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Re: Ellis Island #galicia

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Several people have written to me directly (in addition to those who
posted to the Discussion Group as a whole) regarding the Lee Iacocca
story I reported earlier this week. FWIW, the Ellis Island website
provides an opportunity to send them an e-mail comment. I did express my
concern but they have not responded as yet (if ever).

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
Researching:
ALEXANDER-&-CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before
1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island #general

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Several people have written to me directly (in addition to those who
posted to the Discussion Group as a whole) regarding the Lee Iacocca
story I reported earlier this week. FWIW, the Ellis Island website
provides an opportunity to send them an e-mail comment. I did express my
concern but they have not responded as yet (if ever).

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
Researching:
ALEXANDER-&-CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before
1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


Re: What and where is Jakszyc, Poland? #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

May be someone can tell me what is the correct spelling and where is
the small town of "JAKSZYC" ("Yud", "Kuf", "Shin" "Yud" "Zadik")
in Poland?
It had a small Jewish Community and supposed to be located in the Warthegau
region during WWII. ..
Ada Holtzman
There are two hamlets in Poland both located in Kielce region and both
called Jaksice [pron. yah kshee tze]. In Hebrew they will be spelled
with jud (ja)-kuf (ksi)-shin (sh) yud (i)-tzadik (c).
First Jaksice is located North >from Krakow near highway 77
(Krakow-Kielce-Warsaw) close to town Miecho'w. Jaksice is a railway
station on the railway line Krakow-Warsaw.

Second Jaksice is located nowhere close to the main roads, on Wisla
River just on the border Kielce and Tarnow regions.

Here is only one unresolved question. You have mentioned that this
shtetl was located in Warthegau region during WWII. German Nazis have
divided Poland into new three regions: one of them, Poznan (Posen)region
was renamed Warthegau and Jews were expelled to east Poland, renamed
General Government. Kielce region was located in General Government
area. Konin and Lodz were in Warthegau. This is why there is a bit of
confusion: is Jaksice in Kielce region a proper shtetl you are looking
for.

I hope that I didn't confuse you even more.

Alexander Sharon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What and where is Jakszyc, Poland? #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

May be someone can tell me what is the correct spelling and where is
the small town of "JAKSZYC" ("Yud", "Kuf", "Shin" "Yud" "Zadik")
in Poland?
It had a small Jewish Community and supposed to be located in the Warthegau
region during WWII. ..
Ada Holtzman
There are two hamlets in Poland both located in Kielce region and both
called Jaksice [pron. yah kshee tze]. In Hebrew they will be spelled
with jud (ja)-kuf (ksi)-shin (sh) yud (i)-tzadik (c).
First Jaksice is located North >from Krakow near highway 77
(Krakow-Kielce-Warsaw) close to town Miecho'w. Jaksice is a railway
station on the railway line Krakow-Warsaw.

Second Jaksice is located nowhere close to the main roads, on Wisla
River just on the border Kielce and Tarnow regions.

Here is only one unresolved question. You have mentioned that this
shtetl was located in Warthegau region during WWII. German Nazis have
divided Poland into new three regions: one of them, Poznan (Posen)region
was renamed Warthegau and Jews were expelled to east Poland, renamed
General Government. Kielce region was located in General Government
area. Konin and Lodz were in Warthegau. This is why there is a bit of
confusion: is Jaksice in Kielce region a proper shtetl you are looking
for.

I hope that I didn't confuse you even more.

Alexander Sharon


Family Reunions #general

suprlmn@...
 

