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Relationship Please? #general

Len Pincus <lpincus@...>
 

Hate to post to the whole group but my mind just won't work this problem.

My GGM had a sister. The sister had a daughter. The daughter had a son.
What is my relationship to the son?

My GGM had a son. The son had a daughter. The daughter was my mother.

Len Pincus

lenny@...
Murrieta , CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Relationship Please? #general

Len Pincus <lpincus@...>
 

Hate to post to the whole group but my mind just won't work this problem.

My GGM had a sister. The sister had a daughter. The daughter had a son.
What is my relationship to the son?

My GGM had a son. The son had a daughter. The daughter was my mother.

Len Pincus

lenny@...
Murrieta , CA


Searching these Names ...... #general

Brett Lieberman <create@...>
 

Hi all :

I am searching these names:

Sorkes
Lessor
Rash
Ross
Zivian
Horowitz

Brett Lieberman
Vancouver Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: The best way to go >from here is to the resources
found in JewishGen. There is a wealth of information to help you
further your research. You can get a list of all the resources
available by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find : FamilyFinder where you
can search for other people researching the same surnames.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching these Names ...... #general

Brett Lieberman <create@...>
 

Hi all :

I am searching these names:

Sorkes
Lessor
Rash
Ross
Zivian
Horowitz

Brett Lieberman
Vancouver Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: The best way to go >from here is to the resources
found in JewishGen. There is a wealth of information to help you
further your research. You can get a list of all the resources
available by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find : FamilyFinder where you
can search for other people researching the same surnames.


Address/Phone in Israel for Zev COSSIN #general

Brett Lieberman <create@...>
 

I was wondering if someone might be able to look in the Israel Phone Book, not sure what city.

Name: "Zev Cossin"; I need an address.
Thank you,
Brett Lieberman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Address/Phone in Israel for Zev COSSIN #general

Brett Lieberman <create@...>
 

I was wondering if someone might be able to look in the Israel Phone Book, not sure what city.

Name: "Zev Cossin"; I need an address.
Thank you,
Brett Lieberman


Rosh Hashana, 1916: Thanks to many #general

MBernet@...
 

I had asked for information on the date of Rosh Hashana, 1916. I had an
overwhelming response >from this list. I want to personally thank everyone who
helped me; in case I have missed out someone, please put it dto computer
carelessness and accept this general expression of my gratitude. I have
learned that Rosh Hashana that year was Thursday, September 28 and Yom Kippur
was Shabbat, October 7.

This allowed me to understand the last days of my Father's brother Albert,
born in Bamberg and lived in Nurnberg, and to recite kaddish for him, for the
first time in 55 years. Albert was sent to the Flanders front by the Germans
on September 26, with a promise that he could spend Yom Kippur in synagogue in
Lille. He was blown up by a mortar shell on Erev Rosh Hashana, Wednesday
September 27, died Thursday October 5, and was tossed into a mass grave on
Erev Yom Kippur, October 6.

According to the Nurnberg Memorial Book for its fallen Jewish soldiers
(published essentially to "prove" to the Germans that Jews were not shirkers),
a Jewish army chaplain "said the appropriate memorial prayers over the grave
after the other clerics had finished theirs." Albert was two months shy of his
19th birthday. TNZV"H


Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF, Sali & Rachel, Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot, Paris ca 1942
WEIL[L], Albert, Fr. hon. consul in Nurnberg; returned to France 1936/7.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rosh Hashana, 1916: Thanks to many #general

MBernet@...
 

I had asked for information on the date of Rosh Hashana, 1916. I had an
overwhelming response >from this list. I want to personally thank everyone who
helped me; in case I have missed out someone, please put it dto computer
carelessness and accept this general expression of my gratitude. I have
learned that Rosh Hashana that year was Thursday, September 28 and Yom Kippur
was Shabbat, October 7.

This allowed me to understand the last days of my Father's brother Albert,
born in Bamberg and lived in Nurnberg, and to recite kaddish for him, for the
first time in 55 years. Albert was sent to the Flanders front by the Germans
on September 26, with a promise that he could spend Yom Kippur in synagogue in
Lille. He was blown up by a mortar shell on Erev Rosh Hashana, Wednesday
September 27, died Thursday October 5, and was tossed into a mass grave on
Erev Yom Kippur, October 6.

