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Re: Relationship Please? #general

armata@...
 

I think he's your second cousin once removed:


FamilyA----FamilyB:

GGM------sister (GGM's sister)
GM ------daughter (GM's cousin)
M ------son (M's second cousin)
You

Since the relationship spans one generation, that makes it your
second cousin once removed. If the son had children, they'd be the
same generation as you so they'd be your third cousins.

Joe Armata
armata@...

lpincus@... (Len Pincus) writes:
Hate to post to the whole group but my mind just won't work this problem.

My GGM had a sister. The sister had a daughter. The daughter had a son.
What is my relationship to the son?

My GGM had a son. The son had a daughter. The daughter was my mother.
MODERATOR NOTE: The original question has been answered.
The thread is closed


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Relationship Please? #general

armata@...
 

I think he's your second cousin once removed:


FamilyA----FamilyB:

GGM------sister (GGM's sister)
GM ------daughter (GM's cousin)
M ------son (M's second cousin)
You

Since the relationship spans one generation, that makes it your
second cousin once removed. If the son had children, they'd be the
same generation as you so they'd be your third cousins.

Joe Armata
armata@...

lpincus@... (Len Pincus) writes:
Hate to post to the whole group but my mind just won't work this problem.

My GGM had a sister. The sister had a daughter. The daughter had a son.
What is my relationship to the son?

My GGM had a son. The son had a daughter. The daughter was my mother.
MODERATOR NOTE: The original question has been answered.
The thread is closed


Re: Relationship Please? #general

Jay A. Palmer <jpalmer2@...>
 

Second cousins once removed
Jay A. Palmer

Len Pincus <lpincus@...> wrote in article
<LYR6197-16652--approved-soc-genealogy-jewish@...>...

My GGM had a sister. The sister had a daughter. The daughter had a son.
What is my relationship to the son?

My GGM had a son. The son had a daughter. The daughter was my mother.

Len Pincus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Relationship Please? #general

Jay A. Palmer <jpalmer2@...>
 

Second cousins once removed
Jay A. Palmer

Len Pincus <lpincus@...> wrote in article
<LYR6197-16652--approved-soc-genealogy-jewish@...>...

My GGM had a sister. The sister had a daughter. The daughter had a son.
What is my relationship to the son?

My GGM had a son. The son had a daughter. The daughter was my mother.

Len Pincus


Tracing Warren Levy #general

SKM <mead@...>
 

Any assistance in tracing Warren Levy, a childhood friend >from Borehamwood,
last known address:
6 Dover House, Stratton Close, Edgware
would be greatly appreciated. Warren would be about 52 now, married to Helen
and with 2 sons aged around 27 - 30.

In hope, Simon Meade

mead@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tracing Warren Levy #general

SKM <mead@...>
 

Any assistance in tracing Warren Levy, a childhood friend >from Borehamwood,
last known address:
6 Dover House, Stratton Close, Edgware
would be greatly appreciated. Warren would be about 52 now, married to Helen
and with 2 sons aged around 27 - 30.

In hope, Simon Meade

mead@...


Social Security Death Index #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Referring to the new FOIA request letter (which his message copies to
the Discussion Group) for information >from the Social Security Admin,
Alan H. Rosen comments, in part, as follows -

The letter also has some rather forceful rhetoric:

Dear Freedom of Information Officer,

I am writing this request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C.
Section 552. I hereby request the Social Security File (including the SS-5,
Application for Social Security Card) for the following individual:

DOE, JOHN
000-00-0000
Birth:
Death:

This individual is deceased, having been listed in the Social Security
Administration's Death Master File. I understand the fee for this service
is $7.00 when the Social Security Number is provided. Included is a check
for $______ made out to the Social Security Administration to cover any
administrative costs required by this request.

Barring "unusual circumstances," please respond to my request within ten
working days of the receipt of this initial correspondence. Thank you for
your attention and assistance.

Sincerely,
Dear colleagues - Just for the legal record, the language cited is the
legislatively mandated FOIA language that was always to be included
in all FOIA requests to all agencies and departments. The 10 day
"demand" period is mandated by law, and was always a requirement.
SSA just ignores it - waiting on people to complain or force
the issue.

When this period is not complied with, and I usually insert a twenty
(20) day period, as it allows for a better challenge to non-compliance
much later in the process. Complaints for exceeding the time period,
and I would wait at least twenty (20) working days before filing any
complaint, should as a first step be filed with the Inspector General
for the Social Security Administration.