At the risk of being repetitious, and / or for the sake of 'newbies', I should
like to share my own experience with family reunions.
First of all, instead of a hotel suite or ballroom whose cost is very often
prohibitive for many who would like to attend, we have a picnic in a park.
This involves a good deal of cooperation >from the local relatives. (Dress code
very casual)
1. 'Someone' needs to be responsible for reserving a particular park space
with picnic benches and cooking facilities, reasonably close to restrooms, at
least one full year in advance.
2. 'Someone' needs to keep an up-to-date list of everyone's current name &
address.
The current info is crucial in case of deaths, divorces, marriages, etc., so
as not to offend anyone.
3. 'Someone' needs to prepare and mail colorful fliers to everyone that will
include the following information: (a) Time and place; (b) General map of
area & specific location of reserved spot; (c) What to bring if you live in
the general vicinity, or a dollar amount to pay if you can't bring any food;
(d) Cut-off date for RSVP's; (e) Cost of several nearby hotels, group rates,
at different price levels, for those who come >from other than a nearby
location; (f) Return address, both snail- and email to include # of attendees
& their full names.
4. 'Someone' needs to coordinate who brings what, and be in charge of ordering
enough food for all in attendance, usually about 2 weeks in advance of picnic.
5. 'Someone' needs to be in charge of roping off picnic area, blowing
balloons, making signs, etc. as an aid in locating the exact space that has
been reserved.
6. 'Someone' needs to be in charge of cleanup afterwards.
7. 'Someone' needs to prepare extra large descendant charts for all to examine
(the youngest always appreciate these the most; they gleefully find
themselves, then drag reluctant parents over to look. This is a good way to
get updates and corrections.
8. 'Someone' needs to prepare name tags. I buy as many different colors of
commercial name tags as there are family branches. I prepare a large color
key chart indicating which branch is assigned which color, both tags and
writing thereon.
For example, if an individual is part of 3 branches, the tag will be the color
of the predominant one; additional names of branches will be in pre-assigned
colors; spouses can be accommodated this way also. Once they see the color
chart, it's very easy to find one's relationship to the others. At that
point, they can consult the appropriate descendant chart.
9. 'Someone' needs to provide lots of writing materials for exchange of
addresses, phone numbers, etc.
10. 'Someone' must find or assign 'volunteers' for all the above. Any fool
attempting to do it all will end up in the loony bin!
Please contact me privately if you have any questions. We've just done our
ninth annual picnic and are beginning to get the hang of it.
Susan Pearlman Northridge, California < suprlmn@aol.com >

Researching: CHERNITSKY, GLASSER, GOLDSTEIN, HOUSE, HURWITZ, JASKOLKA /
YASKOLKA, KAM, KAPELL, KOSLOVSKY, LASSOFF, LEV, LEVITAN, MALYETSKY, MILLSTEIN,
NITZBERG, PEARLMAN, RADDING, ROGALSKY, RUBINSTEIN, RUDY, SASLOVSKY /
ZASLOWSKY, SHORE / SZOR, SIDRANSKY / SIDRUNSKI, SCHEINMAN / SZEJNMAN,
WATNETSKY, WEINSTEIN, WIENER, WILSON, WISHNER, WISHNIATSKY, YELLIN, YOSHPE


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family Reunions #general

suprlmn@...
 

At the risk of being repetitious, and / or for the sake of 'newbies', I should
like to share my own experience with family reunions.
First of all, instead of a hotel suite or ballroom whose cost is very often
prohibitive for many who would like to attend, we have a picnic in a park.
This involves a good deal of cooperation >from the local relatives. (Dress code
very casual)
1. 'Someone' needs to be responsible for reserving a particular park space
with picnic benches and cooking facilities, reasonably close to restrooms, at
least one full year in advance.
2. 'Someone' needs to keep an up-to-date list of everyone's current name &
address.
The current info is crucial in case of deaths, divorces, marriages, etc., so
as not to offend anyone.
3. 'Someone' needs to prepare and mail colorful fliers to everyone that will
include the following information: (a) Time and place; (b) General map of
area & specific location of reserved spot; (c) What to bring if you live in
the general vicinity, or a dollar amount to pay if you can't bring any food;
(d) Cut-off date for RSVP's; (e) Cost of several nearby hotels, group rates,
at different price levels, for those who come >from other than a nearby
location; (f) Return address, both snail- and email to include # of attendees
& their full names.
4. 'Someone' needs to coordinate who brings what, and be in charge of ordering
enough food for all in attendance, usually about 2 weeks in advance of picnic.
5. 'Someone' needs to be in charge of roping off picnic area, blowing
balloons, making signs, etc. as an aid in locating the exact space that has
been reserved.
6. 'Someone' needs to be in charge of cleanup afterwards.
7. 'Someone' needs to prepare extra large descendant charts for all to examine
(the youngest always appreciate these the most; they gleefully find
themselves, then drag reluctant parents over to look. This is a good way to
get updates and corrections.
8. 'Someone' needs to prepare name tags. I buy as many different colors of
commercial name tags as there are family branches. I prepare a large color
key chart indicating which branch is assigned which color, both tags and
writing thereon.
For example, if an individual is part of 3 branches, the tag will be the color
of the predominant one; additional names of branches will be in pre-assigned
colors; spouses can be accommodated this way also. Once they see the color
chart, it's very easy to find one's relationship to the others. At that
point, they can consult the appropriate descendant chart.
9. 'Someone' needs to provide lots of writing materials for exchange of
addresses, phone numbers, etc.
10. 'Someone' must find or assign 'volunteers' for all the above. Any fool
attempting to do it all will end up in the loony bin!
Please contact me privately if you have any questions. We've just done our
ninth annual picnic and are beginning to get the hang of it.
Susan Pearlman Northridge, California < suprlmn@aol.com >

