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When Momma Was the Landlord #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

JewishGen is amazing.

Less than two days after posting a request for ideas on how to find
the author of this book (rumor has it that she's a relative), Bennet
Berson in Wisconsin reported that he both has the book and knows the
author. >from here it should be easy.

(Why haven't I done this before??)

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen When Momma Was the Landlord #general

IsraelP <p2o5rock@...>
 

JewishGen is amazing.

Less than two days after posting a request for ideas on how to find
the author of this book (rumor has it that she's a relative), Bennet
Berson in Wisconsin reported that he both has the book and knows the
author. >from here it should be easy.

(Why haven't I done this before??)

Israel Pickholtz


Re: ukaraine and birth records #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Sanford Skansky wrote in message <3629727F.5314BF6C@wi.net>...
First of all has any body heard of Shetl by the name of Dokczyce or
something similar. The peson that told me about this shetl said it was
near Minsk. She said it might be Polish. Not being up on my geography
I assume Minks is close to the polish border.
Minsk is the capitol of modern Belarus. By most standards, I do not think
it would be classified as "near" the modern Polish border. the Minsk region
was part of the Russian Empire for 100 years before the Polish Partition.
Prior to about 1690, it was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but
I don't think most people would call that "Polish" these days.


My other question is about birth records. My grandfather was born in
1889 in Nikolaeve in the Ukraine. Did they even keep birth records back
then and if so would they still be there and how would one obtain a
birth certificate if there is one.
records of that sort were created by civil authorities then, although formal
"Birth Certificates" may not have been issued. Also, religious communites
created brith, marriage and death records. Some of them have survivied, but
they are fragmented and not always easy to find, even when they are in State
Archives. Also, you need a basic understanding of the local language, and
for the Minsk area, an ability to read Cyrillic characters, if you are going
to deal with the records yourself.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY
PZAVON@Worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ukaraine and birth records #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Sanford Skansky wrote in message <3629727F.5314BF6C@wi.net>...
First of all has any body heard of Shetl by the name of Dokczyce or
something similar. The peson that told me about this shetl said it was
near Minsk. She said it might be Polish. Not being up on my geography
I assume Minks is close to the polish border.
Minsk is the capitol of modern Belarus. By most standards, I do not think
it would be classified as "near" the modern Polish border. the Minsk region
was part of the Russian Empire for 100 years before the Polish Partition.
Prior to about 1690, it was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but
I don't think most people would call that "Polish" these days.


My other question is about birth records. My grandfather was born in
1889 in Nikolaeve in the Ukraine. Did they even keep birth records back
then and if so would they still be there and how would one obtain a
birth certificate if there is one.
records of that sort were created by civil authorities then, although formal
"Birth Certificates" may not have been issued. Also, religious communites
created brith, marriage and death records. Some of them have survivied, but
they are fragmented and not always easy to find, even when they are in State
Archives. Also, you need a basic understanding of the local language, and
for the Minsk area, an ability to read Cyrillic characters, if you are going
to deal with the records yourself.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY
PZAVON@Worldnet.att.net


Re: Eastern European Maps #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

r feldman wrote:
Hi,
I am also new to this, and I have been reading the discussion group for
a few weeks now. Everyone talks about different regions, provinces etc.
belonging to different countries at different times. Since I do not know
the names and locations of these provinces I find it hard to go into
shtetlfind and have a list of x number of names in different provinces
and know what I want.
Is there any place I can find a more general overview of Eastern Europe
with countries, regions and provinces for different periods of time,
especially if they are in maps.
I am leaving the reply in general mail as i feel there are others who
would be interested.

Ron Feldman

Searching: Feldman, Graychaka; Ruskin, and Greenberg, Schedrin; Palayew,
Brestlitovsk; Slabotski, Poland; Grossman, Brestowicze Belarus.


May I suggest to start >from the foolowing website, where many old maps
are reproduced:

http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~feefhs/maps/indexmap.html


An exellent source for the modern maps is Microsoft's site, with all the
available whistles:

http://www.expediamaps.com/PlaceFinder.asp

and not bad at all PCL (Perry Cataneda Map location)

Good luck

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta
a.sharon@home.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Eastern European Maps #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

r feldman wrote:
Hi,
I am also new to this, and I have been reading the discussion group for
a few weeks now. Everyone talks about different regions, provinces etc.
belonging to different countries at different times. Since I do not know
the names and locations of these provinces I find it hard to go into
shtetlfind and have a list of x number of names in different provinces
and know what I want.
Is there any place I can find a more general overview of Eastern Europe
with countries, regions and provinces for different periods of time,
especially if they are in maps.
I am leaving the reply in general mail as i feel there are others who
would be interested.

