Searching info about or descendants of Lieb SCHECHNER and Pifa BRANA from
Burakuvka (or Buryakovka), Galicia who married in the mid 1800s. Their
children, all born in the same village, included Munisch (b. about 1855),
Selig (b. about 1868), Etta and Mirka who married a man named Yussel
FISHOFF.

Munisch married Leah ROSENBAUM and emigrated to the Bronx, NY in the early
1900 with their children Harry, Sadie, Fannie, Annie, Morris and Betty
SCHECHNER. The two boys became grocers and all the girls except Betty were
married to grocers.

Lieb and Pifa's daughter Etta SCHECHNER married a man named Josef GREENSPAN
in Burakuvka. About 1914 their daughter Sarah married Pinchas EISNER whose
descendants Lieb and Selig (Leon and Stanley) emigrated about 1949 to
Toronto where they still reside.

Does this village or these names ring any bells for anyone?

Dena Abrams
Merrick NY
<dabrams1@nassau.cv.net>

This is my first posting and I have just started my geneology search. The
inscription on my grandmother's tombstone, in Hebrew, in Los Angeles 1937,
refers to her father as "Rav." My Israeli son-in-law tells me that the
inscription is very traditional and "Rav" may be an honorary title and not
mean that he was a Rabbi. Could someone comment on this? Also where
could I best research this? I have no living relatives in my parents'
generation or older generation that I know of.

Thank you

Helen Saltman
researching: SALTZBERG, BERNHOLTZ, Warsaw, Poland
BERGMAN, New York, Malmo, Sweden
GEMMER, New Jersey
SMIGELSKY, Poland
SALTMAN/SALTZHANDLER, Krishopol
GKEPER, Odessa

In the Canadian Jewish News there appeared recently a letter by a lady who
visited the grave of Captain Alfred Dreyfus in the Montparnass cemetery in
Paris. She writes as follows:

“As I read the inscription, I couldn’t help but notice an added
inscription:
A La Memoire de Madelaine Levy, Deportee par les Allemands, Disparue a
Auschwitz A L’age de 25 ans. I was immediately touched by the ironies of
life. Alfred Dreyfus who suffered such indignities >from anti-Semitism in
the late 1800s lost a loved one in Auschwitz years later. I wondered who
she was, a granddaughter perhaps?”

Does anyone of our French experts have the answer to this one?
Henry Wellisch
Toronto

Looking for relatives still alive - KNOPFLER >from around Abony ( Hungary),
FARKAS ( Endre, Roszi - Budapest). If you have any information - please
email me - Thank you

Peter T. Knoepfler

Thanks for the info. Should be very useful.

Lewis Faber

Searching info about or descendants of Lieb SCHECHNER and Pifa BRANA from
Burakuvka (or Buryakovka), Galicia who married in the mid 1800s. Their
children, all born in the same village, included Munisch (b. about 1855),
Selig (b. about 1868), Etta and Mirka who married a man named Yussel
FISHOFF.

Munisch married Leah ROSENBAUM and emigrated to the Bronx, NY in the early
1900 with their children Harry, Sadie, Fannie, Annie, Morris and Betty
SCHECHNER. The two boys became grocers and all the girls except Betty were
married to grocers.

Lieb and Pifa's daughter Etta SCHECHNER married a man named Josef GREENSPAN
in Burakuvka. About 1914 their daughter Sarah married Pinchas EISNER whose
descendants Lieb and Selig (Leon and Stanley) emigrated about 1949 to
Toronto where they still reside.

Does this village or these names ring any bells for anyone?

Dena Abrams
Merrick NY
<dabrams1@nassau.cv.net>

This is my first posting and I have just started my geneology search. The
inscription on my grandmother's tombstone, in Hebrew, in Los Angeles 1937,
refers to her father as "Rav." My Israeli son-in-law tells me that the
inscription is very traditional and "Rav" may be an honorary title and not
mean that he was a Rabbi. Could someone comment on this? Also where
could I best research this? I have no living relatives in my parents'
generation or older generation that I know of.