Researching: CHERNITSKY, GLASSER, GOLDSTEIN, HOUSE, HURWITZ, JASKOLKA /
YASKOLKA, KAM, KAPELL, KOSLOVSKY, LASSOFF, LEV, LEVITAN, MALYETSKY, MILLSTEIN,
NITZBERG, PEARLMAN, RADDING, ROGALSKY, RUBINSTEIN, RUDY, SASLOVSKY /
ZASLOWSKY, SHORE / SZOR, SIDRANSKY / SIDRUNSKI, SCHEINMAN / SZEJNMAN,
WATNETSKY, WEINSTEIN, WIENER, WILSON, WISHNER, WISHNIATSKY, YELLIN, YOSHPE


Re: Success Story #belarus

Stanley Diamond
 

Susan E. King" <susan.king@jewishgen.org> wrote on
Thu, 29 Oct 1998:

The recent success story posted by Phil Weintraub, as well as
so many others posted in the past are incredibly gratifying to
all of us here at JewishGen. We are all "qvelling" along with Phil
and so pleased that he has managed to accomplish all that he tells
us about.
Thank yous such as Phil's are what makes it all worthwhile.
Susan also went on to say:

Without sounding crass however, folks sometimes need to be
reminded that JewishGen survives and expands in direct
proportion to the financial support we receive >from those
who use our services day in and day out, year after year
As coordinator of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland to which
Phil spread some of his thank yous, I would like to add that our
project is also looking for support to accomplish the huge task
ahead in indexing all the 19th century Jewish vital records of
Poland. These include both the millions of records microfilmed
by the Mormons and the millions more in the Polish State Archives.

Information on how you can help JRI-Poland achieve its goals,
including starting a Shtetl CO-OP for your town(s) or helping
support the indexing work in Poland is available on the website
at: www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Success Story #general

Stanley Diamond
 

Susan E. King" <susan.king@jewishgen.org> wrote on
Thu, 29 Oct 1998:

The recent success story posted by Phil Weintraub, as well as
so many others posted in the past are incredibly gratifying to
all of us here at JewishGen. We are all "qvelling" along with Phil
and so pleased that he has managed to accomplish all that he tells
us about.
Thank yous such as Phil's are what makes it all worthwhile.
Susan also went on to say:

Without sounding crass however, folks sometimes need to be
reminded that JewishGen survives and expands in direct
proportion to the financial support we receive >from those
who use our services day in and day out, year after year
As coordinator of Jewish Records Indexing - Poland to which
Phil spread some of his thank yous, I would like to add that our
project is also looking for support to accomplish the huge task
ahead in indexing all the 19th century Jewish vital records of
Poland. These include both the millions of records microfilmed
by the Mormons and the millions more in the Polish State Archives.

