Searching for my grandfather ROTNER forebearers, I found a "ROTNE" in
the above list.

It seems to me that possibly the "ROTNE" is a relative, since I also
found in the Revision List the family name "MARSHAK" of my Grandmother.
My Grandfather - Salmon Rotner - as he was known in the United States,
or Esau Sem Rotner, as he was known in Minsk, Russia about 1893, when he
emigrated to New York City and probably my Grandmother both came from
Minsk.

Could the translator of the List - V Charny - let me know whether the
final "R" was dropped in the translation?

Also, are later translations of "Revisions" available through Belarus SIG?

Best Regards, Evan Retman Rotner

Searching for my grandfather ROTNER forebearers, I found a "ROTNE" in
the above list.

It seems to me that possibly the "ROTNE" is a relative, since I also
found in the Revision List the family name "MARSHAK" of my Grandmother.
My Grandfather - Salmon Rotner - as he was known in the United States,
or Esau Sem Rotner, as he was known in Minsk, Russia about 1893, when he
emigrated to New York City and probably my Grandmother both came from
Minsk.

Could the translator of the List - V Charny - let me know whether the
final "R" was dropped in the translation?

Also, are later translations of "Revisions" available through Belarus SIG?

Best Regards, Evan Retman Rotner

Shalom Belarus Khaverim: L'Shanoh Tovah Tikosavun! Congratulations to David
Fox for assembling this SIG. This region has been overlooked, neglected,
and unidentified for along time as a region that is "...beyond the Pale",
"...in the Pale", undefinable, and just "White Russia". Moreover, some of
the guberniyae have not been delimited in scale geographically. For most of
us Litvaks who descend >from the region outside of the Baltic States, little
focus has emerged beyond Minsk and particularly in and around Vitebsk City.
While the city lies inside of Belarus, parts of the Guberniya Lies beyond
Belarus' borders. Unfortunately, because of the political boundary
delineation some of my ancestral shtetlakh lie within Belarus and others,
just a few v'erzhts away, are situated beyond.

Although I'm uncertain how this delimitation will be treated, I intend to
be part of this SIG and intricately involved. While the shtetlakh &
shtaedter are targets of most of us---me included, I submit that a view of
the river valleys and their tributaries might be in order. When the climate
was warm, the waterways were a means of transit by boat; when it was cold
---a much longer time during the year--- they were heavily iced and
provided for travel by horse-drawn sleigh. I'm interested in the shtetlakh
servicing the barge towpaths -along the Uzha & Dnieper and Dvina Rivers-
where my Pop and some of his shtarker cuzzins worked as barge mules not far

from Usvyaty, Velizh, Surazh, Koprevah, Berezhukhah, and other points along

the river bottoms and their hinterlands. These shtetlakh were situated
about 80 to 100 miles >from Vitebsk. Are we covered? Khai, Hal Maggied, PhD

Hi,

Regarding Michael Gross's posting regarding Smorgon:

My family is also >from Smorgon. I would also be interested in anything
pertaining to that town, especially it's history and Yizkor book.

Thanks for your help.

Michael Trapunsky
Rego Park, NY
mtrap@idt.net

Shalom Belarus Khaverim: L'Shanoh Tovah Tikosavun! Congratulations to David
Fox for assembling this SIG. This region has been overlooked, neglected,
and unidentified for along time as a region that is "...beyond the Pale",
"...in the Pale", undefinable, and just "White Russia". Moreover, some of
the guberniyae have not been delimited in scale geographically. For most of
us Litvaks who descend >from the region outside of the Baltic States, little
focus has emerged beyond Minsk and particularly in and around Vitebsk City.
While the city lies inside of Belarus, parts of the Guberniya Lies beyond
Belarus' borders. Unfortunately, because of the political boundary
delineation some of my ancestral shtetlakh lie within Belarus and others,
just a few v'erzhts away, are situated beyond.

Although I'm uncertain how this delimitation will be treated, I intend to
be part of this SIG and intricately involved. While the shtetlakh &
shtaedter are targets of most of us---me included, I submit that a view of
the river valleys and their tributaries might be in order. When the climate
was warm, the waterways were a means of transit by boat; when it was cold
---a much longer time during the year--- they were heavily iced and
provided for travel by horse-drawn sleigh. I'm interested in the shtetlakh
servicing the barge towpaths -along the Uzha & Dnieper and Dvina Rivers-
where my Pop and some of his shtarker cuzzins worked as barge mules not far

from Usvyaty, Velizh, Surazh, Koprevah, Berezhukhah, and other points along

the river bottoms and their hinterlands. These shtetlakh were situated
about 80 to 100 miles >from Vitebsk. Are we covered? Khai, Hal Maggied, PhD

Hi,

Regarding Michael Gross's posting regarding Smorgon:

My family is also >from Smorgon. I would also be interested in anything
pertaining to that town, especially it's history and Yizkor book.

Thanks for your help.