Thank you

Helen Saltman
researching: SALTZBERG, BERNHOLTZ, Warsaw, Poland
BERGMAN, New York, Malmo, Sweden
GEMMER, New Jersey
SMIGELSKY, Poland
SALTMAN/SALTZHANDLER, Krishopol
GKEPER, Odessa

In the Canadian Jewish News there appeared recently a letter by a lady who
visited the grave of Captain Alfred Dreyfus in the Montparnass cemetery in
Paris. She writes as follows:

“As I read the inscription, I couldn’t help but notice an added
inscription:
A La Memoire de Madelaine Levy, Deportee par les Allemands, Disparue a
Auschwitz A L’age de 25 ans. I was immediately touched by the ironies of
life. Alfred Dreyfus who suffered such indignities >from anti-Semitism in
the late 1800s lost a loved one in Auschwitz years later. I wondered who
she was, a granddaughter perhaps?”

Does anyone of our French experts have the answer to this one?
Henry Wellisch
Toronto

Looking for relatives still alive - KNOPFLER >from around Abony ( Hungary),
FARKAS ( Endre, Roszi - Budapest). If you have any information - please
email me - Thank you

Peter T. Knoepfler

Thanks for the info. Should be very useful.

Lewis Faber

Searching for descendants of my great grandfather, Samuel TOBIAS, and his
FIRST wife (name unknown):

Eva TOBIAS, born in 1892 in Bucharest, Romania. Immigrated to NYC in early
1900s and married a man whose last name was GOLDFARB.

Isidore TOBIAS, born in 1895 in Bucharest, Romania. Immigrated to NYC in
early 1900s and married a woman whose first name was Blanche.

Joseph TOBIAS, born sometime in the 1890s in either Bucharest or NYC.
Married a woman whose first name was Bertha.

I've checked the Social Security Death Index, but since the surname is a
rather common one and I don't know which state they lived in or when they
died, I'm unable to pinpoint a possible match.

If anyone recognizes these names, or has any tips on how to locate
descendants, I'd be most grateful. Thanks in advance.

Deborah Peskin
Longmeadow, MA
dx2etc@msn.com

RESEARCHING: BEHRENZWEIG/BERINZVEIG/BERENZWEIG/BERNZWEIG--Galicia & NYC;
GELMAN/GILMAN--Ternopol, Galicia & NYC; GOLDBERG--Ternopol, Galicia;
GRASSE--Bazilianai/Shavli, Lithuania & Palestine, KESSNER/KUSHNER--Riga,
Lativa & NYC; MILLER/MULLER--Nemirov, Galicia & NYC;
TAHLER/THALER--Brzezany, Galicia & NYC; TOBIAS--Bucharest, Romania & NYC

If you are a descendant of these people you can request vital records
from:

Senatsverwaltung f|r Inneres
I C 506
Fehrbelliner Platz 1
10702 Berlin
Germany

They will reply with a request to pay DEM 35.00 for the search. If the
search is successful you will have to pay an additional DEM 12.00 to
obtain the record.

At my homepage, http://www.inter.nl.net/users/DJGH, you will find a
standard letter in German.

Regards,

Stefan

Joan C. Brown wrote:

Searching for descendants of my great grandfather, Samuel TOBIAS, and his
FIRST wife (name unknown):

Eva TOBIAS, born in 1892 in Bucharest, Romania. Immigrated to NYC in early
1900s and married a man whose last name was GOLDFARB.

Isidore TOBIAS, born in 1895 in Bucharest, Romania. Immigrated to NYC in
early 1900s and married a woman whose first name was Blanche.

Joseph TOBIAS, born sometime in the 1890s in either Bucharest or NYC.
Married a woman whose first name was Bertha.

I've checked the Social Security Death Index, but since the surname is a
rather common one and I don't know which state they lived in or when they
died, I'm unable to pinpoint a possible match.