Information on how you can help JRI-Poland achieve its goals,
including starting a Shtetl CO-OP for your town(s) or helping
support the indexing work in Poland is available on the website
at: www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Re: Nowy Sacz, Poland #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Mel Wolfsont wrote:

Am seeking information about the shtetl Nowy Sacz. Does anyone know of
this place? Were there any landmanschaft organizations in the New York
City area that people >from this shtetl belonged to. ...
You might visit Nowy Sacz nice Website, unfortunately it is only in
Polish:

http://www.ux.his.no/~romek/nowysacz/index.html

While visiting Nowy Sacz website and admiring pucture of a lovely
synagogue, I have noticed on the synagogue's page, the link to
Jewishgen's travellogue excellent article written by Mr.Leonard
Markowitz.

Alexander Sharon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Nowy Sacz, Poland #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Mel Wolfsont wrote:

Am seeking information about the shtetl Nowy Sacz. Does anyone know of
this place? Were there any landmanschaft organizations in the New York
City area that people >from this shtetl belonged to. ...
You might visit Nowy Sacz nice Website, unfortunately it is only in
Polish:

http://www.ux.his.no/~romek/nowysacz/index.html

While visiting Nowy Sacz website and admiring pucture of a lovely
synagogue, I have noticed on the synagogue's page, the link to
Jewishgen's travellogue excellent article written by Mr.Leonard
Markowitz.

Alexander Sharon


"Migrations from the Russian Empire" #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

The following message was posted to JewishGen and I wanted to make sure
that those who are not subscribed there saw it. I have volumes 2, 3, and
4. This series of reference volumes may help you determine when you
ancestors came to the US, what ship they came on, where they came from,
and enable you to locate the ships manifest which can provide some
additional data.

We now have in stock copies of Volumes 5 & 6 of "Migrations >from the
Russian Empire." The information about dates covered had been erroneously
given to us. The correct dates are:

Volume 5 June 1889 - July 1890
Volume 6 August 1890 - June 1891.

The volumes are an index to persons arriving in the Port of New York from
January 1875 - June 1891 who came >from the area that was czarist Russia.

Gary Mokotoff, Publisher
Avotaynu, Inc.

Visit our Web site at http://www.avotaynu.com
If this message is posted twice, please excuse my error, I forgot to
include a "Subject" the first time.

Dave


David M. Fox
mailto:fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Co-Coordinator

JOIN THE BELARUS SIG
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/>

Researching: Minsk: TSIVIN (SIVIN), RABINOWITZ, HURWITZ, FEIN
Mogilev & NYC: SCHENDEROFF (OV), TSIVIN, SHER, FYTELSON
Rogachev(BYL) & NYC: FYTELSON (FEITELSON), TELSON, COHEN
Popielniki, Dzurow, Banila (UKR): FUCHS, HUDES, MECHLAWICZ,

TISCHLER, LOBEL, LABALVITCH


Belarus SIG #Belarus "Migrations from the Russian Empire" #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

The following message was posted to JewishGen and I wanted to make sure
that those who are not subscribed there saw it. I have volumes 2, 3, and
4. This series of reference volumes may help you determine when you
ancestors came to the US, what ship they came on, where they came from,
and enable you to locate the ships manifest which can provide some
additional data.

We now have in stock copies of Volumes 5 & 6 of "Migrations >from the
Russian Empire." The information about dates covered had been erroneously
given to us. The correct dates are:

Volume 5 June 1889 - July 1890
Volume 6 August 1890 - June 1891.

The volumes are an index to persons arriving in the Port of New York from
January 1875 - June 1891 who came >from the area that was czarist Russia.

Gary Mokotoff, Publisher
Avotaynu, Inc.

Visit our Web site at http://www.avotaynu.com
If this message is posted twice, please excuse my error, I forgot to
include a "Subject" the first time.

Dave


David M. Fox
mailto:fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Co-Coordinator

JOIN THE BELARUS SIG
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/>

Researching: Minsk: TSIVIN (SIVIN), RABINOWITZ, HURWITZ, FEIN
Mogilev & NYC: SCHENDEROFF (OV), TSIVIN, SHER, FYTELSON
Rogachev(BYL) & NYC: FYTELSON (FEITELSON), TELSON, COHEN
Popielniki, Dzurow, Banila (UKR): FUCHS, HUDES, MECHLAWICZ,

TISCHLER, LOBEL, LABALVITCH


Re: jewishgen digest: October 30, 1998 #general

David W. Harris <dharris1@...>
 

I normally keep the accolades and complaints "off-line", but
since the moderator saw fit to allow the message below to pass,
I assume this message will also be printed. Registering dissatisfaction
is a valuable tool to making improvements. I have contributed
money to JewishGen, but even if I didn't, I think that negative,
as well as positive critiques, have value.

