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Re: SEIDENBERG Date #general

JoanSGross@...
 

I just received an inquiry >from "FredHalf@alumni.stanfoed.org" about my
Seidenberg Family research. I reponded to his inquiry by clicking the "reply"
button but my response was bounced back. Fred, if you're reading this get in
touch with me or if you know who "FredHalf" is, tell him I have information
for him.

Joan S. Gross

joansgross@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SEIDENBERG Date #general

JoanSGross@...
 

I just received an inquiry >from "FredHalf@alumni.stanfoed.org" about my
Seidenberg Family research. I reponded to his inquiry by clicking the "reply"
button but my response was bounced back. Fred, if you're reading this get in
touch with me or if you know who "FredHalf" is, tell him I have information
for him.

Joan S. Gross

joansgross@aol.com


Rheim Anshe Hurdock #general

Sherribob@...
 

Can anyone comment on the landsmanshaftn named Rheim Anshe Hurdock? Meaning
"friends of the people of Hurdock".

The family that belonged to this society is supposed to be >from Bialystok, but
I have been unable to document that due to the surname being changed more than
once, and the fact that they were early immigrants.

Thank you for any information on this society, or information on a town known
as Hurdock.

Sherri Bobish


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rheim Anshe Hurdock #general

Sherribob@...
 

Can anyone comment on the landsmanshaftn named Rheim Anshe Hurdock? Meaning
"friends of the people of Hurdock".

The family that belonged to this society is supposed to be >from Bialystok, but
I have been unable to document that due to the surname being changed more than
once, and the fact that they were early immigrants.

Thank you for any information on this society, or information on a town known
as Hurdock.

Sherri Bobish


GERSHONOVITZ, Feygel and family #general

KKirshner@...
 

A dear long-time family friend and neighbor just opened up to me a little bit
about her Greenberg-Sleyzing (Germany) Concentration Camp experience and the
long death march she took and escaped >from as a teen. She was >from Southern
Poland at the time of WWII and her mother's maiden name (and her name in the
camp) was GERSHONOVITZ, even though her true maiden name was ROSENBERG. Upon
surviving the war, she desperately tried to find her maternal aunt Feygel
GERSHONOVITZ who was living in England and who was married with two daughters.
She did not remember or know her aunt's married name and could not find her.
She wants to know what ever became of her and her first cousins. She is now
an elderly woman and this has been something she's wanted to know since the
war. Does anyone have the name in their family or on a list they've seen or
can offer advice since not having the married name of this aunt is a major
handicap (as it was at the end of WWII). --Please contact for Evelyn: Karen
KKirshner@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GERSHONOVITZ, Feygel and family #general

KKirshner@...
 

A dear long-time family friend and neighbor just opened up to me a little bit
about her Greenberg-Sleyzing (Germany) Concentration Camp experience and the
long death march she took and escaped >from as a teen. She was >from Southern
Poland at the time of WWII and her mother's maiden name (and her name in the
camp) was GERSHONOVITZ, even though her true maiden name was ROSENBERG. Upon
surviving the war, she desperately tried to find her maternal aunt Feygel
GERSHONOVITZ who was living in England and who was married with two daughters.
She did not remember or know her aunt's married name and could not find her.
She wants to know what ever became of her and her first cousins. She is now
an elderly woman and this has been something she's wanted to know since the
war. Does anyone have the name in their family or on a list they've seen or
can offer advice since not having the married name of this aunt is a major
handicap (as it was at the end of WWII). --Please contact for Evelyn: Karen
KKirshner@aol.com


an Odessa shtetl group? #general

SBSeales
 

I am posting this for a fellow researcher who is interested in starting an
Odessa shtetl group, but who would want someone other that herself to be the
coordinator.
Anyone interested should contact Mona Panitz at mgpanitz@juno.com.
Sue Seales


ZERMAN Delayed Birth Certificates & 1905 NJ Census #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
I had read about delayed birth records, but this week I had my own
initial first-hand experience with actually seeing and using such a document.
Moreover, I received in the same mail not one, but *two* records both marked
"a true photostatic reproduction >from a microfilm image of the original
record."
These Certificates of Delayed Report of Birth were for members of the
ZERMAN / SHERMAN family which had lived in Trenton, NJ, and Atlanta, GA, circa
1905-1910. (I am researching this ZERMAN /SHERMAN family because it appears
their family surname was changed >from SURINAMER, and I am assiduously
endeavoring to attach them to my main ancestral line....)
It certainly was very helpful to receive these delayed birth
certificates. Not only did the documents list a date of birth as well as the
full name of both the father and mother, but these records also revealed the
very evidence the individual applicants had cited as proof of birth: their
respective listings on the 1905 New Jersey state census!
So, naturally, now I know I need to obtain a copy of the ZERMAN family
listing at 89 Union Street, Trenton, on the 1905 State Census.
If anyone out there has ready access to the 1905 NJ State Census, and is
familiar with using it, I would appreciate hearing >from you. I would be happy
to reciprocate with research on Long Island or in NYC.
Happy Sukkot with all its Sukkah-hopping and Lulav-waving to all!
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen an Odessa shtetl group? #general