If anyone recognizes these names, or has any tips on how to locate
descendants, I'd be most grateful. Thanks in advance.

Deborah Peskin
Longmeadow, MA
dx2etc@msn.com

RESEARCHING: BEHRENZWEIG/BERINZVEIG/BERENZWEIG/BERNZWEIG--Galicia & NYC;
GELMAN/GILMAN--Ternopol, Galicia & NYC; GOLDBERG--Ternopol, Galicia;
GRASSE--Bazilianai/Shavli, Lithuania & Palestine, KESSNER/KUSHNER--Riga,
Lativa & NYC; MILLER/MULLER--Nemirov, Galicia & NYC;
TAHLER/THALER--Brzezany, Galicia & NYC; TOBIAS--Bucharest, Romania & NYC

If you are a descendant of these people you can request vital records
from:

Senatsverwaltung f|r Inneres
I C 506
Fehrbelliner Platz 1
10702 Berlin
Germany

They will reply with a request to pay DEM 35.00 for the search. If the
search is successful you will have to pay an additional DEM 12.00 to
obtain the record.

At my homepage, http://www.inter.nl.net/users/DJGH, you will find a
standard letter in German.

Regards,

Stefan

Joan C. Brown wrote:

Has anyone done successful searches for information on birth relatives
when one has been adopted and raised in a different religion than
Jewish?
I have a friend who was adopted, but *feels* Jewish and is searching.
Suggestions?

Thanks,
Dorothy Kohanski
Laguna Hills, CA

Has anyone done successful searches for information on birth relatives
when one has been adopted and raised in a different religion than
Jewish?
I have a friend who was adopted, but *feels* Jewish and is searching.
Suggestions?

Thanks,
Dorothy Kohanski
Laguna Hills, CA

For those of you who can locate family members through the Poor Jews'
Temporary Shelter Database (PJTS), the name of the ship the passenger
left England on is given and the date. With this information, you
will be able to locate the ships's manifest at KEW. However, the
information available to you once you obtain the manifest may be
minimal for the following reasons:

o The names of the passengers usually contain either an initial or an
abbreviation. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez or Mr. C. Zadekowitz.
This can be quite frustrating as is the case of Mrs. Ch. Chorez as
you do not know if the abbreviation "Ch." refers to her first name
which may be Chaya or her husband's first name which may be Chaim.

o The port the passenger is going to such as Algoa Bay, Cape Town,
East London, Natal, etc., is given, but not who they are going to.

The good news is that the following information is provided on the
passenger manifests:

o The name of the ship, its master, tonnage, footage, number of
adult passengers, country where bound, number of voyage days and date
of departure. This can be quite enlightening as the "Arundel Castle"
took sixty-five days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape
Town, South Africa, in 1896, while the "Briton" took only forty-five
days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape Town, South Africa,
in 1902.

o In addition to the data specific to the ship, there is data
relating to the passengers such as: the port of departure, name of
passenger, profession of passenger (cabinetmaker, carpenter,
contractor, cigarette maker, clerk, cooper, dealer, merchant,
milliner, miner, saddler, storekeeper, tailor, etc.), age of
passenger divided by whether they were English, Scotch, Irish or
Foreigners and then further divided by whether they were married or
single and then whether they were adults (age 12 years or older)
children (between ages 1 and 12 years) or infants (under one years of
age), and the port at which the passengers have contracted to land.

o You may be able to determine who traveled with the passenger and
what ship they came to England on. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez
came with a number of others on the Danish registered ship "Perm"

from Libau. At present, there are no known records of the ship's

manifests >from the "Perm" and other ships that departed >from ports
such as Libau and came to England.

On the ship's manifest, all "Perm" passengers were bracketted. Among
the "Perm" passengers were several who were known to have come >from
the same town (Kupishok) along with Mrs. Ch. Chorez. Another example
is Mr. C. Zadekowitz who was bracketted with six other men listed as
miners. Several of the men were >from families who came >from the same
town (Kupishok) as well.