I have had a two month off-line disagreement with the JewishGen
moderator. I have 25 pages >from census reports and Passenger
Manifests, and I'm willing to prepare the list of names,
addresses, ships, dates, etc, for posting, but due to bandwidth
limitations, lists with more than 6 names will not be posted. To
"complain" about that policy does not imply that JewishGen is
worthless. If openly discussed, maybe JewishGen will come to a
conclusion that improvements to serve the interests of "the majority"
of the readership can be made. Until then, I will abide with the
decision of the moderator and not post the lists, but I will not
stop >from disagreeing with the policy.

Another example is taking the web search of the cemetery names
off-line. Not all the JewishGen readership are members of local
groups, and not all local groups are willing to loan out the CD-ROM,
nor do they have computers routinely available for members' use.
So what was easy to do through the JewishGen site is now difficult
to accomplish. To complain about it does not take "chuzzpah", but
is more in line with constructive criticism. It will also not
stop me >from continuing to contribute to a worthwhile endeavor.
---------------
David W. Harris
Silver Spring, MD
<dharris1@erols.com>

-------------------------------
From: ZDJJ37A@prodigy.com (PRES LOIS M FRIEDMAN)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:45:41, -0500
X-Message-Number: 1
I really don't know how anyone has the CHUZZPAH to complain about
this mailing list.
MODERATOR NOTE: Within the next day or so, JewishGen hopes to
announce what we believe is a solution to our present inability
to post miscellaneous lists of names. Final procedures are
currently being worked out.

JewishGen has always welcomed suggestions and will continue
to do so, in the proper forum. That does not happen to be
this list. Criticism and complaints will only be addressed
if sent to support@mail.jewishgen.org.

As to the expressed concern over removal of online data
for the cemetery project, please be advised that this has
never been a JewishGen project. We've merely served as a host
by providing the website.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: jewishgen digest: October 30, 1998 #general

David W. Harris <dharris1@...>
 

I normally keep the accolades and complaints "off-line", but
since the moderator saw fit to allow the message below to pass,
I assume this message will also be printed. Registering dissatisfaction
is a valuable tool to making improvements. I have contributed
money to JewishGen, but even if I didn't, I think that negative,
as well as positive critiques, have value.

I have had a two month off-line disagreement with the JewishGen
moderator. I have 25 pages >from census reports and Passenger
Manifests, and I'm willing to prepare the list of names,
addresses, ships, dates, etc, for posting, but due to bandwidth
limitations, lists with more than 6 names will not be posted. To
"complain" about that policy does not imply that JewishGen is
worthless. If openly discussed, maybe JewishGen will come to a
conclusion that improvements to serve the interests of "the majority"
of the readership can be made. Until then, I will abide with the
decision of the moderator and not post the lists, but I will not
stop >from disagreeing with the policy.

Another example is taking the web search of the cemetery names
off-line. Not all the JewishGen readership are members of local
groups, and not all local groups are willing to loan out the CD-ROM,
nor do they have computers routinely available for members' use.
So what was easy to do through the JewishGen site is now difficult
to accomplish. To complain about it does not take "chuzzpah", but
is more in line with constructive criticism. It will also not
stop me >from continuing to contribute to a worthwhile endeavor.
---------------
David W. Harris
Silver Spring, MD
<dharris1@erols.com>

-------------------------------
From: ZDJJ37A@prodigy.com (PRES LOIS M FRIEDMAN)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:45:41, -0500
X-Message-Number: 1
I really don't know how anyone has the CHUZZPAH to complain about
this mailing list.
MODERATOR NOTE: Within the next day or so, JewishGen hopes to
announce what we believe is a solution to our present inability
to post miscellaneous lists of names. Final procedures are
currently being worked out.