The SSA IG is under the US Dept of Health & Human Services (HHS) at
US Dept. of Health & Human Services, Cohen Bldg/RM: 5250,
Washington, DC. As of Sept/97, the IG was Ms. June G. Brown - But it
is better to just address to the IG rather than a specific name.

Best regards,
Chuck Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493

Searching YARESHEFSKY - Odessa, Ukraine - > Brooklyn, NY 1900.



JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Social Security Death Index #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Referring to the new FOIA request letter (which his message copies to
the Discussion Group) for information >from the Social Security Admin,
Alan H. Rosen comments, in part, as follows -

The letter also has some rather forceful rhetoric:

Dear Freedom of Information Officer,

I am writing this request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C.
Section 552. I hereby request the Social Security File (including the SS-5,
Application for Social Security Card) for the following individual:

DOE, JOHN
000-00-0000
Birth:
Death:

This individual is deceased, having been listed in the Social Security
Administration's Death Master File. I understand the fee for this service
is $7.00 when the Social Security Number is provided. Included is a check
for $______ made out to the Social Security Administration to cover any
administrative costs required by this request.

Barring "unusual circumstances," please respond to my request within ten
working days of the receipt of this initial correspondence. Thank you for
your attention and assistance.

Sincerely,
Dear colleagues - Just for the legal record, the language cited is the
legislatively mandated FOIA language that was always to be included
in all FOIA requests to all agencies and departments. The 10 day
"demand" period is mandated by law, and was always a requirement.
SSA just ignores it - waiting on people to complain or force
the issue.

When this period is not complied with, and I usually insert a twenty
(20) day period, as it allows for a better challenge to non-compliance
much later in the process. Complaints for exceeding the time period,
and I would wait at least twenty (20) working days before filing any
complaint, should as a first step be filed with the Inspector General
for the Social Security Administration.

The SSA IG is under the US Dept of Health & Human Services (HHS) at
US Dept. of Health & Human Services, Cohen Bldg/RM: 5250,
Washington, DC. As of Sept/97, the IG was Ms. June G. Brown - But it
is better to just address to the IG rather than a specific name.

Best regards,
Chuck Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493

Searching YARESHEFSKY - Odessa, Ukraine - > Brooklyn, NY 1900.



Figuring relationships #general

LeftOn@...
 

Len Pincus asked about the reationship between him and his GGM's sister's
grandchild. They are second cousins once removed. The following may be
helpful:

sibling A ---------------------- sibling B

child of A --- 1st cousins --- child of B

gchild of A -- 2nd cousins -- gchild of B

ggchild of A - 3rd cousins - ggchild of B

When the relationship crosses generations the term removed is used. If the
relationship crosses two generations the relationship is twice removed. Thus,
Len is ggchild of A and he is a second cousin once removed >from gchild of B.

Dan Farbman
lefton@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Figuring relationships #general

LeftOn@...
 

Len Pincus asked about the reationship between him and his GGM's sister's
grandchild. They are second cousins once removed. The following may be
helpful:

sibling A ---------------------- sibling B

child of A --- 1st cousins --- child of B

gchild of A -- 2nd cousins -- gchild of B

ggchild of A - 3rd cousins - ggchild of B

When the relationship crosses generations the term removed is used. If the
relationship crosses two generations the relationship is twice removed. Thus,
Len is ggchild of A and he is a second cousin once removed >from gchild of B.

Dan Farbman
lefton@...


Gilden #general

Stephen Z. Schneider <sschneid@...>
 

I am compiling a family tree for my wife's mother's family named
Gilden. While there is adequate information about the family that
descends >from my wife's grandfather, Harris (or Aaron) Gilden,
there is little information about other members of the Gilden or
Gildenson family >from Russia. My wife's grandparents were married
in London and had three sons there before moving to the USA. Her
grandfather Aaron was born in 1880 and had a father named Mendel
according to the marriage certificate >from England.
If you can assist, please contact me at my work, 516-244-4033 or
e-mail sschneid@... Thank you.
Stephen Z. Schneider


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gilden #general

Stephen Z. Schneider <sschneid@...>
 

I am compiling a family tree for my wife's mother's family named
Gilden. While there is adequate information about the family that
descends >from my wife's grandfather, Harris (or Aaron) Gilden,
there is little information about other members of the Gilden or
Gildenson family >from Russia. My wife's grandparents were married
in London and had three sons there before moving to the USA. Her
grandfather Aaron was born in 1880 and had a father named Mendel
according to the marriage certificate >from England.
If you can assist, please contact me at my work, 516-244-4033 or
e-mail sschneid@... Thank you.
Stephen Z. Schneider


Snitko #general

Stephen Z. Schneider <sschneid@...>
 

I am compiling a family tree for my mother's mother's family named
Snitko/Feinberg. They are Jews >from a small town in Lithuania. They
came to the United States in the early part of this century. We are
seeking family members to add to the family tree and I am trying to
make a connection with people with similar last names.