According to the Nurnberg Memorial Book for its fallen Jewish soldiers
(published essentially to "prove" to the Germans that Jews were not shirkers),
a Jewish army chaplain "said the appropriate memorial prayers over the grave
after the other clerics had finished theirs." Albert was two months shy of his
19th birthday. TNZV"H


Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF, Sali & Rachel, Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot, Paris ca 1942
WEIL[L], Albert, Fr. hon. consul in Nurnberg; returned to France 1936/7.


Origins of the name Etil #general

Ellie Weld <ellieweld@...>
 

I have just discovered, >from a marriage authorisation, that my grandmother's
Hebrew name was Etil. Her English name was Matilda, so I can see some
connection, but I should like to know more about the Hebrew name. Charles
Tucker, who sent me the authorisation, translated the Hebrew bit referring
to the name as The Virgin Etil; I don't know whether that is what the name
means, or whether it just describes my grandmother's status on the eve of
her marriage. At any rate, Etil is a name I've never heard of before and I
would welcome some explanation of it >from someone.

Ellie Weld
Twickenham, Mddx
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Origins of the name Etil #general

Ellie Weld <ellieweld@...>
 

I have just discovered, >from a marriage authorisation, that my grandmother's
Hebrew name was Etil. Her English name was Matilda, so I can see some
connection, but I should like to know more about the Hebrew name. Charles
Tucker, who sent me the authorisation, translated the Hebrew bit referring
to the name as The Virgin Etil; I don't know whether that is what the name
means, or whether it just describes my grandmother's status on the eve of
her marriage. At any rate, Etil is a name I've never heard of before and I
would welcome some explanation of it >from someone.

Ellie Weld
Twickenham, Mddx
England


Address in Prague #hungary

Stephen SCHMIDEG <stephen@...>
 

If there is a H-SIG member living in Prague I need help to locate an address and telephone number for a cousin called Peter Benesch. I found the Czech phone book on the Internet, but because of the
language problem I didn't get far.

Stephen Schmideg
Melbourne, Australia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Address in Prague #hungary

Stephen SCHMIDEG <stephen@...>
 

If there is a H-SIG member living in Prague I need help to locate an address and telephone number for a cousin called Peter Benesch. I found the Czech phone book on the Internet, but because of the
language problem I didn't get far.

Stephen Schmideg
Melbourne, Australia


1848 census of Gemzse #hungary

Peter S. Spiro <peter.spiro@...>
 

I have entered the names for the village of Gemzse in Szabolcs County in
a spreadsheet, whose URL is
http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/gemcensu.wk1


(If you are using Netscape, hold down the shift key while you click on
this URL, and it will save it rather than trying to open it. You can
then view the file later using your spreadsheet program.)

Gemzse is a tiny village near Kisvarda. Jews lived there since the
1700s, and in 1848 20 percent of its population was Jewish. As
opportunities opened elsewhere, Jews moved away, and its Jewish
population declined. I have never met anybody else who claims to be
descended >from there (apart >from my known cousins), but no doubt some
H-SIGers do have ancestors there, whom they no longer recall.
--

| Peter Spiro ----- Toronto, Canada |
| Visit my homepage at: |
| http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/ |


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1848 census of Gemzse #hungary

Peter S. Spiro <peter.spiro@...>
 

I have entered the names for the village of Gemzse in Szabolcs County in
a spreadsheet, whose URL is
http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/gemcensu.wk1


(If you are using Netscape, hold down the shift key while you click on
this URL, and it will save it rather than trying to open it. You can
then view the file later using your spreadsheet program.)

Gemzse is a tiny village near Kisvarda. Jews lived there since the
1700s, and in 1848 20 percent of its population was Jewish. As
opportunities opened elsewhere, Jews moved away, and its Jewish
population declined. I have never met anybody else who claims to be
descended >from there (apart >from my known cousins), but no doubt some
H-SIGers do have ancestors there, whom they no longer recall.
--

| Peter Spiro ----- Toronto, Canada |
| Visit my homepage at: |
| http://webhome.idirect.com/~spirop/ |


CZENSTOCHOV #lithuania

Hal Maggied PhD <drmaggoo@...>
 

Litvak members



Shalom Khaverim: <italic>CZENSTOCHOV: Our Legacy </italic>is available
from the Judaica Collections at the Florida Atlantic University
Library. We have numerous brand new copies of this Yizkor Bukh which
was edited, translated to English, and published in 1993, by Harry
Klein. This Yizkor Bukh contains a 360 page English section and a 117
page Yiddush section. Co-Editor was Ruth Klein Tatner and Consulting
Editor was Prof.: Menachem Rotstein.