JewishGen has always welcomed suggestions and will continue
to do so, in the proper forum. That does not happen to be
this list. Criticism and complaints will only be addressed
if sent to support@mail.jewishgen.org.

As to the expressed concern over removal of online data
for the cemetery project, please be advised that this has
never been a JewishGen project. We've merely served as a host
by providing the website.


Re: Weekly Database Update. #lithuania

FESCHOCHET@...
 

My grandfather was a hide and fur merchant who lived in Zagare, Lithuania He
came to Minneapolis in 1890.

I am 83 years old, retired, with a Mac 7600.

How may I be of help?

Frank E. Schochet

feschochet@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Weekly Database Update. #lithuania

FESCHOCHET@...
 

My grandfather was a hide and fur merchant who lived in Zagare, Lithuania He
came to Minneapolis in 1890.

I am 83 years old, retired, with a Mac 7600.

How may I be of help?

Frank E. Schochet

feschochet@aol.com


Great news but, don't hold your breath #hungary

Jordan Auslander <jordan@...>
 

From: APG-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:12 PM
Subject: Ellis Island to Get Family History Research Center


Subject: Ellis Island to Get Family History Research Center: LDS Church
Press Release 28Oct98

ELLIS ISLAND TO GET FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH CENTER
Church is Digitizing 17 Million Immigrant Records for the Facility

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is playing a key role
in the establishment of a family history research center on New York's
Ellis Island, where in two years the public will have automated access
to a
computerized database containing 17 million U.S. immigration records.

At a news conference today on the island, Statue of Liberty-Ellis
Island Foundation Chairman Emeritus Lee Iacocca announced plans for the
American Family Immigration History Center, expected to open in the year
2000.
During the past five years, the Church, in cooperation with the
foundation
and the National Park Service, has spent more than two million
volunteer hours digitizing Ellis Island records. To date, some 65
percent
of
the records have been extracted >from microfilmed copies of the original
ledgers--passenger records and ships' manifests--which were mostly
hand-written, faded and damaged. The original documents were destroyed
years ago.

The remaining 35 percent of the records will be extracted and digitized
by the opening of the center, which will be situated in the Ellis Island
Immigration Museum. The center will house state-of-the-art interactive
computer technology that will bring family documentation and
genealogical exploration to visitors.

The Ellis Island records represent some 60 percent of all U.S.
immigration
records. It is estimated that more than 100 million Americans today can
trace
their roots to immigrants who passed through Ellis Island between
1892 and 1924.

The Family History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, is a world leader in genealogical research, with more
than
3,200 family history centers worldwide and the world's largest
collection of
family history records, housed in Salt Lake City.

from mormon-news: Mormon News and Events
Forwarding is permitted as long as this footer is included


Hungary SIG #Hungary Great news but, don't hold your breath #hungary

Jordan Auslander <jordan@...>
 

From: APG-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:12 PM
Subject: Ellis Island to Get Family History Research Center


Subject: Ellis Island to Get Family History Research Center: LDS Church
Press Release 28Oct98

ELLIS ISLAND TO GET FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH CENTER
Church is Digitizing 17 Million Immigrant Records for the Facility

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is playing a key role
in the establishment of a family history research center on New York's
Ellis Island, where in two years the public will have automated access
to a
computerized database containing 17 million U.S. immigration records.

At a news conference today on the island, Statue of Liberty-Ellis
Island Foundation Chairman Emeritus Lee Iacocca announced plans for the
American Family Immigration History Center, expected to open in the year
2000.
During the past five years, the Church, in cooperation with the
foundation
and the National Park Service, has spent more than two million
volunteer hours digitizing Ellis Island records. To date, some 65
percent
of
the records have been extracted >from microfilmed copies of the original
ledgers--passenger records and ships' manifests--which were mostly
hand-written, faded and damaged. The original documents were destroyed
years ago.

The remaining 35 percent of the records will be extracted and digitized
by the opening of the center, which will be situated in the Ellis Island
Immigration Museum. The center will house state-of-the-art interactive
computer technology that will bring family documentation and
genealogical exploration to visitors.