Michael Trapunsky
Rego Park, NY
mtrap@idt.net

To the Belarus SIG:

JewishGen's Yizkor Book Project is pleased to announce a new database of
victims of the Shoah >from Nuremberg, Germany. Numerous organizations and
people cooperated on this project. The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum
assisted the Nuremberg City Archives in preparing the "Memorial Book for
Nuremberg's Victims of Shoah" to be published in November 1998, and then
recommended that the database be placed on the JewishGen site.

For his recognition of JewishGen we thank Peter Lande of the Holocaust
Museum. His ironic sense of humor, integrity, breadth of knowledge, and
unselfish gift of sharing his knowledge always make it a joy to work with
him. Michael Tobias created the search engine: I don't know how we can
ever say enough about his talents. My thanks to Martin Kessel, who handled
all the technical details with his usual creative flair and style and
humor. Finally, Mr. Gerhard Jochem of the Nuremberg Archives deserves
special acknowledgment for spearheading this project and for writing a
lucid and detailed overview of Jewish history in Nuremberg. This brilliant
Introduction should be mandatory reading for all of us involved in
Holocaust studies.

Nuremberg played a critical role at both the beginning and end of the
Holocaust. In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws deprived Jews of their citizenship
and civil rights. Beginning in 1945, the Nuremberg Trials brought the
perpetrators of Nazi war crimes to justice. We find it touching that the
City of Nuremberg has seen fit to commemorate its victims by publishing
this book and by making this material available on JewishGen.

Joyce Field
Translations Manager
Yizkor Book Project

Joyce Field
jfield@nlci.com

To the Belarus SIG:

JewishGen's Yizkor Book Project is pleased to announce a new database of
victims of the Shoah >from Nuremberg, Germany. Numerous organizations and
people cooperated on this project. The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum
assisted the Nuremberg City Archives in preparing the "Memorial Book for
Nuremberg's Victims of Shoah" to be published in November 1998, and then
recommended that the database be placed on the JewishGen site.

For his recognition of JewishGen we thank Peter Lande of the Holocaust
Museum. His ironic sense of humor, integrity, breadth of knowledge, and
unselfish gift of sharing his knowledge always make it a joy to work with
him. Michael Tobias created the search engine: I don't know how we can
ever say enough about his talents. My thanks to Martin Kessel, who handled
all the technical details with his usual creative flair and style and
humor. Finally, Mr. Gerhard Jochem of the Nuremberg Archives deserves
special acknowledgment for spearheading this project and for writing a
lucid and detailed overview of Jewish history in Nuremberg. This brilliant
Introduction should be mandatory reading for all of us involved in
Holocaust studies.

Nuremberg played a critical role at both the beginning and end of the
Holocaust. In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws deprived Jews of their citizenship
and civil rights. Beginning in 1945, the Nuremberg Trials brought the
perpetrators of Nazi war crimes to justice. We find it touching that the
City of Nuremberg has seen fit to commemorate its victims by publishing
this book and by making this material available on JewishGen.

Joyce Field
Translations Manager
Yizkor Book Project

Joyce Field
jfield@nlci.com

We have not received the Digest for the past 4 days. The last one we
received was on October 4 and I believe that was for October 3rd. Were there
any digests on those days? Should we have received anything?
Thank you

Judith Koenig Fox
Researching ::GLICKLIN, KARASIK, WILENSKY, BYEVSKY,MOSKOWITZ, KOENIGSBERG
YAMNITSKY, PLOTKIN,etc.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sorry folks. I was out of town on a business trip to
Maine and could not get to a computer to moderate and release the messages.
All the messages that came in during my absence are being released today
and you should start receiving the Belarus SIG Digest again. DMF

We have not received the Digest for the past 4 days. The last one we
received was on October 4 and I believe that was for October 3rd. Were there
any digests on those days? Should we have received anything?
Thank you

Judith Koenig Fox
Researching ::GLICKLIN, KARASIK, WILENSKY, BYEVSKY,MOSKOWITZ, KOENIGSBERG
YAMNITSKY, PLOTKIN,etc.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Sorry folks. I was out of town on a business trip to
Maine and could not get to a computer to moderate and release the messages.
All the messages that came in during my absence are being released today
and you should start receiving the Belarus SIG Digest again. DMF

Forwarded >from Morris P. Kagan by David Hoffman

<<October 9, 1998

Lithuania WWII Survivors Home Opens

Filed at 2:15 p.m. EDT

By The Associated Press

VILNIUS, Lithuania (AP) -- As part of a German-funded compensation
program, the first in a series of retirement homes for Holocaust
survivors opened Friday in Lithuania.

The center, which has 30 two-room apartments, a dining room and a
doctor's office, was paid for by a German government fund.

During Germany's 1941-44 occupation, over 90 percent of Lithuania's
240,000 Jews were killed -- one of the highest rates in Nazi-occupied
Europe.

Today, fewer than 1,000 Holocaust survivors remain in Lithuania.

