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1999 Conference on Jewish Genealogy - Request for Program Proposals #general

JCYMBLER@...
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of New York, invites interested genealogists
to submit proposals for lectures at the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish
Genealogy to be held >from August 8 - 13, 1999 at the Marriot Marquis Hotel in
New York City. While we are contacting potential speakers and have received
confirmations for more than half of the program, we would welcome additional
program offerings >from the rest of the genealogical community. Many of you
have experience and knowledge that would be of great interest to others and
make for an interesting lecture presentation. If you are interested in
presenting a lecture at the seminar, please submit the following information.

-- A brief description of the proposed program, not to exceed one page of
length.

-- A biographical description, including your professional work and
genealogical experience.

-- A list of any genealogical lectures that you have recently given,
specifying the society.

We will have several programming themes at the Conference, including New York
Repositories, New York Research, The Immigration Process, Unusual Sources,
Back to the Old Country (you name it and we will have it), You and Your
Family, Methodology, Bridge to the 21st Century, Jewish Genetic Diseases,
Sephardic Research, Landsmanschaften Records, Rabbinic Genealogy, Holocaust
Research and Computer Research. We will accept and consider program proposals
on any subject; your proposal need not fit into one of the categories above.
We are trying to present a diverse group of lectures that will fulfill the
needs and satisfy the interests of genealogists with a wide range of
experience and interests.

We will accept program proposals until December 31, 1998. Program proposals
will be evaluated by the conference programming committee, and acceptances
will be based on the relevance of the topic, whether the topic is already
covered by confirmed speakers and the proposed speaker's experience.

We look forward to reading your program proposals and hope to see all of you
at the next summer conference.

Please send your proposals to:

Jeffrey Cymbler at <jcymbler@aol.com>

or by snail mail to:

Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc.
600 West End Avenue, Suite 10F
New York, NY 10024

More information regarding the conference will be posted on JewishGen in the
near future and will be found at our website at
<http://www.members.aol.com/nyc99conf>.
You may also email us at <nyc99conf@aol.com>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1999 Conference on Jewish Genealogy - Request for Program Proposals #general

JCYMBLER@...
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of New York, invites interested genealogists
to submit proposals for lectures at the 19th Annual Conference on Jewish
Genealogy to be held >from August 8 - 13, 1999 at the Marriot Marquis Hotel in
New York City. While we are contacting potential speakers and have received
confirmations for more than half of the program, we would welcome additional
program offerings >from the rest of the genealogical community. Many of you
have experience and knowledge that would be of great interest to others and
make for an interesting lecture presentation. If you are interested in
presenting a lecture at the seminar, please submit the following information.

-- A brief description of the proposed program, not to exceed one page of
length.

-- A biographical description, including your professional work and
genealogical experience.

-- A list of any genealogical lectures that you have recently given,
specifying the society.

We will have several programming themes at the Conference, including New York
Repositories, New York Research, The Immigration Process, Unusual Sources,
Back to the Old Country (you name it and we will have it), You and Your
Family, Methodology, Bridge to the 21st Century, Jewish Genetic Diseases,
Sephardic Research, Landsmanschaften Records, Rabbinic Genealogy, Holocaust
Research and Computer Research. We will accept and consider program proposals
on any subject; your proposal need not fit into one of the categories above.
We are trying to present a diverse group of lectures that will fulfill the
needs and satisfy the interests of genealogists with a wide range of
experience and interests.

We will accept program proposals until December 31, 1998. Program proposals
will be evaluated by the conference programming committee, and acceptances
will be based on the relevance of the topic, whether the topic is already
covered by confirmed speakers and the proposed speaker's experience.

We look forward to reading your program proposals and hope to see all of you
at the next summer conference.

Please send your proposals to:

Jeffrey Cymbler at <jcymbler@aol.com>

or by snail mail to:

Jewish Genealogical Society, Inc.
600 West End Avenue, Suite 10F
New York, NY 10024

More information regarding the conference will be posted on JewishGen in the
near future and will be found at our website at
<http://www.members.aol.com/nyc99conf>.
You may also email us at <nyc99conf@aol.com>.


Re: "Ben-Bat" etc. #lithuania

Arthur S. Abramson <abramson@...>
 

Dear David and Davida,
In the circumstances, I think your solution with the use of "ben" and
"bat" is excellent. Of course, if, now and then, no parent is given for a
wife, nothing can be done to set her apart >from another woman with the same
name and no name of a parent. It just can be helped.
Arthur

Arthur S. Abramson
Mansfield, Connecticut, U.S.A., abramson@uconnvm.uconn.edu


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: "Ben-Bat" etc. #lithuania

Arthur S. Abramson <abramson@...>
 

Dear David and Davida,
In the circumstances, I think your solution with the use of "ben" and
"bat" is excellent. Of course, if, now and then, no parent is given for a
wife, nothing can be done to set her apart >from another woman with the same
name and no name of a parent. It just can be helped.
Arthur

Arthur S. Abramson
Mansfield, Connecticut, U.S.A., abramson@uconnvm.uconn.edu


thorny issue #lithuania

DNHIowa@...
 