SBSeales
 

I am posting this for a fellow researcher who is interested in starting an
Odessa shtetl group, but who would want someone other that herself to be the
coordinator.
Anyone interested should contact Mona Panitz at mgpanitz@juno.com.
Sue Seales


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZERMAN Delayed Birth Certificates & 1905 NJ Census #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
I had read about delayed birth records, but this week I had my own
initial first-hand experience with actually seeing and using such a document.
Moreover, I received in the same mail not one, but *two* records both marked
"a true photostatic reproduction >from a microfilm image of the original
record."
These Certificates of Delayed Report of Birth were for members of the
ZERMAN / SHERMAN family which had lived in Trenton, NJ, and Atlanta, GA, circa
1905-1910. (I am researching this ZERMAN /SHERMAN family because it appears
their family surname was changed >from SURINAMER, and I am assiduously
endeavoring to attach them to my main ancestral line....)
It certainly was very helpful to receive these delayed birth
certificates. Not only did the documents list a date of birth as well as the
full name of both the father and mother, but these records also revealed the
very evidence the individual applicants had cited as proof of birth: their
respective listings on the 1905 New Jersey state census!
So, naturally, now I know I need to obtain a copy of the ZERMAN family
listing at 89 Union Street, Trenton, on the 1905 State Census.
If anyone out there has ready access to the 1905 NJ State Census, and is
familiar with using it, I would appreciate hearing >from you. I would be happy
to reciprocate with research on Long Island or in NYC.
Happy Sukkot with all its Sukkah-hopping and Lulav-waving to all!
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, NY


Chuetas of Majorca #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Recently someone asked about obtaining information on the former crypto-Jewish
community of Majorca, now known as Chuetas. There is a wonderful book written
on the topic:

"Those of the Street: The Catholic-Jews of Mallorca" by Kenneth Moore.

In the 1700's on the island of Mallorca lived a sizeable group of
crypto-Jews. Although many were in the process of assimilation, a small
group of 15 families made an attempt to escape the island in order to be
able to practice Judaism more openly. The families were caught, and all
the usual punishment ensued. The sanbenitas (gowns) that they were
forced to wear for a number of years were emblazoned with their family
names, and eventualy hung in the main cathedral in Palma. Because the
sanbenitas were visible for so many years, the islanders came to
consider everyone who bore one of those 15 surnames Jewish. >from the
time of their capture, the families became devoutly Catholic, but
nevertheless the families Aguilo, Bonnin, Cortes, Forteza, Fuster,
Marti, Miro, Pico, Pina, Pomar, Segura, Taronji, Valenti, Valleriola and
Valls were ostracized. As a result, descendants of these people have
remained endogemous and married within their own group. This book is a
fascinating account of the Xuetas (or Chuetas) as they are called on
Mallorca. It describes their evolution, kinship, occupations, religion
and solidarity, as well as touching on Jewish history on Mallorca >from
the Middle Ages up through the present. It is at once a socialogical
commentary and history book, and important for anyone doing genealogical
research in this area.
One interesting point the book makes concerning Jewish names is that
because of the incident which caused the original fifteen families to be
identified, these names are thought of as being Jewish on the island of
Mallorca--but not on the mainland of Spain. In fact, other surnames
obviously Jewish in origin in Mallorca--Abraham, Daviu, Elias, Jorda,
Sanso and Solom are NOT thought of as Jewish by the islanders.

For more information on where to find the book check the listing on the
Publications Database on the Jewishgen home page.

Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA CRomRider@aol.com


Do you know Chaskel HOLLANDER? #general

Beverly Shulster <bevs@...>
 

I have a beautiful sepia photograph of one Chaskel HOLLANDER, who
according to the inscription on the back, was a friend of my father's
family. No date on the photo, unfortunately. Chaskel looks in his 20s.

My father's family lived in Holland >from 1919-1940, so since the picture
was taken in a studio in The Hague, Holland, it probably was taken in the
1920s-30s. And since the inscription on the back is written in German,
this indicates to me that he knew the family >from the "old days", in Bobrka
or Lvov or Vienna or the WWI Austrian Army or ???

I would so like this beautiful photo to find its home. It's really
orphaned here with me. Any one of you 33 listed on the JGFF?

Contact me privately at <bevs@compuserve.com>

p.s. re: writing on photos -- the inscription, with fountain pen, has been
on the back of this photo for over 70 years and all is apparently well...