Ron Feldman

Searching: Feldman, Graychaka; Ruskin, and Greenberg, Schedrin; Palayew,
Brestlitovsk; Slabotski, Poland; Grossman, Brestowicze Belarus.


May I suggest to start >from the foolowing website, where many old maps
are reproduced:

http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~feefhs/maps/indexmap.html


An exellent source for the modern maps is Microsoft's site, with all the
available whistles:

http://www.expediamaps.com/PlaceFinder.asp

and not bad at all PCL (Perry Cataneda Map location)

Good luck

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta
a.sharon@home.com


JGS of Orange County, CA, meeting #general

Kohanski, Dorothy D. <dkohanski@...>
 

The JGS of Orange County will host a Family History Workshop on Sunday,
November 8 >from 1:30 to 4 PM in the Art Gallery room of Clubhouse 1,
Leisure World, Laguna Hills, CA.
Knowledgable members will be available to give one-on-one assistance
in:
-How to Get Started in Europe, USA and elsewhere
- Where to Write in the USA for documents
- Local Resources within Orange County
- Our Jewish Genealogy Library
- Preserving photos and documents
- Computers and Gnealogy (Using JewishGen Newsgroup; The JewishGen
Family
Finder and Family Tree of the Jewish People, Using Genealogical
Software)
- Surnames, help with NARA and Daitch Mokotoff Soundex systems;
books
about surnames
- Using maps to the best advantage
- Translators for various languages - bring those documents you
can't read.
- Show and Tell table to display your family charts, books,
pictures, etc.

For information contact Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@juno.com>,
Michelle Sandler <MICHELLESANDLER@Worldnet.att.net>, Shmuel Fisher
<Shmuel@DeltaNet.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Orange County, CA, meeting #general

Kohanski, Dorothy D. <dkohanski@...>
 

The JGS of Orange County will host a Family History Workshop on Sunday,
November 8 >from 1:30 to 4 PM in the Art Gallery room of Clubhouse 1,
Leisure World, Laguna Hills, CA.
Knowledgable members will be available to give one-on-one assistance
in:
-How to Get Started in Europe, USA and elsewhere
- Where to Write in the USA for documents
- Local Resources within Orange County
- Our Jewish Genealogy Library
- Preserving photos and documents
- Computers and Gnealogy (Using JewishGen Newsgroup; The JewishGen
Family
Finder and Family Tree of the Jewish People, Using Genealogical
Software)
- Surnames, help with NARA and Daitch Mokotoff Soundex systems;
books
about surnames
- Using maps to the best advantage
- Translators for various languages - bring those documents you
can't read.
- Show and Tell table to display your family charts, books,
pictures, etc.

For information contact Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@juno.com>,
Michelle Sandler <MICHELLESANDLER@Worldnet.att.net>, Shmuel Fisher
<Shmuel@DeltaNet.com>


A success story! #hungary

Steven Leof <leof@...>
 

Just to let everyone know that I have re-established contact with a secon=
d
cousin of my mother's as a result of a note someone posted to either the
Hungary or Belarus mailing list (I cannot remember which). It mentioned =
a
searchable database of donors to the Wall of Honour at Ellis Island. Wel=
l
I searched and it found and I now have another family member interested i=
n
genealogy to help with the tree (and they are hard to come by in my
family).

Steven Leof
leof@compuserve.com

RESEARCING my ancestors:

Bacharach: Germany > Baltimore, MD
Finkle: Belarus > Ukraine
Fischer: Bankoez, Austria Hungary
Gutman: Kossu, Hungary (possibly Kosice, Slovakia) > New York, NY
Hecht (of the eponymous department store): Baltimore, MD
Hertz: Germany (possibly Freischbach) > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Katzenstein: Hesse Cassel, Germany > New York, NY (and possibly > South
America)
Leifshutz/Lipshutz/Leof: Mogelov, Belarus > Gomel, Ukraine and Azaritch,
Minsk > Philadelphia, PA
Levin: Azaritch, Minsk > Gomel, Ukraine
Markovitz: Dluhe Kulcova, Slovakia > Philadelphia, PA
Nathan: Germany > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Neufeld: Humenne, Slovakia > New York, NY
Nussbaum: Tarnov, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Schwarz/Schwartz: Neu Sanditz, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Sherizen: Kiev, Ukraine > Philadelphia and Ukraine > Toronto, Canada
Triesta


Hungary SIG #Hungary A success story! #hungary

Steven Leof <leof@...>
 

Just to let everyone know that I have re-established contact with a secon=
d
cousin of my mother's as a result of a note someone posted to either the
Hungary or Belarus mailing list (I cannot remember which). It mentioned =
a
searchable database of donors to the Wall of Honour at Ellis Island. Wel=
l
I searched and it found and I now have another family member interested i=
n
genealogy to help with the tree (and they are hard to come by in my
family).

