "The Boys" Triumph over Adversity" by Martin Gilbert. The Story
of 732 Young Concentration Camp survivors.

ISDN 0-75380-032-2. It is 7.99 pounds sterling in the U.K.


For more details please Email me directly.

SEARCHING FOR:
Leo BLOCH: NYC NY Born June 14, 1879 Died: Jan 20, 1914
Pauline LEVI (BLOCH) Died Nov 21, 1920
Simon BLOCH Born Bohemia Germany 1848


Gary R. Jones <gjoneshome@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reply: Children saved from WWII by going to England #general

GJONESHOME@...
 

Edward Rosenbaum wrote:

During WWII, some German Jewish children were saved by being sent to
England and being adopted there. Can anyone tell me if (1) the Jewish
children >from Poland may have been involved in such a plan, and (2) if
there is an organization that can be contacted regarding the possible
whereabouts of these children.
I do not know if this pertains to the children you are looking for but there
is a book about 732 children coming to England after the war. They were
Polish and Hungarian.

The book is "The Boys" Triumph over Adversity" by Martin Gilbert. The Story
of 732 Young Concentration Camp survivors.

ISDN 0-75380-032-2. It is 7.99 pounds sterling in the U.K.


For more details please Email me directly.

SEARCHING FOR:
Leo BLOCH: NYC NY Born June 14, 1879 Died: Jan 20, 1914
Pauline LEVI (BLOCH) Died Nov 21, 1920
Simon BLOCH Born Bohemia Germany 1848


Gary R. Jones <gjoneshome@...>


Re London directories #general

David Fielker <david@...>
 

London Post Office directories, or other similar ones, are not like US city
directories. They either give lists of streets, as Joseph T. Zamrin
discovered, or they will list trades under surnames if the person had his
own business.

If your ancestors did not have their own businesses, then I can only think
of two ways to find an address ini order to look up a census record.

One is to find a naturalisation record, which of course will only exist if
the person was naturalised. Naturalisations are indexed at the Public
Record Office at Kew, and the background papers often list current and
former addresses.

The other way is if a vital event occurred around the time of the census.
Birth and marriage certificates give addresses of the parties concerned,
and death certificates give the address where the deceased died, as well as
that of the informant, who was usually a relative.

David Fielker
London, UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re London directories #general

David Fielker <david@...>
 

London Post Office directories, or other similar ones, are not like US city
directories. They either give lists of streets, as Joseph T. Zamrin
discovered, or they will list trades under surnames if the person had his
own business.

If your ancestors did not have their own businesses, then I can only think
of two ways to find an address ini order to look up a census record.

One is to find a naturalisation record, which of course will only exist if
the person was naturalised. Naturalisations are indexed at the Public
Record Office at Kew, and the background papers often list current and
former addresses.

The other way is if a vital event occurred around the time of the census.
Birth and marriage certificates give addresses of the parties concerned,
and death certificates give the address where the deceased died, as well as
that of the informant, who was usually a relative.

David Fielker
London, UK


Surnames based on place names #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Michael Bernet <MBernet@...> wrote:

==It is very useful, too, to explore family names. Often it
will be a clue in which past of Europe to seek for the earliest
ancestors (but they probably won't have that name in the town
of origin--a Jew has no reason to be called Konigshofer when he
lives in Konigshof or Konigshofen--but when he moves to another
town, that's when that surname sticks to him).
This is not always true. In 90% of the towns for which I have
extracted the earliest Jewish vital records (Kingdom of Poland,
1808-1825 -- the period during which Jewish surnames were first
used there), there is always at least one family that adopts
the name of the town. There's the SOBKOWSKI family in Sobkow,
the LOSICE family in Losice, the GRAJEWSKI family in Grajewo,
the LOZDZIEYSKI family in Lozdzieje, the KRUSZKIEWICZ family
in the village of Krusza, the KOLENSKI family in Kolno, the
MORDSKI family in Mordy, the RADZILOWSKI family in Radzilow,
etc., etc.

All of these surnames were present in the specified towns
beginning in the early 1820s, which is where these people
were residing at the time that Jewish surnames were first
assigned in the Kingdom of Poland (Russian Poland) --
October 1821.

For full copies of the extracts >from these towns, see
back issues of "Landsmen" (Quarterly Publication of the
Suwalk-Lomza Interest Group for Jewish Genealogists)
<http://www.jewishgen.org/SuwalkLomza>, and the
"Kielce-Radom SIG Journal", <http://www.jewishgen.org/krsig>.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnames based on place names #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Michael Bernet <MBernet@...> wrote:

==It is very useful, too, to explore family names. Often it
will be a clue in which past of Europe to seek for the earliest
ancestors (but they probably won't have that name in the town
of origin--a Jew has no reason to be called Konigshofer when he
lives in Konigshof or Konigshofen--but when he moves to another
town, that's when that surname sticks to him).
This is not always true. In 90% of the towns for which I have
extracted the earliest Jewish vital records (Kingdom of Poland,
1808-1825 -- the period during which Jewish surnames were first
used there), there is always at least one family that adopts
the name of the town. There's the SOBKOWSKI family in Sobkow,
the LOSICE family in Losice, the GRAJEWSKI family in Grajewo,
the LOZDZIEYSKI family in Lozdzieje, the KRUSZKIEWICZ family
in the village of Krusza, the KOLENSKI family in Kolno, the
MORDSKI family in Mordy, the RADZILOWSKI family in Radzilow,
etc., etc.

All of these surnames were present in the specified towns
beginning in the early 1820s, which is where these people
were residing at the time that Jewish surnames were first
assigned in the Kingdom of Poland (Russian Poland) --
October 1821.

For full copies of the extracts >from these towns, see
back issues of "Landsmen" (Quarterly Publication of the
Suwalk-Lomza Interest Group for Jewish Genealogists)
<http://www.jewishgen.org/SuwalkLomza>, and the
"Kielce-Radom SIG Journal", <http://www.jewishgen.org/krsig>.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@...>


Sephardic roots #general

beth wellington <bjwellington@...>
 

Although now named Wellington, family history has it that my father's
grandfather's birth name was somthing like DeAveros (perhaps
DaAveiros?). One legend was that we were somehow descended >from the
Moorish philosopher, AVEROS. Someone told my father this is false;
the name reflects origin >from a Portuguese town. The database reveals
no hints, except in the "sounds like" mode, which relates the name to
DeVries among others.

Help! Anyone out there know anything?

Also, in our neck of Appalachia, the Melungeons are thought possible
to be descended >from Portuguese Jews >from Barbados, with English names
like Atkins, Coles and Sizemore, who somehow migrated to the mountains.

Anybody who can enlighten me on either topic please contact me.

Many thanks!

Beth


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sephardic roots #general

beth wellington <bjwellington@...>
 

Although now named Wellington, family history has it that my father's
grandfather's birth name was somthing like DeAveros (perhaps
DaAveiros?). One legend was that we were somehow descended >from the
Moorish philosopher, AVEROS. Someone told my father this is false;
the name reflects origin >from a Portuguese town. The database reveals
no hints, except in the "sounds like" mode, which relates the name to
DeVries among others.

Help! Anyone out there know anything?

Also, in our neck of Appalachia, the Melungeons are thought possible
to be descended >from Portuguese Jews >from Barbados, with English names
like Atkins, Coles and Sizemore, who somehow migrated to the mountains.

Anybody who can enlighten me on either topic please contact me.

Many thanks!

Beth