Beverly Shulster
Searching:
DONNER / Bobrka, Ukraine -> California, US
SCHULSTER / Bobrka, Bukaczowce & Tarnopol; Ukraine
-> Israel, Brazil, England, US
DE HAAFF, KATAN, SPETTER, VAN GELDER / Rotterdam, Holland
DE VRIES, VAN CREVELD, VAN THIJN / Rotterdam, Holland
HALPER / Belz, Ukraine -> Den Haag, Holland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chuetas of Majorca #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Recently someone asked about obtaining information on the former crypto-Jewish
community of Majorca, now known as Chuetas. There is a wonderful book written
on the topic:

"Those of the Street: The Catholic-Jews of Mallorca" by Kenneth Moore.

In the 1700's on the island of Mallorca lived a sizeable group of
crypto-Jews. Although many were in the process of assimilation, a small
group of 15 families made an attempt to escape the island in order to be
able to practice Judaism more openly. The families were caught, and all
the usual punishment ensued. The sanbenitas (gowns) that they were
forced to wear for a number of years were emblazoned with their family
names, and eventualy hung in the main cathedral in Palma. Because the
sanbenitas were visible for so many years, the islanders came to
consider everyone who bore one of those 15 surnames Jewish. >from the
time of their capture, the families became devoutly Catholic, but
nevertheless the families Aguilo, Bonnin, Cortes, Forteza, Fuster,
Marti, Miro, Pico, Pina, Pomar, Segura, Taronji, Valenti, Valleriola and
Valls were ostracized. As a result, descendants of these people have
remained endogemous and married within their own group. This book is a
fascinating account of the Xuetas (or Chuetas) as they are called on
Mallorca. It describes their evolution, kinship, occupations, religion
and solidarity, as well as touching on Jewish history on Mallorca >from
the Middle Ages up through the present. It is at once a socialogical
commentary and history book, and important for anyone doing genealogical
research in this area.
One interesting point the book makes concerning Jewish names is that
because of the incident which caused the original fifteen families to be
identified, these names are thought of as being Jewish on the island of
Mallorca--but not on the mainland of Spain. In fact, other surnames
obviously Jewish in origin in Mallorca--Abraham, Daviu, Elias, Jorda,
Sanso and Solom are NOT thought of as Jewish by the islanders.

For more information on where to find the book check the listing on the
Publications Database on the Jewishgen home page.

Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA CRomRider@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you know Chaskel HOLLANDER? #general

Beverly Shulster <bevs@...>
 

I have a beautiful sepia photograph of one Chaskel HOLLANDER, who
according to the inscription on the back, was a friend of my father's
family. No date on the photo, unfortunately. Chaskel looks in his 20s.

My father's family lived in Holland >from 1919-1940, so since the picture
was taken in a studio in The Hague, Holland, it probably was taken in the
1920s-30s. And since the inscription on the back is written in German,
this indicates to me that he knew the family >from the "old days", in Bobrka
or Lvov or Vienna or the WWI Austrian Army or ???

I would so like this beautiful photo to find its home. It's really
orphaned here with me. Any one of you 33 listed on the JGFF?

Contact me privately at <bevs@compuserve.com>

p.s. re: writing on photos -- the inscription, with fountain pen, has been
on the back of this photo for over 70 years and all is apparently well...


Beverly Shulster
Searching:
DONNER / Bobrka, Ukraine -> California, US
SCHULSTER / Bobrka, Bukaczowce & Tarnopol; Ukraine
-> Israel, Brazil, England, US
DE HAAFF, KATAN, SPETTER, VAN GELDER / Rotterdam, Holland
DE VRIES, VAN CREVELD, VAN THIJN / Rotterdam, Holland
HALPER / Belz, Ukraine -> Den Haag, Holland


Searching: DEJENIN KOHEN #general

Paul E. Laroque <laroque@...>
 

Shalom,

My name is Paul LaRoque. I have been doing my family tree and surfing the
Internet on my genealogy. I ran into a distant cousin who supplied me with
a wealth of information as well as a particular name that seems to stand
out.
I am trying to find out more about its origins and the meaning of the name
itself. It is *DEJENINQUEHEM* which could be denoted as *DEJENIN KOHEN*
It is Jewish sounding name in French. I am a 2nd generation American and my
origins come >from Montreal and France. I kindly ask that if you have any
recommendations or inputs to please email me back and let me know. My
goal is to find out more about this name and its history. Thank you very
much and for any help or suggestions you may concerning this name.
Please pardon me but I think I should be more specific about my request...do you have any idea how I can find out if it has a Jewish
connection and if it had a Jewish origin. By the way, the full name
of this person is Jeanne DEJENINQUEHEM.
Thank you kindly.