After Lithuania became independent in 1991, Jewish groups began lobbying
for compensation similar to that provided by Germany to Jews living in
the West and in Israel.

But while many Lithuanian Jews called for direct cash payments, Bonn
refused, opting instead to spend about $1.2 million building health care
facilities like the new retirement home.

Some Jewish leaders in Lithuania have criticized the program, saying
many elderly Jews prefer living on their own or with their families and
so would not benefit >from the compensation package. >>

Forwarded >from Morris P. Kagan by David Hoffman

<<October 9, 1998

Lithuania WWII Survivors Home Opens

Filed at 2:15 p.m. EDT

By The Associated Press

VILNIUS, Lithuania (AP) -- As part of a German-funded compensation
program, the first in a series of retirement homes for Holocaust
survivors opened Friday in Lithuania.

The center, which has 30 two-room apartments, a dining room and a
doctor's office, was paid for by a German government fund.

During Germany's 1941-44 occupation, over 90 percent of Lithuania's
240,000 Jews were killed -- one of the highest rates in Nazi-occupied
Europe.

Today, fewer than 1,000 Holocaust survivors remain in Lithuania.

After Lithuania became independent in 1991, Jewish groups began lobbying
for compensation similar to that provided by Germany to Jews living in
the West and in Israel.

But while many Lithuanian Jews called for direct cash payments, Bonn
refused, opting instead to spend about $1.2 million building health care
facilities like the new retirement home.

Some Jewish leaders in Lithuania have criticized the program, saying
many elderly Jews prefer living on their own or with their families and
so would not benefit >from the compensation package. >>

Ian,

Sent me info. this morning trying to make a family connection. The
email he sent me keeps bouncing back. Would some nice soul see if there
is a listing for him on the jewishgen page as I currently do not have
access. If there is an email or snail mail address. It would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks for any efforts extended!

Traci :-)
Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We have checked both the JewishGen archives and email list prior to posting this request.

Ian,

Sent me info. this morning trying to make a family connection. The
email he sent me keeps bouncing back. Would some nice soul see if there
is a listing for him on the jewishgen page as I currently do not have
access. If there is an email or snail mail address. It would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks for any efforts extended!

Traci :-)
Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: We have checked both the JewishGen archives and email list prior to posting this request.

Lived in Volozhin around 100 years ago, sold chickens.

Had 10 daughters, 1 son.

Anyone who knows anything about this person or family, let me know !!

Many thanx.

Irving Wiener

Lived in Volozhin around 100 years ago, sold chickens.

Had 10 daughters, 1 son.

Anyone who knows anything about this person or family, let me know !!

Many thanx.

Irving Wiener

I believe Avraham , Maggid of Shklov and brother of the VG, wrote a book
'Ma'alos hatorah' Does anyone know the date of publication?

Hope a pleasant Succos is being enjoyed by all,

Ben Elton

I believe Avraham , Maggid of Shklov and brother of the VG, wrote a book
'Ma'alos hatorah' Does anyone know the date of publication?

Hope a pleasant Succos is being enjoyed by all,

Ben Elton

I'm searching for any informations, documents, personal stories...anything
that could help in saving the memory of the Jewish Life in the city of
Vrsac (Werschetz or Versecz), Banat, Yugoslavia.

Thank you

Nikola Roth

Dear JewishGendom,
A new OPPENHEIMER twist and turn in my SURNAMER research trail showed up
recently. While doing research in a Dutch archive, my 7th cousin, Jetty,
learned of a family named OPPENHEIMER which was inquiring back in 1934 about a
possible bequest to them >from the ancient Suriname estate of my 6th great-
uncle, Gerrit Jacobs.
The OPPENHEIMERS named on this list included Albert in Cleveland, Ohio;
Julius, Arnold, George all in NY, and Paul in Amsterdam, Holland. All five
were brothers, and named as sons of a Leopold OPPENHEIMER who had passed away
Feb. 7, 1926, in Paramaribo, Suriname.
It is not yet known how these six OPPENHEIMERS might be connected to the
main SURINAMER /ZURNAMER family tree, though it is thought that a Gerzon
OPPENHEIMER (b. 1818 Germany?) and an Abraham OPPENHEIMER (b. circa 1813?)
were married to two sisters, Judith and Lea, great-granddaughters of Esther
Isaac HaCohen, who was the sister of Gerrit Jacobs.
Since Esther Isaac HaCohen was my 6th great grandmother, I'm sure you all
can understand how I have a strong vested interest in learning how I may or
may not be related to all these particular OPPENHEIMERS mentioned!!! {GRIN!}
I have already perused the JGFF (Jewish GEN Family Finder), FTJP (Family
Tree of the Jewish People), and SSDI (Social Security Death Index), but there
actually seem to be too many OPPENHEIMER possibilities there to try treading
these routes. Any other leads, tie-ins, or suggestions always gratefully
accepted.
Shalom,
Judith Shulamith Langer-Surnamer Caplan
<Judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, New York