The Ellis Island records represent some 60 percent of all U.S.
immigration
records. It is estimated that more than 100 million Americans today can
trace
their roots to immigrants who passed through Ellis Island between
1892 and 1924.

The Family History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of
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Re: Conscripto Judeorum #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

melody gross <melody@gimby.save-net.co.il> 1998.10.31. 07:11:56 +2h-kor irta:

Dear Meéody,

My answers might be of general interest, so let me post it to the whole group!

Thanks for your quick reply. I am searching Amsels of northeastern
Slovakia, but this personal work has been surpassed by my latest project,
studying the town Sztropko (Stropkov), Slovakia.

Therefore, I am interested especially in referencers ro Sztropko. Can you
help me out?

Does the preface refer to Sztropko at all?
No! The 1725-1748 conscriptions do not have Sztropko. In 1725-1728 in the
whole of Zemplen county there were 78 Jewish families in 58 settlements.

A report dated June 21 1768 >from Satoraljaujhely states, that the county could not
conscribe the Jews of Zemplen county, because they are continously changing
their addresses.

Are there Jews >from Sztropko in the conscription lists? I assume that the
conscriptions were for battles against the Poles, possibly the Turks, and
the Hungarians (against the Catholic Hapsburgs) Which of these would be
correct?
I think, that conscritions were for collecting taxes >from Jews: that's why the Govt.
had to know how many horses, cows, sheeps, etc. Jews had.

(Sztropko is in northeastern Slovakia on the Polish border.) Were
Jews actually conscripted then? I thought that Jozef II first conscripted
the Jews.
There were partial (not national) Jewish conscriptions as early, as the 1564
conscription of Kismarton (Eisenstadt). It was published in MZSO. vol.II, no.32.

Do you have access to conscription records of later years--1848? 1867?
1914?

No, besides the 1848 conscription of Rohoncz/Rechnitz, and Szentes/Mindszent.

I would be most grateful if you could direct me, or do a look-up for me, as
well!

When you say "old names", you mean those before Jozef II's edict in 1787,
obviously. Do you mean that prior to that, Jews called themselves "son of"
in the local language, i.e. Moskovits, son of Mosko (Moshe)? I see in my
research that even after 1788, in the 1812 Census, some Jews of Sztropko
used this Slavic form, and not necessarily a German surname. Others did
use German names.
They are listed by old names. E.g. in Slavic speaking areas (East Hungary), name
and fathers's name plus -ovics: Abraham Herskovics, Volff Zelmanovics, Markus
Samsonovics.
In German speaking areas (W.Hungary): name and father's name: Lebl Mojses,
Wolfgangus Izrael, Salamon Michll. Sometimes occupation is given: Ebedt
Fleischhaker, Cain Schreiber, Tretsll Sneider, place of origin: Isaac Turkischer,
Hirsl Hollesan, Jommel Slezinger. Some have Hungarian surnames: Jacob
Kossuth (Vag Ujhel-Vagujhely), Abraham Voros, Slovak surnames: Wolff Vlcsek,
Abraham Viszoky, Hersl Midlac.

Would this mean that in that isolated part of the
country, German names were not strictly enforced?
German names were not required before the name order of 1787.

Fenyes Elek, Magyarorszah geographiai szotara. Vol. I-IV. Budapest 1851.
Reprint Budapest 1984.

Vol. IV. p. 163.: Sztropko, Slovak county town in Zemplen county. 1542 Roman
Catholics, 114 Greek Catholics, 10 Lutherans, 550Jews. There is a Catholic
church and a synagogue. It has large market. It has good meadows by Ondava
(river). It has forest and 1284 hold agricultural land. There is a castle, that has
been a target of Polish attacks.

Number of Jews in Sztropko:

Absolute number: As percentage of total population:

1840 1880 1910 1840 1880 1910

555 866 1141 22.7 43.3 44.1

The Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen Megyei Leveltar Satorlajaujhelyi Fiokleveltara
3980 Satorlajaujhely
Kossuth ter 5.
tel 36-41-21353 (looks like an old number.) has:

matrikula (birth, marriage, death) >from Sztropko and vicinity 1833-1874.