My warmest regards,

laroque@bendnet.com
Paul Laroque


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: DEJENIN KOHEN #general

Paul E. Laroque <laroque@...>
 

Shalom,

My name is Paul LaRoque. I have been doing my family tree and surfing the
Internet on my genealogy. I ran into a distant cousin who supplied me with
a wealth of information as well as a particular name that seems to stand
out.
I am trying to find out more about its origins and the meaning of the name
itself. It is *DEJENINQUEHEM* which could be denoted as *DEJENIN KOHEN*
It is Jewish sounding name in French. I am a 2nd generation American and my
origins come >from Montreal and France. I kindly ask that if you have any
recommendations or inputs to please email me back and let me know. My
goal is to find out more about this name and its history. Thank you very
much and for any help or suggestions you may concerning this name.
Please pardon me but I think I should be more specific about my request...do you have any idea how I can find out if it has a Jewish
connection and if it had a Jewish origin. By the way, the full name
of this person is Jeanne DEJENINQUEHEM.
Thank you kindly.

My warmest regards,

laroque@bendnet.com
Paul Laroque


Galician Rabbis and Scholars & NEBENZAHLs #general

Candice Bradley and Daniel Byrne <djbyrne@...>
 

An Israeli cousin found references to our shared family line, NEBENZAHL,
in the third volume of Rabbi Meir Wunder's Encyclopedia of Galician
Rabbis & Scholars. I found some earlier references to these volumes in
the JewishGen archives; at that time the volumes were available only in
Hebrew. Has any translation been attempted?

Candice Bradley
Appleton, WI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Galician Rabbis and Scholars & NEBENZAHLs #general

Candice Bradley and Daniel Byrne <djbyrne@...>
 

An Israeli cousin found references to our shared family line, NEBENZAHL,
in the third volume of Rabbi Meir Wunder's Encyclopedia of Galician
Rabbis & Scholars. I found some earlier references to these volumes in
the JewishGen archives; at that time the volumes were available only in
Hebrew. Has any translation been attempted?

Candice Bradley
Appleton, WI


Re: Census Method - also Searching ABRAMSON #general

Matthew <matthew24@...>
 

Hello Genners,

I thought I should share a method of Census searching I discovered
(or have others used it?). I was searching for the family of my
g-grandmother in the 1900 census. I knew the names of her siblings and
her mother, but I did not know her father's name. By going card by card
through the index (skipping every card that was in the wrong county), I
was able to find her after about a half hour of searching. She had a
common name, Abramson, but this method would be very easy to use on rare
surnames.

Also, I am searching for descendants of Henry and Rahcel ABRAMSON.
Both were born in Russia in 1862. They married c. 1873 and lived in New
York until c. 1889 when they moved to Philadelphia. Their children
(many of whom also used the name ABRAMS):

Kate b. 1884, m. Abe DENNENBERG
Harry ABRAMS b. 1886, never married
Ida b. 1888, m. Ralph BORMAN
Eva ABRAMS b. 1892, d. c. 1924, never married
Yetta b. 1894, m. ? INGRAM, first name unknown
May (Naomi?) b. c. 1896, m. William WARD
Lillian b. 1898, m. Michael SERODY
Bea b. c. 1900, m. Joe CAPLAN

Please reply privately to matthew24@geocities.com

Thanks,

Matthew Meisel
matthew24@geocities.com
http://jewish.genealogy.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Census Method - also Searching ABRAMSON #general

Matthew <matthew24@...>
 

Hello Genners,

I thought I should share a method of Census searching I discovered
(or have others used it?). I was searching for the family of my
g-grandmother in the 1900 census. I knew the names of her siblings and
her mother, but I did not know her father's name. By going card by card
through the index (skipping every card that was in the wrong county), I
was able to find her after about a half hour of searching. She had a
common name, Abramson, but this method would be very easy to use on rare
surnames.

Also, I am searching for descendants of Henry and Rahcel ABRAMSON.
Both were born in Russia in 1862. They married c. 1873 and lived in New
York until c. 1889 when they moved to Philadelphia. Their children
(many of whom also used the name ABRAMS):

Kate b. 1884, m. Abe DENNENBERG
Harry ABRAMS b. 1886, never married
Ida b. 1888, m. Ralph BORMAN
Eva ABRAMS b. 1892, d. c. 1924, never married
Yetta b. 1894, m. ? INGRAM, first name unknown
May (Naomi?) b. c. 1896, m. William WARD
Lillian b. 1898, m. Michael SERODY
Bea b. c. 1900, m. Joe CAPLAN

Please reply privately to matthew24@geocities.com

Thanks,

Matthew Meisel
matthew24@geocities.com
http://jewish.genealogy.org