In a message dated 03-11-1998 2:56:46 PM Central Standard Time,
IVYSIM@prodigy.net writes:

Subj: thorny issue
Date: 03-11-1998 2:56:46 PM Central Standard Time
From: IVYSIM@prodigy.net (IVY SIMOFF)
Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:IVYSIM@prodigy.net">IVYSIM@prodigy.net</A>
To: DNHIowa@aol.com


Dear D and D:

I think your database is splendid. It matches many search sources. Thank
you for your work.
If I were savvy on the computer I would help, but I do very poor work.
Only Litvak Sig comes in
perfect and is a great help. Thanks again.
Ivy Simoff
IvySim@prodigy.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: thorny issue #lithuania

DNHIowa@...
 

In a message dated 03-11-1998 2:56:46 PM Central Standard Time,
IVYSIM@prodigy.net writes:

Subj: thorny issue
Date: 03-11-1998 2:56:46 PM Central Standard Time
From: IVYSIM@prodigy.net (IVY SIMOFF)
Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:IVYSIM@prodigy.net">IVYSIM@prodigy.net</A>
To: DNHIowa@aol.com


Dear D and D:

I think your database is splendid. It matches many search sources. Thank
you for your work.
If I were savvy on the computer I would help, but I do very poor work.
Only Litvak Sig comes in
perfect and is a great help. Thanks again.
Ivy Simoff
IvySim@prodigy.net


"Bar" and "Bat" #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Anita Berk <anitab@starmail.com> writes:

<< Why don't you just list their name exactly as listed on the revision
list.for instance: My mother was Zelda Wolpianska. Her father was Herschel
and her mother Henia. Why don't you just list it as Wolpianska Zelda Herschel
Henia or whatever just as it is listed?>>

This is exactly what we are doing. The "Bar" and "Bat" designations are in a
separate field for "Spouse" which doesn't exist in the Revision Lists. As we
noted in our first letter, we created this field for clarification, and intend
to indicate this in the introductory notes to the database. If you read that
post again, you will find where we have stated this.

So far, the concensus seems to be for using this additional field, but, we'd
like to hear >from more people before proceeding.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Bar" and "Bat" #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Anita Berk <anitab@starmail.com> writes:

<< Why don't you just list their name exactly as listed on the revision
list.for instance: My mother was Zelda Wolpianska. Her father was Herschel
and her mother Henia. Why don't you just list it as Wolpianska Zelda Herschel
Henia or whatever just as it is listed?>>

This is exactly what we are doing. The "Bar" and "Bat" designations are in a
separate field for "Spouse" which doesn't exist in the Revision Lists. As we
noted in our first letter, we created this field for clarification, and intend
to indicate this in the introductory notes to the database. If you read that
post again, you will find where we have stated this.

So far, the concensus seems to be for using this additional field, but, we'd
like to hear >from more people before proceeding.


Re: "Ben" - "Bat" - or other ways to differentiate in the "All Lithuania" database #lithuania

Anita Berk <anitab@...>
 

Dear Davida and David:

First of all, thank you for doing this.

Second of all, I would like to make a suggestion. I would not list "bat"
or "bar". I think you will confuse people. Why don't you just list
their name exactly as listed on the revision list.

for instance:

My mother was Zelda Wolpianska. Her father was Herschel and her mother
Henia.
Why don't you just list it as

Wolpianska Zelda Herschel Henia or whatever just as it is listed?


RUDMAN, Shmuel (with his father listed as RUDMAN, Movsha)
RUDMAN, Leah (who would be Shmuel's wife - and her father listed as David)

So under the "Spouse" field for Shmuel, we are listing Leah bat David, and
under the "Spouse" field for Leah, we are listing Shmuel ben Movsha.
See, now I would just list spouse as Leah daughter of David, or just
Leah. I do non-Jewish genealogy too, and many times we do not know the
maiden name of a woman. Bat to me implies a religious name, not a legal
name.

Anita Berk


Anita Berk
anitab@starmail.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: "Ben" - "Bat" - or other ways to differentiate in the "All Lithuania" database #lithuania

Anita Berk <anitab@...>
 

Dear Davida and David:

First of all, thank you for doing this.

Second of all, I would like to make a suggestion. I would not list "bat"
or "bar". I think you will confuse people. Why don't you just list
their name exactly as listed on the revision list.

for instance:

My mother was Zelda Wolpianska. Her father was Herschel and her mother
Henia.
Why don't you just list it as

Wolpianska Zelda Herschel Henia or whatever just as it is listed?