"Czenstochova is located approximately 125 miles southwest of Warsaw;
the shrine of Jasna Gora Madonna in Czenstochova was celebrated as a
center of Catholic pilgrimage. Seventy-five Jewish residents were
recorded in Czenstochova in 1765 and 495 in 1808, when an organized
community was established. Although Jewish residence was prohibited in
certain districts, the Jewish population grew.... and in 1863, with the
abolition of the Jewish quarter, to 3,360 [37.3%]. By 1900, it numbered
11, 764....and in 1939,

28,486."


" The German Army entered the city on 3 September 1939. The next day,
later called 'Bloody Monday", a pogrom was organized in which a few
hundred Jews were murdered." ".... When a greater number of Jews from
other parts of western Poland came in 1940-41, the city's population
grew by several thousands. On 9 April 1941, a ghetto was
established.... On 23 September a large-scale 'aktion' began. By 5
October, about 39,000 people had been deported to Treblinka and
exterminated [sic], while 2,000 were executed on the spot."


This Yizkor Bukh is bound in hard-cover and printed in 12-point type.
It contains several photos and maps. If you are interested in barter,
exchange, or trade, please contact:


Judaica Librarian Elliot Gertel <<egertel@...> or 561/297-3990.



<bigger>

VITEBSK Guberniya: Usvyaty=Uzhvit, Velizh=Veliz, Surazh=Suraz, Borisov,
Velikiye-Luki, Nevel, Kopreva, Vitebsk shtodt, Berezhukha;

VOLHYN Guberniya: Portisk=Poryck=Pavlovka, Lutzk=Luck,
Gorokhov=Horochow=Horchiv, Lokatchi=Lokache, Ludmir=Vladimir,
Swiniuchii=Sviynokh, Shklin, Brody, Torchin, Tur'ysk=Trisk,
Rovno=Riwni, Kovel=Kovla, Kupichov, Ozeriany;

Hal MAGGIED, PhD AICP Ohio State Alumnus <<drmaggoo@...>


</bigger>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania CZENSTOCHOV #lithuania

Hal Maggied PhD <drmaggoo@...>
 

Litvak members



Shalom Khaverim: <italic>CZENSTOCHOV: Our Legacy </italic>is available
from the Judaica Collections at the Florida Atlantic University
Library. We have numerous brand new copies of this Yizkor Bukh which
was edited, translated to English, and published in 1993, by Harry
Klein. This Yizkor Bukh contains a 360 page English section and a 117
page Yiddush section. Co-Editor was Ruth Klein Tatner and Consulting
Editor was Prof.: Menachem Rotstein.


"Czenstochova is located approximately 125 miles southwest of Warsaw;
the shrine of Jasna Gora Madonna in Czenstochova was celebrated as a
center of Catholic pilgrimage. Seventy-five Jewish residents were
recorded in Czenstochova in 1765 and 495 in 1808, when an organized
community was established. Although Jewish residence was prohibited in
certain districts, the Jewish population grew.... and in 1863, with the
abolition of the Jewish quarter, to 3,360 [37.3%]. By 1900, it numbered
11, 764....and in 1939,

28,486."


" The German Army entered the city on 3 September 1939. The next day,
later called 'Bloody Monday", a pogrom was organized in which a few
hundred Jews were murdered." ".... When a greater number of Jews from
other parts of western Poland came in 1940-41, the city's population
grew by several thousands. On 9 April 1941, a ghetto was
established.... On 23 September a large-scale 'aktion' began. By 5
October, about 39,000 people had been deported to Treblinka and
exterminated [sic], while 2,000 were executed on the spot."


This Yizkor Bukh is bound in hard-cover and printed in 12-point type.
It contains several photos and maps. If you are interested in barter,
exchange, or trade, please contact:


Judaica Librarian Elliot Gertel <<egertel@...> or 561/297-3990.