Please contact me at my work, 516-244-4033 or e-mail
sschneid@... Thank you.
Stephen Z. Schneider


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Snitko #general

Stephen Z. Schneider <sschneid@...>
 

I am compiling a family tree for my mother's mother's family named
Snitko/Feinberg. They are Jews >from a small town in Lithuania. They
came to the United States in the early part of this century. We are
seeking family members to add to the family tree and I am trying to
make a connection with people with similar last names.

Please contact me at my work, 516-244-4033 or e-mail
sschneid@... Thank you.
Stephen Z. Schneider


visit in Hungary-1 #hungary

Leah Kraus <kraus@...>
 

Dear everyone.
After overcoming the experienced of our visit in Hungary I feel the
need to share other "hungarians" with my trip. To make it short readable
I'll divide the report.
The main plain was to go 'by the way" through Budapest to Prague, but as
it happens many times proportions change. In the air port in Budapest,
hearing hungarins everywhere was "the voice of the childhood" (my mother
language is hebrew ). i realized that my hungarian vocabulary is good
enough to be understood in the street. people are very kind and patient.

First I decided to look for my grand mother who passed away very young
after illness in 1912 (my father was 2 years old). I had the exact
details on the grave in the cemetery Kozma utca. We went to the
"Israelitak Orszagos Kepviselete" in Sip utza (Sip street) to find my
uncle's grave ( my father's brother) who arrived to Budapest after
liberation and passed away 4 months later >from typhus. With a document
from the hospital (which my father got >from the red cross 47 years ago )
. To my great regret the chevra kadisha in Sip utca were cold,
indifferent and not friendly. Desperately I asked to certify the
location of my g-ma to show that I "belong" but the only suggestion was
to look for in the non - jewish cemetery (one kind enough lady gave the
instructions how to "roll" with tram, bus etc.). We went to the Kozma
Utca Temeto. The grave is located far in the end. We were shocked to see
half of the cemetery getting lost in a "heavy forest, bushes and wild
roses". most gravestones are covered with "creepers" we love trees and
green plants everywhere (specially after coming >from our "yellow summer
in Israel) but not in such condition. Scratched and burned (>from the
nettles) we found the gravestone of my g-ma. It was a great feeling to
be connected with my grand mother, to have something real, something to
"touch" >from the past, to see it, to know that though this young women
did not raised her 4 children she had the virtue(?-zechut) that her
grand children come to say "El male Rachamim" after 85 years.
Seeing the situation of that cemetery I gave up >from looking in the
non-jewish one.
The day later we made a tour in the city. We like Budapest very much. a
beautiful pleasant city.
(tomorrow will send my next report).
by
Leah Kraus
Haifa, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary visit in Hungary-1 #hungary

Leah Kraus <kraus@...>
 

Dear everyone.
After overcoming the experienced of our visit in Hungary I feel the
need to share other "hungarians" with my trip. To make it short readable
I'll divide the report.
The main plain was to go 'by the way" through Budapest to Prague, but as
it happens many times proportions change. In the air port in Budapest,
hearing hungarins everywhere was "the voice of the childhood" (my mother
language is hebrew ). i realized that my hungarian vocabulary is good
enough to be understood in the street. people are very kind and patient.