RUDMAN, Shmuel (with his father listed as RUDMAN, Movsha)
RUDMAN, Leah (who would be Shmuel's wife - and her father listed as David)

So under the "Spouse" field for Shmuel, we are listing Leah bat David, and
under the "Spouse" field for Leah, we are listing Shmuel ben Movsha.
See, now I would just list spouse as Leah daughter of David, or just
Leah. I do non-Jewish genealogy too, and many times we do not know the
maiden name of a woman. Bat to me implies a religious name, not a legal
name.

Anita Berk


Anita Berk
anitab@starmail.com


"Ben" - "Bat" - or other ways to differentiate in the "All Lithuania" database #lithuania

Nancy Mills <nancymills@...>
 

It would be helpful to me if you could let us know specifically what some
of the other options are for how to enter this data. I would be glad to
give you feedback on which option appeals most to me once I have the
opportunity to compare them. And thanks again for all your work on this!


Nancy Mills, nancymills@compuserve.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Ben" - "Bat" - or other ways to differentiate in the "All Lithuania" database #lithuania

Nancy Mills <nancymills@...>
 

It would be helpful to me if you could let us know specifically what some
of the other options are for how to enter this data. I would be glad to
give you feedback on which option appeals most to me once I have the
opportunity to compare them. And thanks again for all your work on this!


Nancy Mills, nancymills@compuserve.com


Internet Message #lithuania

MR ALFRED E LIPSEY <HUHK72A@...>
 

Under the cercumstances your logic and methods appear correct. What
you are doing is great and the best we can have at this time. AL
Lipsey huhk72a@prodigy.com



Moderator's Note: We are assuming that this is a response to the "Ben-Bat" question.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Internet Message #lithuania

MR ALFRED E LIPSEY <HUHK72A@...>
 

Under the cercumstances your logic and methods appear correct. What
you are doing is great and the best we can have at this time. AL
Lipsey huhk72a@prodigy.com



Moderator's Note: We are assuming that this is a response to the "Ben-Bat" question.


"Ben" - "Bat" #lithuania

DNHIowa@...
 

Forwarded >from Martha Lev-Zion:

From: martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il (Martha Lev-Zion)
To: DNHIowa@aol.com

An excellent idea and the very way it was done in the Hebrew registers!

Martha >>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Ben" - "Bat" #lithuania

DNHIowa@...
 

Forwarded >from Martha Lev-Zion:

From: martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il (Martha Lev-Zion)
To: DNHIowa@aol.com

An excellent idea and the very way it was done in the Hebrew registers!

Martha >>


Re: FEINBERG/Marijampole #lithuania

Ikesspot@...
 

I, too, am searching Marijampole. My ggrandfather was born in Marijampole,
ca. 1822 and emigrated to New Orleans in 1857 where he died of yellow fever in
1866, aged 44. His name was Abraham Daniel Friedlander. His wife, Riva Elka
Hirschenhorn came over with five children after the Civil War in either 1866
or 1867. The grandchil;dren were, presumably, also born in Marijampole.If you
have any connections with Friedlander/Hirschenhorn, please let me know. I am
interested in participating in a Marijampole special interest group, but I
don't know of any others with whom to cooperate nor how to go about it. I
have no particular computer skills or translation abilities, so I guess my
participation would be solely financial. Any ideas? I have copy of
Marijampole Yizkor Book.

Sincerely,

Jim Friedlander
5 Independence Drive
Freeport, ME 04032


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: FEINBERG/Marijampole #lithuania

Ikesspot@...
 

I, too, am searching Marijampole. My ggrandfather was born in Marijampole,
ca. 1822 and emigrated to New Orleans in 1857 where he died of yellow fever in
1866, aged 44. His name was Abraham Daniel Friedlander. His wife, Riva Elka
Hirschenhorn came over with five children after the Civil War in either 1866
or 1867. The grandchil;dren were, presumably, also born in Marijampole.If you
have any connections with Friedlander/Hirschenhorn, please let me know. I am
interested in participating in a Marijampole special interest group, but I
don't know of any others with whom to cooperate nor how to go about it. I
have no particular computer skills or translation abilities, so I guess my
participation would be solely financial. Any ideas? I have copy of
Marijampole Yizkor Book.

Sincerely,

Jim Friedlander
5 Independence Drive
Freeport, ME 04032


Re: UPDATE ON REVISION LIST ORDERS #lithuania

RHEBOB@...
 

I am primarily interested in Vilkija, Lithuania. Would that be part of the
Kovno group or is there another that I am unaware of? The names I am
researching are Friedland and Katavushnik. Thank you for any information you
can give me.

Rhea Kantner Frankl
6 Carter Lane
Wesley Hills, NY 10952-1107


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: UPDATE ON REVISION LIST ORDERS #lithuania

RHEBOB@...
 

I am primarily interested in Vilkija, Lithuania. Would that be part of the
Kovno group or is there another that I am unaware of? The names I am
researching are Friedland and Katavushnik. Thank you for any information you
can give me.

Rhea Kantner Frankl
6 Carter Lane
Wesley Hills, NY 10952-1107