Steven Leof
leof@compuserve.com

RESEARCING my ancestors:

Bacharach: Germany > Baltimore, MD
Finkle: Belarus > Ukraine
Fischer: Bankoez, Austria Hungary
Gutman: Kossu, Hungary (possibly Kosice, Slovakia) > New York, NY
Hecht (of the eponymous department store): Baltimore, MD
Hertz: Germany (possibly Freischbach) > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Katzenstein: Hesse Cassel, Germany > New York, NY (and possibly > South
America)
Leifshutz/Lipshutz/Leof: Mogelov, Belarus > Gomel, Ukraine and Azaritch,
Minsk > Philadelphia, PA
Levin: Azaritch, Minsk > Gomel, Ukraine
Markovitz: Dluhe Kulcova, Slovakia > Philadelphia, PA
Nathan: Germany > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Neufeld: Humenne, Slovakia > New York, NY
Nussbaum: Tarnov, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Schwarz/Schwartz: Neu Sanditz, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Sherizen: Kiev, Ukraine > Philadelphia and Ukraine > Toronto, Canada
Triesta


Searching surname BASSEIN #belarus

Mpcamitta@...
 

I am searching for family with the surname BASSEIN. They came to the U.S.
from Minsk in 1907. Has anyone run across this name?
Miriam Camitta


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching surname BASSEIN #belarus

Mpcamitta@...
 

I am searching for family with the surname BASSEIN. They came to the U.S.
from Minsk in 1907. Has anyone run across this name?
Miriam Camitta


A success story! #belarus

Steven Leof <leof@...>
 

Just to let everyone know that I have re-established contact with a second
cousin of my mother's as a result of a note someone posted to either the
Hungary or Belarus mailing list (I cannot remember which). It mentioned a
searchable database of donors to the Wall of Honour at Ellis Island. Well
I searched and it found and I now have another family member interested in
genealogy to help with the tree (and they are hard to come by in my
family).

Steven Leof
leof@compuserve.com

RESEARCING my ancestors:

Bacharach: Germany > Baltimore, MD
Finkle: Belarus > Ukraine
Fischer: Bankoez, Austria Hungary
Gutman: Kossu, Hungary (possibly Kosice, Slovakia) > New York, NY
Hecht (of the eponymous department store): Baltimore, MD
Hertz: Germany (possibly Freischbach) > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Katzenstein: Hesse Cassel, Germany > New York, NY (and possibly > South
America)
Leifshutz/Lipshutz/Leof: Mogelov, Belarus > Gomel, Ukraine and Azaritch,
Minsk > Philadelphia, PA
Levin: Azaritch, Minsk > Gomel, Ukraine
Markovitz: Dluhe Kulcova, Slovakia > Philadelphia, PA
Nathan: Germany > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Neufeld: Humenne, Slovakia > New York, NY
Nussbaum: Tarnov, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Schwarz/Schwartz: Neu Sanditz, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Sherizen: Kiev, Ukraine > Philadelphia and Ukraine > Toronto, Canada
Triesta


Belarus SIG #Belarus A success story! #belarus

Steven Leof <leof@...>
 

Just to let everyone know that I have re-established contact with a second
cousin of my mother's as a result of a note someone posted to either the
Hungary or Belarus mailing list (I cannot remember which). It mentioned a
searchable database of donors to the Wall of Honour at Ellis Island. Well
I searched and it found and I now have another family member interested in
genealogy to help with the tree (and they are hard to come by in my
family).

Steven Leof
leof@compuserve.com

RESEARCING my ancestors:

Bacharach: Germany > Baltimore, MD
Finkle: Belarus > Ukraine
Fischer: Bankoez, Austria Hungary
Gutman: Kossu, Hungary (possibly Kosice, Slovakia) > New York, NY
Hecht (of the eponymous department store): Baltimore, MD
Hertz: Germany (possibly Freischbach) > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Katzenstein: Hesse Cassel, Germany > New York, NY (and possibly > South
America)
Leifshutz/Lipshutz/Leof: Mogelov, Belarus > Gomel, Ukraine and Azaritch,
Minsk > Philadelphia, PA
Levin: Azaritch, Minsk > Gomel, Ukraine
Markovitz: Dluhe Kulcova, Slovakia > Philadelphia, PA
Nathan: Germany > Tennessee > Pine Bluff, AK
Neufeld: Humenne, Slovakia > New York, NY
Nussbaum: Tarnov, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Schwarz/Schwartz: Neu Sanditz, Galicia, Poland > Newark, NJ
Sherizen: Kiev, Ukraine > Philadelphia and Ukraine > Toronto, Canada
Triesta