In addition, you may find discrepancies between what was noted on the
Poor Jews' Temporary Shelter (PJTS) Database and the ship's manifest.
For instance, Mr. C. Zadekowitz was listed as a merchant on the PJTS
and was listed as a miner on the ship's manifest along with six other
men.

The ship's manifests are therefore very intriguing and can raise
quite a few more questions than answers for the researcher. For
those who do not have access to KEW, you can utilize a qualified
marine researcher such as Debby Beavis, who can fill in the bare
bones of the manifest with info on the specific ship or oddities on
the manifest.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com

For those of you who can locate family members through the Poor Jews'
Temporary Shelter Database (PJTS), the name of the ship the passenger
left England on is given and the date. With this information, you
will be able to locate the ships's manifest at KEW. However, the
information available to you once you obtain the manifest may be
minimal for the following reasons:

o The names of the passengers usually contain either an initial or an
abbreviation. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez or Mr. C. Zadekowitz.
This can be quite frustrating as is the case of Mrs. Ch. Chorez as
you do not know if the abbreviation "Ch." refers to her first name
which may be Chaya or her husband's first name which may be Chaim.

o The port the passenger is going to such as Algoa Bay, Cape Town,
East London, Natal, etc., is given, but not who they are going to.

The good news is that the following information is provided on the
passenger manifests:

o The name of the ship, its master, tonnage, footage, number of
adult passengers, country where bound, number of voyage days and date
of departure. This can be quite enlightening as the "Arundel Castle"
took sixty-five days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape
Town, South Africa, in 1896, while the "Briton" took only forty-five
days to travel >from Southampton, England, to Cape Town, South Africa,
in 1902.

o In addition to the data specific to the ship, there is data
relating to the passengers such as: the port of departure, name of
passenger, profession of passenger (cabinetmaker, carpenter,
contractor, cigarette maker, clerk, cooper, dealer, merchant,
milliner, miner, saddler, storekeeper, tailor, etc.), age of
passenger divided by whether they were English, Scotch, Irish or
Foreigners and then further divided by whether they were married or
single and then whether they were adults (age 12 years or older)
children (between ages 1 and 12 years) or infants (under one years of
age), and the port at which the passengers have contracted to land.

o You may be able to determine who traveled with the passenger and
what ship they came to England on. For instance, Mrs. Ch. Chorez
came with a number of others on the Danish registered ship "Perm"

from Libau. At present, there are no known records of the ship's

manifests >from the "Perm" and other ships that departed >from ports
such as Libau and came to England.

On the ship's manifest, all "Perm" passengers were bracketted. Among
the "Perm" passengers were several who were known to have come >from
the same town (Kupishok) along with Mrs. Ch. Chorez. Another example
is Mr. C. Zadekowitz who was bracketted with six other men listed as
miners. Several of the men were >from families who came >from the same
town (Kupishok) as well.

In addition, you may find discrepancies between what was noted on the
Poor Jews' Temporary Shelter (PJTS) Database and the ship's manifest.
For instance, Mr. C. Zadekowitz was listed as a merchant on the PJTS
and was listed as a miner on the ship's manifest along with six other
men.

The ship's manifests are therefore very intriguing and can raise
quite a few more questions than answers for the researcher. For
those who do not have access to KEW, you can utilize a qualified
marine researcher such as Debby Beavis, who can fill in the bare
bones of the manifest with info on the specific ship or oddities on
the manifest.

Ann Rabinowitz
pqua32a@prodigy.com

I'm looking for info on SCHUDSON >from Riga. It's my husband's last name and as
far as I can determine, his family in the US are the only SCHUDSONs on the
planet!

Also looking for any info on Phillip (?) LEIBOVITZ, possibly >from Romania.

Thanks! Sue

I'm looking for info on SCHUDSON >from Riga. It's my husband's last name and as
far as I can determine, his family in the US are the only SCHUDSONs on the
planet!

Also looking for any info on Phillip (?) LEIBOVITZ, possibly >from Romania.

Thanks! Sue