Best wishes,

Gyuri
--
Ujlaki Gyorgy
Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu
ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Conscripto Judeorum #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
 

melody gross <melody@gimby.save-net.co.il> 1998.10.31. 07:11:56 +2h-kor irta:

Dear Meéody,

My answers might be of general interest, so let me post it to the whole group!

Thanks for your quick reply. I am searching Amsels of northeastern
Slovakia, but this personal work has been surpassed by my latest project,
studying the town Sztropko (Stropkov), Slovakia.

Therefore, I am interested especially in referencers ro Sztropko. Can you
help me out?

Does the preface refer to Sztropko at all?
No! The 1725-1748 conscriptions do not have Sztropko. In 1725-1728 in the
whole of Zemplen county there were 78 Jewish families in 58 settlements.

A report dated June 21 1768 >from Satoraljaujhely states, that the county could not
conscribe the Jews of Zemplen county, because they are continously changing
their addresses.

Are there Jews >from Sztropko in the conscription lists? I assume that the
conscriptions were for battles against the Poles, possibly the Turks, and
the Hungarians (against the Catholic Hapsburgs) Which of these would be
correct?
I think, that conscritions were for collecting taxes >from Jews: that's why the Govt.
had to know how many horses, cows, sheeps, etc. Jews had.

(Sztropko is in northeastern Slovakia on the Polish border.) Were
Jews actually conscripted then? I thought that Jozef II first conscripted
the Jews.
There were partial (not national) Jewish conscriptions as early, as the 1564
conscription of Kismarton (Eisenstadt). It was published in MZSO. vol.II, no.32.

Do you have access to conscription records of later years--1848? 1867?
1914?

No, besides the 1848 conscription of Rohoncz/Rechnitz, and Szentes/Mindszent.

I would be most grateful if you could direct me, or do a look-up for me, as
well!

When you say "old names", you mean those before Jozef II's edict in 1787,
obviously. Do you mean that prior to that, Jews called themselves "son of"
in the local language, i.e. Moskovits, son of Mosko (Moshe)? I see in my
research that even after 1788, in the 1812 Census, some Jews of Sztropko
used this Slavic form, and not necessarily a German surname. Others did
use German names.
They are listed by old names. E.g. in Slavic speaking areas (East Hungary), name
and fathers's name plus -ovics: Abraham Herskovics, Volff Zelmanovics, Markus
Samsonovics.
In German speaking areas (W.Hungary): name and father's name: Lebl Mojses,
Wolfgangus Izrael, Salamon Michll. Sometimes occupation is given: Ebedt
Fleischhaker, Cain Schreiber, Tretsll Sneider, place of origin: Isaac Turkischer,
Hirsl Hollesan, Jommel Slezinger. Some have Hungarian surnames: Jacob
Kossuth (Vag Ujhel-Vagujhely), Abraham Voros, Slovak surnames: Wolff Vlcsek,
Abraham Viszoky, Hersl Midlac.

Would this mean that in that isolated part of the
country, German names were not strictly enforced?
German names were not required before the name order of 1787.

Fenyes Elek, Magyarorszah geographiai szotara. Vol. I-IV. Budapest 1851.
Reprint Budapest 1984.

Vol. IV. p. 163.: Sztropko, Slovak county town in Zemplen county. 1542 Roman
Catholics, 114 Greek Catholics, 10 Lutherans, 550Jews. There is a Catholic
church and a synagogue. It has large market. It has good meadows by Ondava
(river). It has forest and 1284 hold agricultural land. There is a castle, that has
been a target of Polish attacks.

Number of Jews in Sztropko:

Absolute number: As percentage of total population:

1840 1880 1910 1840 1880 1910

555 866 1141 22.7 43.3 44.1

The Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen Megyei Leveltar Satorlajaujhelyi Fiokleveltara
3980 Satorlajaujhely
Kossuth ter 5.
tel 36-41-21353 (looks like an old number.) has:

matrikula (birth, marriage, death) >from Sztropko and vicinity 1833-1874.

Best wishes,

Gyuri
--
Ujlaki Gyorgy
Budapest, Hungary
ujlaki.gyorgy@drotposta.hu
ujlaki_gyorgy@hotmail.com