Re: access to LDS films in Israel #belarus

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Al Cohen asks about access to LDS films in Israel

To the best of my knowledge, there is no facility there. That's
why those of us who have access try to help our Israeli
"cousins" as much as possible and often do exchange research.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark, MA


Belarus SIG #Belarus re: access to LDS films in Israel #belarus

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Al Cohen asks about access to LDS films in Israel

To the best of my knowledge, there is no facility there. That's
why those of us who have access try to help our Israeli
"cousins" as much as possible and often do exchange research.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark, MA


Re: Roth discovery #hungary

ALEX M P MILLER <alexm6@...>
 

Hello Roth people

I stayed away >from this networking knowing that Roth is one of the most
common names in Hungary.

But if you are interested the village of Tisza Bercel in Szabolcs county
had a majority of Roth's, including my branch

Hooray to Wayne for ingenuity and persistence

Best regards, Szervusz

Alex Miller Reading Pennsylvania

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Roth discovery #hungary

ALEX M P MILLER <alexm6@...>
 

Hello Roth people

I stayed away >from this networking knowing that Roth is one of the most
common names in Hungary.

But if you are interested the village of Tisza Bercel in Szabolcs county
had a majority of Roth's, including my branch

Hooray to Wayne for ingenuity and persistence

Best regards, Szervusz

Alex Miller Reading Pennsylvania

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Get completely free e-mail >from Juno at http://www.juno.com
or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]


Re: h-sig digest: October 18, 1998 #hungary

Marian Brown <mbrown@...>
 

I found them on the Hamburg ship index. When I found the ship manifest entering New York Harbor, I got excited. But again, it only said they were >from Hungary.
Did you use the LDS films for the Hamburg ship index for the above?

Then I had the thought. Perhaps the ship manifest on boarding in Hamburg was a little more detailed than the one entering New York Harbor. It was true. The ship manifests leaving Hamburg, at least those in the 1880's, had a column for last residence besides the country of origin.
But where did you find the ship manifests leaving Hamburg?

Perhaps others have had the same difficulty.

I have had many similar experiences. And, I have only found one great
uncle on the Hamburg index list. As you can see below I am searching
all roots >from Slovakia.

Thanks for answering the above questions and for the tip.

Wayne Roth, Brooklyn, New York

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Cincinnati, Ohio

Searching SLOVAKIA: GLUECK, Kohanovce/Presov > Cleveland, OH 1879;
HUEBSCHMAN, Circ/Presov > Cleveland, OH 1879; HEIMOWITZ, Huncovce >
Cleveland, OH 1873; HOLSTEIN, Kosice > New York, NY 1887; LISSAUER,
Kosice > Oklahoma/Texas 1883; NEWMAN, Vychodna > Cleveland, OH 1873;
PAUKER (PARKER,) Dravce/Huncovce; TURK > Oklahoma 1879; ZINNER, Spisska
Nova Ves > New York City & Oklahoma 1895


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: October 18, 1998 #hungary

Marian Brown <mbrown@...>
 

I found them on the Hamburg ship index. When I found the ship manifest entering New York Harbor, I got excited. But again, it only said they were >from Hungary.
Did you use the LDS films for the Hamburg ship index for the above?

Then I had the thought. Perhaps the ship manifest on boarding in Hamburg was a little more detailed than the one entering New York Harbor. It was true. The ship manifests leaving Hamburg, at least those in the 1880's, had a column for last residence besides the country of origin.
But where did you find the ship manifests leaving Hamburg?

Perhaps others have had the same difficulty.

I have had many similar experiences. And, I have only found one great
uncle on the Hamburg index list. As you can see below I am searching
all roots >from Slovakia.

Thanks for answering the above questions and for the tip.

Wayne Roth, Brooklyn, New York

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Cincinnati, Ohio

Searching SLOVAKIA: GLUECK, Kohanovce/Presov > Cleveland, OH 1879;
HUEBSCHMAN, Circ/Presov > Cleveland, OH 1879; HEIMOWITZ, Huncovce >
Cleveland, OH 1873; HOLSTEIN, Kosice > New York, NY 1887; LISSAUER,
Kosice > Oklahoma/Texas 1883; NEWMAN, Vychodna > Cleveland, OH 1873;
PAUKER (PARKER,) Dravce/Huncovce; TURK > Oklahoma 1879; ZINNER, Spisska
Nova Ves > New York City & Oklahoma 1895