First I decided to look for my grand mother who passed away very young
after illness in 1912 (my father was 2 years old). I had the exact
details on the grave in the cemetery Kozma utca. We went to the
"Israelitak Orszagos Kepviselete" in Sip utza (Sip street) to find my
uncle's grave ( my father's brother) who arrived to Budapest after
liberation and passed away 4 months later >from typhus. With a document
from the hospital (which my father got >from the red cross 47 years ago )
. To my great regret the chevra kadisha in Sip utca were cold,
indifferent and not friendly. Desperately I asked to certify the
location of my g-ma to show that I "belong" but the only suggestion was
to look for in the non - jewish cemetery (one kind enough lady gave the
instructions how to "roll" with tram, bus etc.). We went to the Kozma
Utca Temeto. The grave is located far in the end. We were shocked to see
half of the cemetery getting lost in a "heavy forest, bushes and wild
roses". most gravestones are covered with "creepers" we love trees and
green plants everywhere (specially after coming >from our "yellow summer
in Israel) but not in such condition. Scratched and burned (>from the
nettles) we found the gravestone of my g-ma. It was a great feeling to
be connected with my grand mother, to have something real, something to
"touch" >from the past, to see it, to know that though this young women
did not raised her 4 children she had the virtue(?-zechut) that her
grand children come to say "El male Rachamim" after 85 years.
Seeing the situation of that cemetery I gave up >from looking in the
non-jewish one.
The day later we made a tour in the city. We like Budapest very much. a
beautiful pleasant city.
(tomorrow will send my next report).
by
Leah Kraus
Haifa, Israel


My WEISZ/WEISS family tree posting #11 #hungary

Susanna Vendel <susanna.vendel@...>
 

This is the last posting. Other postings have been send on 6,7,27July,
3,17, 18, 24 Aug, 2, 8 Sept

The only information I have about the branches coming bellow is just the
names. No information about where the descendents are living.

A. Victor WEISS, b after 1865 Ermilhalyfalva
married Betha ?
Children:

1. Hilton WEISS
2. Mary WEISS

B. Sara SMITH (?), b after 1865 Ermihalyfalva
married ?
Children:

1. Jack ?
married Eleanor ?

2. Bertha ?
married ? POLOCZEK
Children:

a) Arthur ?
married Betty ?
Children:

1) Arthur ?
2) Susan ?

3. Al ?
married Myrthe ?

4. Joe ?
married Becky ?
Children:

a) Harlan?
married Eileen ?

b) Sandy ?
married Nate BECKER
Children:

1) Jonathan BECKER
2) Joshua BECKER
3) Lisa BECKER
4) Brime BECKER

5. Marian ?
6. Victor ?
married Marjorie ?

C. John WEISS, b 1884
married Julia STEINER
children:

1. Lilian WEISS
married Lawrence GARNER

2. Martin WEISS
married Marcie ?

This is the end of my family tree >from my paternal side.

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm
susanna.vendel@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary My WEISZ/WEISS family tree posting #11 #hungary

Susanna Vendel <susanna.vendel@...>
 

This is the last posting. Other postings have been send on 6,7,27July,
3,17, 18, 24 Aug, 2, 8 Sept

The only information I have about the branches coming bellow is just the
names. No information about where the descendents are living.

A. Victor WEISS, b after 1865 Ermilhalyfalva
married Betha ?
Children:

1. Hilton WEISS
2. Mary WEISS

B. Sara SMITH (?), b after 1865 Ermihalyfalva
married ?
Children:

1. Jack ?
married Eleanor ?

2. Bertha ?
married ? POLOCZEK
Children:

a) Arthur ?
married Betty ?
Children:

1) Arthur ?
2) Susan ?

3. Al ?
married Myrthe ?

4. Joe ?
married Becky ?
Children:

a) Harlan?
married Eileen ?

b) Sandy ?
married Nate BECKER
Children:

1) Jonathan BECKER
2) Joshua BECKER
3) Lisa BECKER
4) Brime BECKER

5. Marian ?
6. Victor ?
married Marjorie ?

C. John WEISS, b 1884
married Julia STEINER
children:

1. Lilian WEISS
married Lawrence GARNER

2. Martin WEISS
married Marcie ?

This is the end of my family tree >from my paternal side.

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm
susanna.vendel@...


Otzer haRabanim(Index of Rabbis) #belarus

Elyauri@...
 

I came across a reference to 'Otzer Ha Rabanim' a data base of Rabbis in
eastern Europe. If anyone knows where this source can be acquired I would be
most appreciative.

Edward G. Cohen
Long Beach ,NY


Belarus SIG #Belarus Otzer haRabanim(Index of Rabbis) #belarus

Elyauri@...
 

I came across a reference to 'Otzer Ha Rabanim' a data base of Rabbis in
eastern Europe. If anyone knows where this source can be acquired I would be
most appreciative.

Edward G. Cohen
Long Beach ,NY