<bigger>

VITEBSK Guberniya: Usvyaty=Uzhvit, Velizh=Veliz, Surazh=Suraz, Borisov,
Velikiye-Luki, Nevel, Kopreva, Vitebsk shtodt, Berezhukha;

VOLHYN Guberniya: Portisk=Poryck=Pavlovka, Lutzk=Luck,
Gorokhov=Horochow=Horchiv, Lokatchi=Lokache, Ludmir=Vladimir,
Swiniuchii=Sviynokh, Shklin, Brody, Torchin, Tur'ysk=Trisk,
Rovno=Riwni, Kovel=Kovla, Kupichov, Ozeriany;

Hal MAGGIED, PhD AICP Ohio State Alumnus <<drmaggoo@...>


</bigger>


Re: Treblinka and Hrubieszonsic #poland

jennifer dropkin <jdropkin@...>
 

Nancy--could "Hrubieszonsic" possibly be "Hrubieszow"? It is a Polish town
close to the Bug river southeast of Warsaw. It is in serveral maps in Martin
Gilbert's *Atlas of the Holocaust*.

Good luck!
Jennifer

My father's brother, Sevek (Shyja Chaim) Grynberg was scheduled to
arrive in the U.S. in October 1939, but never was able to meet his
quota. In the first letter received by my father's sister, Sevek had
gone to a "work camp" in Hrubieszonsic, which was early 1940. Where or
what is this? I've not been able to find any information on this place.
Also, what happened to those who went to this "work camp"? Are there
any records?

Have you talked to anyone at the U.S. Holocaust Museum? I would think that
they would know about the status and location of Treblinka records, if they
still exist (and I understand that not all German records survived the war).

Secondly, my question pertains to a list of deporations or names of
those exterminated in Treblinka. I am well aware that the Nazis razed
Treblinka upon advance of the Russian army, but what did the Nazis do
with their records? I have consistently been told that no lists exist
for Treblinka, and I cannot understand this as records do exist for
other death camps.


Re: SIMON #lithuania

Irwin S. <irwins@...>
 

Irwin S. wrote:

I am looking in South Africa for descendants of Nachum Meier SIMON.
One of Nachum Meier SIMON's sons, Jacob, age 11, emigrated through
Hamburg, Germany in 1884 to the United States. Other sons, names
unknown, supposedly emigrated to South Africa on or about that same
time.

Jacob SIMON's passenger list >from Hamburg lists his home as Mariampole.
This could be Mariampole, Lithuania or Mariupol, on the sea of Azov,
Ukraine.

If anybody has any information on this family, you can email me
privately.

Irwin Sagenkahn
1009 Wyoming Avenue
Forty Fort, Pa. l8704
The above message never went through so I am sending it as an
attachment.


Kybartai yizkor book #lithuania

JoyceField <jfield@...>
 

The translation by Joseph Rosin of his 1988 book , Kybart Yizkor Book: a
Book of Remembrance of the Jewish Community of Kybart, Lithuania,
originally written in Hebrew, is now available on the Yizkor Book site.
We are grateful to Joel Alpert for his assistance in facilitating this.

The Yizkor Book Project translations can be read at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html




JOYCE FIELD
Translations Manager
JewishGen Yizkor Book Project

625 Avondale St., W. Lafayette, IN 47906-1101
phone: 765-463-1746 fax: 765-463-7194


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Treblinka and Hrubieszonsic #poland

jennifer dropkin <jdropkin@...>
 

Nancy--could "Hrubieszonsic" possibly be "Hrubieszow"? It is a Polish town
close to the Bug river southeast of Warsaw. It is in serveral maps in Martin
Gilbert's *Atlas of the Holocaust*.

Good luck!
Jennifer

My father's brother, Sevek (Shyja Chaim) Grynberg was scheduled to
arrive in the U.S. in October 1939, but never was able to meet his
quota. In the first letter received by my father's sister, Sevek had
gone to a "work camp" in Hrubieszonsic, which was early 1940. Where or
what is this? I've not been able to find any information on this place.
Also, what happened to those who went to this "work camp"? Are there
any records?

Have you talked to anyone at the U.S. Holocaust Museum? I would think that
they would know about the status and location of Treblinka records, if they
still exist (and I understand that not all German records survived the war).

Secondly, my question pertains to a list of deporations or names of
those exterminated in Treblinka. I am well aware that the Nazis razed
Treblinka upon advance of the Russian army, but what did the Nazis do
with their records? I have consistently been told that no lists exist
for Treblinka, and I cannot understand this as records do exist for
other death camps.